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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
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July 26, 2023, 05:10:42 AM
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Its important thing with new players have adapted well with new league want to play actually understand what instruction from head coach, some players have understand well with English language and not difficult have to play with top european teams from La Liga, Serie A or Primer League. New Real Madrid signing has experienced with top European teams and actually they can speak English well and some of them as Spain national players and will easy for adapting with new scheme from Ancelotti.
Pre Season match is mini illustration from composition one team for preparing next season match, many players change each pre season match its show how every head coach want to try with all players they have and know when league start which one potential become main or reserve players.
We only see in a general capacity that there are some players who find it difficult to adapt due to the language barrier, so what happens will affect them in receiving instructions from the coach, although this can be helped by some people who understand languages other than English. The pre-season is a benchmark for how coaches can see their team's weaknesses and try to find solutions to their own team's shortcomings. Trying to play many players will bring up choices for coaches in facing competition, so they can determine who are the main players and reserve players.

But at a big club like Real Madrid, pre-season is not entirely an option to determine the main players and there are many great players who come there ready to play. Pre-season can also be seen as an adaptation step for new players who are included in the formation strategy implemented by the coach, so that they can play with any scheme in the actual competition.

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July 26, 2023, 05:16:29 AM
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I don't think Mbappe's camp did this on purpose. The offer was brought to them. The way I see it, if anybody orchestrated the whole thing it would be PSG.
Maybe PSG got tired of playing games with Madrid and they decided to involve their Arabian friends. In this deal PSG will be the biggest winner because they will receive a very high amount o money and offload Mbappe without paying him the agreed 66m.
Now if that doesn't work out, this will force Madrid's hand into signing Mbappe now. Either way, PSG gets rid of Mbappe while receiving a huge amount and not paying any 66m.
wait a minute guys. don't forget something about Real Madrid that they don't want to sign Mbappe at a high price because Madrid themselves prefer to get Mbappe for free. so that Madrid currently prefers to remain silent because they know that this is just like a trap so that Madrid will pay dearly.
but Real Madrid management was smarter in trying to let it go without increasing the bid because if the price was too high no team would want to buy Mbappe, it's just that Madrid had to compete with Bayern Munich, who are currently also hunting for this star player.

I'm willing to bet that Real Madrid will not be provoked to increase their offer and after that wait for next season to wait for Mbappe free status.

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July 26, 2023, 05:22:59 AM
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Important players are signed this summer, the right thing is to know the specified club that would suit a versatile player, like Grizeman. Al Hilal is interested in signing Antoine Grizeman, who plays on Athletico Madrid's outstanding frontline. The Saudi giants are not backing down, making double bids from different players, and I believe they simply want to reinforce their club in full readiness for next season's activities. It's a difficult moment for the club to keep him because he's such an important player and a significant project for Los Colchoneros manager Diego Simeon.

I don't know if Antoine Griezmann is an important player for Atletico Madrid because this player just brought in a few weeks ago with a transfer fee of 20 million, if Al Hilal is interested in him and is ready to pay 40 million I don't think it's a difficult choice Atletico Madrid will make a profit of 20 million in a few weeks easy money  Cheesy After all, Atletico Madrid cannot expect much from this player because he is 32 years old I mean whatever Diego Simeone plans for next season there is no guarantee he will succeed I would prefer if Atletico Madrid let him join the Saudi League and look for a new replacement if needed.

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July 26, 2023, 05:50:30 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.
Mbappe is not doing this because he wants psg to increase his salary, his salary is already high enough and he is receiving huge bonuses from psg, he cannot ask for more from them, Mbappe is doing this because he wants to go to real madrid next season, but for free. Mbappe is a very good player, but i don't like how he behaves, how can the club invest all the money they have invested in him and he wants to leave them for free, that is not something psg will accept, that is why the club no longer cares who signs him, they just want him to leave, while they receive the fee for signing him.

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July 26, 2023, 06:17:34 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.
Mbappe is not doing this because he wants psg to increase his salary, his salary is already high enough and he is receiving huge bonuses from psg, he cannot ask for more from them, Mbappe is doing this because he wants to go to real madrid next season, but for free. Mbappe is a very good player, but i don't like how he behaves, how can the club invest all the money they have invested in him and he wants to leave them for free, that is not something psg will accept, that is why the club no longer cares who signs him, they just want him to leave, while they receive the fee for signing him.

He gave back to Paris whatever they invested in him,PSG without him will not be the same anymore,he was the real engine of the team giving them the wins and Ligue 1 titles while many times it was his goals that saved Psg from not winning at home against much weaker teams.

Real should pay a fee definitely for him if they want him and not try to get it for free as some other team from some other league may overrun Real and sign him first,as far as I know Liverpool had some idea to get him and some other Premier League teams so the faster Real reacts the better for them.

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July 26, 2023, 06:19:17 AM
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It seems to me that Mbappe and his entourage have already crossed some boundaries in this game, and therefore I still weakly believe that this is a finely planned strategy to increase the salary of a football player. Rather, here we are dealing with a classic case when the situation has got out of control and is already developing not according to a pre-planned scenario. Moreover, the sheikhs from Saudi Arabia, with their space proposals, brought even more uncertainty into the situation and generally confused the cards of Mbappe's entourage.

He has a team of people who help him think, his intelligence has been to carefully choose the people who have to help him and the instructions he has given him. He thought very cleverly, for that matter he is.
I hold him very much in esteem.

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July 26, 2023, 07:33:50 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.
Mbappe is not doing this because he wants psg to increase his salary, his salary is already high enough and he is receiving huge bonuses from psg, he cannot ask for more from them, Mbappe is doing this because he wants to go to real madrid next season, but for free. Mbappe is a very good player, but i don't like how he behaves, how can the club invest all the money they have invested in him and he wants to leave them for free, that is not something psg will accept, that is why the club no longer cares who signs him, they just want him to leave, while they receive the fee for signing him.
Most likely so, and I also really don't like Mbappe's behavior off the field, I think this young man is too selfish and arrogant as if he is very great, if he can't change that then his future will be very unfortunate.
Real Madrid has also been quite passionate about pursuing Mbappe in the last 2 years, maybe because it also made Mbappe feel like he was very desirable so he did as he pleased.
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July 26, 2023, 07:41:18 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.
Even before the end of the last season, PSG did not give Mbappe as much importance as before the start of the new season. PSG has already agreed to the offer made to PSG and PSG wants to sell this high priced Mbappe to the Saudi League but so far there is no such news from Mbappe. PSG believe that Mbappe has secretly completed a deal with Real Madrid, which is why Mbappe is not so important at the moment. PSG is treating Mbappe the same way PSG treated Messi a few days ago. Where Mbappe was planned to form a new team at the end of last season, PSG toured Japan without Mbappe, so it means that PSG is no longer planning on Mbappe.

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Imo, Real Madrid silence indicates that they have reached an internal agreement with Mbappe side, Mbappe attitude of not wanting to extend his contract with PSG has a relationship with Real Madrid silence. Real Madrid prefers to bring in Mbappe for free rather than having to spend money to make up for Mbappe very expensive release clause.

With PSG getting into a big financial hole with the FFP, if they don't sell Mbappe, then I would say that the price of him should drop quite a lot. There are 6 days left until the 31st (when PSG must pay Mbappe a loyalty bonus of 40 million). And obviously this is the best offcut to sell Mbappe. So we continue to wait for news  Roll Eyes

So, Mbappe does not want to extend his contract but interested clubs like Real Madrid can still be patient until next summer transfer. Thus, Real Madrid and Mbappe seem to have started the game so that Real Madrid can bring Mbappe in for free in the summer transfer. Therefore, this situation and conditions make it possible for PSG to lose the game because after all, PSG also failed to extend Mbappe's contract. But yes, maybe this incident will also be a big lesson for PSG, that money cannot always take sides because in fact Mbappe also still chose to leave.

We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.

I am convinced that Mbappe will leave Psg. I think he doesn't want to continue there anymore. He seems insistent on making his own way and joining Real Madrid. He's performing top notch at psg, but failing to do well may have caused him to lose his enthusiasm. Now at this stage Spain looks better for him.

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July 26, 2023, 08:30:20 AM
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I think Barcelona still should make two transfers to specific areas. These areas are defensive midfield and centre-forward. Because in the defensive midfield there is still only Oriol Romeu. Of course players like de Jong and Kessie can also play there. However their main positions are central midfield so it is better to use them there.

For the other position there is only Lewandowski there. Barcelona don't need to spend so much money for bringing a striker. They can even loan someone who can be useful in Lewandowski's absence. Signing a backup striker should be even the priority for them.

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July 26, 2023, 09:01:16 AM
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After some time ago being announced as a new Real Madrid player and having started training for pre-season matches, it seems that Arda Guler has not had much luck. He experienced discomfort in one of his legs after training and it is certain that he will not defend Real Madrid later against Manchester United, moreover the club also does not want to take risks if it forces Arda Guler's current situation. If we look at Real Madrid against Milan a few days ago, we also didn't see Arda Guler included in the starting line-up or coming off the bench, so it happened exactly the day before Real Madrid's pre-season game started.

Arda Guler didn't play against Real Madrid and AC Milan, but I think he'll play against Real Madrid and Manchester United in the preseason game because I don't think the injury was that serious. He's already started training since Real Madrid and AC Milan's match so that he can play against Manchester United. I think Real Madrid can function without Arda Guler on the pitch, but I also think he should be playing as one of Real Madrid's younger players because I think his performance and some of his skills will help Real Madrid score more goals. I haven't seen his performance, but because of the way I watch his highlights and the way people refer to him as the "young Messi," I think his performance will be a success for Real Madrid.

Real Madrid is a very popular and well-known team in the world, and every player will want to play for them. Their goal is to sign mbappe and have him join the team so that they can become the only undefeated club in the world. However, the way things are currently going, I believe that Real Madrid is about to lose mbappe to one of the many teams that are interested in signing him. In order to obtain the mbappe at all costs, clubs from Barcelona, Chelsea, Manchester United, and Saudi Arabia are coming with significant financial resources. If Manchester United and Barcelona are unsuccessful, I believe Saudi Arabia will succeed because they have the resources.

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July 26, 2023, 09:10:22 AM
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I think Barcelona still should make two transfers to specific areas. These areas are defensive midfield and centre-forward. Because in the defensive midfield there is still only Oriol Romeu. Of course players like de Jong and Kessie can also play there. However their main positions are central midfield so it is better to use them there.

For the other position there is only Lewandowski there. Barcelona don't need to spend so much money for bringing a striker. They can even loan someone who can be useful in Lewandowski's absence. Signing a backup striker should be even the priority for them.

They still have de Jong and Kessie and both played defensive midfield so far and de Jong even played both sides, but do they really have the classic defensive midfield? With de Jong and Gundogan they should be ok although I can also see the need for at least a high quality backup.

I think the exchange between Manchester City and Barcelona where there were rumors about exchanging de Jong for Bernardo Siva won't happen because does Barcelona really need Silva? He is good of course, but currently Barcelona has several offensive players with decent quality. But what I miss is this one star player that is above all else.

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July 26, 2023, 09:30:19 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.

PSG wants Mbappe to extend his contract, but he refuses to sign and plans to stay until next year. PSG has tried to use all the ways to convience him at this moment, but it's likely mbappe will not even move to the al hilal. So far no deal already reached between mbappe's side with al hilal.
There's no latest development from mbappe at this moment. I expect this deal gonna be a long way deal for PSG. Mbappe's main motive gonna be revealed if he will refuses an offer from al hilal.
Mbappe wants money and al hilal can give him. No reason to reject al hilal's offer at this moment. Al hilal has been providing the best way for PSG and mbappe to end their problems. I would call that mbappe is the main causes of all problems if he will not agree move to the al hilal.
He shall stop being so selfish. Mbappe must realize the reality if he was just a player and nothing more. He was not the owner of club.

Mbappe shall know his position at this moment.

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July 26, 2023, 09:37:03 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.
It seems to me that Mbappe and his entourage have already crossed some boundaries in this game, and therefore I still weakly believe that this is a finely planned strategy to increase the salary of a football player. Rather, here we are dealing with a classic case when the situation has got out of control and is already developing not according to a pre-planned scenario. Moreover, the sheikhs from Saudi Arabia, with their space proposals, brought even more uncertainty into the situation and generally confused the cards of Mbappe's entourage.

I think football is facing a big problem now. Incredible contract prices. If Saudi Arabia continues with these offers, there will be a great decrease in the number of football players to play in Europe. In the Saudi Arabian league, it is unclear how long these offers of the teams will last. Players in the Saudi Arabian league will leave after a few years, but the financial losses will not be easily compensated. This is also a bad situation for Saudi Arabia.

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July 26, 2023, 09:39:13 AM
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PSG wants Mbappe to extend his contract, but he refuses to sign and plans to stay until next year. PSG has tried to use all the ways to convience him at this moment, but it's likely mbappe will not even move to the al hilal. So far no deal already reached between mbappe's side with al hilal.
Mbappe is waiting for 31 July to get loyalty payment from PSG and after that day, after receiving that loyalty payment, he will have clearer responses about his future in this summer. I really believe Mbappe will not stay in PSG and accept that he will be on bench before Euro 2024.

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Mbappe wants money and al hilal can give him. No reason to reject al hilal's offer at this moment. Al hilal has been providing the best way for PSG and mbappe to end their problems. I would call that mbappe is the main causes of all problems if he will not agree move to the al hilal.
Mbappe wanted money from PSG first and he does not think for PSG after many years playing for them and receiving money from them. Like he can accept to move to Ah Hilal, receive so good salary from that Saudi Arabia club which can be considered as a covering money for his loyalty payment from PSG. But it seems Mbappe wants to have both sources of money, from both clubs.

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He shall stop being so selfish. Mbappe must realize the reality if he was just a player and nothing more. He was not the owner of club.

Mbappe shall know his position at this moment.
He is at a good position now as I see. Only PSG is at weak position in this summer and they have to find ways to convince Mbappe to go in this summer.

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July 26, 2023, 09:41:10 AM
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Important players are signed this summer, the right thing is to know the specified club that would suit a versatile player, like Grizeman. Al Hilal is interested in signing Antoine Grizeman, who plays on Athletico Madrid's outstanding frontline. The Saudi giants are not backing down, making double bids from different players, and I believe they simply want to reinforce their club in full readiness for next season's activities. It's a difficult moment for the club to keep him because he's such an important player and a significant project for Los Colchoneros manager Diego Simeon.
Sometimes I think what these Arab clubs are doing by continuing to target lots of good players and by asking fantastic prices is just a way for them to continue promoting their league so that it can be more famous, the more it is reported, the more people will be curious and try to find out, until finally watching the matches in the league, but when they see that the competition is not that interesting then they will slowly start to be abandoned.
Hakim Ziyech was reported to be going to the Arab league but failed the medical test but he stated that failed in the medical test so he didn't go to the Arab league was a lie and some other news saying that some offers had decreased from what was promised were also carried out by clubs whether it's true news or not but I don't think they will continue to spend money even though they have unlimited assets without getting the appropriate income they will bankrupt.
Some players apparently don't care about the high offers from the Arab club like Luca Modric and I also think that Griezman won't go there, his role at Atletico Madrid is very big letting him go means having to find a suitable replacement, and if he leaves this season Atletico Madrid have very little time to start looking for a replacement so I think Griezman will stay in Spain, maybe two or three more seasons and then he will decide his future, and many players still prefer a career in a competitive league over money unless they are only 1-2 years away from retirement.

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I think Barcelona still should make two transfers to specific areas. These areas are defensive midfield and centre-forward. Because in the defensive midfield there is still only Oriol Romeu. Of course players like de Jong and Kessie can also play there. However their main positions are central midfield so it is better to use them there.
I would agree about both but let's see how capable barcelona in buying the new players. The club has not raised money from selling the players. All of players that being lined up in the list of players to be sold by the club already refused to be sold by barcelona.
Barcelona is not financially good at this moment in recruiting more defensive midfielder and centra forward. CF can be a risky position caused by lewandowksi can get injury anytime. There shall be a backup for him.


For the other position there is only Lewandowski there. Barcelona don't need to spend so much money for bringing a striker. They can even loan someone who can be useful in Lewandowski's absence. Signing a backup striker should be even the priority for them.
Barcelona can take felix as loan from real madrid but the main problem is now whether barcelona will be interesting to do that or not. Barcelona has been even linked to the mbappe which is unreal for me.
I do agree with you in this point if barcelona needs to prepare secondary striker to be lewandowski's backup.

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July 26, 2023, 09:54:40 AM
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Some players apparently don't care about the high offers from the Arab club like Luca Modric and I also think that Griezman won't go there, his role at Atletico Madrid is very big letting him go means having to find a suitable replacement, and if he leaves this season Atletico Madrid have very little time to start looking for a replacement so I think Griezman will stay in Spain, maybe two or three more seasons and then he will decide his future, and many players still prefer a career in a competitive league over money unless they are only 1-2 years away from retirement.

Antoine Griezmann isn't going anywhere. It hasn't been much time since he signed a permanent deal with Atletico Madrid. It happened at the beginning of this month for 20 million euros transfer fee. It is a three-year deal as well. It would be awkward if he suddenly decides to leave for a Saudi Arabian team now.  Grin

He is making 12.5 million euros per year as of his new contract. I think he deserves to be one of the top earners in the team now. Because his performance in the previous season was really amazing. He belongs with Atletico Madrid truthfully. This has been the place he performs the most.

However maybe after one or two seasons he might think of joining a Saudi Arabian team maybe to make much more money. But I think he would do it when he thinks of retiring after that.

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July 26, 2023, 10:02:26 AM
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I think Barcelona still should make two transfers to specific areas. These areas are defensive midfield and centre-forward. Because in the defensive midfield there is still only Oriol Romeu. Of course players like de Jong and Kessie can also play there. However their main positions are central midfield so it is better to use them there.
I would agree about both but let's see how capable barcelona in buying the new players. The club has not raised money from selling the players. All of players that being lined up in the list of players to be sold by the club already refused to be sold by barcelona.
Barcelona is not financially good at this moment in recruiting more defensive midfielder and centra forward. CF can be a risky position caused by lewandowksi can get injury anytime. There shall be a backup for him.


For the other position there is only Lewandowski there. Barcelona don't need to spend so much money for bringing a striker. They can even loan someone who can be useful in Lewandowski's absence. Signing a backup striker should be even the priority for them.
Barcelona can take felix as loan from real madrid but the main problem is now whether barcelona will be interesting to do that or not. Barcelona has been even linked to the mbappe which is unreal for me.
I do agree with you in this point if barcelona needs to prepare secondary striker to be lewandowski's backup.
I am personally satisfied with Barcelona's performance last season. They completely dominated La Liga and managed to win La Liga. Hopefully the Barcelona team will improve themselves tremendously this season and try to do well in the Champions League as well.

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July 26, 2023, 10:11:09 AM
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We are not sure yet, maybe Mbappe is just doing that to make his team spend more for him and increase his salary. Right now are see much news about PSG wanting to increase the salary of Mbappe and keep him in the team for the next season. That's why they did it the last time and it's not surprising to see the same story.
It seems to me that Mbappe and his entourage have already crossed some boundaries in this game, and therefore I still weakly believe that this is a finely planned strategy to increase the salary of a football player. Rather, here we are dealing with a classic case when the situation has got out of control and is already developing not according to a pre-planned scenario. Moreover, the sheikhs from Saudi Arabia, with their space proposals, brought even more uncertainty into the situation and generally confused the cards of Mbappe's entourage.
We really don't know what really happened with Mbappe. Even the news about Mbappe is currently getting excited. What I don't understand is that even Mbappe is currently being linked with Barcelona. This news came after Mbappe went on vacation to Barcelona with several other PSG players. Speculation arose due to the news.

Then now comes a fantastic offer from one of the Arab clubs, namely Al-Hilal. And I think this is the highest bid at the moment. Which of course will benefit Mbappe and PSG if they accept the offer. But Mbappe doesn't seem interested in Arab clubs. He is still young and can still shine more in European football. So I'm pretty sure Mbappe will not waste his career in European football just to get big money from Arab clubs.

I don't know if it's a strategy from PSG or if it's a genuine competition for Mbappe. But right now Real Madrid doesn't seem to be budging with Mbappe's situation being offered a fantastic salary by an Arab club. It's as if Real Madrid already have the confidence that they will get Mbappe in the end. But I really dont like to see Real Madrid waiting for next season to get Mbappe for free in the transfer market. Because I hope Real Madrid can be more competitive in the upcoming Champions League and if Real Madrid can sign Mbappe this season then I'm sure Real Madrid will have their glory again in Laliga and also in the Champions League.

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