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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
Barcelona - 29 (24%)
Real Madrid - 82 (67.8%)
Atletico Madrid - 1 (0.8%)
Sevilla - 0 (0%)
Valencia - 1 (0.8%)
Villareal - 0 (0%)
Real Sociedad - 0 (0%)
Other - 8 (6.6%)
Total Voters: 121

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August 09, 2023, 04:31:41 AM
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The proportions and positions of Dembele and Lewandowski are different so I don't think this can be compared because even though their goals on the field are the same, their tasks are different.
Dembele is a typical running player whose job is to mess up the opponent's defense in contrast to Lewandowski who is a targetman.

Now when Barcelona lose Dembele, it will actually be beneficial in my opinion considering that with a 100 million clause, this will be better for Barcelona's finances which are still disturbed. On the other hand, this could also give Xavi a good option to look for other attacking alternatives to make his squad more complex.
Of course and both of them play in different positions even though they are both on the front lines, problem is I am trying to straighten out the previous discussion that Dembele's move could affect the overall quality of Barcelona's play. These two players do have different tasks and it is true that as you said, that Lewandowski is the final target for finishing goals, while Dembele has the responsibility to build attacks through the wings and although he also scores goals often.

Dembele's salary burden is too large amid Barcelona's unstable financial condition, so his departure to PSG can be a solution to minimize finances. In that position there is also Raphinha who can replace and his performance can also be said to have improved in the previous season, so it will not affect the sharpness of the attacks built by Barcelona players.
In terms of performance, although there will be a difference, I don't think it will have a significant impact because we know that in that position there is still Raphinha, who on several occasions has always been given more time than Xavi.
Although in the end this will make a difference, there are other things that are more worth it than that.
The 100 million release clause and the reduction in salary burden that will be quite a lot when Dembele leaves will give a good return to Barcelona so I think it is something that is worth it to do.
Barcelona still have a cash problem with the wage bill so when there is an opportunity to improve it would be a shame to let it go.

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August 09, 2023, 04:35:07 AM
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The weird thing about Barcelona is they are don't in a good situation right now and currently they have only 11 players ready for the game. While they got some players in this transfer window but the contract of Gündoğan, Martínez, and Romeu is not registered in La Liga yet and some players who extended their contract got the same situation in Barcelona. Also, Dembele and Kessié are both near to leaving the team
Currently, just Ter Stegen, Gavi, Pedri, Christensen, Lewandowski, Fati, Raphinha, Torres, Koundé, García, and De Jong got registered contracts with Barcelona.  



The same thing happened again, I remembered that Lewandowski could only be registered in La Liga by Barcelona the day after the league officially started. This season a similar incident occurred again, reportedly only Ilkay Gundogan is likely to experience problems if he is not registered before the first Barca match starts. Because the clause in his contract states that Gundogan can leave Barcelona on a free transfer if he is not registered before Barcelona first match.

La Liga is increasingly tightening its regulations, each club must prepare comprehensive financial reports before registering their players, so that they are free from witnesses to Financial Fair Play.

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August 09, 2023, 04:54:24 AM
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Barcelona still have a cash problem with the wage bill so when there is an opportunity to improve it would be a shame to let it go.
It is sad to see that after many years Barcelona is not out of their financial crisis. Their poor financial management is making them a sinking ship which used to be overshadowed by their success in the football.  At some point they had a relief which made lovers of the club happy but it was only short term. They need a permanent solution to this issue and the first of which is that, any player they can't currently sign a new contract for should be sold for as much as they can get. Furthermore, they may have to solely avoid paying fees for players to bring the debt down.

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August 09, 2023, 05:23:30 AM
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Xavi is the the only top person in the club that really rated Dembele highly. If it was left to the others in the management they would have let Dembele go when his contract expired a year ago and that would have been the best decision.
Xavi made sure that the club gave Dembele a new contract. He kept saying it openly that Dembele was not only part of his plans but a very integral part of his plans. The explosive nature of Dembele was a very big plus to Xavi.

Dembele had no reason to leave Barça other than searching for a better contract. He has a coach that trusted him so much despite his injuries, not many injury prone players have that privilege.
Even if Dembele leaving Barcelona for whatever reason, Xavi doesn't need to worry anymore about the vacant position left by Dembele. Lamine Yamal good performance when Barcelona against Tottenham Hotspur gave an advantage for Barcelona, which was threatened with leaving Dembele, Xavi had to develop Lamine Yamal potential by giving him confidence to play in several important matches.
While this position can be entrusted to Raphinha, the brilliant actions shown by Lamine Yamal must get the attention of Barcelona to develop the talent from the La Masia academy, he can be placed as a reserve player for Raphinha before Vitor Roque official arrival to Barcelona.

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August 09, 2023, 05:31:55 AM
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The same thing happened again, I remembered that Lewandowski could only be registered in La Liga by Barcelona the day after the league officially started. This season a similar incident occurred again, reportedly only Ilkay Gundogan is likely to experience problems if he is not registered before the first Barca match starts. Because the clause in his contract states that Gundogan can leave Barcelona on a free transfer if he is not registered before Barcelona first match.

La Liga is increasingly tightening its regulations, each club must prepare comprehensive financial reports before registering their players, so that they are free from witnesses to Financial Fair Play.
Possibility or not with İlkay Gündoğan can't make debut on the first match against Getafe? after his name not registered yet for playing in La Liga season 202324. Complicated problem faced by Barcelona every season with registered new players and not only with İlkay Gündoğan
but also has several names are extended contract with Barcelona not register yet until today. Its seems not happening with unique clause for İlkay Gündoğan leaves Barcelona as free agent if not register in this season, Barcelona have planning about which one player removing and filled place for İlkay Gündoğan in Barcelona name list register for La Liga match. 

Disappointed if İlkay Gündoğan have absent one or two match later in La Liga due problem can't register, Barcelona have find solution as soon possible if won't loss him as free agent and become world meme how failure financial with Barcelona.

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August 09, 2023, 06:36:26 AM
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Barcelona still have a cash problem with the wage bill so when there is an opportunity to improve it would be a shame to let it go.
It is sad to see that after many years Barcelona is not out of their financial crisis. Their poor financial management is making them a sinking ship which used to be overshadowed by their success in the football.  At some point they had a relief which made lovers of the club happy but it was only short term. They need a permanent solution to this issue and the first of which is that, any player they can't currently sign a new contract for should be sold for as much as they can get. Furthermore, they may have to solely avoid paying fees for players to bring the debt down.
Something like that has happened and indeed it is the fault of all parties, especially the officials by letting incompetent rulers manage their finances which makes Barcelona currently misguided.
But on the other hand, it's over and now they have to reorganise and if you look at the latest conditions at this time Barcelona is much better than the previous few seasons. not only in terms of performance but finances are also gradually being improved and that's good. It's just that for now they still need quite a lot of improvement and Xavi is the current hope for Barcelona with the coaching he has.

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August 09, 2023, 07:21:30 AM
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It looks like the registration deadline will close on August 13th so Barcelona must hurry up to register new player. I think barcelona is constrained by financial problems, which makes it difficult for them to register their players. Btw there is only a little time left and if this fails to be done I think Barcelona could lose their new players and it will be fatal for them to compete this season.

Previously something like this also happened with Barcelona last season but Barcelona was able to complete registration before Laliga started. I believe that this problem will also be resolved as soon as possible and we will see new names that will officially defend Barcelona this season.
With this problem in finance, how Barcelona are able to sign with Messi, register him in their squad for La Liga and how will they be able to do this without cutting some players in their squad?

Many people complained that Messi did not show his love and loyalty for Barcelona when that club needs him but now, we have a clearer view about the club condition. They are not able to do that even with smaller star players than Messi so doing it with Messi is impossible. It is unfair if they want to have Messi as a free agent (no transfer fee) and use him without good salary for him.

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August 09, 2023, 07:24:23 AM
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Barcelona still have a cash problem with the wage bill so when there is an opportunity to improve it would be a shame to let it go.
It is sad to see that after many years Barcelona is not out of their financial crisis. Their poor financial management is making them a sinking ship which used to be overshadowed by their success in the football.  At some point they had a relief which made lovers of the club happy but it was only short term. They need a permanent solution to this issue and the first of which is that, any player they can't currently sign a new contract for should be sold for as much as they can get. Furthermore, they may have to solely avoid paying fees for players to bring the debt down.
Something like that has happened and indeed it is the fault of all parties, especially the officials by letting incompetent rulers manage their finances which makes Barcelona currently misguided.
But on the other hand, it's over and now they have to reorganise and if you look at the latest conditions at this time Barcelona is much better than the previous few seasons. not only in terms of performance but finances are also gradually being improved and that's good. It's just that for now they still need quite a lot of improvement and Xavi is the current hope for Barcelona with the coaching he has.
Either they forgot or how to let things like this continue for years, because we cannot deny that finance is one of the factors that are inseparable from football. Money is a factor that will make the team even better, especially if you can utilize it. It can be said that this is the fault of management, because those who have access to it are all management, and when it comes to this issue coaches and players cannot be linked.
Last season we know they sold almost half of their revenue sources, it was because of the crisis they faced. It seemed like a solution, but it wasn't a solution at all.

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Barcelona won the first trophy in this season and they won the game against Tottenham with a 4-2 result while Lewandowski scored the first goal for this team and like always he had a good performance in Barcelona which means Barcelona should be worried about their forwards in this season because they still have a player like Lewandowski. However, this Barcelona still needs to hire players for the next season and I think even if they have Xavi as a good coach but he doesn't have the tool he needs to win the harder games they are going to have in the next season.

I think, Barcelona president will definitely look at the current situation of the team to give approval to his manager to bring more potential players that will help the team to maintain a good record in this season, because they need some potential players to assist them to achieve their goal in this season. Barcelona really displayed well in this pre-season match to defeated Tottenham Hotspur 4-2 to alert other teams that they are coming to win many titles in this season, and to defeat those strong teams that stressed them last season.  Based on what they have showcased in this pre-season match, show that Barcelona coach is doing a great job, and he will definitely lead the team to achieve victory in this tournament to receive another honor from the team.

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About Barcelona, There is still news if Barcelona continue to look for new players. It looks like they want to borrow Cancelo, but Man City want to sell permanently. But it seems that Barcelona want to borrow him, so Barcelona tried to approach Frimpong from Bayern Leverkusen. But Fripong is also not cheap, Leverkusen want €30 million. Of course this is news that makes me surprised, because many of Barcelona's financial rumors and players that have not been registered until now are still quite a lot and and Barcelona have limited salary cap problems.

Source: https://www.football-espana.net/2023/08/08/barcelona-contact-bundesliga-star-as-alternative-to-joao-cancelo

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August 09, 2023, 07:48:15 AM
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Franck Kessie was so disappointed and hurt after becoming one of the victims of Barcelona's bad finances. He has always dreamed of playing with Barcelona since last season and therefore it is hoped that his arrival will last longer to defend the Blaugrana. But things were different after Xavi rarely played and he was sorely disappointed that after signing on a free agent from AC Milan last season then within a year he had been sold by Barcelona to the Saudi league club. It's very clear how Barcelona doesn't appreciate their players just because of the money they always wanted and the sense of loyalty that Franck Kessie wanted to show has now turned into a bitter taste that will be hard to get rid of.

Source: https://onefootball.com/id/berita/barcelona-midfielder-disappointed-with-the-club-ahead-of-15-million-departure-37994503

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August 09, 2023, 08:02:21 AM
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About Barcelona, There is still news if Barcelona continue to look for new players. It looks like they want to borrow Cancelo, but Man City want to sell permanently. But it seems that Barcelona want to borrow him, so Barcelona tried to approach Frimpong from Bayern Leverkusen. But Fripong is also not cheap, Leverkusen want €30 million. Of course this is news that makes me surprised, because many of Barcelona's financial rumors and players that have not been registered until now are still quite a lot and and Barcelona have limited salary cap problems.

Source: https://www.football-espana.net/2023/08/08/barcelona-contact-bundesliga-star-as-alternative-to-joao-cancelo

More of Cancelo has been seen but no same for Jeremy Frimpong who had another wonderful season beith Bayern Leverkusen. Not just Barcelona, Erik Ten Hag also placed him amongst the players he must get but then Wan Bisakka after the World Cup Competition leveled up his game.
Though I will go for Cancelo over Jeremy Frimpong. Frimpong is a very fast player but Cancelo has worked with Pep Guardiola has a better understanding to the game over Frimpong. The fee might be the little issue since they have financial matters at hand.

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About Barcelona, There is still news if Barcelona continue to look for new players. It looks like they want to borrow Cancelo, but Man City want to sell permanently. But it seems that Barcelona want to borrow him, so Barcelona tried to approach Frimpong from Bayern Leverkusen. But Fripong is also not cheap, Leverkusen want €30 million. Of course this is news that makes me surprised, because many of Barcelona's financial rumors and players that have not been registered until now are still quite a lot and and Barcelona have limited salary cap problems.

Source: https://www.football-espana.net/2023/08/08/barcelona-contact-bundesliga-star-as-alternative-to-joao-cancelo

Too bad Barcelona is still dealing with economic problems. Since they see the team as a symbol of the Basque region, they do not allow it to be sold. While most of the sponsorship agreements have been made, new agreements are not made. So I expect them to be more passive in the transfer for a few years. Especially in this Arab transfer interest, Barcelona may not be the sought-after team with a low salary.

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August 09, 2023, 08:14:20 AM
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About Barcelona, There is still news if Barcelona continue to look for new players. It looks like they want to borrow Cancelo, but Man City want to sell permanently. But it seems that Barcelona want to borrow him, so Barcelona tried to approach Frimpong from Bayern Leverkusen. But Fripong is also not cheap, Leverkusen want €30 million.

João Cancelo is an excellent defender. He does not face many injuries. Last season he played with two big teams like Manchester City and Bayern Munich. He is experienced enough. Barcelona will certainly benefit from Cancelo's inclusion in the team. But maybe Manchester City don't want to send João Cancelo on loan. I don't know if Barcelona have the money to buy Cancelo. Jeremie Frimpong is a young player. This is why the Leverkusen management is demanding a very high price for Jeremie Frimpong. I think the Barcelona management will be more interested in Cancelo than Frimpong.


Of course this is news that makes me surprised, because many of Barcelona's financial rumors and players that have not been registered until now are still quite a lot and and Barcelona have limited salary cap problems.

Over the last few seasons we have seen Barcelona in dire financial straits. Even then we saw that Joan Laporta provided the money. And Barcelona bought several players at very high prices. It is expected that Joan Laporta will provide the money this time too if Xavi wants to add his favorite players to the squad.

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August 09, 2023, 08:19:20 AM
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I think, Barcelona president will definitely look at the current situation of the team to give approval to his manager to bring more potential players that will help the team to maintain a good record in this season, because they need some potential players to assist them to achieve their goal in this season. Barcelona really displayed well in this pre-season match to defeated Tottenham Hotspur 4-2 to alert other teams that they are coming to win many titles in this season, and to defeat those strong teams that stressed them last season.  Based on what they have showcased in this pre-season match, show that Barcelona coach is doing a great job, and he will definitely lead the team to achieve victory in this tournament to receive another honor from the team.


I doubt it very much, Barcelona, due to financial problems, could not attract Messi to the team and for the same reason Dembele left for PSG. I'm sure that Xavi would like to bring new players to the team, but this is not possible at the moment. Maybe the fact that they beat Tottenham doesn't mean how strong Barcelona is, but how weak Tottenham are? And besides, this is just a friendly match and it's too early to draw conclusions, let's wait for the start of the championships, then we will evaluate the teams.

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August 09, 2023, 09:29:28 AM
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Barcelona can't spend too much money no matter how good their finances are now. Because they are still dealing with FFP. This is even why they are planning to add Cancelo to the squad on loan. They are trying to finish some transfers at low cost at least. If Barcelona were more careful with their expenses in the past the situation could have been more different.

They have spent a lot of money on players such as Dembele, Coutinho and so on and they couldn't send them for a profitable amount later on. They just need to be more careful about this as of now if they don't want to have this result again.

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August 09, 2023, 09:51:43 AM
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I think, Barcelona president will definitely look at the current situation of the team to give approval to his manager to bring more potential players that will help the team to maintain a good record in this season, because they need some potential players to assist them to achieve their goal in this season. Barcelona really displayed well in this pre-season match to defeated Tottenham Hotspur 4-2 to alert other teams that they are coming to win many titles in this season, and to defeat those strong teams that stressed them last season.  Based on what they have showcased in this pre-season match, show that Barcelona coach is doing a great job, and he will definitely lead the team to achieve victory in this tournament to receive another honor from the team.


I doubt it very much, Barcelona, due to financial problems, could not attract Messi to the team and for the same reason Dembele left for PSG. I'm sure that Xavi would like to bring new players to the team, but this is not possible at the moment. Maybe the fact that they beat Tottenham doesn't mean how strong Barcelona is, but how weak Tottenham are? And besides, this is just a friendly match and it's too early to draw conclusions, let's wait for the start of the championships, then we will evaluate the teams.
regarding Messi and Dembele leaving Barcelona, in reality Barcelona were not able to provide the salary they wanted so they were forced to leave Barcelona and go to a team that was able to provide the desired salary and on the one hand Dembele went to PSG actually because Barcelona seemed to no longer need it because he has an injury that often occurs when competing. so currently Xavi is looking for a replacement to replace the vacant places from Messi and Dembele.

and for yesterday's match against Spurs, the team did not have strong strength and only relied on Harry Kane. maybe some Spurs fans do not agree with this but the truth is it is. just try without Harry Kane, can Spurs have a good performance in every match. but it is commendable the performance of the Spurs at least still scored 2 scores.
but sorry its not a friendly match but its a Joan Gamper Trophy match and its a great start to the season for Barcelona.

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August 09, 2023, 10:13:15 AM
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About Barcelona, There is still news if Barcelona continue to look for new players. It looks like they want to borrow Cancelo, but Man City want to sell permanently. But it seems that Barcelona want to borrow him, so Barcelona tried to approach Frimpong from Bayern Leverkusen. But Fripong is also not cheap, Leverkusen want €30 million. Of course this is news that makes me surprised, because many of Barcelona's financial rumors and players that have not been registered until now are still quite a lot and and Barcelona have limited salary cap problems.

Source: https://www.football-espana.net/2023/08/08/barcelona-contact-bundesliga-star-as-alternative-to-joao-cancelo

More of Cancelo has been seen but no same for Jeremy Frimpong who had another wonderful season beith Bayern Leverkusen. Not just Barcelona, Erik Ten Hag also placed him amongst the players he must get but then Wan Bisakka after the World Cup Competition leveled up his game.
Though I will go for Cancelo over Jeremy Frimpong. Frimpong is a very fast player but Cancelo has worked with Pep Guardiola has a better understanding to the game over Frimpong. The fee might be the little issue since they have financial matters at hand.
Joao Cancelo is one of the best full backs at the moment in my own opinion and that's because of his ability to join attack when his team is attacking and to also fall back defensively when they're defending.
If Barcelona's current financial stand can't afford the Portuguese outrightly, they should try and get his services by loaning him from his club because I think he's better than Jeremy Frimpong.

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August 09, 2023, 10:33:33 AM
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Franck Kessie was so disappointed and hurt after becoming one of the victims of Barcelona's bad finances. He has always dreamed of playing with Barcelona since last season and therefore it is hoped that his arrival will last longer to defend the Blaugrana. But things were different after Xavi rarely played and he was sorely disappointed that after signing on a free agent from AC Milan last season then within a year he had been sold by Barcelona to the Saudi league club. It's very clear how Barcelona doesn't appreciate their players just because of the money they always wanted and the sense of loyalty that Franck Kessie wanted to show has now turned into a bitter taste that will be hard to get rid of.

Source: https://onefootball.com/id/berita/barcelona-midfielder-disappointed-with-the-club-ahead-of-15-million-departure-37994503

Kessie was a part of the lineup in most of the matches last season. He wasn't performing badly either. Did Barcelona really want to sell him due to poor finances? Firstly I don't think Barcelona's financial status is in bad condition. They have made big sponsorship signings so they must have a big transfer budget.

Secondly rather than poor finances they have issues with FFP rules when they want to sign new players of their choice. Because of this they need to make some improvement in their budget. But Kessie wasn't exactly one of top earners in the squad though.

I wonder whether Kessie himself wanted to go to Saudi Arabia depending on the salary offer he got from there.

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Barcelona can't spend too much money no matter how good their finances are now. Because they are still dealing with FFP. This is even why they are planning to add Cancelo to the squad on loan. They are trying to finish some transfers at low cost at least. If Barcelona were more careful with their expenses in the past the situation could have been more different.

They have spent a lot of money on players such as Dembele, Coutinho and so on and they couldn't send them for a profitable amount later on. They just need to be more careful about this as of now if they don't want to have this result again.

That is right but I assume they could also do some create accounting like Chelsea has now done it and still get away with it if they really want a player.

Here in an article from the times it is said that Chelsea had to pay a £8.6m fine for breaching some of the FFP rules or for financial irregularities. Thinking about how crazy they went with their transfers, this penalty seems to be tiny and I wonder how that is supposed to keep Chelsea from having irregularities again.

Barcelona has now been far from the spending level of Chelsea. They could take into account even some minor penalty if they needed to.

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