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Question: 2023/2024 La Liga Champion will be
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Today at 07:38:33 AM
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They were always a top team, they were a top team when zidane and ronaldo and beckham and roberto carlos etc team was there, they were a great team when ramos, benzema, ronaldo, modric di maria and so forth played together too, and now they are a great team with vini and jude and valverde etc playing together with Mbappe getting added to that bunch. They are always a great team and they are almost always rich as well, they do not overspend like other teams, they spend just what they need and the results are showing itself.

I believe that we need to realize that Real Madrid is the best team in the world when it comes to knowing how to manage a football club, there could be other teams better at other things ,but how to manage a football club is a master piece there.
Yes, those times were the most beautiful where Real Madrid had many star players who really made European football admired by everyone, especially for every UCL competition, but now new era has emerged and hopefully they will be able to maintain their throne at the top European football.
And all this success is always inseparable from the performance of coaches who are able to maintain Real Madrid stability every season, look all Real Madrid coaches are great coaches and so far they have never failed in leading Real Madrid during their tenure.
Lastly, Ancelotti is an old man figure who is able to lead the Real Madrid squad and can manage all his players very well, he can determine what Real Madrid deserves and can prove that new era for Real Madrid has truly begun.

Everyone who works for Real Madrid, whether in management within the team or at the top level, can always work very well, they can avoid various problems that are detrimental to the team and can take lot of careful consideration into every decision they take.
Apart from that, there is no problem that they cannot solve well, whether it is financial or the arrival and departure of players can always end up according to expectations.

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Today at 07:51:30 AM
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Real Madrid didn't prepare anything, but they have money and are financially stable, that's why they have been able to survive until now. Having competent player assets makes the Real Madrid squad able to become the kings of La Liga, even though spending money on players is not able to match Real Madrid's players.  with all existing aspects, Real Madrid has always been a candidate for the Champions League, so it is not surprising that Real Madrid is always easy with what this club wants to achieve, everything is always achieved easily, even though they are undergoing regeneration, they always apply their players to good and proven patterns in all competitions,  However, despite this, Real Madrid has a weakness that Real Madrid has never achieved, namely the Trible Winner, which Real Madrid has never experienced while having players in the CR7 era.

Proper management of the club allows them to maintain a balance between investments and achievements, they invest a lot of money in players, but by winning titles they receive large prize money which can cover most of the expenses. With the same calculation, Barcelona recruited players, they hoped to achieve big victories and thus get out of a difficult financial situation, but this is not always as easy to do as it seems. When there are financial problems, then among other things, you also need to be able to conduct competent financial planning, without this nothing will change, it seems that Flick shares this point of view.



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Today at 07:58:08 AM
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This is the point. They have money. They have the money because the Madrid management knows very well how and where to spend the money will benefit them. And I will give full credit to Madrid boss Florentina Perez. Perez is very experienced. This is why the Madrid team does not face financial crisis.

If Joan Laporta had spent money with some ingenuity and caution, the Barcelona team would not have faced such a financial crisis. I would definitely blame Joan Laporta for Barcelona and the bad situation. Because even a few years ago, Barcelona was in a stronger financial position. But now Barcelona are in a very bad position. We don't know when Barcelona will be able to stabilize financially and dominate La Liga again. It is now a difficult task for Barcelona.
This is Joan Laporta's mistake so they are now suffering the consequences. Regarding when they will recover and be able to compete again with Real Madrid in the race for the title, I think it will take a long time, especially since their rivals are able to make the team's performance very stable, so it will be even more difficult for Barcelona.

Currently, Barcelona has no other way to build a team other than hoping for young players from their academy. They must produce superior or potential seeds to develop in the next few seasons so they can compete with Real Madrid.

I predict that maybe in the next 3 or 5 seasons, when some of Barcelona's potential young players will have enough experience and have matured, they will be able to compete with Real Madrid and regarding the team's financial recovery, when they can achieve success, it will take a little longer.

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Today at 08:15:33 AM
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This is the point. They have money. They have the money because the Madrid management knows very well how and where to spend the money will benefit them. And I will give full credit to Madrid boss Florentina Perez. Perez is very experienced. This is why the Madrid team does not face financial crisis.

If Joan Laporta had spent money with some ingenuity and caution, the Barcelona team would not have faced such a financial crisis. I would definitely blame Joan Laporta for Barcelona and the bad situation. Because even a few years ago, Barcelona was in a stronger financial position. But now Barcelona are in a very bad position. We don't know when Barcelona will be able to stabilize financially and dominate La Liga again. It is now a difficult task for Barcelona.
Financial strength of course provides an advantage for Madrid in building a qualified squad, so far Madrid has always brought in many star players but their financial condition is still relatively very stable, so it seems that the financial management owned by Madrid is currently well regulated and of course Perez has managed to make Madrid develop both from their current achievements and finances,  Unlike Barcelona which is now in a very bad financial condition and even before was threatened with bankruptcy due to the lack of balance in their finances, Barcelona is no different from Madrid which is a big team in La Liga, previously they also had very good finances but Barcelona financial management that was not well managed made them now in bad finances.

Looking at Barcelona current condition, of course, it is difficult to say that they will soon recover and stabilize, currently Laporta still continues to choose alternatives to sell broadcasting rights, cut player salaries and also sell players to stabilize their finances, but I think it only has a short and non-permanent impact in solving existing problems, if Laporta cares about Barcelona, he should have to find a more effective solution in solving the problem that exist today.

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Today at 01:06:50 PM
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Barcelona's sporting director, Deco, tried to find a left winger who had been vacant for a long time and his choice fell on Luis Diaz from Liverpool. He will be a priority target for the left wing and I think that is a pretty good option rather than having to keep making other players difficult. As we know, the left winger position is quite a concern because sometimes this position is filled by players who are not in their natural position, such as Gavi, Joao Felix, or others.

Because of this, Barcelona must look for a definite player in that position and the possibility of Ansu Fati returning is also increasingly slim. The reason is that Brighton's loan period ended this June and there is still no progress on whether Ansu Fati can return to Barcelona or not and if Brighton intends to make him permanent then that could be additional funds to sign Luis Diaz.

Source: https://colombia.as.com/futbol/colombianos-por-el-mundo/flick-respalda-a-deco-para-ir-por-luis-diaz-n/
Barcelona is openly interested in Luis Diaz, but their new recruit to fill the position on the left wing still prioritizes Nico Williams. The presence of players who play in the left wing position is very necessary in order to maintain balance at the front, so far in the Xavi era, several players have filled that position because they did not have a player operating in that area.
Luis Diaz could be an alternative if Barcelona fails to bring in Nico Williams, but the presence of a new coach could create another surprise that was never expected before, he may have another reliable target in that position. Ansu Fati started not getting a place at Barcelona, ​​his loan to Brighton was due to his performance not meeting the club management's expectations. He will be included in the process of bringing in Florian Wirtz, Deco really wants Florian Wirtz to be in the Barcelona squad and Hansi Flick also really agrees with this option.
I've also heard about Nico Williams and rather than Luis Diaz it seems like Barcelona will be closer to Nico Williams. Because I don't think Liverpool will easily give up Luis Diaz, especially since Liverpool doesn't have a good left winger like Luis Diaz. So it looks like as long as Liverpool can keep Luis Diaz from leaving then Barcelona won't get him.

Florian Wirtz? I think most people already know that this Leverkusen player will be a Real Madrid transfer in 2025 and it seems like Barcelona won't be able to do anything if their rival is Real Madrid, which has everything. So I think Florian Wirtz going to Barcelona is just a baseless rumor, especially with a market value of 130 million euros, Barcelona doesn't have that kind of money to sign him.

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Today at 03:21:49 PM
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Real Madrid didn't prepare anything, but they have money and are financially stable, that's why they have been able to survive until now. Having competent player assets makes the Real Madrid squad able to become the kings of La Liga, even though spending money on players is not able to match Real Madrid's players.  with all existing aspects, Real Madrid has always been a candidate for the Champions League, so it is not surprising that Real Madrid is always easy with what this club wants to achieve, everything is always achieved easily, even though they are undergoing regeneration, they always apply their players to good and proven patterns in all competitions,  However, despite this, Real Madrid has a weakness that Real Madrid has never achieved, namely the Trible Winner, which Real Madrid has never experienced while having players in the CR7 era.

Proper management of the club allows them to maintain a balance between investments and achievements, they invest a lot of money in players, but by winning titles they receive large prize money which can cover most of the expenses. With the same calculation, Barcelona recruited players, they hoped to achieve big victories and thus get out of a difficult financial situation, but this is not always as easy to do as it seems. When there are financial problems, then among other things, you also need to be able to conduct competent financial planning, without this nothing will change, it seems that Flick shares this point of view.
When a team competes, they get money from various sectors, for example from ticket sales, winning bets at gambling venues and others. All teams that compete in several big competitions want their team to win because the money they will get will be very high. The money that has been collected is of course not used unilaterally. When the team needs new players at a fairly high price, they still have the money generated from previous wins. As happened with Real Madrid. They managed to win the competition last season, so they collected a lot of money and they were able to buy Mbappe at a fairly expensive price.

It is not easy to manage the financial conditions of a football team because the conditions they experience are very different. Barcelona some time ago experienced a very worrying crisis which had an impact on the performance of its players. Hopefully Barcelona can learn from this experience and be more careful when deciding to buy new players.

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Today at 03:26:20 PM
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This is the point. They have money. They have the money because the Madrid management knows very well how and where to spend the money will benefit them. And I will give full credit to Madrid boss Florentina Perez. Perez is very experienced. This is why the Madrid team does not face financial crisis.

If Joan Laporta had spent money with some ingenuity and caution, the Barcelona team would not have faced such a financial crisis. I would definitely blame Joan Laporta for Barcelona and the bad situation. Because even a few years ago, Barcelona was in a stronger financial position. But now Barcelona are in a very bad position. We don't know when Barcelona will be able to stabilize financially and dominate La Liga again. It is now a difficult task for Barcelona.
Since Florentina Perez served as president of Real Madrid in 2009, Real Madrid has truly been at the peak of its glory, because from then until now Real Madrid has truly become a team that has won many trophies. This of course cannot be separated from Florentina Perez's cold and careful attitude, who is always wise in spending money on her club. Because as we know, until now Real Madrid has never really experienced significant financial difficulties. Because in essence, every time Real Madrid spends money to buy expensive players it can always bring very positive results. So in essence, the Real Madrid analysis team deserves a thumbs up for this. The reason is that they are rarely wrong in choosing which players to bring to Real Madrid. That's why Real Madrid is really a very successful team at the moment. Because the club president, management team, analysis team, club coaches and players really carry out their duties very well. So it's not surprising that Real Madrid is currently the team with the 3rd most expensive squad in the world.

Then when it comes to Barcelona, ​​I think it will be very difficult for them to recover from the financial downturn they are currently experiencing. The reason is that the mistakes made by Barcelona in the 2014 season until now have been very fatal. So for now Barcelona just needs to be a team that can really manage the players it currently has very well. Because Barcelona definitely has to limit buying players in the transfer market. Maybe for now Barcelona has to really fight little by little to make Barcelona recover. And I personally don't completely blame Laporta, because of course this happened to Barcelona as a result of everyone who worked there not working well.

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Today at 03:59:53 PM
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Even though Perez had built the Los Galacticos squad, which of course required a large player budget, Perez was very astute in buying players. Of course Ancelotti also has a hand here. But as far as I know, Real Madrid rarely buys players who are overpriced and end up harming the club's finances. Some of the players they bought, if they can't become core players, are at least very good when they become supersubs. This is different from Barcelona, ​​which has made many mistakes when purchasing players in the past. The best purchase they ever made was when they made the MSN trio but after that several failed purchases left Barcelona in a financial crisis because they were in conflict with Financial Fair Play rules.
Let me put it this way, it took Real 45 million to get Vinicious, 100 million for Jude, 5 million for Valverde and raised him from Castilla to main squad, and 45 million for Rodrygo, and now free for Mbappe. So, those players all combined transfer value is 195 million, most teams at the top level spend that on yearly basis and get nothing, hell if you remove Jude, they spent 95 million on Vini, Rodrygo, Valverde and Mbappe, can you imagine that?

They are not "business savy" teams, they are just Real Madrid, and players wants to go there, and teams can't expect a ton of money, or player will leave for free. Like PSG for example, they could have sold Mbappe, they didn't, now they made zero, so teams knows this and accepts cheapest they can.

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Today at 04:06:17 PM
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Barcelona is openly interested in Luis Diaz, but their new recruit to fill the position on the left wing still prioritizes Nico Williams. The presence of players who play in the left wing position is very necessary in order to maintain balance at the front, so far in the Xavi era, several players have filled that position because they did not have a player operating in that area.
Luis Diaz could be an alternative if Barcelona fails to bring in Nico Williams, but the presence of a new coach could create another surprise that was never expected before, he may have another reliable target in that position. Ansu Fati started not getting a place at Barcelona, ​​his loan to Brighton was due to his performance not meeting the club management's expectations. He will be included in the process of bringing in Florian Wirtz, Deco really wants Florian Wirtz to be in the Barcelona squad and Hansi Flick also really agrees with this option.
Barcelona in recent seasons has been very difficult to compete with Madrid and even some other strong teams, although indeed Xavi managed to keep barcelona in the top tier of La Liga but we have to admit that competing for the championship trophy is not an easy thing for Barcelona to do at this time, so indeed Barcelona is starting to try to target several other players to be able to strengthen their squad next season,  Deco and Diaz have reportedly met but so far there is no certainty about Diaz future Remembering that currently Diaz is focusing on Colombia, the meeting of Deco and Diaz of course silences all speculation circulating if Hansi Flick does not need new players to restore Barcelona glory next season.

In addition to diaz, reportedly deco has also begun to target several other players who are indeed in accordance with flick current wishes, but the problem now is that the players targeted by deco are star players and the club mainstay, so that often the clubs will set a high price if there are other clubs who want to buy him,  The question now is whether Barcelona has the ability to buy ?  

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Today at 04:11:47 PM
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Real Madrid have always been successful in buying young talented players and they have strengthened each position with a lot of importance but Barcelona have not been able to take advantage of their formation. Where Real Madrid is increasing the market value of every player, Barcelona is a complete failure. Barcelona have spent huge sums of money on players that have subsequently had to be released for free. If you buy a player for 100 million and release that player for free, then the situation of that club will definitely be like that of Barcelona. However, they should learn from their mistakes as now they can target young players and build them well and sell them later to profit. If they are successful in planning like this, then again their problem of financial deterioration will be removed.
Yesterday, I had a little argument with someone that the reason why Real Madrid is having more quality players in their squad than Barcelona does is because the Spanish champions spends more in signing players while Barcelona are always waiting for their star players to either emerge from the club's academy or sign players that are free agents but he bluntly said no with the reasons he stated. He said the reason why Barcelona are currently suffering is because they invested on the wrong players who failed to live up to their expectations. In other to back up his claims, he told me that Barcelona's biggest signings in the last six years all flopped.
Barcelona after selling Neymar Jr to Paris Saint Germaine signed Philippe Coutinho from Liverpool in a deal that was over 100 million pounds, they also spent over 100 million pounds each to sign Ousmane Dembele and Antoine Griezzmann but none of the excelled at the club. Barcelona is you ask me still have a long way to go before they can be able to match Real Madrid again
Spend money in the transfer window in such a way that it pays you back later. Real Madrid will sign a talented player then they will take that player to a very good level and they will achieve everything with that player then sell that player to another club. By doing this, their club's performance will be better as well as they will get a good amount of financial support. Barcelona and Real Madrid are considered to be tough opponents, but with the way Barcelona are currently going forward, matches between Barcelona and Real Madrid will never be tough.
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Today at 04:25:05 PM
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It is not easy to manage the financial conditions of a football team because the conditions they experience are very different. Barcelona some time ago experienced a very worrying crisis which had an impact on the performance of its players. Hopefully Barcelona can learn from this experience and be more careful when deciding to buy new players.
Yes, that's right and I also think that Barcelona will definitely learn from their mistakes because until now they are still surviving as a team and rival to Madrid as a team that was successful last season. Luckily, Barcelona is doing various things to maintain this team and not really go bankrupt. but I still think what made them experience this kind of chaos so that this team experienced a really prolonged financial crisis which might have an impact on the team in the next few years, if they couldn't recover soon. because all teams need financial support to keep going.

We see that Barcelona also seems to be a team that is not spending a lot on players to fill the main squad in the competition next season and they are developing more young players to become important players in the main squad and Hansi Flick certainly supports this because he can also make the team This is really from zero and didn't come to train when this team was really progressing, Hansi Flick seems to have come at the right time to start everything from zero at Barcelona and will try to revive Barcelona's downturn so that it can return to being a great team like before.

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Today at 04:29:07 PM
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Real Madrid has been way better when it comes to managing the given transfer budget compared to Barcelona. It is so easy to prove that. Look at Barcelona's failure transfers: Coutinho, Griezmann, Dembele... Yeah I'm including even Dembele. Because he wasn't consistent enough you know. One season he was impressive but in another he was really bad.  Sad

Barcelona spent unbelievable amount of money in total for these transfers. Hundreds of millions we are talking about. If this transfer policy isn't fixed there is no way Barcelona is keeping their finances stable.

Sponsorship deals keep you safe for a certain time but after that it is up to how you manage your finances in the end.

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Today at 04:48:48 PM
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Proper management of the club allows them to maintain a balance between investments and achievements, they invest a lot of money in players, but by winning titles they receive large prize money which can cover most of the expenses. With the same calculation, Barcelona recruited players, they hoped to achieve big victories and thus get out of a difficult financial situation, but this is not always as easy to do as it seems. When there are financial problems, then among other things, you also need to be able to conduct competent financial planning, without this nothing will change, it seems that Flick shares this point of view.

I read the news which said that Barcelona's finances started to get worse since 2015 when they bought a lot of players at fantastic prices at that time. Poor financial management, failed player purchases and Covid-19 have meant that they have suffered financial failure around 2021-2022. I think Barcelona will take a few years to get back to financial health. I really regret this situation because Barcelona currently will not be able to compete in El Classico.

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Today at 05:14:26 PM
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Real Madrid didn't prepare anything, but they have money and are financially stable, that's why they have been able to survive until now. Having competent player assets makes the Real Madrid squad able to become the kings of La Liga, even though spending money on players is not able to match Real Madrid's players.  with all existing aspects, Real Madrid has always been a candidate for the Champions League, so it is not surprising that Real Madrid is always easy with what this club wants to achieve, everything is always achieved easily, even though they are undergoing regeneration, they always apply their players to good and proven patterns in all competitions,  However, despite this, Real Madrid has a weakness that Real Madrid has never achieved, namely the Trible Winner, which Real Madrid has never experienced while having players in the CR7 era.
Money talks in soccer. Real Madrid has benefited because they have a lot of it. But you know what else they got? They have Florentino Perez. He's a winner. He understands team building, player purchase, and financial management. Barcelona got money too, but they dont know what to do with it. Though they are not winning like Real Madrid, they are slinging money about like confetti. Why? Because they dont have a leader like Florentino.

So, yeah, money helps, but its not everything. At the top you need someone who understands soccer and winning strategies. Real Madrid is outstanding because of that quality.

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Today at 05:28:53 PM
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I read the news which said that Barcelona's finances started to get worse since 2015 when they bought a lot of players at fantastic prices at that time. Poor financial management, failed player purchases and Covid-19 have meant that they have suffered financial failure around 2021-2022. I think Barcelona will take a few years to get back to financial health. I really regret this situation because Barcelona currently will not be able to compete in El Classico.
Various methods have been taken to make their finances stable again, but the efforts made by management have not been completely successful, they are still having financial difficulties which makes the situation even more difficult. Financial limitations made Barcelona lose one of its most valuable assets for free, Messi departure because Barcelona could not afford to pay his large salary. Barcelona must be wise in bringing in players because finances are very limited, they need to sell several players to get some money to bring in new players.

The only thing that can save Barcelona from financial decline is by utilizing players from La Masia. In the last two years Barcelona has very often promoted players from La Masia to the first team. Their presence can help Barcelona save on club expenses. Barcelona needs to reorganize its strength to provide competition again in the title race and can also compete again in El Clasico.

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Proper management of the club allows them to maintain a balance between investments and achievements, they invest a lot of money in players, but by winning titles they receive large prize money which can cover most of the expenses. With the same calculation, Barcelona recruited players, they hoped to achieve big victories and thus get out of a difficult financial situation, but this is not always as easy to do as it seems. When there are financial problems, then among other things, you also need to be able to conduct competent financial planning, without this nothing will change, it seems that Flick shares this point of view.
Barcelona's poor financial condition has in fact made it difficult for their previous coach's steps and hopes to achieve achievements. Of course they are starting to look good from their success in being in the Champions League zone, but the club officials are likely hoping that Barcelona will win the title instead of just being in the safe zone.

It is impossible to compete for the title with Real Madrid when Barcelona's squad depth is not as competitive as before. Lewandowski declined last season, several main players also suffered long injuries. Xavi's plans failed in the end even when he tried many things, but there remains hope for improvement if coaches and players alike can handle a lot of pressure.

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Today at 08:14:02 PM
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Barcelona's poor financial condition has in fact made it difficult for their previous coach's steps and hopes to achieve achievements. Of course they are starting to look good from their success in being in the Champions League zone, but the club officials are likely hoping that Barcelona will win the title instead of just being in the safe zone.

It is impossible to compete for the title with Real Madrid when Barcelona's squad depth is not as competitive as before. Lewandowski declined last season, several main players also suffered long injuries. Xavi's plans failed in the end even when he tried many things, but there remains hope for improvement if coaches and players alike can handle a lot of pressure.
Get financial problem make Barcelona difficult to compete Real Madrid dominance in La Liga although sign new manager meaning less help Barcelona for winning La Liga trophy in this season. I think primary problem of Barcelona because get difficult financial and current manager Xavi Hernandez plan failed after can't sign top talent players. Barcelona management has huge expected with the manager must be success winning La Liga and keep dominance in Champion League although has financial difficulty for signing new player and not be realistic with how much money spending for signing player with their achievement in domestic league or champion league.

Hansi Flick keep waiting how much money allocated for next season to sign new players, the rival team Real Madrid last week announced success signing Mbappe and waiting will Barcelona sign more better players than Real Madrid or only promote the youth players to senior team.

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