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[YOSHIE]

Just simply copy the thread link and post it down right here. Even tho, there are really obvious in the merit system it is really quite hard to provide a very solid evidences especially if the trade conversion happens outside the forum.

I really hate it when the subjective matter are actually being used to abuse this system.

It happened, Merit was traded with Alt.

Complaining, complaining,

Black market of merit.

@ prince7059, it's been a long time in this Forum, Stop this drama.
Upset about the member account blocked.

delivery (sMerit) fellow alt:

1. mr. charming  (Archived)
1. Bpip

2. pratik009
2. Bpip

3. prince7059
3. Bpip


Proof:

Bitcointalk Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1133846ost Count:
Merit Count:108
BTC Address: 3P6CV4GnsUdHtFtX2UBdWhWub422yPUtRQ
Telegram Username: @pratik0009

http://archive.is/tDAe0

Your Telegram Username: -Champ7059
Your Btc address (same as on form): 3P6CV4GnsUdHtFtX2UBdWhWub422yPUtRQ

http://archive.is/HHitS

Hello bitcointalk.
The price is less than other servuce providers.
Or contact me on Telegram: @Champ7059
Thank you.

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[rhomelmabini]

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Seems the OP is the one that promotes the so-called "black market of merit". You've been busted as a ban evader, a merit trader between your alts. Good find there @YOSHIE!

Sooner or later you can complain on the email for appealing your ban but I guess the chance is so rare for you to get unbanned or even have a temporary or a signature ban.

[mikeywith]

  Can you quote them or something if you can't post an image? 

There really is no need for a proof, we all know that most of us here don't really have the same "standards" when it comes to sending merit , I sometimes merit posts that make me laugh , I would like to see a single member who sent a few hundreds of merit without having merited a funny-shitty post, I am willing to bet on "none".

The problem with these newbies coming in thinking the merit system is being used by a bot that is always consistent, which is not the case, in fact if you look at suchmoon's topic Users that you should merit, you will notice that some merit sources haven't sent a single merit to some members who earned over 1000 merit, which indicates that there is some sort of personal preference , 5 people might think your posts deserve to be merited while 10 other people might think your posts are complete trash , some people do post quality posts but members hate them for their shitty attitude - thus they earn way less merit than other members with the same post quality.

I personally don't see anything seriously wrong with how the merit system works ,despite the imperfection, it is doing just fine.

[Negotiation]

I personally don't see anything seriously wrong with how the merit system works ,despite the imperfection, it is doing just fine.

I agree with your opinion that there are no specific rules in terms of getting merit, it depends on the good of someone if someone likes it they provide merit there sometimes there are interesting things about merit here. The merit given in the post is not the same as the merit given on the first or second page in the machine part. Pages are not provided corresponding Merit Merit most cases it works is still unknown.

[hd49728]

There really is no need for a proof, we all know that most of us here don't really have the same "standards" when it comes to sending merit , I sometimes merit posts that make me laugh , I would like to see a single member who sent a few hundreds of merit without having merited a funny-shitty post, I am willing to bet on "none".

The problem with these newbies coming in thinking the merit system is being used by a bot that is always consistent, which is not the case, in fact if you look at suchmoon's topic Users that you should merit, you will notice that some merit sources haven't sent a single merit to some members who earned over 1000 merit, which indicates that there is some sort of personal preference , 5 people might think your posts deserve to be merited while 10 other people might think your posts are complete trash , some people do post quality posts but members hate them for their shitty attitude - thus they earn way less merit than other members with the same post quality.

I personally don't see anything seriously wrong with how the merit system works ,despite the imperfection, it is doing just fine.

People complain and cry when see laughing posts received merits. They instantly judge that merit senders and receivers are merit abusers. They don't understand that everyone need laugh to have a happy life. Furthermore, no one can rank up with such posts; because if they earn 100 merits in total, and all of those 100 earned merits are come from laughing posts, they will sure be considered as abusers.
Intensity and quantity of those laughing posts and merits earned mixed together to help us judge someone abuse merits or not.
Nowadays, black market of merit or black market of accounts have come to end, due to Trust, Flags, merit system. A bought-legendary account will be caught if apply in bitcoin paid campaign, and with shit-post history, will never get acceptance.

[arpon11]

@op is not far away from the truth on how merit is been abused by some group of members in this forum. However, thank to some members here that has been finding out those merits’ abuse and has been tagging them.
The forum is large and that makes it very difficult for us to have a system that is free from abusing and manipulation.

[tranthidung]

We have

131 merit sources with a total merit generation of up to 21045 sMerit per 30 days

I know that page, and that statistics on total merits generated and allocated to merit sources, but today you reminded me about that. Fortunately, I likely more creative today, and discovered interesting fact from those statistics.
21045 sMerits per 30 days, so if we take average per day, it is nearly 702 available sMerits to be available from merit sources (only account for allocated sMerits for sources).
From my threads, the median of intra-day merits so far is 628 (from Time Series Analysis on Distributed Merits in the forum (daily, weekly, monthly))

(2) Median of intraday merits over the period is 628;

It discloses the fact that there are merit sources often not use all of their monthly sMerits cap.

The median at 628 sMerits circulated per day is for all forum, and merit sources are just one of components. Additionally, merit sources earn merit themselves - they are excellent posters, and they certainly have more sMerits than monthly allocated ones

Code:

. di 21035/30
701.16667

. di (628-702)/702*100
-10.541311

To sum up, both merit sources and normal users have still hoarded their sMerits (different extents for each user). Me too.

[Lucius]

Yeah, it probably is too low.  On the other hand, at least those campaigns have a merit requirement--there's no obligation for a manager to require a particular number of merits, and it's a good thing when they do.

Merit requirement is sometimes good, but it should not be the sole criterion for campaign managers - some members earn merits only by using their alt accounts of by buying them. Quality posts usually entails merits, so it is not difficult to choose between good and bad members. What we can all see is a very small number of members who are ranking up thanks to some contributions to the forum, which is a problem when some good signature campaign is show up - there simply aren't enough qualified members.

...which indicates that there is some sort of personal preference , 5 people might think your posts deserve to be merited while 10 other people might think your posts are complete trash , some people do post quality posts but members hate them for their shitty attitude - thus they earn way less merit than other members with the same post quality.

I totally agree with your opinion, for those who are active on a daily basis on forum it's not hard to notice that some members have their favorites when it comes to merit, and some members always get merited, others never or on rare occasions. Personal preference is very important factor in merit system, so it's not all about writing quality posts. Some members have even publicly admitted that that they got 50 merits for single post, even if that post was not some super extra quality content.

[Coyster]

which is a problem when some good signature campaign is show up - there simply aren't enough qualified members.

I think the reverse is actually the case here, just as it has been said earlier in this thread. I think it's a dearth of BTC good signature campaign rather than lack of good posters, and I also think there are more than enough good posters to go round the campaigns, but there are not just enough open slots for them, which takes them to enroll in the majority campaigns which happens to be shitty ICO campaigns; which might actually be a waste of time for them, and no compensation for their good efforts through their posts on the forum.

Personal preference is very important factor in merit system,

I agree with you on this and it's due to a user appreciating anothers posting style, which is very important, and the impression the user has created on the forum, good posters who have cemented their legacy as such(good posters)tend to always receive merits even if what's written at that particular time is just normal or not worth merits, thats why it's always important for users to create good impressions on the forum and present themselves as good/quality posters from the outset.

[masterkiller]

Merits another issue of the forum, shitty post get merits has 3 reason
1. they a couple
2. they pay for it
3. they know each other
4. they butt licker ( you know what I mean )