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sech1
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November 21, 2019, 07:55:53 PM |
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From what I've seen so far on loki/wownero/arqma, there's 100 MH/s ready to mine Monero from day 1. How much more is ready? No one knows.
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sech1
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November 22, 2019, 10:44:35 AM |
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Most rigs use Intel CPUs, there won't be 11 KH/s per rig. Even if they all were AMD AM4 boards, have you tried to buy 3900X recently? Mission impossible. But I do think hashrate will go up to 1 GH/s after the fork.
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November 22, 2019, 01:52:06 PM |
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$600 usd cpu to give $1 per day still better than anything a gpu can offer at moment but is not only the $600, you need motherboard $100, memory $40 and ssd $30, $770 just to start it off. ROI 770 days, 2 years, hehehehehehehe if is $1 per day net, i mean without electricity or any other cost. Investing in mining has been the worse investment for the past 2 years and will continue till coin prices multiply in 2020 or 2021 but even though, it might still be, best thing is to protect yourself from stupid decisions and that includes, invest any money in mining whatsoever.
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November 22, 2019, 02:24:00 PM |
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Most rigs use Intel CPUs, there won't be 11 KH/s per rig. Even if they all were AMD AM4 boards, have you tried to buy 3900X recently? Mission impossible. But I do think hashrate will go up to 1 GH/s after the fork.
There are many more CPUs running at a current moment rather than GPUs. So if they are all turned on at the same time and pointed towards Monero, the hash will be at a crazy number. It will also be easier to create a miner for it to run in FPGA because of the compatibility with CPU mining. So, that's that. Still, I hope early adopters can crunch some hashes and earn a good number of coins before it hits the fan.
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November 22, 2019, 10:48:14 PM |
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It will also be easier to create a miner for it to run in FPGA because of the compatibility with CPU mining.
At best you can create emulation of CPU which will be less efficient than regular CPU (of course). A point that is missed by many. Emulating a CPU is a lot more complex than emulating a hashing algorithm. There is always FUD leading up to a big fork, most of it self serving.
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November 23, 2019, 11:51:51 PM |
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November 25, 2019, 05:27:34 AM |
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A point that is missed by many. Emulating a CPU is a lot more complex than emulating a hashing algorithm.
There is always FUD leading up to a big fork, most of it self serving.
Yeah, that is always a great time to accumulate. What are the numbers for a 2700X guys?
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November 25, 2019, 07:32:41 PM |
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FYI we have built a prototype plug in play CPU based home miner. Not sure if we are going to release it yet, but its essentially a CPU system shrunk to the minimum size possible, with custom BIOS and components optimized for Random X and based off 3900.
Operation will be similar to Apollo, it runs off an embedded linux system with browser based GUI.
14KH/s @150 Watts at the wall using our custom PSU, in a quiet stackable 7x7x2.5 inch box.
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November 25, 2019, 07:40:21 PM |
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FYI we have built a prototype plug in play CPU based home miner. Not sure if we are going to release it yet, but its essentially a CPU system shrunk to the minimum size possible, with custom BIOS and components optimized for Random X and based off 3900.
Operation will be similar to Apollo, it runs off an embedded linux system with browser based GUI.
14KH/s @150 Watts at the wall using our custom PSU, in a quiet stackable 7x7x2.5 inch box.
THANK YOU for this total not important and helpfull information for us.
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November 26, 2019, 03:38:03 AM |
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Thx, been debating this or a 1920x or a 3600 for a htpc that will background hash. So Ryzen lineup is heavily bandwidth dependent? I'm aware that ryzen performance curve peaks at ~3600 ram spd so is that we are seeing with randomx as well?
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November 26, 2019, 11:58:04 AM |
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Thx, been debating this or a 1920x or a 3600 for a htpc that will background hash. So Ryzen lineup is heavily bandwidth dependent? I'm aware that ryzen performance curve peaks at ~3600 ram spd so is that we are seeing with randomx as well? my 1920x got around 7kh/s. overall the build was $500-700. Amazon has a deal going for $200 for the 1920x. I probably went overboard with the amount of ram. I thought it needed 2 gb per thread... no, its 2gb per numa node. and 1920x is just 1 node. So you could get away with 8gb to 16 gb prolly.
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Thx, been debating this or a 1920x or a 3600 for a htpc that will background hash. So Ryzen lineup is heavily bandwidth dependent? I'm aware that ryzen performance curve peaks at ~3600 ram spd so is that we are seeing with randomx as well? Yes, 3600 Mhz ram speed works well in general. For Ryzen general tips are: - Turn off PBO and auto overclocking. - Manually Overclock CPU (Ryzen Master) and increase core voltage. - Turn on XMP profile on BIOS. - Tune memory using Ryzen Dram Calculator On this video Anthony explains overclocking details very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w1EGPZUESU&feature=emb_logo
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my 1920x got around 7kh/s. overall the build was $500-700. Amazon has a deal going for $200 for the 1920x. I probably went overboard with the amount of ram. I thought it needed 2 gb per thread... no, its 2gb per numa node. and 1920x is just 1 node. So you could get away with 8gb to 16 gb prolly.
Good info thanks. Yes, 3600 Mhz ram speed works well in general. For Ryzen general tips are: - Turn off PBO and auto overclocking. - Manually Overclock CPU (Ryzen Master) and increase core voltage. - Turn on XMP profile on BIOS. - Tune memory using Ryzen Dram Calculator On this video Anthony explains overclocking details very well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w1EGPZUESU&feature=emb_logoIOU +sM as soon as I get some. Any Mobo recommendations guys? I've been pretty happy with asrock last few generations, I'll need 3 pci-E 8x slots is there a specific solid stable series you guys recommend. AFA as ram is samsung b-die still the goto option, any specific recommendations on what 32gb kit? Also AM4 Ryzen doesn't like to clock over 2 slots well is the TH series the same? Added: just watched the vid, good info. I like this Anthony guy, he knows what he's talking about. I've had LTT on ignore forever since that whining sniveling Linus doesn't know jack shit (I watched one of his vids on system building where he did everything wrong and thought "jesus i hope the kids don't do what this moron is doing")(also he was such a massive fanboi i couldn't listen to him) and i was getting spammed with his channel. With the decoupling he touched on i was reminded of my 939 socket OC days. btw check out Buildzoid if you haven't already. Added again: Yeah so after watching that vid now youtube has ignored my settings and has recommended that fucktard LTT channel as every goddamn recommended for me. Muthafucker I hate google. Now I'm off to downvote every vid they spammed me with (j/k I hit not interested on them all). Too bad i'll never what one of those anythony vids again (knowingly) because of the LTT spam. Great Vid here on TR V/S R9 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AR4ICNbG9EM&lc
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November 29, 2019, 09:54:34 AM |
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Any news??? Today is nov29 when this thing is goint to start?
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sech1
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November 29, 2019, 10:16:29 AM |
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November 29, 2019, 10:57:00 AM |
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November 30, 2019, 04:29:20 PM |
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You shouldn't use a cheap mobo if you're going to miner 24/7 with your CPU. The VRMs get hot. They need a beefy cooling solution.
If ASUS, go Prime x570 Pro.
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