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[SportsbookBettor]

Website is clean and neat also i love playing lottery. I know the website is young then you must need to focus on advertising. There are a lot of ways to advertising here and maybe you can run a signature campaign in the future. Hope for a successful years to come.

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[Cherkez]

There is really no other marketing that could be as great as signature campaign, it depends on who you give it out to of course and how you deal with it but at the end of the day if you do it efficiently than you will get a lot of new customers.

First of all there are tons of gamblers here, not just bitcointalk but literally the gambling section, plus there are tons of other casinos here as well which means when you do signature campaign people are literally writing on other casinos with your signature which gets the attention of thier customers and have a chance to switch. Just check out windice, dudes created their casino just in this spring and they have like 150 million bets played, I am sure it cost them a lot at first but they are probably making that ROI back right now thanks to growing so fast.

Thanks for your suggestion, we will arrange related activities in the future. Now there are some airdrops that are easier to get, and everyone can come and participate! ~
VIPGAME will give free 0.0005 BTC to 100 new players-> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5180937.0

[Cherkez]

VIPGAME Daily Bet Race, Bet for 0.06BTC!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182291.new#new

[veleten]

hmm.... I didn't notice the 0.05 eth minimum deposit requirement and sent 0.02
apart from the weird requirement , what happens to my deposit now? does it get credited at least?
my user name is the glorious   TMdumSyclwlR     
and can I change it please , last time I was called  a TMdumSyclwlR   I didn't like it 
there seems to be no chat or support on site , so I'm asking here

[1982dre]

hmm.... I didn't notice the 0.05 eth minimum deposit requirement and sent 0.02
apart from the weird requirement , what happens to my deposit now? does it get credited at least?
my user name is the glorious   TMdumSyclwlR     
and can I change it please , last time I was called  a TMdumSyclwlR   I didn't like it 
there seems to be no chat or support on site , so I'm asking here

At some sites the deposit keeps pending till a new minimum deposit arrives.

I still don't like those sites with a minimum deposit.

[LoyceV]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

[veleten]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

I'd really like to see an answer to my post as well:
I deposited 0.02 etherium a day ago : https://www.blockchain.com/eth/tx/0xfc0779d6ce81a0f0df79058fe5eb1cab5ebe8465c02550e7d483592cccd55de2
it never got credited , neither I received a single reply to my question
there is no onsite support , no chat and bitcointalk thread is the only place to ask , it seems
a true "vipgame" , treat your players like VIPs is the right approach 

[panjul07]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

I'd really like to see an answer to my post as well:
I deposited 0.02 etherium a day ago : https://www.blockchain.com/eth/tx/0xfc0779d6ce81a0f0df79058fe5eb1cab5ebe8465c02550e7d483592cccd55de2
it never got credited , neither I received a single reply to my question
there is no onsite support , no chat and bitcointalk thread is the only place to ask , it seems
a true "vipgame" , treat your players like VIPs is the right approach 

How about sending a private message to Cherkez? Have you done it already?
Regarding the minimum deposit requirement, I think it is due to their minimum bet as well. AFAIK the minimum bet here is a high enough compared to other common gambling sites.
Minimum bet 10k satoshi with bitcoin, 0.005 with ETH, and others. So they set minimum deposit to make sure that players will be able to play for some rounds on the game.
About your deposit which is lower than the minimum requirement, I think they should refund it or credit it to your account as it is a small mistake.

[Cherkez]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

The result of VIPGAME is determined by HASH and cannot be manipulated. There may be problems with the network or display. You can join the telegraph group https://t.me/vipgameio and directly report it to the administrator.

[Cherkez]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

I'd really like to see an answer to my post as well:
I deposited 0.02 etherium a day ago : https://www.blockchain.com/eth/tx/0xfc0779d6ce81a0f0df79058fe5eb1cab5ebe8465c02550e7d483592cccd55de2
it never got credited , neither I received a single reply to my question
there is no onsite support , no chat and bitcointalk thread is the only place to ask , it seems
a true "vipgame" , treat your players like VIPs is the right approach 

Sorry, I didn't respond to you in time. You can get a quick reply by joining the telegram group https://t.me/vipgameio
Your question is: Have you deposited 0.02ETH without a record? TMdumSyclwlR ?
Your recharge may have encountered a transaction rollback, an error has occurred, I will notify you when I finish processing.
Please report your telegram ID.
The emphasis is: please join the telegram group https://t.me/vipgameio, if you have any questions, you can find the answer to the telegraph administrator. The reply here may not be timely enough.

[Cherkez]

it's not fair to make fake accounts to prevent players from getting prizes in races...

some players with a history of several days only have a wager of 0.02-0.05 btc on average and are always in the bottom position, then suddenly they can make a 0.1 btc bet in one bet at the end of time ... and 4 or 5 accounts are all the same (bet 0.1 btc in one bet)..

its FAKE

this site only harms players ...

 for users who haven't joined, if you don't believe, you can prove what I'm saying ...

Someone is there to make money through this strategy.

[LoyceV]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

The result of VIPGAME is determined by HASH and cannot be manipulated.

That's not my question. I'm saying you can easily manipulate which hash is used, and you're just repeating the same as the website says.

There may be problems with the network or display. You can join the telegraph group https://t.me/vipgameio and directly report it to the administrator.

Can you get the administrator to respond here? You're promoting the site on Bitcointalk, I don't care about "the telegraph".

[Cherkez]

I didn't notice my post was in Investor-based games, so I'm quoting myself here because I'd really like to see an answer:

Yesterday, I tested your site and went all-in (with my free 0.0005BTC). It produced an error. I clicked again, and I lost the bet. That error made me question fairness, it doesn't look like something a user can avoid, which means it can be manipulated.

Question about fairness

VIPGAME uses the EOS transaction hash to generate its results, ensuring absolute fairness to all players.

EOS produces several blocks per second. I'm not familiar with using a blockchain as random input (it's the first time I see this implementation), so I have to ask: how can you ensure the bet uses the next block, and how can you guarantee I wouldn't just get an error if the result is in my favour? Or how can you guarantee you won't select one out of the next two results (in less than a second) after I click? The difference could be caused by lag, but it could also be manipulated. How can a player know for sure it's fair?

The result of VIPGAME is determined by HASH and cannot be manipulated.

That's not my question. I'm saying you can easily manipulate which hash is used, and you're just repeating the same as the website says.

There may be problems with the network or display. You can join the telegraph group https://t.me/vipgameio and directly report it to the administrator.

Can you get the administrator to respond here? You're promoting the site on Bitcointalk, I don't care about "the telegraph".

Your question has been processed, you can view the VIPGAME wallet

[LoyceV]

Your question has been processed, you can view the VIPGAME wallet

That doesn't answer my question at all. So I take it you have no answer, and you can indeed manipulate which hash you use for a bet.

[Murat]

Someone is there to make money through this strategy.

So one person is allowed to make multiple accounts & win all the prizes from the contest? Take a look at other sites there are clear rules. And your answer is not professional at all.

That doesn't answer my question at all. So I take it you have no answer, and you can indeed manipulate which hash you use for a bet.

I would not trust the owner at all. Take a look at the usernames in the race & other sites. looks so fake.

[Cherkez]

Your question has been processed, you can view the VIPGAME wallet

That doesn't answer my question at all. So I take it you have no answer, and you can indeed manipulate which hash you use for a bet.

Each game result can be found and verified in the EOS main network section. Don't know why you feel that our results are manipulable? !
You can prove how we manipulate the results! If it's just because you lost, then I can't do anything about it.


I can only continue to talk about the content on the website: How are the Winning Numbers Generated?


DICE :
The winning number(00-99) is generated from the next block of the block contains your betting record.
For example, the player rolled under 50, the block that contained his betting information was 43116451.
So the winning number comes from the next block: 43116452.
BlockHash: 0291e7a49bd634fdb726c8b6f6a962b8959183aab4e929941f244b619f0506f7
Starting from the end, the 2 digits are 6 and 7. So the winning number was 67.

Lottery :
Winning numbers are obtained from the latest transaction hash, with the last number from the end of this latest TxHash representing the winning number, the winning numbers are selected after each round ends. This system is fast, reliable and completely random, making it perfect for Lottery.
If the last digit is a number, it will be considered as a valid number, if not, the next TxHash will be considered, until all 5 numbers are generated. An EOS TxHash is a 32-bit ID randomly generated by a sophisticated encryption algorithm And normally shown as a hex value. Our drawing process takes advantage of this truly random computation process to ensure its fairness and transparency.
E.g. Consider the following consecutive blocks starting from 13:20:00:
(1)...def852eae078366377e8daf33b83066 5
(2)...0cb84b7ee118aeb2e8b6b1f53beed52 c (skipped)
(3)...95c5a8b2310d170cfb655c99ded8ecb 3
(4)...877f2313494cd4f9ac1bf0ac974add8 2
(5)...133ec94f894b1b632ae4856d105c2c5 5
(6)...203b77b226396d652623ffc50aafd24 9
Based on the above, the round result for bets placed from 13:19:00 is 53259.

For details, please refer to the help center on the website.

[Bitinity]

I'm a bit confused with the use of "player" and "user" on your site. Does those two words mean differently?
I see a player is betting good amount of money lately but I dont see this player on leaderboard while his wagering amount on several bets are enough to be on top 10. So does it mean that this player belongs to a "user" on the leaderboard?

[Cherkez]

Someone is there to make money through this strategy.

So one person is allowed to make multiple accounts & win all the prizes from the contest? Take a look at other sites there are clear rules. And your answer is not professional at all.

That doesn't answer my question at all. So I take it you have no answer, and you can indeed manipulate which hash you use for a bet.

I would not trust the owner at all. Take a look at the usernames in the race & other sites. looks so fake.

We are forbidding multiple accounts for one user.
The strategy I am talking about is to calculate the profit margin here by the difference between the number of bets involved in the betting contest and the daily bonus.
Some people will participate in the competition and get bonuses.

[Cherkez]

I'm a bit confused with the use of "player" and "user" on your site. Does those two words mean differently?
I see a player is betting good amount of money lately but I dont see this player on leaderboard while his wagering amount on several bets are enough to be on top 10. So does it mean that this player belongs to a "user" on the leaderboard?

Yes, "player" and "user" are the same,
Just showing the problem, some accounts in "All Bets" show his corresponding EOS account.
The player you see should be in the leaderboard, just showing his corresponding EOS account.
We will improve this display problem as soon as possible and display it as a user name.

[LoyceV]

Don't know why you feel that our results are manipulable? !

I've taken this discussion to the Reputation board: vipgame.io claims to be fair but can't prove it.