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August 23, 2019, 08:25:11 AM |
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Bounty hunters still think that its hard to read and they care less about guidelines and go for the gorgeous bounty allotment,it would be ideal if you have persistence and experience principles and guidelines,most occasions its not generally the bounty managers flaw. Before you begin grumbling that bounty managers change bounty runs after bounty finished do you perused the bounty standards and guidelines? Numerous bounties have as of now says it all in their standards and guidelines that BM can change the rules anytime so bounty hunters should realize that changes can occur anytime aswell,the single direction to maintain a strategic distance from this is if there is no such runs on the bounty string. Who is to be blame??
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pinoy.bolanon
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August 23, 2019, 11:43:35 AM |
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Before anything, rules has been stated already on the first page of the bounty campaigns, i think everybody knows that and read that also, its just that we could not prevent some adjustments especially when the team or the developers itself may change the rules, and it could not be prevented because its somehow happening based on my experience, i think we must adjust since we are all bounty hunters and or bounty managers, we just have to be adoptive i think.
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janggernaut
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August 23, 2019, 11:47:15 AM |
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Back to rules, if there was a rules which BM can change the rules anytime they want, you can't do anything, even if they changing the rules after bounty ended. If there wasn't any rules but they changing it in the end of bounty, BM should be the one got blamed by BH.
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hongus
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August 23, 2019, 11:50:42 AM |
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This is a moot point. The point of view of lawyers is the point that the rule change is left to prevent them from being held accountable. Since written and fixed arrangements are valid. Let's say the project is deceiving hunters. Hunters can sue based on the work done. It is easy to prove legally. The task of the manager is to check the work. The task of the hunter to do the work. And the task of administering the project on time to pay for the work. I think it’s not the managers who are guilty, but the project team that sets the conditions and constantly change the terms of payments. I think when the community of hunters is able to sue and win the case.
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betty11
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August 23, 2019, 12:07:22 PM |
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It's always important to read rules and guidelines. Some bounty participants don't follow rules for weekly submission or posting instructions by BM, at the end, they tend to blame the BM for not awarding them stakes. For a better guide I weekly read bounty rules.
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jessyj48
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August 23, 2019, 12:33:51 PM |
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Rules and regulations is very important for every bounty hunters,its what will decide if you will promote the project or not,ive turned away from some bounty projects because of the rules of the bounty projects,some rules are really unfair for me and i always walk away from bounties that have rules that can still be adjust by bounty managers.
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dobolspeed3
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August 23, 2019, 12:46:04 PM |
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In every bounty campaign, there must be a general rule that must be read before participating in a bounty. Usually there is a "Bounty manager & the Project team can change the rules at any time".
If the rules are changed fair, everyone will understand that. What I'm still confused about is the allocation cut, does that include changes to the rules?
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suryapro
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August 23, 2019, 12:53:20 PM |
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Careful reading is important before come to paticipated a gift program. and most rules state that BM can change the rules at any time, we as participants cannot do anything. therefore joining a bounty telegram is important to know any changes that occur in bounty program.
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danherbias07
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August 23, 2019, 12:57:02 PM |
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Both. Bounty managers should also know the history of the project. But it doesnt mean they will know the future of it. So that is where the risk comes in from joining it. That is also why they are using stakes. If ever they lower the alloted number of tokens then it will still be safe.
Bounty hunters. Mostly now are just picking with eyes blind folded. It will justbe a waste of time and effort but they dont mind. So there is no one to blame.
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August 23, 2019, 01:03:20 PM |
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I don't think anyone is to blame because we don't really know, who is BM's face? Who is BH's face? We are in an anonymous world and there is absolutely no guarantee with your decision. the most important thing is that you have to believe in yourself that you think it's the right decision. honestly until now I did not trust anyone, I only believed in my decision. I want to share the story that before I make a decision, I always spend a lot of time studying crypto in a number of available sources, every day I always learn things that I don't know yet on the google site ... well, if someone has experienced an error it will teach you important experiences for the next day. The point is that before participating in any project, you must be very careful and look in detail at the project you want to participate in.
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Mrcharles
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August 23, 2019, 01:15:44 PM |
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Due to the fact that the bounty manager could change the rules while the bounty is ongoing and its possible the bounty hunters doesn't know when the rules are changed we can say that they are both at fault. I believe the bounty hunters should be more diligent in dispensation of the task and try to go through the bounty rules periodically, so as to know when adjustments are being made and readjust their progress.
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August 23, 2019, 01:23:39 PM |
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Bounty hunters still think that its hard to read and they care less about guidelines and go for the gorgeous bounty allotment,it would be ideal if you have persistence and experience principles and guidelines,most occasions its not generally the bounty managers flaw. Before you begin grumbling that bounty managers change bounty runs after bounty finished do you perused the bounty standards and guidelines? Numerous bounties have as of now says it all in their standards and guidelines that BM can change the rules anytime so bounty hunters should realize that changes can occur anytime aswell,the single direction to maintain a strategic distance from this is if there is no such runs on the bounty string. Who is to be blame?? We bounty hunters should get used to it, bounty managers can change the rules on many factors, like market condition, the outcome of the promotion and development of the project, I have never seen a bounty campaign that does not stipulate this on all their bounty campaign, if you do not agree better leave the campaign.
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August 23, 2019, 01:29:30 PM |
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Everyone has a different opinion on this issue. I think we don't have to complain about the rules that often have changed. Better we must remain respectful of the Bounty manager's decision. And more importantly, I think that the manager can work well and they can produce a successful project.
Before you join the project it is better to understand the rules they make. And for now, it is very natural when the manager changes the rules when the project is finished.
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August 23, 2019, 01:37:48 PM |
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Everyone has a different opinion on this issue. I think we don't have to complain about the rules that often have changed. Better we must remain respectful of the Bounty manager's decision. And more importantly, I think that the manager can work well and they can produce a successful project.
Before you join the project it is better to understand the rules they make. And for now, it is very natural when the manager changes the rules when the project is finished.
I agree with you, in most cases bounty managers leaves a caveat that the bounty rules could be adjusted or changed anytime. This caveat exonerates them from any future obligation which may arise from the adjustments made on the bounty. Its best for bounty hunters to be more informed on the bounty rules by frequently visiting the thread.
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Doranile432
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August 23, 2019, 02:02:01 PM |
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Either rules get changed before or after bounty starts shouldnt be what bounty hunters should be complaining about,it doesnt matter to me as far as i get paid,what should be most important is getting paid,rules are meant to be broken so adjusting bounty rules is not a big deal
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August 23, 2019, 02:04:35 PM |
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Everyone has a different opinion on this issue. I think we don't have to complain about the rules that often have changed. Better we must remain respectful of the Bounty manager's decision. And more importantly, I think that the manager can work well and they can produce a successful project.
Before you join the project it is better to understand the rules they make. And for now, it is very natural when the manager changes the rules when the project is finished.
I agree with you, in most cases bounty managers leaves a caveat that the bounty rules could be adjusted or changed anytime. This caveat exonerates them from any future obligation which may arise from the adjustments made on the bounty. Its best for bounty hunters to be more informed on the bounty rules by frequently visiting the thread. We are also giving consideration that BM isn't the full control of the campaign, he is still under the control of the developers and the team behind the project. What they tried to impose and even it will change the rules as first stated, it can still be changed. Though sometimes isn't fair to everyone, but have to respect them, we have an option either to keep it or leave. So as Bounty Hunter, we should be careful in participating campaign and not be confident enough to every project we've been a part off cause we can't tell that it will succeed or not.
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August 23, 2019, 02:11:42 PM |
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Are you talking about bounty managers of some ICO token or the other, if you are, then I fully understand. Because all the BTC campaign managers I've come across do a good job and are true to their words.
Both ICO bounty managers and hunters(in most circumstances)are to blame, the managers make rules and reserve the rights to change them anytime, and that's wrong, there should be a fixed amount to be paid to hunters that should be unalterable. Because they could see the direction(not so good)the project is heading and reduce the amount of tokens they ought to distribute, forgetting the hunters kept their own part of the deal by completing their posts.
Also the managers should take their time to select good posters for their project to promote it in the right way. Also the hunters should abstain from spamming low quality post, just to make sure they meet maximum payout. If everyone would do their job fine, then there would be no issues at all, and the forum would also benefit with less level of spam.
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August 23, 2019, 02:29:55 PM |
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Who is to be blame
Call me a biased asshole, I dont care but I always blame the bounty hunters. They are the reason why bounties are surviving. We see some bottom feeder third world country person making multiple account to abuse the bounties and then the manager has to change some fine tuned rules to stop them. All this shitshow needs to stop and this forum needs to boycott any sort of bounty programs. Both the bounty hunters and the managers need to be screened rigorously by the ICO team - which is rarely the case and the result is this forum getting spammed and social media filled with accounts which spam. If there were no bounty hunters there would be no bounty campaigns. This is what needs to be done.
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August 23, 2019, 02:36:11 PM |
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Most of the time its bounty managers fault,i can made mention bounty managers that never go back on their words,once they make rules for a particular bounty they will never change the rules,bounty managers like bubbalex and Arteezy always stand on their words,many bounty managers change rules to cheat bounty participants most times
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August 23, 2019, 03:35:25 PM |
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Bounty hunters still think that its hard to read and they care less about guidelines and go for the gorgeous bounty allotment,it would be ideal if you have persistence and experience principles and guidelines,most occasions its not generally the bounty managers flaw. Before you begin grumbling that bounty managers change bounty runs after bounty finished do you perused the bounty standards and guidelines? Numerous bounties have as of now says it all in their standards and guidelines that BM can change the rules anytime so bounty hunters should realize that changes can occur anytime aswell,the single direction to maintain a strategic distance from this is if there is no such runs on the bounty string. Who is to be blame?? It was on the rules before BH joined. " Rules may change " and BH need to follow it. Since BH joined , BH understood the rules that's why BH joined, Bounty Managers have been dealing a lot of things, checking, accepting participants, checking shady participants, alt accounts, Checking reports and yet Bounty Hunters have the guts to complain about changing of rules? No one forced them to join the campaign at the first place. I tried to be a Bounty Manager before and it will take a lot of time , talking to clients and meeting the desired outcome on what clients wanted, later on, I declined. Most of the time its bounty managers fault,i can made mention bounty managers that never go back on their words,once they make rules for a particular bounty they will never change the rules,bounty managers like bubbalex and Arteezy always stand on their words,many bounty managers change rules to cheat bounty participants most times
So changing rules= cheat bounty participants? this is ain't it. As far as i know, Changing rules have been the best weapon of Bounty Managers to manage participants, some of them are stup/i/d , not reading the rules, the formatting of reports etc. Let's accept the fact that some of the participants are shady and st/u/p/id.
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