[TROLL-UKKAKE] People who argue with trolls on technical matters are suspicious

[Carlton Banks]

didn't anti-cen and RNC appear between the Zin Zang quitting/ban and the start of Khao77?


@Khak77 can you remember the details?

[nutildah]

I'm curious about your thought that aliashraf is Anonymint, though.  I didn't get that impression, although I can see some similarities.

• similarities in style/tone/presentation
• similraties in the areas of knowledge used
• appeared very shortly after Anonymint was perma-banned

not definitive, but for all intents and purposes, Aliashraf plays the role of Anonymint's reincarnation whether it really is him evading his ban or not.

He also came to anonymint's defense on the regular:

Although @anunymint is somewhat harsh and used a bitter language, I've to acknowledge his contribution as being helpful.

Banning users is cruelty but removing their posts? It is slutter.

@anunymint, Shelby is a polemic, a warrior. He goes beyond polemics by too much exaggerations and insistings on lost fronts but it is not his fault, it is ours and our prominent figures in bitcoin who have betrayed the cause, the resistance axiom, who have compromised bitcoin.

A warrior is out of options in this situation, he has to over magnify the truth, to make it distinguished from the lies and to bring it out from the shades and shadows.

God forgive me, but this Greg dude is really a troll. I mean it. He seriously trolls in this forum and everywhere else.
Any chance to have him beheaded instead of Shelby?  

[Carlton Banks]

for all intents and purposes, Aliashraf plays the role of Anonymint's reincarnation whether it really is him evading his ban or not.

He also came to anonymint's defense on the regular

nice work, added to original list

[Wind_FURY]

Carlton, https://whowhatwhy.org/2016/01/27/disinformation-part-1-how-trolls-control-an-internet-forum/

Go to "forum sliding" and "inoculating the public against the truth".

I believe everyone who knows more than me about Bitcoin should join in, and spread as much correct information as possible in the forum.

you've misunderstood the game


I once discovered that a troll (who you regularly engage) was posting for over 20 hours straight. That means a minimum of 2 people both have the login for that account, and must coordinate their responses in order that they do not contradict themselves when speaking as the single character they pretend to be


look at it another way

if you have good knowledge of Bitcoin, what is the most effective use of it?

Anonymint and Zin-Zang?

you've likely spoken to them both, but they frequently register new usernames to troll BCT with

(khao77 is very likely Zin-Zang, aliashraf is very likely Anonymint)

I actually thought they were Bitcoin Cash hodlers from /r/btc. Haha. Or maybe they are big blockers?

I'll "try my best" to ignore them, although I will miss it. Annoying them has been so much fun.

[Carlton Banks]

• Khak77 _never_ posts in this Meta sub board
• despite that, Khao77 found this thread very quickly

interesting, eh?

[nutildah]

As far as Zang Zin,
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096055.msg49186218#msg49186218

January 12, 2019, 03:28:19 AM
Considering how badly the forums mods are censoring my posts.

This is my last post in this shithole.

What a coincidence: your first post was on the day of his last.

Perhaps you wanted to start over with a fresh reputation; now that this one is starting to sink, you should probably consider starting over again.

[Carlton Banks]

@nutildah (or anyone else)


were there ever any instances of Aliashraf defending/tag-teaming with other suspected Anonymint alts (i.e. dinofelis/TPTB_need_war/trainscarwreck etc)

[nutildah]

Actually , Zang Zin very Last post was on Feb 2th, so that blows your theory.
Might want to read the post history a little better next time.

Perhaps, but I don't that's necessary here. Your first post was 32 minutes after his self-declared "last post." Then he took a break until Feb 2nd, during which time you wrote 42 posts. Then you started posting again as Khaos77 on Feb 3rd.

Some of your other similarities (outside of subject matter) include:

-excessive use of emojis, especially when finishing a post
-you both structure your paragraphs in an odd format that doesn't utilize the full width of the text field
-both consistently have improper use of punctuation marks, or lack of punctuation where appropriate
-English is a second (or third) language

The final kicker is you are both fanatics of a virtually unknown microcap coin called ZEIT.

The future is bright wit Zeit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

 

Since i can't get my wallet synced even after downloading the bootstrap, seeing the low difficulty and that all new blocks are created by only 4 addresses i would say Zeit has forked.

ZEIT has not forked, there are some asshats intentionally causing congestion that is blocking many from syncing.
Block explorer is synced and correct.
All Exchanges are matching the block explorer.

There has been an exodus of stakers, Kiklo has even put a call out for more people to stake, but it has gone unanswered.

The community is faltering and failing zeitcoin.

ZEIT is currently ranked #1415 on CMC. What are the odds that you're not the same person? I'd say extremely slim.

@nutildah (or anyone else)


were there ever any instances of Aliashraf defending/tag-teaming with other suspected Anonymint alts (i.e. dinofelis/TPTB_need_war/trainscarwreck etc)

I'll give it a look over.

[nutildah]

So do you think CB is also Gmax, or is your insights only limited to me?  

Of course not. CB is British whereas Gmax is American. Adding your sunglasses emoji to the end of your comment reminds me of this post you once wrote in the Bcash thread:

1. I like women.
2. I kick your ass for that comment in the real world.


 

FYI2:
For Centuries Speculation was the earth was the center of the universe,
Factually it was the Sun, but people believe what they want.

Factually there is no center of the universe.

FYI3:
Since you're talking with me, I wonder if CB thinks you're "astro-turfing" .  
@nutildah, let's really waste your time, go thru and catalog the posting time of me and zang zin,& everyone else you suspect me of being,  
and then compare the posting times to see if we are on the same schedule.
Surely the same person would be posting at the exact same times, due to work schedules and such, no matter their alias.
I almost can't wait to find out how many people I actually am.  

No need for all that as I'm 99% certain you are the same people.

- invade same subject threads with same trolling tactics
- same writing style
- same usage of emojis
- both way into extremely obscure shitcoin

Frankly you're too boring to care any more about.

[franky1]

So, would you like to explain your own personal answers to this question?

I'm a "vigilance over complacency" kind of guy and can't see how you win a debate by only letting the opponent speak, which they will clearly continue doing.  Who knows?  Maybe they do genuinely believe what they're saying.  It's really difficult to tell.  But I'm going to err on the side of caution and presume it's malicious (as I can understand you are doing in this topic).  It looks to me like an ongoing propaganda campaign by determined disinformation agents.  I just don't see how ignoring the problem and allowing the less experienced forum denizens to be mislead helps anything.  False narratives need to be challenged.

Doomad you find it 'difficult to tell' you PRESUME its malicious and it looks to you to be propaganda.. but your attitude and presumptions just show you have not done the research to actually know. instead you just jump on the defense wagon of devs' without checking what they got up to.

if you really want to rebutt something, include some code, stats, data. if al you can quote is yourself quoting yourself quoting yourself saying "wrong because idiot" it makes you look more of the idiot than the person your accusing.

so please take the advice and do some research

[worldofcoins]

@DooMAD


don't you think that when your account is 99% arguing with trolls, it makes you look like a fake?

i.e. you're only here to keep the trolling alive, not to stop it?

You cannot change stop someone from doing something unless they wanna stop. Most of it's not necessary all of them are trollers.
Some of them could be legit people trying to figure out something they're unaware of.