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August 30, 2019, 09:54:23 AM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn
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Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest

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Causes of deforestation

Deforestation of the Amazon rainforest can be attributed to many different factors at local, national, and international levels. The rainforest is seen as a resource for cattle pasture, valuable hardwoods, housing space, farming space (especially for soybeans), road works (such as highways and smaller roads), medicines and human gain. Trees are usually cut down illegally.

A 2004 World Bank paper and a 2009 Greenpeace report found that the cattle sector in the Brazilian Amazon, supported by the international beef and leather trades, was responsible for about 80% of all deforestation in the region,[23][2] or about 14% of the world's total annual deforestation, making it the largest single driver of deforestation in the world.[3] According to a 2006 report by the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, 70% of formerly forested land in the Amazon, and 91% of land deforested since 1970, is used for livestock pasture.[4][24]

Additional deforestation in the Amazon has resulted from farmers clearing land for small-scale subsistence agriculture[6] or for mechanized cropland. Scientists using NASA satellite data found in 2006 that clearing for mechanized cropland had become a significant force in Brazilian Amazon deforestation. This change in land use may alter the region's climate. Researchers found that in 2004, a peak year of deforestation, more than 20 percent of the Mato Grosso state's forests were converted to cropland.[7] In 2005, soybean prices fell by more than 25 percent and some areas of Mato Grosso showed a decrease in large deforestation events, suggesting that the rise and fall of prices for other crops, beef and timber may also have a significant impact on future land use in the region.[7]

Until 2006, a major driver of forest loss in the Amazon was the cultivation of soy, mainly for export and production of biodiesel and animal feed;[25] as soybean prices have risen, soy farmers pushed northwards into forested areas of the Amazon.[26] However, a private sector agreement referred to as the Soy Moratorium has helped drastically reduce the deforestation linked to soy production in the region. In 2006, a number of major commodity trading companies such as Cargill agreed to not purchase soybeans produced in the Brazilian Amazon in recently deforested areas. Before the moratorium, 30 percent of soy field expansion had occurred through deforestation, contributing to record deforestation rates. After eight years of the moratorium, a 2015 study found that although soy production area had expanded another 1.3 million hectares, only about 1 percent of the new soy expansion had come at the expense of forest. In response to the moratorium, farmers were choosing to plant on already cleared land.[26] The needs of soy farmers have been used to validate some controversial transportation projects that have developed in the Amazon.[11] The first two highways, the Belém-Brasília (1958) and the Cuiaba-Porto Velho (1968), were the only federal highways in the Legal Amazon to be paved and passable year-round before the late 1990s. These two highways are said to be "at the heart of the 'arc of deforestation'", which at present is the focal point area of deforestation in the Brazilian Amazon. The Belém-Brasília highway attracted nearly two million settlers in the first twenty years. The success of the Belém-Brasília highway in opening up the forest was reenacted as paved roads continued to be developed, unleashing the irrepressible spread of settlement. The completion of the roads was followed by a wave of resettlement; these settlers had a significant effect on the forest as well.[27]

Research conducted by Leydimere Oliveira, et al. has shown that the more rainforest is logged in the Amazon, the less precipitation reaches the area and so the lower the yield per hectare becomes. Thus for Brazil as a whole, there is no economic gain to be made by logging and selling trees and using the logged land for pastoral purposes.[28]

A September 2016 Amazon Watch report concludes that imports of crude oil by the US are driving rainforest destruction in the Amazon and releasing significant greenhouse gases.[29][30]

The European Union–Mercosur Free Trade Agreement, which would form one of the world's largest free trade areas, has been denounced by environmental activists and indigenous rights campaigners.[31][32] The fear is that the deal could lead to more deforestation of the Amazon rainforest as it expands market access to Brazilian beef.[33]
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August 30, 2019, 03:59:54 PM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

I read some articles recently that the whole thing was portrayed per-dramatically and that this year's fires do not deviate significantly from the perennial average (10 years) and that Amazonia produces not 20 but only 6 percent of the earth's oxygen etc.
Of course, it's still a disaster, but not the cataclysm as some try to prove without concrete or true facts.
I don't think that whole Amazon may disappear but it will happen, we will still survive, don't worry Smiley
The temperature will probably increase and the sea level will increase, but it will happen anyway and is happening right now.

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August 31, 2019, 07:32:19 AM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

The answer is simple.
As the Amazon forrest is the biggest "Lung" of our planet, if it gets burnt then our planet is going to be inhabitable. There will be less oxygen produced and cosidering the fact that the global population is rising this will have a disastrous impact.
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August 31, 2019, 08:42:39 AM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

The answer is simple.
As the Amazon forrest is the biggest "Lung" of our planet, if it gets burnt then our planet is going to be inhabitable. There will be less oxygen produced and cosidering the fact that the global population is rising this will have a disastrous impact.

Wrong, it's true that amazon gives part of the % of world's oxygen but it is far from being the biggest producer.
Plankton is the biggest producer of oxygen. plankton produce an estimated of 80% of world's oxygen. it is just saddening that
a Forrest home of thousand of species is burning.

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August 31, 2019, 11:10:03 AM
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But we have to save Amazon forest. 20 % means providing oxygen to 1.5 billion population and of earth which is a huge number.
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August 31, 2019, 01:52:36 PM
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But we have to save Amazon forest. 20 % means providing oxygen to 1.5 billion population and of earth which is a huge number.


I find this video quite informative you should watch it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzK3iWAFgI

I'am not saying we should just ignore amazon forest but we need to prevent misinformation to make unnecessary panic.

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August 31, 2019, 02:09:17 PM
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But we have to save Amazon forest. 20 % means providing oxygen to 1.5 billion population and of earth which is a huge number.


I find this video quite informative you should watch it : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLzK3iWAFgI

I'am not saying we should just ignore amazon forest but we need to prevent misinformation to make unnecessary panic.
This might be true but deforestation causes other things like increases the rate of global warning so we should stop cutting or burning the trees though.
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September 01, 2019, 07:02:38 PM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

I read some articles recently that the whole thing was portrayed per-dramatically and that this year's fires do not deviate significantly from the perennial average (10 years) and that Amazonia produces not 20 but only 6 percent of the earth's oxygen etc.
Of course, it's still a disaster, but not the cataclysm as some try to prove without concrete or true facts.
I don't think that whole Amazon may disappear but it will happen, we will still survive, don't worry Smiley
The temperature will probably increase and the sea level will increase, but it will happen anyway and is happening right now.

I don't know bout the oxygen levels but it's definitely a disaster for biodiversity. There could be species that would die before being discovered.

And I'm not talking about this purely from a conservation viewpoint. We could learn a lot from some species that might be discovered, like medicines etc.
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Oxygen running out is not an issue.  We'd be post-cataclysm if that ever became an issue.  Plankton/algae produce most of the oxygen and can adapt relatively quickly to the changes in acidity due to runaway CO2. 

We will likely end up with more oxygen in the atmosphere but massive death in the ocean due to acidification. Those ecosystem collapses will put a strain on food supply which will create a positive feedback where there is higher demand for meat and more deforestation.  None of this has to mean the end of the world but its likely that people won't figure out how to work together to allocate alternative food sources and there will be a breakdown of social order and spread of wars/unrest/mass migration. 

10 million people have been displaced recently and has created massive turmoil in Europe, Asia, and the Americas but with climate change, we're going to be talking about 500 million displaced. Again, its really bad and certainly a mass extinction event unlike the planet has seen in 65million years but not something that should mean the literal end of the world.  In the current state of greed and antipathy for those in need, its likely going to end in massive breakdown of order.
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September 02, 2019, 01:02:12 PM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

I read some articles recently that the whole thing was portrayed per-dramatically and that this year's fires do not deviate significantly from the perennial average (10 years) and that Amazonia produces not 20 but only 6 percent of the earth's oxygen etc.
Of course, it's still a disaster, but not the cataclysm as some try to prove without concrete or true facts.
I don't think that whole Amazon may disappear but it will happen, we will still survive, don't worry Smiley
The temperature will probably increase and the sea level will increase, but it will happen anyway and is happening right now.

I don't know bout the oxygen levels but it's definitely a disaster for biodiversity. There could be species that would die before being discovered.

And I'm not talking about this purely from a conservation viewpoint. We could learn a lot from some species that might be discovered, like medicines etc.

But most people don't care if any of those rare species go extinct because it has virtually no effect on our lives.  Capitalism isn't about conserving the environment, it is about extracting as much as you can to make big profits.
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September 02, 2019, 01:09:48 PM
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if amazon burns down it's like a big disaster for the earth and its other living things. 20% of the oxygen on earth today comes from Amazon forests. The burning of amazon at this time can not be overcome as a whole, this really makes a concern. I hope this will be resolved quickly.
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September 02, 2019, 05:08:40 PM
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if amazon burns down it's like a big disaster for the earth and its other living things. 20% of the oxygen on earth today comes from Amazon forests. The burning of amazon at this time can not be overcome as a whole, this really makes a concern. I hope this will be resolved quickly.

And just to add on that, the fact that Amazon is home for a lot of species.
It is a place for animals where they can find food, water and a place to populate their species. If Amazon is destroyed then all those animals will lose their home and probably they are going to die from hunger.
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if amazon burns down it's like a big disaster for the earth and its other living things. 20% of the oxygen on earth today comes from Amazon forests. The burning of amazon at this time can not be overcome as a whole, this really makes a concern. I hope this will be resolved quickly.

And just to add on that, the fact that Amazon is home for a lot of species.
It is a place for animals where they can find food, water and a place to populate their species. If Amazon is destroyed then all those animals will lose their home and probably they are going to die from hunger.

again, the news about amazon producing 20% of world's oxygen is highly exaggerated and the oxygen amazon forest produce barely leaves amazon forest since
the oxygen mostly used up by the native species living there. the sad part I see is that thousand of species is dying because amazon forest is burning out and also the
misinformation people spread creating unnecessary panic to everyone.

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September 03, 2019, 07:13:25 AM
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The recent burning of the Amazon might cause a lot of damage to the Amazon, because that is where 20%of the world oxygen is coming from and farming are burning  trees because of farming and the government are not looking into it to prevent it from burning g but I believe with the next step taken by the Brazilian president,is will be resolved soon
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The recent burning of the Amazon might cause a lot of damage to the Amazon, because that is where 20%of the world oxygen is coming from and farming are burning  trees because of farming and the government are not looking into it to prevent it from burning g but I believe with the next step taken by the Brazilian president,is will be resolved soon
Read before posting,already peole talking that 20% is just a fake number and killing amazon won't affect the humans.
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Yeah, there is lot of effect on our nature. Birds and animal. Trees our essential for our society as well as nature and animals. So there is need to work on jungle fire..
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The president of France try to help the Brazilian president,but the Brazilian president sow it as a kind political scheme to put him to sham ,calling the French president,a colonialists,but I believe he should take the help



Farmers in Brazil and other countries withing the Amazon should stop burning land before planting,also it destroy the nutrients in the soil



I believe charity organization should step in in funding how to keep the Amazon safe from disaster
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September 04, 2019, 05:46:59 PM
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What will happen if whole amazon forest get burn

I read some articles recently that the whole thing was portrayed per-dramatically and that this year's fires do not deviate significantly from the perennial average (10 years) and that Amazonia produces not 20 but only 6 percent of the earth's oxygen etc.
Of course, it's still a disaster, but not the cataclysm as some try to prove without concrete or true facts.
I don't think that whole Amazon may disappear but it will happen, we will still survive, don't worry Smiley
The temperature will probably increase and the sea level will increase, but it will happen anyway and is happening right now.

I don't know bout the oxygen levels but it's definitely a disaster for biodiversity. There could be species that would die before being discovered.

And I'm not talking about this purely from a conservation viewpoint. We could learn a lot from some species that might be discovered, like medicines etc.

But most people don't care if any of those rare species go extinct because it has virtually no effect on our lives.  Capitalism isn't about conserving the environment, it is about extracting as much as you can to make big profits.

More like human greed and how well a government can implement laws. People will want more and given the chance will act on it. "Conservation" rarely cross the average person's mind unless they've been made to understand the value of the environment from a very young age or they see an immediate benefit to them (like fishermen turned tourist guides that used to kill and eat whale sharks).

Which is why I believe this started from farmers clearing more land by doing slash-and-burn. A similar fire has happened in Sabah years ago with the resulting smog getting into neighboring countries.
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September 06, 2019, 10:29:32 PM
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The Amazon fires have been dying down for a long time.


Data on Amazon Rainforest Fires Tell a Much Different Story Than Social Media



"Our House Is on Fire"

It is hard to miss the news reports on the fire in the Amazon rainforest in Brazil. Millions of people are calling for immediate action on social media and, with a limited amount of prior knowledge, there is little surprise that much of what is being reported is inaccurate.

A wide array of celebrities have drawn attention to the problem, mostly through tweets, ranging from superstar sportspeople to famous actors. When asked what Madonna, Christiano Ronaldo, Leonardo DiCaprio, and Emmanuel Macron have in common, you're probably expecting a funny joke. In fact, all of these people have shared pictures about the fires online that were proven to be much older. In the case of the French president, the photograph he posted was taken by a photographer who died in 2003, making it at least 16 years old.


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