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August 31, 2019, 07:33:41 PM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).
For PH government they shouldnt really grant such request they dont just like for Chinese money to go out on their vicinity.China been restricting gambling and its citizens do love to play by means on online gambling and those who operate on PH does give the gateway.The only mistake i do see on this is that they should be at least having the license or authorization and ph gov can utilize these POGOs to get up some tax implementation for some additional.
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August 31, 2019, 07:53:21 PM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

China want's to microhandle its citizens while gambling is deep rooted in Chinese society. There are many Chinese going to bordering town to gamble and many to launder their money. Macau and Hong Kong has been more restrictive that's why they are moving further. Chinese are familiar to online crypto gambling and a large amount of gambler comes from China.
Well, I don't know if the President of the Philippines will follow the demand of China because this is not their territory anymore. Yes, maybe there are dozen of Chinese people who live in the Philippines but banning gambling just because of them perhaps, hell NO.
Indeed, the Philippines has a good tax on the gambling industry and it also helps to grow the economy. I think that will never happen, they will never dictate the press. Duterte. Well, OP, good to see if you have a [link] for reference. https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/08/30/1947660/china-cant-dictate-online-gambling-ban-philippines









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August 31, 2019, 08:08:44 PM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

China want's to microhandle its citizens while gambling is deep rooted in Chinese society. There are many Chinese going to bordering town to gamble and many to launder their money. Macau and Hong Kong has been more restrictive that's why they are moving further. Chinese are familiar to online crypto gambling and a large amount of gambler comes from China.
Well, I don't know if the President of the Philippines will follow the demand of China because this is not their territory anymore. Yes, maybe there are dozen of Chinese people who live in the Philippines but banning gambling just because of them perhaps, hell NO.
Indeed, the Philippines has a good tax on the gambling industry and it also helps to grow the economy. I think that will never happen, they will never dictate the press. Duterte. Well, OP, good to see if you have a [link] for reference. https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/08/30/1947660/china-cant-dictate-online-gambling-ban-philippines

Duterte has nothing to do with it, its the opposition in the government that tries to bann Chinese gambling operation and since they are picking just few of these established ones, the Chinese instead urges to bann all. This is politics in the Philippines, those who doesn't like Duterte wants to break the current relationship of Philippines and China. They all put in the mind of the Filipinos that Chinese are not good and tries to colonize us which of course isn't true.



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August 31, 2019, 08:13:22 PM
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I don't know how much influency China have on Philippines and it's difficult to trust in China government
Why don't give better jobs for people instead of try do obligate another country to do something?

This is the simple solution, if these people have good jobs, they won't seek in another places

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August 31, 2019, 09:07:09 PM
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I don't know how much influency China have on Philippines and it's difficult to trust in China government
Why don't give better jobs for people instead of try do obligate another country to do something?

This is the simple solution, if these people have good jobs, they won't seek in another places
The government of the Philippines should decide whether they have to accept the wish of the Chinese government to ban all of the gambling online. I just don't know yet if it is better to ban gambling online in the Philippines if it is giving a good trade in the economy they shouldn't risk of removing it unless there's a lot of Filipino people involve in the said complaints.

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August 31, 2019, 09:49:45 PM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

Does China really urge PH to ban online gambling? In what jurisdiction China has to urge PH to do such action? Maybe the best thing they should do is to urge their citizens to stop doing online gambling on foreign lands. I don't think China has the rights and jurisdiction to interfere on Philippine businesses (be it online or traditional).

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September 01, 2019, 12:30:35 AM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

Does China really urge PH to ban online gambling? In what jurisdiction China has to urge PH to do such action? Maybe the best thing they should do is to urge their citizens to stop doing online gambling on foreign lands. I don't think China has the rights and jurisdiction to interfere on Philippine businesses (be it online or traditional).
They go to the Philippines just because they think that their President won't have any control in there and they can continue their illegalities. However, they forgot and even mistakenly know about the Philippines President. The friendly approach of Pres. Duterte towards China gives him a chance to have awareness regarding these gambling activities which is run by Chinese people. If China's President would suggest declining their application, it sounds like Pres. Duterte will follow(IMO).
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September 01, 2019, 01:53:04 AM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

I think giving licenses for online gambling in the Philippines, should be stopped, there are so many chinese immigrants now in the Philippines, it's like a mass exodus, in the old times we only have chinatown in one place, now they are everywhere.

What I don't like about this chinese is they act like a bully, they think they are more deserving than the people in their area where they live, in fact, some of them do not have a license to work in the Philippines.

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September 01, 2019, 07:33:33 AM
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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.

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September 01, 2019, 07:41:52 AM
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Philippines is a small economy and it depends on more neighboring countries for the development. This can be of infrastructure, and various other forms of development. China will not force without any perfect plan, and this time of Philippines didn't take necessary precautions China will surely make some strategies to eliminate.

From a common man's view Philippines won't consider this a big issue, because even if Philippines ban all form of gambling activities still there'll be gambling through bookies and other sources.

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September 01, 2019, 09:16:00 AM
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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.
There's separate laws between this countries and yes I agree that they can't interfere whatever decisions PH will decide to this matter, they should be strict sending their people here and work with illegal gambling activities, though since this  two leaders have good bond there's also chances that it will be grant by the president if this issue  also will affect the nation.
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September 01, 2019, 09:27:12 AM
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Here's an actual news article on the subject for those interested in learning more:

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/08/22/1945493/china-urges-philippines-ban-all-online-gambling

If the Philippines agree to that, will they stop bullying the country?

I don't think so. They roam the seas that they do not own, and now they want us to ban online gambling for them? If I will be the one deciding to this I will say no. Filipinos are not fund of online gambling so I don't think this is a problem in our country. That is their problem, not ours.
Hell no. This issue is nothing to do about harassment of China in the Philippines especially on the islands which have more controversy.

It doesn't have anything to do with Chinese harassment directly but it would be a bitch move if Philippines decided to ban all online gambling because the Chinese told them to. Obviously China has its own problems -- they should stop restricting the freedoms of their own people instead of asking other countries to restrict theirs.

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September 01, 2019, 09:31:19 AM
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I don't think that the Philippines will heed to China's call to ban all online gambling because one of the main source of income came from the casinos may it be online or offline and it's very critical to have that income as the Duterte administration needed that badly to fund the build build build program.

For now, maybe they can ban all Chinese from gambling on the Philippine soil, they can come here only as tourist.

And I don't think the Chinese government have the right to order or direct another sovereign country on what to do about its policies whatsoever. If the Chinese are to stop gambling in Philippine, then the embassy should be closed from absenting people from Philippine.
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September 01, 2019, 11:19:40 AM
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Philippines is a small economy and it depends on more neighboring countries for the development. This can be of infrastructure, and various other forms of development. China will not force without any perfect plan, and this time of Philippines didn't take necessary precautions China will surely make some strategies to eliminate.

From a common man's view Philippines won't consider this a big issue, because even if Philippines ban all form of gambling activities still there'll be gambling through bookies and other sources.
If someone violating the rules of their country then they will face legal actions so most of the activities will be stopped from gamblers side but like you said it will encourage more illegal form of gambling which can be never restricted by the government and also they will lose taxes by banning the gambling activities in their country.

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September 01, 2019, 11:28:03 AM
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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.
There's separate laws between this countries and yes I agree that they can't interfere whatever decisions PH will decide to this matter, they should be strict sending their people here and work with illegal gambling activities, though since this  two leaders have good bond there's also chances that it will be grant by the president if this issue  also will affect the nation.

Well, their sovereignty is different, even though  two leaders are very close, but if Philippine leader take  action requested by China, there will certainly be many protests from  people. Each country is free to regulate its own country without governing or governed by other countries, I think Philippines must remember that.

I think  two countries are better off making agreements that are specific to Chinese citizens who are in Philippines alone, if they violate, extradition legal policies of  two countries will apply and these offenders must be prepared to be deported to China. It is unfortunate indeed if  Philippine government also prohibits all forms of gambling only because of Chinese citizens while  population of gamblers in their country is very high.

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September 01, 2019, 11:57:33 AM
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I don't think that the Philippines will heed to China's call to ban all online gambling because one of the main source of income came from the casinos may it be online or offline and it's very critical to have that income as the Duterte administration needed that badly to fund the build build build program.

For now, maybe they can ban all Chinese from gambling on the Philippine soil, they can come here only as tourist.

And I don't think the Chinese government have the right to order or direct another sovereign country on what to do about its policies whatsoever. If the Chinese are to stop gambling in Philippine, then the embassy should be closed from absenting people from Philippine.
I don't think that the Chinese government is ordering the Philippines to stop gambling, that's just a friendly request/statement to stop crimes committed by Chinese in the Philippines because of gambling. I don't think someone could dictate the President of the Philippines on what to do here but for sure he will consult his advisers on this matter and he will decide whatever is good for the Filipino people and not for the welfare of the foreigners in the country. 
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September 01, 2019, 12:58:33 PM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

Why would you ban the gambling in Philippines ?  If Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippines with their own will, china should make rules for their own country to discourage such activities. You cannot ask another country to ban something, only because of your own citizens.
POGO offer online gambling services not only to china but worldwide. The Filipinos have small percentage of them working there and mostly are the other countries nationals including china.

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September 01, 2019, 01:12:14 PM
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).


Gambling is already ban in china. But around 250,000 Plus (Rough Estimate)  chinese nationals are doing gambling Jobs through this Pogo services. If they only ban the Chinese nationals, this problem can be solved. But I doubt Philippines have any intentions of doing this.
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September 01, 2019, 01:39:44 PM
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It is a wrong move in the Philippines president if they follow the dictation on the Chinese government to ban all form of gambling in the Philippines. If there are Chinese people who involved in that online business gambling industry they must restrict by their own people, not by the country of the Philippines. Nevertheless, I have doubt that this is not urging force but instead a piece of friendly advice. The country of the Philippines was friendly of their neighbor country but when it comes dictating I dunno if they will follow, sounds like slavery if they do.
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September 01, 2019, 02:07:24 PM
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It is a wrong move in the Philippines president if they follow the dictation on the Chinese government to ban all form of gambling in the Philippines. If there are Chinese people who involved in that online business gambling industry they must restrict by their own people, not by the country of the Philippines. Nevertheless, I have doubt that this is not urging force but instead a piece of friendly advice. The country of the Philippines was friendly of their neighbor country but when it comes dictating I dunno if they will follow, sounds like slavery if they do.

If they follow what china is dictating them, then for sure it will come under slavery. No independent county can follow other countries directions and rules. However Philippines government can see how it can mutually benefit both the countries. Also there are many POGO licensed being issued already, so if this ban is implemented  how will it impact the current market.

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