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September 08, 2019, 10:34:20 AM
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About ten years ago  last time I heard about Norton Security, and now I think, maybe install Linux?)

It's your decision, you can try both and decide what suits you best. There will always be those who will advise others to use Linux, and to forget on Windows and all the dangers that come with it. I personally used Linux few times, but most of time I am on Windows, which suits me perfectly because I think I have sufficient protection, and because I use common sense.

Regarding cryptocurrency, I move my coins to hardware wallet, because regardless of the level of protection and OS, something so security-sensitive should not be on PC.

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September 08, 2019, 12:14:39 PM
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About ten years ago  last time I heard about Norton Security, and now I think, maybe install Linux?)

It's your decision, you can try both and decide what suits you best. There will always be those who will advise others to use Linux, and to forget on Windows and all the dangers that come with it. I personally used Linux few times, but most of time I am on Windows, which suits me perfectly because I think I have sufficient protection, and because I use common sense.

Regarding cryptocurrency, I move my coins to hardware wallet, because regardless of the level of protection and OS, something so security-sensitive should not be on PC.
I will try Norton antivirus but maybe you are right , everybody needs to buy a hard wallet .

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September 08, 2019, 12:19:42 PM
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You will need AV only if you are installing softs from strange place and dont check address bar on important sites
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September 08, 2019, 05:10:22 PM
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Kaspersky is much more better and  I love this one. I have been using that one as well.
I think most of these antiviruses are just deceiving us and claiming they are catching viruses for us meanwhile they are not, if you use Kaspersky today and it tells you that your system is free of virus, uninstall it and install avast, you will see that avast will detect a virus for you.  

The only one that I have seen that has been quite very effective for me and not even as expensive as all these other ones that I mentioned is total 360, I think this one was specifically designed for those string and stubborn virus that can steal our information from us and probably use it to steal our money if the information can lead to money theft. If I am therefore to recommend any antivirus to anyone, I think it would be total 360, you guys can try that one out and see its effectiveness.

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September 08, 2019, 06:18:19 PM
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Kaspersky is much more better and  I love this one. I have been using that one as well.
I think most of these antiviruses are just deceiving us and claiming they are catching viruses for us meanwhile they are not, if you use Kaspersky today and it tells you that your system is free of virus, uninstall it and install avast, you will see that avast will detect a virus for you.  

The only one that I have seen that has been quite very effective for me and not even as expensive as all these other ones that I mentioned is total 360, I think this one was specifically designed for those string and stubborn virus that can steal our information from us and probably use it to steal our money if the information can lead to money theft. If I am therefore to recommend any antivirus to anyone, I think it would be total 360, you guys can try that one out and see its effectiveness.
I never use the total 360 antiviruses before but I don't know where you get the information you said about Kaspersky antivirus because I used on my phone and I never had issues. Besides, it detected harmful app which somehow auto-install themselves on phone and told me to remove it.
In addition, I could remember that Kaspersky was mentioned as the best antivirus last year.

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September 09, 2019, 09:33:10 AM
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About ten years ago  last time I heard about Norton Security, and now I think, maybe install Linux?)

It's your decision, you can try both and decide what suits you best. There will always be those who will advise others to use Linux, and to forget on Windows and all the dangers that come with it. I personally used Linux few times, but most of time I am on Windows, which suits me perfectly because I think I have sufficient protection, and because I use common sense.

Regarding cryptocurrency, I move my coins to hardware wallet, because regardless of the level of protection and OS, something so security-sensitive should not be on PC.
I will try Norton antivirus but maybe you are right , everybody needs to buy a hard wallet .
My problem is that I am not doing anything, all tasks are closed, and my CPU is always 100% busy.

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September 09, 2019, 09:50:51 AM
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My problem is that I am not doing anything, all tasks are closed, and my CPU is always 100% busy.

If you don't use any protection and Windows OS you probably have some malicious program which causes such processor load. There are two ways to solve the problem, first is to save all your data and format hard disk / install new OS., And second is to try to remove the threat with some antivirus / antimalware. I already gave you a suggestion, you can try both programs for free :

- https://security.symantec.com/
- https://www.malwarebytes.com/

You will get better results if you scan in safe mode, so after you download those programs update their database with latest definitions, and go to safe mode (check how to do that for your OS).

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My problem is that I am not doing anything, all tasks are closed, and my CPU is always 100% busy.

If you don't use any protection and Windows OS you probably have some malicious program which causes such processor load. There are two ways to solve the problem, first is to save all your data and format hard disk / install new OS., And second is to try to remove the threat with some antivirus / antimalware. I already gave you a suggestion, you can try both programs for free :

- https://security.symantec.com/
- https://www.malwarebytes.com/

You will get better results if you scan in safe mode, so after you download those programs update their database with latest definitions, and go to safe mode (check how to do that for your OS).
I have Kaspersky Anti-Virus installed, but it seems to me that it does not see all the problems. If I will use these programs that you recommended, am I  need to format the disk?  I'm too lazy to reinstall the OS.

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September 11, 2019, 09:30:57 AM
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I have Kaspersky Anti-Virus installed, but it seems to me that it does not see all the problems.

No AV will ever find all problems.
In fact they only find a very small subset of malware.



If I will use these programs that you recommended, am I  need to format the disk? 

No.



I'm too lazy to reinstall the OS.

So.. you are too lazy to be sure that your computer is clean ?
Then you'll live with the fact that your PC might be compromised.

Even malware-removing tools won't guarantee you that all malware will be removed.

You have to choose between convenience and security.

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I have Kaspersky Anti-Virus installed, but it seems to me that it does not see all the problems. If I will use these programs that you recommended, am I  need to format the disk?  I'm too lazy to reinstall the OS.

You do not need to format disk at this point, first you can try to clean your device with software which I recommend to you. It is important to remove Kaspersky before you install Norton Security, two AV will only make problems. After you install those programs first update them with latest definitions, and then make full scan of your device with each of them (one at the time).

After scan/s your will probably need to restart device, and then you will see do you still have problem with overloaded CPU. It would be better to make scans in safe mode, but it is up to you.

Formating disk is maybe best solution, and then installing of security software. I think the worst option is to do nothing, or postpone this task as you doing it now.

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September 11, 2019, 11:34:53 AM
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I'm too lazy to reinstall the OS.

So.. you are too lazy to be sure that your computer is clean ?
Then you'll live with the fact that your PC might be compromised.

Even malware-removing tools won't guarantee you that all malware will be removed.

You have to choose between convenience and security.

Not a surprise to be honest. If we look at how little time people devote to securely storing their coins offline, then similarly, they will not bother to care about other aspects of security.

I would say that a very large percentage of the people who leave their coins on an exchange, do that because they are too lazy to withdraw them. Prior to that they would have to search for a proper client, download the client, write down a seed phrase, and then store the piece of paper somewhere. To us it seems completely illogical, but this is how people are unfortunately.

People who choose for convenience thus far have always paid a hefty price for it. Losing coins is probably the only way for people to learn.
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I have Kaspersky Anti-Virus installed, but it seems to me that it does not see all the problems. If I will use these programs that you recommended, am I  need to format the disk?  I'm too lazy to reinstall the OS.

You do not need to format disk at this point, first you can try to clean your device with software which I recommend to you. It is important to remove Kaspersky before you install Norton Security, two AV will only make problems. After you install those programs first update them with latest definitions, and then make full scan of your device with each of them (one at the time).

After scan/s your will probably need to restart device, and then you will see do you still have problem with overloaded CPU. It would be better to make scans in safe mode, but it is up to you.

Formating disk is maybe best solution, and then installing of security software. I think the worst option is to do nothing, or postpone this task as you doing it now.
Well, you convinced me, I will reinstall the operating system to the new one. But I will be forced to transfer all my personal data to an external hdd. Will the virus be transferred to external hdd along with the files?

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You do not need to format disk at this point, first you can try to clean your device with software which I recommend to you. It is important to remove Kaspersky before you install Norton Security, two AV will only make problems. After you install those programs first update them with latest definitions, and then make full scan of your device with each of them (one at the time).

After scan/s your will probably need to restart device, and then you will see do you still have problem with overloaded CPU. It would be better to make scans in safe mode, but it is up to you.

Formating disk is maybe best solution, and then installing of security software. I think the worst option is to do nothing, or postpone this task as you doing it now.
Well, you convinced me, I will reinstall the operating system to the new one. But I will be forced to transfer all my personal data to an external hdd. Will the virus be transferred to external hdd along with the files?

If you use Windows, probably. If you are smart and switch to Linux, boot from Linux to do your backup and then install Linux, its probably the end of the virus even if you do accidentally copy it with the backup. Or you could use clamav afterwards to remove it from the safety of Linux.

You are never going to get rid of malware with Windows, no amount of slow OS making software or "common" sense can protect you enough. In fact, you can spend hours and hours fixing it everything, only to have your system infected minutes after you finish, or have a fool friend bring it with his usb stick...

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September 12, 2019, 08:03:32 AM
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But I will be forced to transfer all my personal data to an external hdd. Will the virus be transferred to external hdd along with the files?

Not as long as you only move personal data (documents, pictures, music, etc.. ).
I hope you don't see executable files as personal data. As long as you don't, you are most probably fine.

Just don't copy your whole hard drive over. And try to not copy any software over (which always is a mess with windows anyway).

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I have a feeling that some antiviruses have bugs built in to track and save your wallet passwords
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September 12, 2019, 12:39:51 PM
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To help prevent things that we don't want. of course other than we are careful and do not make fundamental mistakes so that the computer can be hacked. it is very recommended to keep using AV because AV needs are still very important. we still need protection assistance with facilities that are already available at AV.

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it is very recommended to keep using AV

no it isn't

it's recommended to use good software that's not so broken that it even needs extra software for security

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September 12, 2019, 04:45:15 PM
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I disagree.

Several user already have been warned from electrum phishing sites (or even from the malware they downloaded from that site) by their AV.
They would have lost their coins without an AV.

is phishing a virus?


it's not, is it?

But it's better than nothing right? Most of the time, AV really helps you avoid old and new viruses from time to time. If you are not a techy guy that doesn't know much about phishing, malware, and alike, at the very least anti-virus would help you secure your computer. I'm not saying AV protects you completely, it's just that it helps. The level of security still depends on the user.
This is actually right where it is much more better if we do have AV than have nothing at all.Come to think that you can even get a full or pro version via cracked without spending some dime into your wallet but be careful on downloading due to lots of malware spread up so its still risky though but they are there.For those who don't care too much with their own desktops and fan of downloading randomly online then AV would be at least a good tool for some sort of protection and as said it might not be totally safe but a considerable software to have.

New and updated viruses as the years passed by do exist that's why if we are looking for some good AV then better pick one of the best.Im using ESET nod32 professional and it do keeps updating.I cant say I'm 100% safe but I'm little bit confident that I do have it.The primary thing needed for you not to be hacked is on your own common sense.

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September 12, 2019, 06:59:46 PM
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This is actually right where it is much more better if we do have AV than have nothing at all.

This - as a general statement - is wrong.

It depends on a lot of factors, mostly the OS. If you are using windows.. then yes, you need some AV.
But why are you using windows in the first place ? Because you like the clicky-pointy way of opening applications ? Is it worth compromising your security for that ?

An AV can slow down your system pretty heavily. It always depends on what you need and what tradeoffs you are willing to take.



Come to think that you can even get a full or pro version via cracked without spending some dime

Sure.. get a cracked version for free.
Because that is surely not infected with malware  Roll Eyes

I mean.. come on.. are you really that naive ?



New and updated viruses as the years passed by do exist that's why if we are looking for some good AV then better pick one of the best.

Exactly these new and 'updated' viruses (you meant malware, right ?) won't be detected by AV's.

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September 12, 2019, 07:19:41 PM
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I don't think that Antivirus are so important.
They provide you the basic protection, but the user should be cautious in every action he does on his PC. If you don't be careful and download malicious content or press on dangerous links, the antivirus won't be the one to be blamed.

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