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September 23, 2019, 12:27:43 PM
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Yes I have read the rules. What is it exactly you mean where we don’t follow the rules? And where the rest we complain about are according to the rules? And you also thanks for a civil conversation.

The main 2 reasons why posts get deleted are:

- consecutive posting in a thread: bumping a thread by posting 2 times in a row. If you wrote the last comment in a thread, edit your comment if you have something new to say, don't post a new comment.

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Pretty much any sort of racism, sexism, hate speech or other distasteful talk is allowed here, so long as it isn't violating any laws (for example, no threats to commit personal harm).

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September 23, 2019, 01:18:18 PM
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Yes I have read the rules. What is it exactly you mean where we don’t follow the rules? And where the rest we complain about are according to the rules? And you also thanks for a civil conversation.

You haven't. You multipost like crazy, and that's not even accounting for all your sockpuppets. Most of your "rebuttals" are low-value garbage. There is some copy-pasta as well:

In case anyone would have missed it.

2019 will be a great year for Bankera.

XRP recently added to the exchange and a lot off updates are coming up for the exchange.
More coins/tokens to be added in the coming weeks.
Cards are coming back.
Loans recently launched
Iban opening up.
They are opening offices in multiple EEA
Marketing starting soon! (with known youtubers)

i case anyone would have missed it.

2019 will be a great year for Bankera.

  • XRP recently added to the exchange and a lot off updates are coming up for the exchange.
  • More coins/tokens to be added in the coming weeks.
  • Cards are coming back.
  • Loans recently launched
  • Iban opening up.
  • They are opening offices in multiple EEA
  • Marketing starting soon! (with known youtubers)





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September 23, 2019, 02:20:02 PM
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Yes I have read the rules. What is it exactly you mean where we don’t follow the rules? And where the rest we complain about are according to the rules? And you also thanks for a civil conversation.

You haven't. You multipost like crazy, and that's not even accounting for all your sockpuppets. Most of your "rebuttals" are low-value garbage. There is some copy-pasta as well:

In case anyone would have missed it.

2019 will be a great year for Bankera.

XRP recently added to the exchange and a lot off updates are coming up for the exchange.
More coins/tokens to be added in the coming weeks.
Cards are coming back.
Loans recently launched
Iban opening up.
They are opening offices in multiple EEA
Marketing starting soon! (with known youtubers)

i case anyone would have missed it.

2019 will be a great year for Bankera.

  • XRP recently added to the exchange and a lot off updates are coming up for the exchange.
  • More coins/tokens to be added in the coming weeks.
  • Cards are coming back.
  • Loans recently launched
  • Iban opening up.
  • They are opening offices in multiple EEA
  • Marketing starting soon! (with known youtubers)






Excellent excellent. so while you found one repeating post which is made on whole pages full off repeating post (which i find rebuttal) we agree that this isn't exactly approved on?

I'm Lithuanian myself. I remember long time ago  i was searching for Spectrocoin office. This one:
UAB Spectro Finance
Vilniaus g. 31
Vilnius LT-01402
Lithuania
And guess what? It does not exists. I asked some people in that building, but they never heard about spectrocoin.
And the telephone +44 20 3769 5474  is fake too.


Great news. Fake addresses, fake promises... The word FAKE is very closely associated with bankera.


Yes the number for sure is fake, I dialled it to test.

Another thing, the address they gave for the UK is a mailing address - they do not have an office there: Kemp House, 160 City Road, London EC1V 2NX

It costs around 100 EURO a year to get permission to use that address as a company mailing address and that address is shared by many companies: https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/

According to this link there are over 1000 companies that have used the same address as a "mailing address" but have never actually existed there, it just looks nice to put on websites and company documents to fool people in to thinking they are a big company with an office in London, UK: http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/kemp-house-152-160-city-road-london-ec1v-2nx

Thankfully the Spectrocoin/Bankera drama is falling apart as they are now being scrutinised more and more






I'm Lithuanian myself. I remember long time ago  i was searching for Spectrocoin office. This one:
UAB Spectro Finance
Vilniaus g. 31
Vilnius LT-01402
Lithuania
And guess what? It does not exists. I asked some people in that building, but they never heard about spectrocoin.
And the telephone +44 20 3769 5474  is fake too.


Great news. Fake addresses, fake promises... The word FAKE is very closely associated with bankera.


Yes the number for sure is fake, I dialled it to test.

Another thing, the address they gave for the UK is a mailing address - they do not have an office there: Kemp House, 160 City Road, London EC1V 2NX

It costs around 100 EURO a year to get permission to use that address as a company mailing address and that address is shared by many companies: https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/

According to this link there are over 1000 companies that have used the same address as a "mailing address" but have never actually existed there, it just looks nice to put on websites and company documents to fool people in to thinking they are a big company with an office in London, UK: http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/kemp-house-152-160-city-road-london-ec1v-2nx

Thankfully the Spectrocoin/Bankera drama is falling apart as they are now being scrutinised more and more








They provide fake volumes and fake company details too



Fake phone number, fake address in the UK. They do not have an office there: Kemp House, 160 City Road, London EC1V 2NX

It costs around 100 EURO a year to get permission to use that address as a company mailing address and that address is shared by many companies: https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/

According to this link there are over 1000 companies that have used the same address as a "mailing address" but have never actually existed there, it just looks nice to put on websites and company documents to fool people in to thinking they are a big company with an office in London, UK: http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/kemp-house-152-160-city-road-london-ec1v-2nx

And this exchange is supposed to be the centrepiece attraction of the whole Bankera ecosystem?

It has $3000 in 24 hour trade volumes, how can anybody take this useless "project" seriously?


And just compare the rates with other exchanges. Nobody with clear mind will trade on that exchange. Just two words. GREEDY SCAMMERS



Yes they are greedy scammers

but they need sock-puppets to pump their propaganda in their threads

Bankera = SCAM

Spectrocoin = SCAM

These scammers from Spectrocoin/Bankera have been exposed



Fake phone number, fake address in the UK. They do not have an office there: Kemp House, 160 City Road, London EC1V 2NX

It costs around 100 EURO a year to get permission to use that address as a company mailing address and that address is shared by many companies: https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/

According to this link there are over 1000 companies that have used the same address as a "mailing address" but have never actually existed there, it just looks nice to put on websites and company documents to fool people in to thinking they are a big company with an office in London, UK: http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/kemp-house-152-160-city-road-london-ec1v-2nx


So no defence provided by the sock-puppet team that are pumping Spectrocoin/Bankera:

JohnnyBTC197
Bankera
huup
SpectroCoin_support


I will add these super scammer evil pathetic imbeciles from Spectrocoin/Bankera to my Scam Alert thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146438.0





Fake phone number, fake address in the UK. They do not have an office there: Kemp House, 160 City Road, London EC1V 2NX

It costs around 100 EURO a year to get permission to use that address as a company mailing address and that address is shared by many companies: https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/

According to this link there are over 1000 companies that have used the same address as a "mailing address" but have never actually existed there, it just looks nice to put on websites and company documents to fool people in to thinking they are a big company with an office in London, UK: http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/kemp-house-152-160-city-road-london-ec1v-2nx


So no defence provided by the sock-puppet team that are pumping Spectrocoin/Bankera:

JohnnyBTC197
Bankera
huup
SpectroCoin_support




Fake phone number, fake address in the UK. They do not have an office there: Kemp House, 160 City Road, London EC1V 2NX

It costs around 100 EURO a year to get permission to use that address as a company mailing address and that address is shared by many companies: https://yourvirtualofficelondon.co.uk/

According to this link there are over 1000 companies that have used the same address as a "mailing address" but have never actually existed there, it just looks nice to put on websites and company documents to fool people in to thinking they are a big company with an office in London, UK: http://www.ukaddressbook.uk/a/kemp-house-152-160-city-road-london-ec1v-2nx


I am wondering why they are starting all over again with the same stuff we had over and over again before  Huh

Regarding the offices (we had this topic before...):

There is lithuanian TV documentation regarding Fintech and Blockchain in Lithuania showing
Bankera and their offices.

You can see the full documentation with even more of their offices here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8KS-F4Z7eE&t=623s

But the whole documentation is probably faked like the moon landing  Wink

And also Lon Wong, the former president of the NEM foundation, had a due dilligence at one of their offices in the very beginning:

His tweet regarding the office (with picture): https://twitter.com/2017lon/status/908334221013471232


Why wonder? The answer is clear... you are a sock-puppet belonging to the Spectrocoin/Bankera scammers


100 EURO a year is all it costs to receive mail at the UK 'office'. You and your ilk are a bunch of pathetic imbeciles.






I asked many times to post a video from bankera's office taken by simple mobile phone, but of course my request was rejected by bankera scammers.


I added both Bankera and Spectrocoin to my scam alert signature and also them along with their sock-puppets to my Scam Alert thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146438




I asked many times to post a video from bankera's office taken by simple mobile phone, but of course my request was rejected by bankera scammers.


Bankera/Spectrocoin are scammers that use mailing addresses to pass off as their own company office address.

Their UK phone number is dead - just like their project

Their sock-puppet accounts can post here as much as they want with repeat large images from repeat posts made many months ago but they will not be able to stop those of us that want to expose the Bankera/Spectrocoin scammers

I added both Bankera and Spectrocoin to my scam alert signature and also them along with their sock-puppets to my Scam Alert thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146438

Does anybody know how many millions the Spectrocoin/Bankera scammers stole from the ICO?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2091093.msg52066448#msg52066448

Thank you for the information.

The Spectrocoin/Bankera scammers stole millions. I wonder how many of those funds can be traced back to their hideout in Lithuania?






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September 23, 2019, 02:33:45 PM
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Excellent excellent. so while you found one repeating post which is made on whole pages full off repeating post (which i find rebuttal) we agree that this isn't exactly approved on?

There is a lot more than one. And whataboutism is a dumb defense strategy, typical for scammers. Create a self-modded thread and rot there. Forum rules still apply in self-modded threads though so you might want to read up on it.
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September 23, 2019, 06:55:08 PM
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Selfmoderated Threads can be done with min of 5 Merits or something like that and also maybe Chopper Members can do it !
Would be nice if that gets inplemented from theymos !

Seriously? Is there chopper member exist here?

Selfmoderates is not used for deleting every post contrary to OP.
I ever discuss about it on my local board.
The conclusion of my discussion, OP can delete the user posts if the posts are repeat another post above (spam) or the post have bad language/behaviour (nice project, good luck, profitable work, etc).
Otherwise, if the user posts have contrary with OP,  they must discuss till have conclusions and agreement. They must show valid proof and literary.
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September 24, 2019, 05:59:20 AM
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Selfmoderates is not used for deleting every post contrary to OP.

This depends entirely on the OP. Sure, a good OP won't do that, but some will do.

I wish our thread was self moderated. ....

Scam accusations are not moderated. Just do what suchmoon suggested, start a new one.
Which rule said 'scam spamming' is forbidden btw?

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Last edit: September 24, 2019, 08:08:52 AM by tranthidung
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Seriously? Is there chopper member exist here?
Yes, one of them is hilariousandco

I think now it is time to look back the ANN thread of theymos, when he enabled the option for self-moderated threads.
From which, there are two main objectives of self-moderated threads:
  • Owners only want to collect posts that reply to them, not to others in their self-moderated threads.
  • Posts reply to other respondents (not threads' owners) will be judged by owners and delete or not delete will depends on their perspective as well as their mood.  Smiley
Basically, there is nothing wrong if a user posts in a self-moderated thread and minutes or hours later see that post deleted. It is the 'worst' case that poster should aware of at beginnings.
In most sections, you now have the option of marking topics self-moderated when creating them. In self-moderated topics, the OP can delete replies. The option for enabling this is under "additional options". Topics cannot be converted to self-moderated topics after creation.

There are no rules to self-moderation. In self-moderated threads, replies belong to the OP. In other threads, replies belong to the respondents individually. Think carefully about whether you want to reply to a self-moderated topic, as your post may not be given due respect.

Tell me if there are any bugs. If this ends up not working out well, I might remove it.

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I wish our thread was self moderated. ....

Scam accusations are not moderated. Just do what suchmoon suggested, start a new one.
Which rule said 'scam spamming' is forbidden btw?

Hi,

While searching for answers we found this guideline created by our moderater:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0

where we found these two examples

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Examples:

1. Such posts as "SELL SELL SELL", "I agree", "+1", "Support", "Watching", "Interesting", "LOL", "SCAM", "LEGIT", "FAKE", other one word posts, posts consisting mostly of swearing, quote pyramids, useless introduction threads, threads about a topic already recently discussed in several other threads.



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Q: Do you moderate/delete (possible) FUD, accusations and untrue information?
A: No. We don't have enough time to check every single piece of information and verify the validity of the sources. Also, just like scams - too much room for bias and abuse.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

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