[SOLVED] Abuser gave me a negative feedback.

[StonerStanley]

because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name

Which account? What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

Really ? you are serious so i have to find my old username ?

I don't even remember of the name because sometime i use an unique username (like StonerStanley, or i also have a long list of differents usernames that i use all over internet and that i don't want to write here) Even if i take one hour to find it in my mails it won't change anything at the situation  

Of course i won't present my project with this account now but i will make a new one because there is a big red flag above the thread saying that i'm maybe a scammer... which is unnaceptable. For a forum like that
where we should present our projects associated with Bitcoin it's really not a good thing to be treaten like that and it's not good for the entire community. If a new member come on the forum and he watch at my project, he'll see that i'm maybe a scammer so it doesn't give a good reputation to the entire forum and to the bitcoin reputation where a lot of scam already happenned. A lot of people already doubt about bitcoin because of scammers, and what ? now you flag the honest people as "probable scammer" ? ok.

I understand it's not moderated so it doesn't matter in the end and the questions are useless if it's not moderated.

[TECSHARE]

because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name

Which account? What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

Someone having an alt account is not a valid reason for negative feedback

Irrelevant. This s not the intended use of the trust system.

I posted my observation, but why are you repeating what I have said?

This is a, matter for moderator if anyone.

Trust is not moderated so it is not for moderator.

Also at this point your involvement is unrequested and counterproductive.

So is your involvment in DT. Go spam somewhere else.

He doesn't owe you some explanation as if you are some grand inquisitor. You claimed he could be evading a ban. That is 100% a moderation issue. Last I checked people have to vote for you via inclusions to be on the default trust. Also considering I was directly requested to respond, and the fact that ABitNut is on DT via my inclusion, I am directly involved here. What is your reason for involving yourself other than your own personal entertainment?

What changed, is that TECHSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx).

Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT.   He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust.  It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now.

ABitNut, I am requesting on StonerStanley's behalf that you please remove your negative rating for him. He has taken the first conciliatory step towards mutual restoration, and your original rating seems somewhat baseless.

@ABiNut, no one will blame you if you tell the hypocrite TECHSHARE to fuck off.   He really should look at his abusive feedback before he comments on others.  If TECHY threatens to distrust if you don't do as he demands, myself and many others will counter his baseless accusation.

So I assume you are now back to your regular pattern of obsessive compulsive stalking now that you have abandoned pretending to ignore me? You have some fucking nerve lecturing anyone about principles, abusive feedback, baseless accusations and threats.

These two clowns are a prime example of why there are never any restorative solutions applied around here, because if there is mutually restorative solutions, how can they masturbate over abusing the minuscule amount of authority they have here that they never got to enjoy in real life?

I don't have to make demands or accusations. I made a request. That is what people who hold the respect of others do, because that is what engenders respect from others. You should try it some time. Frankly I think you are just upset you have to host a website that shows I am far more trusted than you, and you can't handle it.

[marlboroza]

You claimed he could be evading a ban.

Except cherry picking (I also said "tagged"), as I said, it is my observation, we are talking about trust feedback so it is not moderation issue.

Also considering I was directly requested to respond, and the fact that ABitNut is on DT via my inclusion, I am directly involved here. What is your reason for involving yourself other than your own personal entertainment?

Do it privately then.

because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name

Which account? What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

Even if i take one hour to find it in my mails it won't change anything at the situation

Why not? It could.

What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

[TECSHARE]

You claimed he could be evading a ban.

Except cherry picking (I also said "tagged"), as I said, it is my observation, we are talking about trust feedback so it is not moderation issue.

Also considering I was directly requested to respond, and the fact that ABitNut is on DT via my inclusion, I am directly involved here. What is your reason for involving yourself other than your own personal entertainment?

Do it privately then.

because i had another account from 2012 which i left to make this one with another name

Which account? What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

Even if i take one hour to find it in my mails it won't change anything at the situation

Why not? It could.

What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

That is a cute little semantic game. This rating has no substantiation or basis in anything other than the fact that he has more than one account and you SUSPECT based on nothing else he COULD MAYBE have done something worthy of tagging. I am not cherry picking anything.

I will do it wherever the fuck I please, I have a reason to be here. Your only reason for your unsolicited involvement is your obsessive compulsive need to control others.

No one owes you any answers. No one asked you to be here. You aren't resolving anything, more so you are purposely attempting to sabotage a resolution to satiate your own desires to lord over others with your insignificant amount of authority.

[marlboroza]

This rating has no substantiation or basis in anything other than the fact that he has more than one account and you SUSPECT based on nothing else he COULD MAYBE have done something worthy of tagging.

It doesn't look so:

Vod is an abuser and he's a moderators friend, i already got the experience from them Wink so don't waste your time, like me: make a new account and be careful when you talk because this forum is full of corrupted/idiots mods.

ps: yes this is not my main acc.

I will do it wherever the fuck I please

Me too.

What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

[TECSHARE]

This rating has no substantiation or basis in anything other than the fact that he has more than one account and you SUSPECT based on nothing else he COULD MAYBE have done something worthy of tagging.

It doesn't look so:

Vod is an abuser and he's a moderators friend, i already got the experience from them Wink so don't waste your time, like me: make a new account and be careful when you talk because this forum is full of corrupted/idiots mods.

ps: yes this is not my main acc.

I will do it wherever the fuck I please

Me too.

What was the reason to leave it and use new account?

Cool story bro. That is not evidence of anything but suspicion. Having an alt account is not a reason to tag some one alone, and he doesn't owe answers to your interrogation. The difference is I was requested to be involved and am inherently involved. You just choose to impose yourself where no one asked you to be so you can give your pathetic life the feeling of having a minuscule amount of control.

[marlboroza]

The difference is I was requested to be involved and am inherently involved. You just choose to impose yourself where no one asked you to be so you can give your pathetic life the feeling of having a minuscule amount of control.

Do it privately then.

[TECSHARE]

The difference is I was requested to be involved and am inherently involved. You just choose to impose yourself where no one asked you to be so you can give your pathetic life the feeling of having a minuscule amount of control.

Do it privately then.

No. This concerns me directly and in a public way.

[marlboroza]

No. This concerns me directly and in a public way.

Ok, so it is public then and we should wait for OP to say what was the reason to use new account, reading removed post it looks like they are evading something.

I am not sure why you've ignored this fact.

[nutildah]

What changed, is that TECHSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx).

Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT.   He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust.  It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now.

This is correct. TECSHARE has been trying to get reciprocal inclusions for a few months now. Its finally paid off. The DT1s that he has nothing in common with except for reciprocal inclusions are:

WhiteManWhite (Russian local board poster)
Kalemder (Turkish local board poster)
bobita (Turkish local board poster)
Matthias9515 (Turkish local board poster) (left a positive trust for TS on 6/29, was added by TS a month later, during the first week that Matthias was on DT1)
mhanbostanci (Turkish local board poster)

He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4.

He also included two other Turkish posters soon after they were added to DT1, PHI1618 and by rallier whom he subsequently dropped (I imagine it was for not getting the reciprocal trust he was hoping for)

He's still waiting for Vispilio to reciprocate, probably unaware that he just fell off DT1 for not having the minimum number of inclusions.

Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.

[Vod]

I will do it wherever the fuck I please

Fine.  If you want to abuse trust and throw away all your ethics just to get on DT; that is just your true nature.

But fuck off telling people to clean up their lists when you don't do it yourself.

Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.

Theymos has already stated the idiot TECHY has no place near DT.

I believe his ultimate goal is to make the forum collapse by making it difficult to do business here.  We either do it his way, or we don't get to do it at all.  :/

[hacker1001101001]

He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4.

That's pretty simple dear, they like how Mr.TECSHARE handles some forum situations like this one with mutual conclusions..

[nutildah]

He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4.

That's pretty simple dear, they like how Mr.TECSHARE handles some forum situations like this one with mutual conclusions..

What does that have to do with him including 7 Turkish DT1 users in his trust list within a week or two of them being added to DT1? Please, let's let him answer for himself.

[hacker1001101001]

What does that have to do with him including 7 Turkish DT1 users in his trust list within a week or two of them being added to DT1? Please, let's let him answer for himself.

What you are asking him is not even relevant to the issue in the OP.

You never bothered to explain why you added me to your distrust list, and you are lecturing about someone else's inclusion, which is totally off topic here anyways.

It always looks like how he says dude !

rules for thee but not for me

[The Sceptical Chymist]

So you want the forum to ban ABitNut and yourself for leaving unnecessary feedback?

He probably does, but you and I both know it's not going to happen.  People are calling for game-protect to be banned for the same thing, and his list of wrongly-given negs is far more extensive.  I happen to think there's some merit to that argument, since game-protect is essentially spamming, but ABitNut isn't.

Perhaps ABitNut will reconsider his feedback, which he likely shouldn't have left in the first place.  It's true that alt accounts are allowed, and members generally don't get negged just for having multiple accounts.  If they're abusing bounties with them, that's one thing but getting negative trust just for having alts?  That's not worthy of a neg.

[nutildah]

What does that have to do with him including 7 Turkish DT1 users in his trust list within a week or two of them being added to DT1? Please, let's let him answer for himself.

What you are asking him is not even relevant to the issue in the OP.

Its relevant because it explains why OP's neg shows up as default now.

You never bothered to explain why you added me to your distrust list, and you are lecturing about someone else's inclusion, which is totally off topic here anyways.

Er what? You combined two thoughts into one here. If you must know, I distrusted you because I don't trust reformed shitposters that suddenly decide to take an interest in forum issues. You're trying too hard.

It always looks like how he says dude !

rules for thee but not for me

Yes, you're exactly right. TECSHARE wants to fight trust abuse while regularly engaging in it himself.

[hacker1001101001]

Its relevant because it explains why OP's neg shows up as default now.

It is irrelevant because, TECSHARE already addressed the issue in an mutual manner, before you add some drama into it.

Er what? You combined two thoughts into one here. If you must know, I distrusted you because I don't trust reformed shitposters that suddenly decide to take an interest in forum issues. You're trying too hard.

That looks like a solid reason from some on DT1.

Still, everyone is a reformed shitposter here, if you see. And if that's how you see me I am more than happy to be someone who has at least reformed. You could never do this with your merry go round shit posting about judging and hunting people's around here yet..

Yes, you're exactly right. TECSHARE wants to fight trust abuse while regularly engaging in it himself.

You too do the same, its just you don't see yourself fitting in the example.

[StonerStanley]

Ok but stop fighting it's useless.

I was just looking to bring my account back to the normal and because i don't like injustice and also to have a better impact the day when i'll expose my project (having a good reputation, an account with an avatar, being a high rank member is always better if you want to expose your projects and to have a better impact). This is not my first account but of course this is my main account and only account that i use.

I'm very happy of my projects and my skills, i don't need to stay on a forum that make me feel bad and where people lies and fight each others and doubt about me, and where there is no moderation. I don't need to abuse of my power to feel right with myself, nor i need to have a legendary account to bring my project at the top (even if unfortunately i'll get less members at the beginning because some people will doubt about me before sending bitcoin on my website). You don't want to grow and act as adults ? ok, i'm not a mediator but a developer and scientist. Even if i'm an independant i don't have my time to waste in such conversations but i appreciate the fact that some people in the community are trying to bring the peace  (by the way maybe i'm not good in English because it's not my first language).

This feedback is not a big problem for me (and the whole world), but i doubt that this kind of actions and this kind of mentalities is good for the future of bitcointalk (some mentalities over this thread and a lot of others threads all over the forum).
As a old school white hacker if i want to scam someone i don't even need to scam him, i directly find vulnerabilities and i steal what i want to steal if i want to steal it.  But i have got so much skills
that i don't need to scam anybody. Some of you guys are paranoid and i have no time to lose proving it i will prove it by presenting my project in the beggining of 2020, with another account but you'll know it.

Some people think to be big players just because they are legendary on a forum and because they made a little website of bitcointalk statistics or a pool or something else easy to develop ? damn... how some people can think to be so big when in facts they are so low in skill and low in influence over the world ? Stay humble...

It's not the first time that i see bad mentalities on this forum and now it affect me so i leave the forum and i'll make a new account to present my project later without according more signification to Bitcointalk than just making a presentation of my project because there is a lot of dishonest and megalomaniacs people on this forum (and that i lose an account)

Of course i'll keep using this account is the feedback is removed.

Thanks to anybody who tried to bring the peace, i wont reply anymore because i keep repeteating myself and i've a lot of work to do.

See you later with another username

"No times for losers" - Freddie Mercury

(i will make a new account because this account have a negative feedback because someone think that it is not my main account, then i will get a new negative feedback on the new account because it won't be my first main account haha)

PS: and what if i make 100 accounts with proxies and hotspots, then i make them grow and then i put negative feedback to anyone i want ? it should be stupid, but because the feedback system is not moderated
then i could do it and it could make great damage on the forum (even if i won't do it). This function should be moderated otherwise someone could make you think twice before letting it not moderated.

[TECSHARE]

No. This concerns me directly and in a public way.

Ok, so it is public then and we should wait for OP to say what was the reason to use new account, reading removed post it looks like they are evading something.

I am not sure why you've ignored this fact.

I haven't ignored anything. It is none of your fucking business. The end.

I will do it wherever the fuck I please

Fine.  If you want to abuse trust and throw away all your ethics just to get on DT; that is just your true nature.

But fuck off telling people to clean up their lists when you don't do it yourself.

Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.

Theymos has already stated the idiot TECHY has no place near DT.

I believe his ultimate goal is to make the forum collapse by making it difficult to do business here.  We either do it his way, or we don't get to do it at all.  :/

So posting here in public is "throwing away all my ethics?" What? Try harder. Again, you have some fucking nerve to point the finger at anyone about ethics, your abuse spans back years and affects hundreds of users. BTW when did I tell anyone to "clean up their lists?" Again none of these pathetic clown car inhabitants give a fuck about anything other than following me around to try to cause drama. None of this insane rambling is even on topic.

What changed, is that TECHSHARE reached DT1 (strength 0 instead of negative) a few hours ago (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx).

Yeah, for the last few weeks he has been putting aside his morals and belief structure to get back on DT.   He stopped distrusting everyone and started trusting many others, hoping for retaliatory trust.  It was a good example for Theymos to see just how easily idiots can get on DT right now.

This is correct. TECSHARE has been trying to get reciprocal inclusions for a few months now. Its finally paid off. The DT1s that he has nothing in common with except for reciprocal inclusions are:

WhiteManWhite (Russian local board poster)
Kalemder (Turkish local board poster)
bobita (Turkish local board poster)
Matthias9515 (Turkish local board poster) (left a positive trust for TS on 6/29, was added by TS a month later, during the first week that Matthias was on DT1)
mhanbostanci (Turkish local board poster)

He's never interacted with these users as they all post exclusively on their local boards (except when they make the exception to visit Meta or Reputation to address trust-related issues). I'm going to assume that he doesn't speak enough Russian or Turkish to understand the ratings left by these users and (for the most part) they don't speak enough English to understand his, and the only reason he included them was to gain enough votes to be back out of the negatives on DT. Without them, he would be back at -4.

He also included two other Turkish posters soon after they were added to DT1, PHI1618 and by rallier whom he subsequently dropped (I imagine it was for not getting the reciprocal trust he was hoping for)

He's still waiting for Vispilio to reciprocate, probably unaware that he just fell off DT1 for not having the minimum number of inclusions.

Outside of OP's issue with ABitNut, this is exactly the kind of behavior that should be discouraged in the DT system.

And you know the amount of interaction I have had with these users how? I imagine you rape goats dressed in full drag when you get restless. I guess it must be reality!

Also seven in a week? I know counting to 2 is hard for you but please try. None of this is on topic, if you want to discuss it I would be happy to in your own personal butthurt thread for the topic in reputation. I know you are fond of those types of threads, go make another and talk about it till the clowns come home. "outside of the op" is called off topic little girl. This is clearly not about resolving the topic issue, but about the fact that the clown car can't stand that they can't permanently punish me for calling out their collective abuse by working together to keep me off the default trust. I guess you are just becoming irrelevant. I wonder who's fault that is? Clearly it is not a result of your own behavior!

[marlboroza]

I haven't ignored anything. It is none of your fucking business. The end.

So why don't you counter it?