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September 18, 2019, 07:44:34 AM
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While your solution makes sense we must also understand that some people have personalities that make them more likely to get addicted to something, so even if you were to replace habits that you may think as negative those people will just redirect their addiction to something else and as we know something that may be considered to be harmless can still be very damaging to people if moderation is not exercised, so no matter how much we try there are some people that cannot be helped no matter what we do.
I think all this is based on mindset. No one is born with an addictive nature. Those that become addicted or suffer addiction didn't consider playing with wisdom. You have mentioned moderation in your post and this is the very thing most gamblers suffer from.

To those who play for fun and yet get addicted, they feel their all-round happiness and joy is tied to gambling, so they are willing to stay all day gambling and in no time they become addicted and to those playing for money, theirs is always worst because they are just desperate to make it at all cost.  These kind of people are the reasons behind gambling being seen as bad and dirty.
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September 18, 2019, 08:01:59 AM
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Well, I don't agree because you did not steal it and you did not take that money by force and if you win then it is because you are lucky. The gambling industry is legal because if not then the people who work there is receiving dirty money if that is your perception to the money coming from it. It is just when you won huge from gambling, it is not something you can be proud of yourself.
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September 18, 2019, 04:29:48 PM
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People should start questioning motifs of people more than blindly reading everything on the internet.

The sources quoted by the OP are questionable and biased opinions by people who have their own propaganda against gambling. If you are fed by this propaganda be happy with it and dont gamble but for those who are gamblers they are fully aware of what they use to gamble with and it is their own personal choice to gamble or not.

Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources. But there is no need to comment on that because they chose to go to the wrong side of the world instead of stopping their desire to gamble.


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Truely sometimes addiction makes people do wrong things and get money from wrong sources

Interesting.
The addiction thing is probably responsible for people (kids especially) stealing money to gamble. This could explain why addicted kids in my school days would always have money issue with their parents. It's most likely due to addiction because the kids would never stop taking things without their parents permission
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September 18, 2019, 10:21:34 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



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1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/
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September 19, 2019, 02:22:55 AM
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I count gambling money is dirty because it is from different kinds of people who goes there. Most gamblers go for gambling to multiply their money. Gamblers are selfish,they want to have the money in there. There are lots of baf attitude just to win in gambling site. Example,Some are from robbery.so l count it as a dirty money.

But we cannot blame the gamblers because they always play gambling every day. That will be their responsibility to take care of their money, but we can suggest they not used their money in a huge amount. If they don't want to listen to us, then it is up to them because that is their money.

Some of the gamblers are selfish, but the others are not, and we cannot judge all of them are selfish. Yes, we realize that many of them have a bad attitude when they are playing gambling, but as long as they can control themselves in the gambling games, I think we could let them decide to continue or to stop playing gambling.

The money is dirty, or not will depend on where we see the money come from, and we should respect what they did.
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September 19, 2019, 05:22:13 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



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1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.

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September 19, 2019, 05:50:35 AM
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In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
This will be depending on which country and what community you’re living mate because there are countries that consider gambling is really illegal so that’s another story

And there are community as well that treat gambling as part of their daily living,so in which you live there’s appropriate treatment for gambling
So from that you will differentiate if gambling money is dirty or not









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September 19, 2019, 12:22:44 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



Sources:
1. https://questionsonislam.com/question/what-gambling-what-view-islam-gambling
2. https://www.philstar.com/other-sections/education-and-home/2016/09/29/1628372/briones-shuns-gambling-money-education
3. https://www.manilatimes.net/2016/10/29/opinion/editorial/pragmatism-morality-classrooms-pagcor-money/293705/



In a religious point of view it is. However, gambling has been part of our culture and daily lives and also it is a big business industry which I think helps the economy. Even some big casinos help charities and foes their social responsibility. So, I think it depends on what view are you looking at gambling.
I supported the part of gambling being part of our daily lives because every trading and investment we do through crypto or in the real life are also another form of gambling.
Meanwhile, the benefit and help which the gambling company provided to our societies are one of the reason why I don't consider gambling money as dirty money.

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September 19, 2019, 07:24:19 PM
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I realize that every group or religion or whatever it is has at least a different view of gambling, despite the fact that despite different religions there are still those who consider gambling money dirty and I admit it. IMO, there is nothing wrong about this even though at this time we can say it is an old-fashioned view, but because of the religion and advice of parents about gambling, then I think that old-fashioned view or not depends on the perception of each individual because gambling continues to grow and increasingly many people who gamble I feel gambling is part of the lifestyle for those who like to gamble.

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September 19, 2019, 11:59:08 PM
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I realize that every group or religion or whatever it is has at least a different view of gambling, despite the fact that despite different religions there are still those who consider gambling money dirty and I admit it. IMO, there is nothing wrong about this even though at this time we can say it is an old-fashioned view, but because of the religion and advice of parents about gambling, then I think that old-fashioned view or not depends on the perception of each individual because gambling continues to grow and increasingly many people who gamble I feel gambling is part of the lifestyle for those who like to gamble.
Gambling has now got to be common as a lifestyle of the present generation. From every religious view it is against the religious following or dirty money. There is a saying in my locality, liquor, women and gambling could ruin your life easily. We need to understand the limits and gamble, and it is an easy money though we risk our own money. This too is a reason for people to say it as dirty money.

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September 20, 2019, 12:32:07 PM
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IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.




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September 20, 2019, 01:52:49 PM
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Even though gambling results are dirty money, they don't care because what they need is profits that can be obtained in a short way.
and pleasure will be a reason for those who want good luck, and in my religious teachings gambling is also prohibited but they still bet even though they risk losing everything but that will not scare them.

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September 20, 2019, 02:02:44 PM
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If Gambling money is dirty money then what happens to all the money that gets back into circulation from gambling winnings and comes to us as clean Fiat money....so are we going to stop using it, I don't think so!

Am sure this is what elders say to discourage the younger ones from gambling and not because it's dirty money.

And as far as I know since gamblers rarely win and come with money from home, then it's most likely that gambling houses have clean money and we use the dirt when we not playing.
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September 20, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?



these are basically to avoid doing gambling , because many lose in gambling eventually many gamblers risk a lot and put them in trouble so many things are said like this so to avoid doing and thinking of gambling 
You’re not getting the point here mate,it’s not about the restriction on why OP asked about the topic it’s about what or where can be the gambling money lined if

For me it’s not a dirty money of you use your money camping from work or other good ways of profiteering,and how you handle to play

I f you first feed you family and the extra money goes to gamble that’s ok.

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September 20, 2019, 04:23:02 PM
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Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.









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September 20, 2019, 05:39:23 PM
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The view is not of your mum alone because it cuts across every spheres of human endeavours and the reason is not far fetched which was what was obtainable in the past as at when they were growing up. People who engage in gambling at the time are seen as social menace who are people that are lazy and decide to see gambling as a quick way to get rich and we have seen people also use the route as a means to launder their ill gotten wealth.

Truth be told, even in today's dispensation, there have been argument and release of "dirty money" finding its way into gambling but its not as profound as its being said because today we have the KYC being applied to gambling whether online or offline where gambling sites are made to comply with.
It is just absurd that morality is no longer a thing of paramount importance in today’s world if not, we would admit that gambling is a complete disaster to the society and a plague that should be avoided especially by our children. This shit is addictive and online platform has made it easier for underage kids that should be focused with their education spend unnecessary time on gambling site.

I never liked gambling until few years ago, my friends succeeded I convincing me that it isn’t just an avenue for quick money but can also be played for fun, this I tried and I am impressed but all the same, I in support of the opinion that money gotten from gambling is nothing but dirty money.

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September 20, 2019, 06:04:30 PM
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I think Gambling is prohibited in some religious. That's why people who believe in God or believe in the religion doesn’t like gambling. I know, in Islam gambling is Haram. If someone do gambling and lives hos life on that, he will be thrown to hell.

My family also Doesn't support gambling. People here says, they will die without eating but never earn by gambling.                           

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September 20, 2019, 09:51:52 PM
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Gambling can make someone lose everything. gambling can be addictive. gambling can change the way people think. but gambling can also train mentally and adrenaline. gambling should be a fun game. but if it's too serious and sacrificed money for gambling I think it's the wrong way.
Everyone has their own thoughts and beliefs. all depends on personal beliefs. I myself consider gambling just as an exciting game.
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September 20, 2019, 11:49:40 PM
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I think Gambling is prohibited in some religious. That's why people who believe in God or believe in the religion doesn’t like gambling. I know, in Islam gambling is Haram. If someone do gambling and lives hos life on that, he will be thrown to hell.
It is true, it is prohibited in Islam but in other religion they don't emphasize that gambling is a sin.
I'm a Christian and I gamble, and my family doesn't mind as my father also gambles, in general it doesn't affect our life, so for me, why should people be prohibited when it's fun to gamble, maybe the measure in some religion is more on preventive and they generalize the solution to the possible problem it will bring because if more gamblers are irresponsible, it will ruin his life and his family, thanks God I am not.

My family also Doesn't support gambling. People here says, they will die without eating but never earn by gambling.                           

If they want to live, gambling is not the solution, people gamble to spend to have fun but not to earn, at least for the majority.

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September 21, 2019, 12:47:10 AM
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Well, the words Dirty money is that money came from stolen and something you are committing crimes just for money or those illegal activities that you can earn money. If you had gambled with provably fair with your opponents or even the house edge without cheating the outcome on that is clean money and that is not dirty money. Indeed, the profit on gambling through honest way is not a dirty money.

but some religious people don't care about if the process is fair. the reason why they consider gambling money dirty is because it is said
on they're bible, quran etc.. that gambling is a form of sin which is greed it won't matter to them if it was fair as long as it came from gambling it is a sin for them.

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