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September 27, 2019, 06:32:05 AM
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It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling


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September 27, 2019, 06:43:05 AM
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It's all up to you when you hate or do you love and addicted gambling. The people who really Love's and addicted gambling is...they don't mind money where it's came from. But from the people who really hate's gambling for sure they will ask first where the money came from and for sure the first reason that they will put on their mind is the money is from a dirty place where the gamblers are there.

Their are few reasons which differ from people to people . Firstly if it’s a banned in country and still gambling then people consider it as bad money . Secondly if it’s banned in any religion and still doing then they do consider as bad . Then it’s a individual decision if they find it good or bad .

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September 27, 2019, 06:45:15 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.

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September 27, 2019, 07:06:02 AM
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When you have a clean hand then you no need to worry about where it comes from,only the person who give it to you will go to hell not you. Grin

In the meanwhile some people saying gambling is a sin,many gambling companies were born and successfully running as well means people changing from old age to modern world.
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September 27, 2019, 08:17:08 AM
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This to me is a traditional view which remains persistent until the very day.

My mother considered gambling as playing with money. She sternly reminded us not to gamble. When I was in college, there was a hot debate within the church whether or not to accept donations coming from dirty sources such as gambling. And in Islam, gambling (maysir) is haram (forbidden). [1]

I have a friend whose father would not serve the family food bought using gambling money.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

What are your thoughts on these? Do you agree with it, or you consider these as old-fashioned views?


So many factors and it depends on your status, and the society where you belong, like if you live in a country where shariah is the governing rules and Islam is the religion, you should respect what your religion preach to their followers, but if you are living in a liberal country and where gambling is very prevalent, then I don't think you will consider gambling is dirty money.
Yeah it depends on where you stand, if you believe in your religious teachings then do it and obey it. nobody forces you to play gambling. dirty money or not depends on everyone's perspective, because we know that everyone has various teachings about the law in life of their religion
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September 27, 2019, 08:42:03 AM
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IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.


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September 27, 2019, 09:42:29 AM
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Churches will accept donations coming from their followers as they give it for good intention and nobody is asking where it comes.
But I think if there's a hot topic and it was known that the money donated to them comes from illegal activities, they won't hesitate to return it and stop accepting donations from those sources.
And this would depend on the management and officials if they will take it seriously and they still have that integrity and conviction to what they do.

That's right. People will not allow donating their money because they are strict with illegal activities. But some people will say that depends on the intention of the heart and as long as they don't tell the source of the money, they think it is okay to donate that money. What I discuss with my friend last night is when we can win from gambling, we can use that money to celebrate, buy some food, enjoy the time together without thinking about donation if we don't want to give the money.

I think that will be as simple as we can think because that will depend on us for what we want to do with the win money. And if you prefer to donate the money, then you better not tell them about the source of the money so they can accept the money without asking too much question.
The generosity of the giver will be considered but the source should also be taken as a serious matter to consider. But you have answered my worry perfectly, if the church authorities will ask where the source will be and the donator will say it's from his own pocket or just simply tells that there's someone who has a good heart that doesn't want to show up to give that donation.
There's no way for them to figure out where that money came.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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September 27, 2019, 10:26:16 AM
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IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.

Claiming himself as a religious person who thinks that gambling is a negative thing but he is trying to earn money by applying in a signature campaign of a gambling site. He should not even apply for any campaigns related to gambling if he claims himself as a religious person who is against dirty money. He should not even play any gambling games, he says that he do not play gambling very often means he do it in some opportunities means that his claim to be religious person is just a BS.

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September 27, 2019, 10:36:38 AM
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It depends on Money that they use for gambling. if the money came from a illegal job etc then that's a dirty money because of addiction on gambling some of people doing illegal just like rubbery or etc for just a small amount of money and they try to gambling it.this kind people are those who have a small source of income, and it's depend on what gambling their have and Status of Life they have.

In my opinion, dirty money can be called only what is obtained by deceiving other people. Many Goverments themselves trade in arms and administer gambling, while prohibiting their citizens from doing the same. That is why I believe that only cheating other people can be an unworthy way to make money. And if the casino does not have special settings to commit fraud, then his money can not be dirty.

Exactly. There may be distinction between dirty money and money earned through immoral means . Gambling still does not qualify as either the two, depending on laws of nations as it regard gambling. Gambling is really legal where I live. The government even run a lottery program which qualify as gambling

In any case, I don't understand the bias against gambling. Casinos don't make people come and play and lose their money. All people know that casinos exist in order to earn money and not to give it to others and it is very naive to think that you will be able to earn every time coming to the casino. Of course I would not let the casino ludomanov who are sick and lose all their money.
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September 27, 2019, 10:40:57 AM
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IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.

Claiming himself as a religious person who thinks that gambling is a negative thing but he is trying to earn money by applying in a signature campaign of a gambling site. He should not even apply for any campaigns related to gambling if he claims himself as a religious person who is against dirty money. He should not even play any gambling games, he says that he do not play gambling very often means he do it in some opportunities means that his claim to be religious person is just a BS.

Lol. Talk about getting hit back in the face by a boomerang you threw. That's why you don't include religion in discussions like this. If it's money you've earned honestly, then you have all the right to spend it the way you want to. Especially if you're gambling responsibly. You did't steal, you didn't step on other people, and you know the consequences of your gambling. People shouldn't have a say on it.


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September 27, 2019, 11:13:57 AM
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IMO, gambling money is dirty money,
I am a religious person and don't play gambling very often,
based on the teachings of my religious teacher, that gambling is the root of all causes of violence,
this is what I think is the cause of money from gambling is dirty.

So why are you promoting gambling? Your signature is a gambling site and your payment is coming and that is dirty money too ! I didn't add anything differently, I'm saying from your point of view.

Gambling is happening all over the world. Many people  playing as a fun. I do not feel the need to extend sympathy to those who are addicted to gambling.



What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.
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Last edit: September 27, 2019, 12:18:22 PM by ScamViruS
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What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.

He/She says gambling money is dirty. Again, he/she is promoting the gambling website itself, meaning that the owner of the site is increasing revenue.

Is this gambling money dirty?

No.

This money is not stolen from anyone.

If you look religiously, then gambling and promoting gambling are the same.

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September 27, 2019, 01:19:02 PM
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When you have a clean hand then you no need to worry about where it comes from,only the person who give it to you will go to hell not you. Grin


This doesn't make any sense and it is hilarious for you to have this kind of mindset, so are you saying that if a drug lord gave you a huge amount of money, and you are innocent, do you think police would believe you that you are not really involve in some illegal activities? come on, don't make me laugh. Money that comes from any illegal activity, whether you are completely invisible to the authority still, it is consider to be a dirty money since gambling is illegal, no matter what you say about it, and technically, if you touch something dirty, then your hands would be dirty too.

And using these dirty money from gambling or any illegal activity would also make you a bad person that would go to hell even though you are not that one who made that money.
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September 27, 2019, 02:49:55 PM
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If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.

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September 27, 2019, 09:55:19 PM
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If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.

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September 27, 2019, 10:00:04 PM
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What is done @Renampun actually is not wrong and I do not justify. He only promotes gambling sites but doesn't play, in my opinion that's not wrong either and that could be probably right. In situations like this I am confused, because other people will have different points of view. whether the money we are promoting is dirty money or not.

He/She says gambling money is dirty. Again, he/she is promoting the gambling website itself, meaning that the owner of the site is increasing revenue.

Is this gambling money dirty?

No.

This money is not stolen from anyone.

If you look religiously, then gambling and promoting gambling are the same.


Gambling money is not stolen either. When you tell the other person the rules and that person still decides to play that's no theft!

What if the game was chess and you were playing for a trophy? It's not gambling and everyone would say that chess is ok. But what if 2 chess players put some money at stake? The winner would take it all and they would both know they're playing for money. Would that be theft and dirty money to you? I see nothing wrong in gambling as long as people are aware of the rules.
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If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.
Surely it’s important to stay in touch with your religion you will have to follow what your religion allows you. There are ruled that working hard never gives dirty money. While gambling just work with your skills and follow the rules given by the casino or by the site. Be happy if you see gambling is giving you money keep your mind clear and earn fairly.
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September 29, 2019, 09:22:21 PM
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I recognize some in a religious way forbid gambling by their followers and that might extend to a nation where the country is a religious state.   I wouldnt argue with those people and their desire to avoid any gambling business, it is their choice and belief to do so.
   However overall I dont look down upon any actual gambling myself, the reasoning I will give is from a finance perspective which is just that risk taking, unknown factors and variable judgement is a normal business decision that is a requirement in every economy.   The only bad gambling to me is where its deceptive and done as a trick then I'd agree it is unfair practice.
   Its possible for any person to lose large amounts in the risks of starting or running a business and by taking the wrong decisions, taking perhaps too much risk but hoping for profit.   We cannot avoid these things, the only good practise to always keep is only risk money you can afford to lose.   That would match the ban on borrowing money on some countries and that makes more sense to me, as that is good practise for a society generally.

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September 29, 2019, 10:07:22 PM
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Gambling money IMHO is only dirty if it was used to launder money from other sources but otherwise, it's money earned like in any other business.

People would spend their money on what they want and I believe they should be allowed unless they are harming others. Removing the outlet from gambling would just push these people towards other vices.

And just a few years ago, our Education Secretary shunned billions of state-funds because they are coming from gambling. She didn't think it moral and proper to buy books and even build classrooms using the dirty gambling money. [2]

Now that is just ridiculous. So she'd rather not have books and classrooms then?
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September 29, 2019, 10:17:38 PM
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If you are a worker and will play against other workers, then your money is clean. if a thief takes the money he steals and goes to play against person X and person X doesn't know that the money from the thief is dirty and person X wins the game and automatically gets the money of the thief, the money that person X win It can't be considered dirty. because person X made the money honestly and didn't know what the thief was doing. Many religious people don't have any morals to criticize gambling, I honestly don't see why we still have to follow certain laws and certain religious things. There are many things that need to change because they no longer make any sense.
That good analogy, money did not call dirty as long as this is come from in illegal way of earning. There are religion group that strictly prohibited gambling but if you are a member here don't encourage your self to gain profit in gambling instead, respect them and accept what is the law. However, AFAIK there are gambling sites that have a charity program that helps those are in need. So, I think there's no reason why the money that comes from gambling is dirty. The only dirty money is come from those who are making illegal transactions and make money.
Even this gambling sites do charity works the money that they've used is not belongs to their own pocket but from those addicted gamblers who loses controls and wrecked out of savings after dealing with gambling. There's no reason for this gambling Lord to do such things from there own expense. I'm not against though but pointing my opinion about what you have said.
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