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September 12, 2019, 08:16:04 AM
Last edit: September 12, 2019, 10:57:15 AM by izooomrud
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Hello, everybody.
Not too long ago, I had a problem with the Livecoin exchange and I voiced my concerns in a Russian branch of this exchange. Shortly after, I was insulted and wrongly accused many times by user vadi2323. This user give me red trust but later deleted that post.

For objective reasons, as described further in this post, I believe that this user is abusing the trust system, and also covers the con artists from the Livecoin Exchange. This is what he wrote in response to my first report about the stock exchange problems.

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You're misinformed. There was not 51%, but a specific error in the wallet code.

Although the stock exchange has already acknowledged the attack of 51% in the tickets.

Completely ignoring the official response of the representative of this exchange, he says:
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You are the one who’s misinformed. Look for the first post about this incident, it’s available in this topic. If this is a reply form the tech support, they wrote about it in a simple way, because it is complicated (and useless) to describe what really happened.
There were no statements from the exchange about any error in a code. You are lying.

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Create a separate thread about livecoin & monero because these posts are off topic.

What's he talking about? A person writes about his problem in the specific branch of the forum, and this guy says “create a separate thread”. He is always trying to distract from the issue.

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There's an axiom: if you going to get involved with the shitcoins - you better understand the greater level of risk. Dude, you're involving yourself with shitcoins, and when you lose them, you react by blackmailing the exchange. It's not nice.

He substitutes the facts. I didn't lose my coins, but the exchange stole/lost them and he accused me of blackmailing. In his opinion, if the exchange lost/stole your money and you want them to be accountable for it is called “blackmailing”, so genius.

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Why are you taking about something you don't understand?
Based on your messages, there are three possible answers:
Good (small chance) - you really don't understand what’s going on.
The average (moderate chance) - made yourself look like a fool, fucked up and realized it. Now tying to get out of it by all means with minimal losses of by using lies and blackmail.
Bad (not excluded) - he is involved with the creators of the attack and all that’s happening is just a show.

He is accusing me of talking nonsense, lying about a failed trading, assumed my involvement in the attack on the stock market.
Although I clearly indicated that the exchange lost my money due to lack of security.

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Let's forget about all of this for a minute, and just look at how they are treating their customers. To describe the whole situation in short, it looks like this:
[ I] the exchange blocked my account without any explanation, although it stated in the user agreement that they will give a warning first.
A week later I assumed that my account was blocked because I published my communication with their tech support. So I deleted all my posts and informed the exchange about this.
I had to wait a few more days until they finally replied to me ATTENTION: They wanted ME to look up for the reasons why my account was blocked in their user agreement.

Because you lie, lie, lie and lie. No matter what people say to you - - you don’t understand or do not agree, you always need to be told and shown, clearly explained and all things/facts need to be found for you, everything needs to be simplified for you to understand. Yet you still don't understand and blame the exchange. Everything is clear with you. You’re simply a charlatan, scoundrel and a blackmailer.

When you did not have enough arguments to advocate for the scammers, you started talking some schizophrenic nonsense. You never explained anything!
 
At the end, he just dumped all the shit on me without any reason.
Meanwhile, he writes posts about how good this exchange is.

~Translated~
Soon, I will start trading on this exchange on a permanent basis. User security measures implemented by the exchange left pleasant impressions on me. This is one of the best exchanges in this aspect.

~Translated~
This stock exchange is pretty good. The commission is tasty, I have not seen cheaper: Your Commerce Commission (recount once a day): 0.18%

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The bidding interface is very nice. One of the most convenient interfaces of all exchanges.

Here is a very interesting moment:

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I wanted to finish the comment, but didn't have enough time. 😊
Not a question, I will shut down Korner’s topic. You create a new one. I won't do it. I have been able to read the tweets from izoomomrud - http://Https://twitter. com/izooomrud/with _ replies (you need to login). And others 😊
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Is it essential to create a new or we can discuss it here without offtop?
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What's there to discuss? This crook wants to open Mona withdrawal by all means. As an option: during the attack the glass was empty and they filled it with garbage themselves. So to open withdrawing option (they will not open it just personally for him, "others” will also want to withdraw) - Livecoin will have to buy this shit on bittrex. If there's a "team of developers” involved, they re gonna kill two birds in one shot - will get rid of the trash and raise the market price at someone else’s expense. This is work of a professional.

The Xal0lex moderator claims that I have “yobit, hibtc and other’s scam in my Twitter”, and which other ones? Before I mentioned livecoin in my posts, I only wrote about 2 other exchanges that they were scam, and he is trying to add something else here. Xal0lex, you can dispute the fact that yobit is scam, or the fact that hitbtc scam (at the time that tweet was written that's exactly how it was), well then try and do it. Or you'll be as liar as Vadi2323.
And then, of course, Vadi2323 happily jumped in the discussion with the support of the moderator and brought his usual bullshit, again called me a crook Cheesy Then he said that I was trying to open deposit/withdrawal option and the rest of his standard bullshit.

Who did you have to spoon feed again?
To the fact that it was not necessary to deal with it from N different accounts (he already deleted other posts just this one that’s left).
And read the forum. You found how to create a flag and how to fool people in the English branch of the forum, but you could not figure out what how to do something useful (или beneficial) for yourself. People like this are called morons.
No results were achieved by him. Therefore, he began accusing me of the bounty chitter and accused me of lying in the English branch of the forum, but I never understood why. When he was asked to provide proof for such accusations he proved nothing again

And now this is his most interesting statement
Then paint both of them. The first one with his team for farming, blackmailing and hiding a scam. The second one — for being afraid of publicity, this is a usual scammer behavior.
He claims that the scammers are afraid of publicity, and this scam exchange was blackmailing me with my money for a month, so that I would delete everything I ever posted about them. So why hasn't he painted it yet?

But again, according to him, anyone who covers scam should be painted, and he clearly covers the exchange Livecoin.

Two flags were created against this exchange and he opposed them.

Also, the exchange created a second account, which also received the flag and Vadi2323 became against it once again.

Let's see who's handing over MERIT to the stock exchange.


He also writes a negative review to all who reports a problem with Livecoin in their branch like me.


etc.

I believe that the activities he is carrying out are bad for the community.
Also i propose to publish here all users who covered scams
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September 12, 2019, 08:21:48 AM
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It's a reputation board thread. Please move it there.

The one you posted as screenshot is removed and the current one I am seeing is this:



However, you are focusing too much to an untrusted feedback. It's not going to effect in your trust rating unless vadi2323 gets a spot in the DT network.

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September 12, 2019, 08:36:19 AM
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It's clear that Vadi2323 is defending Livecoin exchange. That's what I have understood from your thread. Besides, any other purpose? He is manipulating the feedback system by neg tag users who complain against Livecoin, that's not a good behavior but feedback isn't moderated, so you can't do anything.
Merit issue is barely affecting his reputation, it proves nothing. These days merit has become opinion base reward, not quality base.

Off topic, some people are advertising Livecoin but I wonder they talked a lot against Livecoin and ethics some days ago.

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September 17, 2019, 06:30:13 PM
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you quote his post that make two months ago, why are you talking about discussions made two months ago? I understand that you are still nonconformist about your loss. But staying in this forum and discussing the same problem, is wast of time. each person defending things that be beneficial to them, you can blame this guy. but look at the forum and look all members, you will understand that this guy is just one more person doing what many people do more skillfully

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September 18, 2019, 06:39:27 PM
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The feedback you received from Vadi2323 isn't even counted as a trusted feedback therefore it is hidden in your account and won't reflect anything in your future trades, his negative feedback is good as a hearsay on his part there is really no point in fighting it because it won't have any bearing in your reputation. The only chance it will get removed if he gets a negative feedback as well from DTs which the red tag will reflect on his account. But like I said there won't be any bearing to your account like the negative feedback you have sent to him, this will be solve if a DT member steps in and side on who he thinks is right. But if I have a negative untrusted feedback as well it won't really bother me that much.
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September 18, 2019, 07:48:24 PM
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The feedback you received from Vadi2323 isn't even counted as a trusted feedback therefore it is hidden in your account and won't reflect anything in your future trades, his negative feedback is good as a hearsay on his part there is really no point in fighting it because it won't have any bearing in your reputation. The only chance it will get removed if he gets a negative feedback as well from DTs which the red tag will reflect on his account. But like I said there won't be any bearing to your account like the negative feedback you have sent to him, this will be solve if a DT member steps in and side on who he thinks is right. But if I have a negative untrusted feedback as well it won't really bother me that much.
Timestamps...Vadi2323's -ve feedback was visible as they were DT2. It was countered and later removed because Vadi2323 has been removed from DT and Vadi232 got "neutral comment" for trust abuse and I got retaliatory neutral because of that comment:



I want to suggest OP what I have already suggested them, ignore this livecoin shill account and don't engage into any conversations with them, "you will never win battle against shill account".
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September 20, 2019, 07:21:01 AM
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Not surprised about @Vadi2323's actions. He's a livecoin shill and probably part of them or at least paid to shill for them.
His abuse of trust system for his own propaganda shouldn't go unnoticed thou.

According to http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/399366.html
He even went ahead to distrust every single member who supported the flags against livecoin. Not that he does not have the right to do what he wants with his custom trust list but this clearly portrays the kind of person Vadi2323 is and should never be trusted.

More details from http://loyce.club

Trust list for: Vadi2323 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h)
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Vadi2323 Trusts:
1. BigBobo (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (24 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. nutildah (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 1258 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. LiveCoin (Trust: !!!:  +4 / =0 / -7) (17 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (462 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. kzv (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (3) 366 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. madnessteat (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (2) 458 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Ratimov (Trust: neutral) (78 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Vadi2323 Distrusts:
1. ~malevolent (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 187 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. ~Vod (Trust: +28 / =2 / -2) (DT1! (23) 1290 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. ~Foxpup (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (3) 557 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. ~subSTRATA (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (43 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. ~figmentofmyass (Trust: neutral) (376 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. ~2double0 (Trust: neutral) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. ~mindrust (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (1) 549 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. ~Hueristic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (233 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. ~cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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13. ~Patatas (Trust: neutral) (105 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
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38. ~DireWolfM14 (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 743 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. ~Zwei (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (178 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. ~mikeywith (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1164 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. ~YOSHIE (Trust: neutral) (142 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. ~izooomrud (Trust: neutral) (41 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Vadi2323 is Trusted by:
1. johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (462 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. kzv (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (3) 366 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. mrbanjo (Trust: neutral) (3 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. 3meek (Trust: neutral) (134 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. AlphaOM (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. DabLjat (Trust: neutral) (52 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. G.Butryk Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Vadi2323 is Distrusted by:
1. mindrust (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (1) 549 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. Hueristic (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (233 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. suchmoon (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (45) 2904 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (11) 1066 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 693 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. DarkStar_ (Trust: +36 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (27) 975 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. TheFuzzStone (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 600 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. xtraelv (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (24) 1249 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. be.open (Trust: neutral) (231 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 2592 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 881 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 736 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)



Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.
Trust list: backstabbers: users disagree, one user trust the other, while the other distrust him.


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

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September 20, 2019, 08:07:21 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2019, 09:07:51 AM by Vadi2323
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According to http://loyce.club/trust/2019-09-14_Sat_06.11h/399366.html
He even went ahead to distrust every single member who supported the flags against livecoin. Not that he does not have the right to do what he wants with his custom trust list but this clearly portrays the kind of person Vadi2323 is and should never be trusted...

Does anyone support scammers, trolls, shitposters? Making damage of russian board bitcointalk? Welcome to my untrust list!

...He's a livecoin shill and probably part of them or at least paid to shill for them...

Simply call me "💰💰💰 boss 💰💰💰".
How much Windice pay you for your signature spamming on the forum?
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September 20, 2019, 09:24:51 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2019, 09:36:47 AM by lovesmayfamilis
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Not surprised about @Vadi2323's actions. He's a livecoin shill and probably part of them or at least paid to shill for them.
His abuse of trust system for his own propaganda shouldn't go unnoticed thou.



I don’t understand how a person like Vadi2323 can be a Russian Merit source.
He is very rude, and it is not surprising that so many people do not trust him. He gives merit only to those people who are on his trust list, or to those who always agree with his point of view.
Look at the last posts that he considered deserved. I did not see another source of merit on the forum, which would be so disrespectful to others.

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September 20, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
Last edit: September 20, 2019, 10:15:09 AM by Vadi2323
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I don’t understand how a person like Vadi2323 can be a Russian Merit source.
He is very rude, and it is not surprising that so many people do not trust him. He gives merit only to those people who are on his trust list, or to those who always agree with his point of view.
Look at the last posts that he considered deserved. I did not see another source of merit on the forum, which would be so disrespectful to others.

Fortunately, it’s not like you to decide. Your dissatisfaction with me is caused by my criticism of your opposition to the person who published the list of account dealers in the Russian locale (sounds fun but it's not a joke). Can you say that it's not true? Your message here once again shows who you really are.

I will no longer leave comments here. Good luck to everybody with the conversation with izooomrud.
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September 20, 2019, 02:43:57 PM
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I will no longer leave comments here. Good luck to everybody with the conversation with izooomrud.
Hey, wow, grand scam defender is here now!
And now he has a very interesting signature, and I continue to accumulate merit to put a signature even better, such as this

 Grin

I also want to tell everyone who did not understand why this post was written - I want to show that not only scammers like livecoin are harmful to the community, but to a greater extent their defenders like vadi2323!
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September 25, 2019, 03:24:29 AM
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He is very rude, and it is not surprising that so many people do not trust him. He gives merit only to those people who are on his trust list, or to those who always agree with his point of view.

Yep, and about those who are against his opinion, he writes this

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Do not remind me of suchmoon, I am still not able to be nice from his merit of the izooomrud farm with a rising rank. Freak corrupt

You want to be a Wolf from Wall Street, but in reality you are an ordinary clown


Simply call me "💰💰💰 boss 💰💰💰".

I will call you - "💩💩💩 boss-huesos 💩💩💩".  Grin


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