What is happening to new projects?

[kaneki007]

Indeed, most projects only want to get funds quickly and after that there is no development about their products. And this makes investors hesitant to invest their money because besides being afraid of not getting ROI and projects they are participating don't list on any exchangers

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[sehoon]

What's making you say that these projects are actually good? I've seen some projects in 2018 that actually made good money. Or you're just mistaken them for good projects even though they're really bad? If they are a really good project, don't lose hope because they might perform in the next few years when the green market comes.

[CleverOracle]

Indeed, most projects only want to get funds quickly and after that there is no development about their products. And this makes investors hesitant to invest their money because besides being afraid of not getting ROI and projects they are participating don't list on any exchangers

New or old projects have no real use case and investors already know about this which making them to stop investing in new projects and later on no matter how good the project is, they have difficulty reaching their softcap because only few investors now that are willing to take the risk.

[enwi]

at this time a lot of new projects are popping up and it makes us have to be more careful in choosing projects because not a few projects that fail especially with the current market conditions, I think it will be difficult to make the project can develop, so think it wise to invest in new projects

[asus09]

there are no new problems that happen there because most new projects only want quick profits without regard to investors after they get a lot of funds there. so i guess it is not surprising why many new projects are created just to die, even though softcap is not achieved but at least they have benefited even though not much, in contrast to good projects at least they will continue to strive for projects to continue to grow even though growth is slow

Quick profit by new project make them have lower price at the future and hard get back to higher price, I think for new project already list with exchange market keep stable price for long term and source media information about new project active every day to make investor keep trusted with their coin and always have potential to be on higher price.

[Spaffin]

I think that a lot of factors influence the project development results and the most important among these factors are the professionalism and priorities of the team.  The team should work on their project, and not set themselves the main goal to make big profits.  In addition, it is necessary to take into account the fact that the project ideas can be interesting, but there are enough competitors on the cryptocurrency market and the most important thing is the relevance of the project in society, on which its future prospects and reputation will depend.

[IadixDev]

The thing i never understand about ICO and buying token or coin as an investment to HODL expecting a ROI on it.

It's made to look similar to share holding in a company, but it's a completely different mechanism. Share prices in a company can rise because share is a % of the company capital, and when the company make profits, and rise it's capital, the share value increase.

But token are not a share, they are not a %, and even in the case of a 'good' project, that attract users and market, there is no connection between this and the price of coin on exchange. Especially that the main value of blockchain is a property transfer system, if all the coins/token are sold in an ICO and held by investor, it mean the blockchain is essentially frozen and useless. And if there is a huge speculation on the future price of the coin, nobody is going to use it as payment and the blockchain is essentially stall and useless.

In a 'regular' companies with fund rising through share, the company has an actual product to sell to customer with a profits, when the share holding agreement is made, nothing is really sold yet, it's just a paper that says the share holder will own a certain % of the profits made by selling the future product.

With ICO it seems the main product of the blockchain is the token, and they sell it all during the initial phase, and all the value is already extracted from the company at this point, and they have nothing else to sell.

ICO would make sense as a legal agreement that the funder are bound to hold a certain % of all the profits made using the blockchain, like if all transaction contain a fees distributed to the share holder, as the product of blockchain are the transactions, it's the price should be to fit with regular share holding model where owning a share can make profits, but the good model of funding is not really found yet IMO, other than going through the regular institution for the legal backing and more flexible agreements than what can be made using tokens sales.

I really don't understand how people who buy coin or token see it rise, other than riding a bull run in a pump and dump and selling at the right time scamming others who are going to buy it higher.

Essentially i really don't get it how people expect a token or coin doing x 10 or even x 2, even in case there is a rock solid team who deliver a successful product at the end, who is used by millions of people and in the economy, the price of the token is still not going to rise much.

Even bitcoin nobody can really explain why the value got so high, there is no usual "rational" reason for it to jump from 1$ to 6000$, there is no real economic for this.

The only thing that can make the coin rise if is a whale start a pump with huge funds, but in this case, the creation of value come from the whales pumping it, not from the product, either the product is successful or not. Even if there is a company behind, the benefits are going to end on the company account, and won't make the token price rise in itself.

Initially crypto were interesting because of perspective of decentralization, now it become all about people wanting to ride bull run and pump and dump on centralized exchange, which you could do even without any blockchain at all, and then calling developer greedy because they want to make profits, it's a bit the pot calling the kettle black.

I really don't get it by which mechanism people think the token will rise on value in exchange based on the success of the product itself. Especially if all the tokens that are supposed to be the main use of the blockchain are stuck in HODLers expecting it to go the moon.

On the other side there are all the private blockchain companies, who actually sell product to real company or solve IT issues in real economy, and they have zero token on exchanges, token are tied to the business logic of the company, and not sold with huge speculative promise in the future.

i've seen many people discussing this same issue, and i never got a really clear answer on how this ROI is supposed to happen when buying a token, even if the team is real and the project successful is the sense useful, used in real economy, by merchant or that other business are actually using it.

It's why this question of what make a project good, it depend what you expect of it, if you expect doing a huge profit on exchange, then any coin can do even without a blockchain on centralized site with whales playing pump and dump to keep the traders busy.

If it's about use in the economy, or about promoting decentralization, then i really don't see how the token price can do x10 or X1000 because it's getting used as currency or asset in another business or because it get millions of users. I really don't see how people correlate a project 'success' with price being pumped on exchanges. The two are completely orthogonal to me. Token are not a share in a company, there is zero legal obligation to anything, and there is no direct correlation between a project success and parabolic rising of the token price.

People saying this few year back were called FUDers and non believers, or like the price is supposed to do a x1000 "like bitcoin", but even bitcoin nobody can really explain how the price got so high, or why it would move up or down. So i really don't get it what people expect from crypto project nowday, other than them being pumped up by a whale and selling at the good moment to the good pigeon.

[Apened]

What the *eck is going on? we have many good projects coming into crypto space but they mostly end up failing, too many good new projects are dying as if they are been created to just die, what do you think its killing new good projects apart from scam projects?

The main reason was not all crypto projects can survive in the market knowingly , that they need to pay for the office , team and employees even though we can say that they raise huge money but it is not enough if they only rely on the project without a knowledge or putting some of their money into investments. Some other projects are taking their time to build it will takes years for the real product that how their project will be build . Always tak a look on every roadmap.

[MRY]

in the current conditions it might be difficult to start a project and many projects fail so many investors are disappointed and feel cheated, so we should be more careful in investing in new projects that are full of risk

[huige007]

The liquidity of a project is determined by investors, so it's useless even if the project with an interesting concept or new innovation but investors are not interested in the project, then it fails. lately I have seen a lot of projects that did not arrive at the soft cap, this year is very different, 2017 is the culmination of everything. the current trend of the IEO project is like that of the binance exchange, and it also depends on who is analyzing it and who sees it.

Investors determine the success of a project, so when a good project with a mature concept, but if there is less marketing to attract investors, failure will occur. this often happens due to lack of marketing team preparation, problems like this should be used as experience for the project developer to be able to run the project and make it a chance for the success of the new project

With new projects, there are two big challenges. First, they need not to be scam. As most of the market is about frauds so people hesitate trying out new stuff. Second is, providing a feature that is not being offered by existing project. Both need some strong devotion and passion to overcome.
Investors should try those new coins that get listed on famous exchanges and invest in old coins.

[maianh09]

new project is fine, nothing wrong, but the issue is people are not interested in kind of IEC, ICO sh*t anymore,
so much scams, and pointless project, born to scam. or if not, it still be abandoned after few months.
if I have money left, into ICO will be the last thing on earth I do

Nowadays it is very difficult to get a project that is really high quality or at least can give us the appropriate payment when we participate in campaigns or we participate in token sales, maybe new projects are starting to slow down due to the increasing number of scam projects, fewer investors will enter to a new project. I think more about entering into trade than having to enter into iCO projects that are not clear.

Most of the ideas about cryptocurrencies have been reflected in the projects that hosted the ICO. they are starting to run out of ideas and the downturn of the crypto market worries big and small investors.
New projects will not have enough money to develop a project. therefore, the possibility of success of new projects is very low. If they have a specific product launched, they can get an investment. Or only when the market returns, can they raise capital successfully.

[Taufik blackspade team]

in the current conditions it might be difficult to start a project and many projects fail so many investors are disappointed and feel cheated, so we should be more careful in investing in new projects that are full of risk

Investor markets are now turning to trading and investing assets that are already circulating in the market. for a new project maybe as you said it will have difficulty in getting support from investors. building trust will be very difficult. but if the developer succeeds in providing the confidence needed it will be good. but I think we can only see this in a few projects.

[govorrue]

This is why not only hype matters, but analysis. I mean, from my point of view, it is very important not to just follow the trend, but also conduct own research and evaluate the solution personally

[volport]

This is why not only hype matters, but analysis. I mean, from my point of view, it is very important not to just follow the trend, but also conduct own research and evaluate the solution personally

I fully agree with you on that. Even though, there are many people who don't evaluate something on their own. I mean the might be watching the ratings and coming to the conclusion that the token will grow and solution will be in higher demand. However I would say that there are much more points that requires attention - practical value, adoption, prospects, industry standards and else

[govorrue]

I fully agree with you on that. Even though, there are many people who don't evaluate something on their own. I mean the might be watching the ratings and coming to the conclusion that the token will grow and solution will be in higher demand. However I would say that there are much more points that requires attention - practical value, adoption, prospects, industry standards and else

I am having similar opinion. By the way, are there many advanced platforms you can recommend to have a look at? Of course, interested in the ones that meet requirements you've just outlined

[volport]

I am having similar opinion. By the way, are there many advanced platforms you can recommend to have a look at? Of course, interested in the ones that meet requirements you've just outlined

Nope, not many. The most advanced one for me these days is Housinet - have you heard of it already? Basically, an ultimate solution on property management industry that combines many tools for landlords, people who want to rent the house and more. Kinda helps to get much more from just renting the properties with collecting a lot of different metrics, analyzing downtimes etc

[govorrue]

Nope, not many. The most advanced one for me these days is Housinet - have you heard of it already? Basically, an ultimate solution on property management industry that combines many tools for landlords, people who want to rent the house and more. Kinda helps to get much more from just renting the properties with collecting a lot of different metrics, analyzing downtimes etc

Sounds interesting, seems that I have already heard of Housinet from someone, but will definitely check out more shortly. Thanks for the recommendation!

[Mila52]

The thing i never understand about ICO and buying token or coin as an investment to HODL expecting a ROI on it.

It's made to look similar to share holding in a company, but it's a completely different mechanism. Share prices in a company can rise because share is a % of the company capital, and when the company make profits, and rise it's capital, the share value increase.

Why is it so pessimistic about all projects and cryptocurrencies? The cryptocurrency market is very young and that is why speculation and scams  flourish here.Of course many projects had stupidly collecting money and running away, deceiving investors. But there are projects  that give a real product-sale goods, services, energy capacities for miners. I met such projects. Their tokens have a price, an investor can always sell their coins. So the principle of partner and shareholder is real and works in cryptocurrency market.

[superstrength]

New good projects are also in the danger zone, except for any projects. these projects can die at any time like scams. You try to notice that.

[kodtycoon]

in the current conditions it might be difficult to start a project and many projects fail so many investors are disappointed and feel cheated, so we should be more careful in investing in new projects that are full of risk

Investor markets are now turning to trading and investing assets that are already circulating in the market. for a new project maybe as you said it will have difficulty in getting support from investors. building trust will be very difficult. but if the developer succeeds in providing the confidence needed it will be good. but I think we can only see this in a few projects.

the developer will not be able to give more confidence to investors, because investors will have their own beliefs about related projects and in this case at least investors will be more careful to put their money in, because it's useless when there are new projects that don't have long term products, then in the end it will make it more difficult for the project to get investors