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Pleeeaaassssseeee stop dredging up these old, zombie threads.
No. This is many times more interesting to read than 95% of the new posts. agreed, most recent posts are full of trolls, the old treads are much more interesting, and since the market is a cycle, it's always relevant.
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February 10, 2015, 08:19:01 PM |
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Pleeeaaassssseeee stop dredging up these old, zombie threads.
No. This is many times more interesting to read than 95% of the new posts. agreed, most recent posts are full of trolls, the old treads are much more interesting, and since the market is a cycle, it's always relevant. Exactly this. The price action is kind of boring lately, but the history helps shape perspective around it.
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February 10, 2015, 08:22:18 PM |
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Here's a thought as new mining operations come on line there is an increase in the need to cover investment and overhead.
That translates to selling new Bitcoin's the result is a drop in price and selling of more Bitcoin.
When this turns around and we have an increase as those same miners can afford to hold Bitcoin's back pushing the price up.
If this is happening on any scale coins now are being sold at a discount and the wealth transfer is going to subsidies the mining backbone of Bitcoin.
And the true squeeze will come in the latter half of 2016. But whenever it happens supply will be limited from the mining side and come from the limited savings side.
I have been thinking the same thing for awhile. The latest ramp that started in early 2013 aligns with when the first ASICs started to hit the market. ASIC miners were so profitable that anyone running them only needed to sell a small fraction of their mined BTC to cover electricity & costs. Once the majority of total mining went to ASIC miners, the supply of mined coins dried up, and so up went the price. A year later and difficulty finally caught up, and today miners have to sell a good portion of their mined BTC to cover electricity & costs. So the supply of mined coins rose back up a the same time as the price stagnated and fell. Over time the supply of mined coins will re-drop according to the schedule. The price action the last time the supply of mined BTC reduced, is a good predictor of what will happen when the supply of mined BTC is reduced by the schedule. I think this is what is happening, at some scale, I just haven't mustered up the courage to buy at this price, most of my energy has gone into support at a price well above here. I think my trigger will be how the majority of devs handle the proposed Blockstream soft fork, in the meantime I'm hoping there are new market leaders making roots.
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February 10, 2015, 08:24:47 PM |
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I'm hoping to go back in the $1's soon so I can make a big buy. I think a lot of people are going to do that and it is going to skyrocket real fast after it hits the bottom whatever that may be.
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February 10, 2015, 08:25:55 PM |
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I'm hoping to go back in the $1's soon so I can make a big buy. I think a lot of people are going to do that and it is going to skyrocket real fast after it hits the bottom whatever that may be.
I think you're correct in the second assumption about people buying in when we find the bottom. I think you're incorrect to hope that it will be anywhere close to $1.
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February 10, 2015, 08:32:40 PM |
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Just curious as to your thoughts on this recent decline in trading price. Manipulated? Bound to happen, nature of Bitcoin? Are we heading to $1.00 BTC soon ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) Thanks for your insights. SJ I don't think so , I think bitcoin price will be 200-220 for a long time ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Totally agree very unlikely to return to $1 per bitcoin ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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February 10, 2015, 08:35:57 PM |
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I love that this old thread from 2011 has been resurrected, it can put things into prospective of where we're at right now. I find myself supporting the fall and waiting for the rise. The question is how much of my bank balance supports the fall before I need the rise to happen
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February 10, 2015, 08:43:11 PM |
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I'm hoping to go back in the $1's soon so I can make a big buy. I think a lot of people are going to do that and it is going to skyrocket real fast after it hits the bottom whatever that may be.
I think instead of that low being a $ , people will go crazy buying even if it touches a 100$
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February 10, 2015, 08:43:27 PM |
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everyone should go back and look at the mtgox chart bottom time frame for this period in 2011. it lasted about one month before drifting back up to btwn $4-5 for another 6 mo.
we're almost to one month right now for this current bottom.
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February 10, 2015, 08:54:57 PM |
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I'm hoping to go back in the $1's soon so I can make a big buy. I think a lot of people are going to do that and it is going to skyrocket real fast after it hits the bottom whatever that may be.
I think you're correct in the second assumption about people buying in when we find the bottom. I think you're incorrect to hope that it will be anywhere close to $1. I meant $1's as in $100's which $100 might happen.
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February 10, 2015, 09:03:02 PM |
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everyone should go back and look at the mtgox chart bottom time frame for this period in 2011. it lasted about one month before drifting back up to btwn $4-5 for another 6 mo.
we're almost to one month right now for this current bottom.
And, like back in late 2011, I would feel more comfortable with one more down-leg below the recent bottom to set up for the next upward cycle. We didn't get it back in the day and things worked out OK anyway.
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sig spam anywhere and self-moderated threads on the pol&soc board are for losers.
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February 10, 2015, 09:42:09 PM |
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everyone should go back and look at the mtgox chart bottom time frame for this period in 2011. it lasted about one month before drifting back up to btwn $4-5 for another 6 mo.
we're almost to one month right now for this current bottom.
And, like back in late 2011, I would feel more comfortable with one more down-leg below the recent bottom to set up for the next upward cycle. We didn't get it back in the day and things worked out OK anyway. The blowoff is taking longer this time, so I wouldn't be surprised if we sit in this range for a month or two longer than in 2011. But take that with my usual "I'm not a trader!" caveats to any non-multiyear comments I make...
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February 10, 2015, 10:51:19 PM |
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That is a hilarious thread, thanks for resurrecting it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I think there was a $1 bitcoin, wasn't there? So OP was right. I am pissed I did not buy these expensive $2.25 bitcoins (didnt know about it ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) ) So could it be that we see $100 bitcoins and people buying them at 220 now, will still be OK in 5 years? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 10, 2015, 11:33:13 PM |
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Sitarrow do you think this scenario is same? I know its not totally same, but do you think bitcoin will make it like always did? Need to help restore my faith sometimes from true bitcoiners ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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February 10, 2015, 11:39:55 PM Last edit: February 11, 2015, 05:15:58 PM by NotHatinJustTrollin |
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Sitarrow do you think this scenario is same? I know its not totally same, but do you think bitcoin will make it like always did? Need to help restore my faith sometimes from true bitcoiners ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Restore your faith with this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=470453.msg10378876#msg10378876 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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February 11, 2015, 05:34:25 AM |
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so $2 to $1200 is 600x, then 600x$200 is what? 12,000?
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February 11, 2015, 05:42:15 AM Last edit: February 11, 2015, 06:00:28 AM by RyNinDaCleM |
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everyone should go back and look at the mtgox chart bottom time frame for this period in 2011. it lasted about one month before drifting back up to btwn $4-5 for another 6 mo.
we're almost to one month right now for this current bottom.
This correction is already almost 3x as long as the 2011 correction. I would expect the bottom lull to be 3x as long too. In about a month or so, we get that retest of lows and a couple of weeks after that, we head toward $7.22 (x100) Edit: MtGox hit $1.994 ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmHqpc1J.png&t=665&c=aM7ZvsQKBzcdDQ)
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February 11, 2015, 05:45:31 AM |
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so $2 to $1200 is 600x, then 600x$200 is what? 12,000?
I think you're missing a zero ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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February 11, 2015, 05:51:02 AM |
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so $2 to $1200 is 600x, then 600x$200 is what? 12,000?
I think you're missing a zero ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) two or three even? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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