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September 21, 2019, 08:39:39 PM
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THE BOT
The bot has been fully built from scratch by myself. It has 6 different algos running at once, 3 for breakouts and 3 for fast scalping. The algos talk to each other in order to make always the best decision. A trade is entered only when statistical data shows at least 80% winning rate. The bot is built with a strong money management system. Remember, a 100% winning rate is impossible, but a 80% with strong money management is more than enough to earn huge profits and exploit the compound effect. I can't guarantee a fixed amount of ROI since every month is different, but we never closed a month in loss.

He didn't exactly say the words "guaranteed returns" in his OP but this is the closest thing to it which is also promising the user he won't end the month with a loss. Of course this is enough for me to support the flag as well as give him my red tag. I just don't want the members here in the forum be fooled by these kinds of services, he also promised an 80% "winning rate" without showing any record or proofs with previous trades is absolutely unbelievable.

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September 21, 2019, 09:54:20 PM
Last edit: November 30, 2019, 04:42:05 PM by CryptoSparks
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Well, just discovered this thread.

I would like to thank eddie13 and TECSHARE that at least approached my business with a doubt, and not the certainty of me being a scammer because "making money with bots and markets is impossible".

I won't go over the accusations posted in this thread because i replied to all of them in Meta, with knowledge,data and reputable sources.( just want to add that i never asked money to suchmoon, i asked her to deposit on her account and to test the bot for free, i would have paid her vps)

The point is clear to everyone, the rule is guilty until proven innocent, and once you prove yourself to be innocent.. that's not enough either.


I've posted every single trade since i opened the thread, they are collapsed because the same users that i roasted keep reporting all my post, and even though the ups are legit they get deleted if i don't collapse them. There is a public api key. There are 600 trades of backtest, which are mandatory for any serious bot. I'm sorry if i don't have 20 months of data in the demo account if the bot was made during august.

The funny thing is that not even a technical impossibility of scamming, 100% win rate, almost 30 real and accessible trades in less than 3 weeks, all the infographics, onepager ecc. were enough to avoid the scam and ponzi accusations.


I would also like to add... anything that is clearly not related to Arakne, is from a previous bot which is not a market maker but a swing trading bot that is no longer being offered.
Since Arakne is bulletproof, you had to dig up to a dead june thread to find something to attack . Also congrats, for promoting casinos in your signature while faking to be worried about other's safety. pathetic  

Lastly i would like to clarify by background, and why a translator popped out of nowhere with a bot that is publicly killing it.

When i started the translations jobs, i always pointed out that


I Only Deliver Top Quality Translations.
I'm a Freelance Designer and Indie Developer.



And i don't regret any of the ton shit of garbage i had to translate, firstly because i got a few gems that helped me out, secondly because that journey allowed me to build a lot of connections that last until these days. I don't get why the translation job is being discriminated, the pays are more or less equal to high rank signatures, but without being forced to post trash.



About FruitBaskets, he's a great guy and i thank him so much for the support. i know he's a dev, but he didn't had any part in the development of Arakne. He was lucky enough to see my thread very early and gave it a shot. His opinion is the only one that should matter, since he tested the bot since the very launch. If you see the screenshot balance he posted, his roi is even 5% higher than the demo account, simply because the demo got created 1 day after the launch and missed a trade.



Finally, i understand that there are so many fucking scams in here that everyone is just rushing to call for scam at any occasion.
I only asked for DYOR. I provided every kind of info or evidence possible because i knew this would have happened. Very few even read my thread, and is easily understandable by the feedback they left.

The meta thread was a trap for a very common animal living in this forum, and it worked partially.
I got a lot of attention, a bunch of people that started the testing with 100$ and even met an amazing user that surprising covered most of the 5 btc of funds we were looking for to manage on bitcointalk. Just to let you understand the level of this forum , the guy expressly said to leave his name out of the whole shitstorm because he's scared of people targetting his account too.
What didn't work is the amount of shit i received, now i always have to explain to people why i have all kind of red warnings   Grin

Bicointalk is dying slowly, most of smart people are gone... and don't fucking wonder why.
What is left is hunters spamming, trolls, lots of scammers, and big ranks promoting all kind of casino and games.
Ah, i forgot there are even girls you can pay for btc to have sex on skype, they are allowed to run their business though...

 

So what's next for Arakne and CryptoSparks?
For Arakne:
Since we reached our cap today, Arakne's subscriptions will be closed on monday, simply because there's the promo still on. But don't worry, API KEY will still be available and the trades will still be posted.

For CryptoSparks:
Roasting and Roasting on the horizon. Since Arakne is all set, on October you guys will be so lucky to see my second bot, Phoenix. If you though 500% roi in 20 months was impossible........... well.. don't wanna spoiler.  we will have so much fun  Grin

ps. i wonder why the other devs are on my side , while the opposition is made by pure ignorance.



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September 25, 2019, 06:16:43 AM
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As always, first they yell scam/ponzi, give red trust, open flags.. all without having the necessary knowledge to understand the technical workflow of our business model or even 1 piece of evidence against us.

Then when they receive the answers, pooof. disappeared.

That's why "spineless".
Grin

Never bend the knees if you are running a legit business. Let the facts and your clients talk for your business and exploit the visibility that trolls give you.
Hopefully our story will teach something.  

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As always, first they yell scam/ponzi, give red trust, open flags.. all without having the necessary knowledge to understand the technical workflow of our business model or even 1 piece of evidence against us.

Then when they receive the answers, pooof. disappeared.

That's why "spineless".
Grin

Never bend the knees if you are running a legit business. Let the facts and your clients talk for your business and exploit the visibility that trolls give you.
Hopefully our story will teach something.  


As has been pointed out to you several times already, you are a habitual liar incapable of honestly representing yourself and your services. Despite your massive arrogance and litany of unsubstantiated, over-the-top claims, you've only managed to actually demonstrate that you've made winning trades equaling to $11 across the span of 20 days. Had you made these trades for you clients they would currently be sitting on a loss, thanks to owing you 30% of their profits + a $10 a month "VPN fee".

Why are you charging every client this fee anyway? The more clients you have, the less the fee should be for each one.

Every time you speak you raise more questions than you can provide answers for.

Your one defender in this thread didn't even bother to oppose the flag against you. Shows you how much support you actually have here.



I don't see cryptohunter err tecshare's name on here, do you?

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As always, first they yell scam/ponzi, give red trust, open flags.. all without having the necessary knowledge to understand the technical workflow of our business model or even 1 piece of evidence against us.

Then when they receive the answers, pooof. disappeared.

That's why "spineless".
Grin

Never bend the knees if you are running a legit business. Let the facts and your clients talk for your business and exploit the visibility that trolls give you.
Hopefully our story will teach something.  


As has been pointed out to you several times already, you are a habitual liar incapable of honestly representing yourself and your services. Despite your massive arrogance and litany of unsubstantiated, over-the-top claims, you've only managed to actually demonstrate that you've made winning trades equaling to $11 across the span of 20 days. Had you made these trades for you clients they would currently be sitting on a loss, thanks to owing you 30% of their profits + a $10 a month "VPN fee".

Why are you charging every client this fee anyway? The more clients you have, the less the fee should be for each one.

Every time you speak you raise more questions than you can provide answers for.

Your one defender in this thread didn't even bother to oppose the flag against you. Shows you how much support you actually have here.



I don't see cryptohunter err tecshare's name on here, do you?

So now some ones innocence or guilt is determined by how many people defend them? This is the popularity contest I was speaking of previously in addition to the burden of being judged guilty until proven innocent. Not only do people have to prove themselves innocent to the mob, but if they don't grovel sufficiently it doesn't matter how much they prove  their innocence. Plenty of people have no one defend them even when they did nothing wrong simply based on the fact that they don't want to be the next target of the mob for daring to contradict them, exactly like is being done to FruitBasket.
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September 25, 2019, 10:00:35 AM
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As always, first they yell scam/ponzi, give red trust, open flags.. all without having the necessary knowledge to understand the technical workflow of our business model or even 1 piece of evidence against us.

Then when they receive the answers, pooof. disappeared.

That's why "spineless".
Grin

Never bend the knees if you are running a legit business. Let the facts and your clients talk for your business and exploit the visibility that trolls give you.
Hopefully our story will teach something.  


As has been pointed out to you several times already, you are a habitual liar incapable of honestly representing yourself and your services. Despite your massive arrogance and litany of unsubstantiated, over-the-top claims, you've only managed to actually demonstrate that you've made winning trades equaling to $11 across the span of 20 days. Had you made these trades for you clients they would currently be sitting on a loss, thanks to owing you 30% of their profits + a $10 a month "VPN fee".

Why are you charging every client this fee anyway? The more clients you have, the less the fee should be for each one.

Every time you speak you raise more questions than you can provide answers for.

Your one defender in this thread didn't even bother to oppose the flag against you. Shows you how much support you actually have here.



I don't see cryptohunter err tecshare's name on here, do you?


Can anyone believe how ignorant a person can be ?  What he's assuming is that 33 wins in a row and +15% would have been a losing investment which is totally false because we require at least 100$ as starting bankroll. That would have been 5$ profit considering the 10$ of monthly vps fee. But is not that the point. The point is that trading is all about %. And we wouldn't have even taken 5$ as commissions since is basically equal to a btc transaction fee. Our pay in a similar situation would be a new happy client that after a positive month of testing is ready to deposit a bigger bankroll.

 I will just post the replies he already received.


Wow, you made $11.33 in 20 days, that's terrific!  Cheesy
Watch out everybody, a market maker star is born!  Wink

It would appear that the majority ALL of your trades were positive, so that is commendable.

However, if you charge your clients 30% of the profits + a $10 VPN fee, while conducting the same trades for them via API, that means they are sitting on a net loss of $2.40. Maybe you can squeak out a few more trades before the end of the month to put them back at a net zero.

Buddy why you can't accept we are legit?

The profits are in term of ROI %. With 100$ in the account you will never get rich with 20% per month on avg.
The 100$ mark exists so the entry barrier is low, the people can test it and if they like it they deposit a real bankroll

The higher the bankroll, the higher the profit. Is simple math.

MarketMaking with 100$ is a joke even though still profitable thanks to compound, people with very low bankrolls should try our upcoming swing trading
bot  Grin


Wow, you made $11.33 in 20 days, that's terrific!  Cheesy
Watch out everybody, a market maker star is born!  Wink

It would appear that the majority of your trades were positive, so that is commendable.

However, if you charge your clients 30% of the profits + a $10 VPN fee, while conducting the same trades for them via API, that means they are sitting on a net loss of $2.40. Maybe you can squeak out a few more trades before the end of the month to put them back at a net zero.
U have to think percentage wise lol. Anyway you are probably jealous and don' t know how his bot works and how Bitmex works.



The only ones that are at loss are the people that go betting by clicking on your signature. THE BTC you get paid everyweek come from REKT people. SHAME. SHAME. SHAME.
We earn ONLY on people's profits. You earn on people's rekts.

We don't even take the commissions if the amount is insignificant

Yet you have the ass-face to fake interest in protecting the naive users.  disgusting.

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So now some ones innocence or guilt is determined by how many people defend them? This is the popularity contest I was speaking of previously in addition to the burden of being judged guilty until proven innocent. Not only do people have to prove themselves innocent to the mob, but if they don't grovel sufficiently it doesn't matter how much they prove  their innocence. Plenty of people have no one defend them even when they did nothing wrong simply based on the fact that they don't want to be the next target of the mob for daring to contradict them, exactly like is being done to FruitBasket.

How many times do you I have to tell you that this isn't a court of law? Stop using terms like "innocent" and "guilty." Nobody here is thinking along those lines except for you. The fact stands you didn't even oppose the flag or try to work with theymos' new system. If you don't like it, cry to him about it, not us.

In short it seems as if you're intent on being the new resident Reputation troll.

blah blah blah

Way to rearrange the debate to cut out replies I already made that addressed every single issue you now want to pretend is left hanging. Again, you are concentrating too heavily on deceit, ego and manipulation in order to promote your "service."

I've already invested far too much time in countering your lies. Try being truthful for a change.

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So now some ones innocence or guilt is determined by how many people defend them? This is the popularity contest I was speaking of previously in addition to the burden of being judged guilty until proven innocent. Not only do people have to prove themselves innocent to the mob, but if they don't grovel sufficiently it doesn't matter how much they prove  their innocence. Plenty of people have no one defend them even when they did nothing wrong simply based on the fact that they don't want to be the next target of the mob for daring to contradict them, exactly like is being done to FruitBasket.

How many times do you I have to tell you that this isn't a court of law? Stop using terms like "innocent" and "guilty." Nobody here is thinking along those lines except for you.

blah blah blah

Way to rearrange the debate to cut out replies I already made that addressed every single issue you now want to pretend is left hanging. Again, you are concentrating too heavily on deceit, ego and manipulation in order to promote your "service."

I've already invested far too much time in countering your lies. Try being truthful for a change.

People can understand who is the liar don't worry. Everytime i reply, i use knowledge, facts and reputable sources. While when you talk... is such a low level fud that is clear you can't even be that stupid, but you are driven by second interest.

Go hide under a rock instead of spamming casinos all day and faking interest in protecting people from losing btc.


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People can understand who is the liar don't worry.

I think that's the truest thing you've ever said. Congratulations on your new start.

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People can understand who is the liar don't worry.

I think that's the truest thing you've ever said. Congratulations on your new start.

Thanks, now go spamming casinos for the good of the people, you KING!

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How many times do you I have to tell you that this isn't a court of law? Stop using terms like "innocent" and "guilty." Nobody here is thinking along those lines except for you. The fact stands you didn't even oppose the flag or try to work with theymos' new system. If you don't like it, cry to him about it, not us.

In short it seems as if you're intent on being the new resident Reputation troll.

As many times as you need to feel better about yourself I suppose.

Innocent and guilty are very simple terms with clear meaning even outside of the legal system. Your semantic dance does nothing to change the fact that you have come to a conclusion first based on suspicion alone and are demanding that your suspicions be proven wrong rather than presenting actual evidence of malfeasance. This system of rule is the hallmark of totalitarians and dictators throughout history, and always results in many many more victims as those making the accusations almost never have any accountability if they are wrong. People aren't going to respect a system that is so arbitrary and open to abuse, resulting in even less people willing to play by the rules, thus creating even more breakdown of the community and people more willing to cheat and steal.

I am absolutely working within Theymos's system, and furthermore I was one of the primary proponents of him introducing a standard of evidence of theft, contractual violation, or violation of applicable laws of which this new system is based upon in order to help prevent exactly these kind of arbitrary accusations. You and your mob buddies are the ones not working within the system and are intent on raising your own profiles at the expense of the overall community which you pick out of a hat one by one to accuse.

This accusation is especially retarded as cryptocurrency is inherently a risky endeavor, let alone trading. You are attempting to enforce a standard that no one using a similar business model could ever meet. In effect you are dictating to this user what trading practices he may or may not use rather than bringing evidence of wrongdoing on their part. You might as well start tagging every gambling service if this is your standard of evidence. You and your wannabe internet police friends are the Bitcoin version of "permit Pattie." This is exactly what many people turn to cryptocurrency to escape, and here you are stripping that ability to have privacy, independence, and voluntary trade without 3rd party interference.
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How many times do you I have to tell you that this isn't a court of law? Stop using terms like "innocent" and "guilty." Nobody here is thinking along those lines except for you. The fact stands you didn't even oppose the flag or try to work with theymos' new system. If you don't like it, cry to him about it, not us.

There's a certain irony in what you wrote above given you felt compelled to quote the affirmation a few posts earlier: (did you even read the affirmation?)

Your one defender in this thread didn't even bother to oppose the flag against you. Shows you how much support you actually have here.



The fact that more don't affirm the allegation, or reject the contention is more to do with one side or the other has not made a compelling enough case, rather than to say because they don't reject it, they some how must be de-facto supporting a measure (without actually clicking on the support button).

Yes it is actually a style of "court" because there is no outside arbitrator.

Time to put your pitch-fork down and extinguish that torch. (and stop feeding the Trolls)

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1. Lender as service provider:

Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.[/s]

This looks like a promise to repay a loan principle 10% per month + 5% monthly interest no matter if the bot works or not, no?

This is not a loan per-se , it's more like an investment,  simply because the only way CryptoSparks is going to repay the loan back to the lender is IF the bot works , if the bot does not work there will be no money left to repay the loan, CryptoSparks then will have one of two options

1-Run away and disappear
2-Borrow more money from other investors/lenders in order to repay the the previous interest, and then if the bot fails again , he will need to borrow more money again and again until he gets to the point of no going back and then he simply run away with whatever money left.

I have been day trading Forex and Crypto for long enough and I can tell you for sure that , anyone who has a working bot , especially a bot that has a similar success rate to the alleged results presented by CryptoSparks would not be looking to promote it on this forum, if he is so certain that the bot works he would sell his wife and kids and trade with 100x leverage for 2-4 weeks and become instantly rich.

CryptoSparks might not be attempting to scam, but he sure is willing to risk people's money without showing them the complete risks and consequences of using a trading bot especially on Bitmex, so this can also be considered unethical and probably illegal in many places.

In the best case scenario CryptoSparks is simply asking for 5BTC loan that has 50/50 chance of repaying, which is risky enough to be flagged for, some of those feedback are not appropriate , but the flag is more right than wrong.

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1. Lender as service provider:

Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.[/s]

This looks like a promise to repay a loan principle 10% per month + 5% monthly interest no matter if the bot works or not, no?

This is not a loan per-se , it's more like an investment,  simply because the only way CryptoSparks is going to repay the loan back to the lender is IF the bot works , if the bot does not work there will be no money left to repay the loan, CryptoSparks then will have one of two options

1-Run away and disappear
2-Borrow more money from other investors/lenders in order to repay the the previous interest, and then if the bot fails again , he will need to borrow more money again and again until he gets to the point of no going back and then he simply run away with whatever money left.

I have been day trading Forex and Crypto for long enough and I can tell you for sure that , anyone who has a working bot , especially a bot that has a similar success rate to the alleged results presented by CryptoSparks would not be looking to promote it on this forum, if he is so certain that the bot works he would sell his wife and kids and trade with 100x leverage for 2-4 weeks and become instantly rich.

CryptoSparks might not be attempting to scam, but he sure is willing to risk people's money without showing them the complete risks and consequences of using a trading bot especially on Bitmex, so this can also be considered unethical and probably illegal in many places.

In the best case scenario CryptoSparks is simply asking for 5BTC loan that has 50/50 chance of repaying, which is risky enough to be flagged for, some of those feedback are not appropriate , but the flag is more right than wrong.

Again, do you have any evidence of malpractice or just more speculation and suspicion?

"bob123 alleges: Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with CryptoSparks is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions."

The flag requires "concrete red flags", I.E. evidence, not just suspicion. This is not a valid flag.
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1. Lender as service provider:

Lend us UP to 5BTC with 10% monthly payback + 5% monthly interest.
We can give API access + EMAIL +PASSWORD of the trading account managing the funds as collateral so you can always keep an eye on the funds.
This results in almost 30% risk free profit for the lender. 2 year of data shows the bot can easily handle the interest rate, please download and check for yourself.[/s]

This looks like a promise to repay a loan principle 10% per month + 5% monthly interest no matter if the bot works or not, no?

This is not a loan per-se , it's more like an investment,  simply because the only way CryptoSparks is going to repay the loan back to the lender is IF the bot works , if the bot does not work there will be no money left to repay the loan, CryptoSparks then will have one of two options

1-Run away and disappear
2-Borrow more money from other investors/lenders in order to repay the the previous interest, and then if the bot fails again , he will need to borrow more money again and again until he gets to the point of no going back and then he simply run away with whatever money left.

I have been day trading Forex and Crypto for long enough and I can tell you for sure that , anyone who has a working bot , especially a bot that has a similar success rate to the alleged results presented by CryptoSparks would not be looking to promote it on this forum, if he is so certain that the bot works he would sell his wife and kids and trade with 100x leverage for 2-4 weeks and become instantly rich.

CryptoSparks might not be attempting to scam, but he sure is willing to risk people's money without showing them the complete risks and consequences of using a trading bot especially on Bitmex, so this can also be considered unethical and probably illegal in many places.

In the best case scenario CryptoSparks is simply asking for 5BTC loan that has 50/50 chance of repaying, which is risky enough to be flagged for, some of those feedback are not appropriate , but the flag is more right than wrong.

This is the problem of your point of view:

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would sell his wife and kids and trade with 100x leverage for 2-4 weeks and become instantly rich.

If you have a winning strategy, doesn't mean that if you go 100x (people still do that btw?  Grin) you will still be able to apply that exact strategy.
I honestly think there's no long term winning strategy that can survive the risk of 100x leverage.

Going back to our bot, leverage is dynamically set based on many factors, there's no way to set a higher static leverage to maximize the ROI.

I get your points about the lending request, but i repeat that it was more of a partnership proposal to the liquidity providers of this forum(the lenders).
Who would take a loan leaving the funds in control of the lender? The proposal should have also marked how using us as service providers instead was a way better option.  Grin Grin

The loan would have been repaid monthly from the same money sitting in the trade account. The mathematical and technical impossibility to liquidate the full account, the 2 year of data showing how the avg risk involved per position is only 5% while the avg monthly ROI is 25% , and ultimately considering the scheduled income coming from set commissions, would have EASILY allowed us to pay the 5% monthly interest and the 10% payback, giving the lender a fixed ROI while dumping the market risk on us.

As you correctly pointed out, the lending request became a issue only after the trolls realized how their attacks of "SCAM", "PONZI", "DON'T SEND BTC TO THIS USER' ecc were miserably failing because they didn't even take the time to understand our bulletproof business model.


Lastly i would like to point out that the 100% win rate we are keeping since launch is not alleged, but printed in stone and easily verifiable via api key provided in our thread.




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I wonder if anyone on DT1 has realised yet this thread has become a platform for CryptoSparks' services?

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September 27, 2019, 11:34:44 PM
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The flag requires "concrete red flags", I.E. evidence, not just suspicion. This is not a valid flag.

Does this fact apply to those who ask you to send them 0.25BTC and receive 1BTC in 24 hours ? assuming it's a newbie account with no "evidence" that would support any flag?

if you want to talk about solid evidence then 90% of online  scammers are innocent, simply put most evidence are just screenshots of conversations and shit, they can be easily faked, the same thing applies to all gift card scammers and any other sort of internet scam, good luck having a solid proof against any online criminal, based on your theory we might as well just cancel the whole idea of the flag system since we rarely present any solid proof that would satisfy you and ask the victims to take their cases to court.

TS, let me ask you a question, would you lend CryptoSparks 5BTC if you had that ? I bet on NO , simply because you do know that it's very unlikely you going to get your money back, if Theymos or any other trusted member asked for the same loan, you probably wouldn't mind , despite the fact that there is no solid evidence that Theymos is going to pay back neither CryptoSparks would scam you, logic is stronger than evidence in many cases, this case is no exception.

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The flag requires "concrete red flags", I.E. evidence, not just suspicion. This is not a valid flag.

Does this fact apply to those who ask you to send them 0.25BTC and receive 1BTC in 24 hours ? assuming it's a newbie account with no "evidence" that would support any flag?

if you want to talk about solid evidence then 90% of online  scammers are innocent, simply put most evidence are just screenshots of conversations and shit, they can be easily faked, the same thing applies to all gift card scammers and any other sort of internet scam, good luck having a solid proof against any online criminal, based on your theory we might as well just cancel the whole idea of the flag system since we rarely present any solid proof that would satisfy you and ask the victims to take their cases to court.

TS, let me ask you a question, would you lend CryptoSparks 5BTC if you had that ? I bet on NO , simply because you do know that it's very unlikely you going to get your money back, if Theymos or any other trusted member asked for the same loan, you probably wouldn't mind , despite the fact that there is no solid evidence that Theymos is going to pay back neither CryptoSparks would scam you, logic is stronger than evidence in many cases, this case is no exception.

None of your rambling matters, The fact is Theymos implemented these standards in order to stop arbitrary accusations without evidence, and you have none. An environment where anyone is subject to arbitrary accusations and is guilty until proven innocent is far more destructive than an environment where some scammers slip through the cracks (which you will never stop anyway). This is an invalid flag and an abuse of the system as it was designed.
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September 28, 2019, 01:02:34 AM
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None of your rambling matters

Every time you get asked a question you can't answer you start being rude and disrespectful, if my "rambling" does not matter then stop quoting my posts and go do something better with your life.


An environment where anyone is subject to arbitrary accusations and is guilty until proven innocent is far more destructive

You have been whining about everything regarding the forum for years now, and nobody seems to care about your worthless opinions, you have been here for 8 years probably repeating the same shit over and over again, how long more till you realize that crying about every thing in this forum won't change a thing? or maybe this place is not for you after all.




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None of your rambling matters

Every time you get asked a question you can't answer you start being rude and disrespectful, if my "rambling" does not matter then stop quoting my posts and go do something better with your life.


An environment where anyone is subject to arbitrary accusations and is guilty until proven innocent is far more destructive

You have been whining about everything regarding the forum for years now, and nobody seems to care about your worthless opinions, you have been here for 8 years probably repeating the same shit over and over again, how long more till you realize that crying about every thing in this forum won't change a thing? or maybe this place is not for you after all.

If I am wasting my time posting here, what are you doing? Your posts are most valuable and sanctified are they? This is not a place where people trend towards politeness, and frankly I don't give a flying fuck if you or anyone else thinks I am rude. I treat people with as much respect and politeness as they give me, and you simply don't like being treated in the way you treat others as you join this little mob to cast aspersions to raise your own profile.

I have been raising these issues for years because unlike you I was around long enough to have helped build this community and recognize this behavior as antithetical to the entire purpose of Bitcoin. I don't need your approval or the approval of anyone else for that matter. I know for a fact my efforts have yielded results even if you are to dumb to realize it.

Now that you are done with your own pissing and moaning, do you care to present any evidence to support this flag or do you consider your suspicions alone sufficient regardless of the stated flag requirements?
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