Flag - "CryptoSparks"

[mikeywith]

I treat people with as much respect and politeness as they give me,

I stated my opinion regarding the subject in hand, you quoted my post and started a discussion, I politely engaged in the discussion, and then the first thing you wrote was :

None of your rambling matters

I treated you with respect, and based on your alleged way of treating people you should have been respectful to me, I think the only time you to talk nicely to someone is if they agree to your thoughts, if they disagree, it gives you the right to show your disrespectful attitude.

as you join this little mob to cast aspersions to raise your own profile.

What mob that is ? you mean the gang?   hate to tell you that i have not been accepted yet, going to apply again next week , I have better chances now after I "cast aspersions" , I might need to cycle a few more merit and then I am good to go.

I have been raising these issues for years because unlike you I was around long enough to have helped build this community

Rambling, Nagging and whining do not help build any community, speaking of how you "helped build the community"  , 90% of your posts are either in Politics & Society (useless for the forum ) and Market place ( You selling your stuff and that does not do anything to the community, in fact the community is doing you a great favor by providing you a great platform to trade) and the rest of your posts are either in Meta or Reputation (Obviously crying and whining about trust system/merit/mods ,,etc)

I hate to break it to you, but you are really just an average forum user, that is not bad per se, you just need to reconcile with yourself and move on.

Adios,

[Vod]

I treated you with respect

That was a mistake, and in the jungle it only takes one.   Techy is still using posts I made six years ago against me.  :/

Adios

A successful pattern we should all follow! 

[suchmoon]

Now that you are done with your own pissing and moaning, do you care to present any evidence to support this flag or do you consider your suspicions alone sufficient regardless of the stated flag requirements?

A "red flag" in this context is a warning sign (I doubt theymos meant a Chinese national flag). You might think that asking for a 5 BTC loan and lying about risks is not a warning sign but apparently for other users it is.

It's quite amusing actually how you moan about mobs and bullies, but you're the one expecting others to follow your only true religion while your opponents seem to be aware of the possibility of existence of different opinions. I'm starting to think that you may not be a "knowledgeable & reasonable forum user".

[TECSHARE]

I treat people with as much respect and politeness as they give me,

I stated my opinion regarding the subject in hand, you quoted my post and started a discussion, I politely engaged in the discussion, and then the first thing you wrote was :

None of your rambling matters

I treated you with respect, and based on your alleged way of treating people you should have been respectful to me, I think the only time you to talk nicely to someone is if they agree to your thoughts, if they disagree, it gives you the right to show your disrespectful attitude.

as you join this little mob to cast aspersions to raise your own profile.

What mob that is ? you mean the gang?   hate to tell you that i have not been accepted yet, going to apply again next week , I have better chances now after I "cast aspersions" , I might need to cycle a few more merit and then I am good to go.

I have been raising these issues for years because unlike you I was around long enough to have helped build this community

Rambling, Nagging and whining do not help build any community, speaking of how you "helped build the community"  , 90% of your posts are either in Politics & Society (useless for the forum ) and Market place ( You selling your stuff and that does not do anything to the community, in fact the community is doing you a great favor by providing you a great platform to trade) and the rest of your posts are either in Meta or Reputation (Obviously crying and whining about trust system/merit/mods ,,etc)

I hate to break it to you, but you are really just an average forum user, that is not bad per se, you just need to reconcile with yourself and move on.

Adios,

Nah, you have kind of been a twat from our first interaction including this one.  I don't need your approval, and you haven't been around long enough to have any clue about what I have contributed. Any chance you are going to get back on topic and present evidence to support this flag?

I treated you with respect

That was a mistake, and in the jungle it only takes one.   Techy is still using posts I made six years ago against me.  :/

Adios

A successful pattern we should all follow!  

Perhaps because you were never once held accountable for your abuse and you continue to deny it ever happened.

Now that you are done with your own pissing and moaning, do you care to present any evidence to support this flag or do you consider your suspicions alone sufficient regardless of the stated flag requirements?

A "red flag" in this context is a warning sign (I doubt theymos meant a Chinese national flag). You might think that asking for a 5 BTC loan and lying about risks is not a warning sign but apparently for other users it is.

It's quite amusing actually how you moan about mobs and bullies, but you're the one expecting others to follow your only true religion while your opponents seem to be aware of the possibility of existence of different opinions. I'm starting to think that you may not be a "knowledgeable & reasonable forum user".

The words he used were "concrete red flags" ie something solid and observable beyond mere suspicion. You are free to have your own opinions,you are not free to have your own facts and rules. No matter how abhorrent you think I am, I am still not part of a collectivist hive mind that punishes anyone of a different mind. I am just one individual that upholds principles no matter who they apply to. Its easy to feel right with a dozen of your friends ready to dogpile on anyone who challenges you. This is all that is wrong with the current default trust as it stands. Feel free to find some more friends to reassure you of your correctitude in your arbitrary witch hunts.

[suchmoon]

The words he used were "concrete red flags" ie something solid and observable beyond mere suspicion. You are free to have your own opinions,you are not free to have your own facts and rules. No matter how abhorrent you think I am, I am still not part of a collectivist hive mind that punishes anyone of a different mind. I am just one individual that upholds principles no matter who they apply to. Its easy to feel right with a dozen of your friends ready to dogpile on anyone who challenges you. This is all that is wrong with the current default trust as it stands. Feel free to find some more friends to reassure you of your correctitude in your arbitrary witch hunts.

It is very observable that CryptoSparks asked for a 5 BTC loan and said it's risk-free.

You don't uphold any "principles", you're just making shit up when you're unable to get someone to agree with you. You can't be possibly dumb enough to believe that your incessant yapping about your virtuous character means anything to anybody except yourself.

[TECSHARE]

The words he used were "concrete red flags" ie something solid and observable beyond mere suspicion. You are free to have your own opinions,you are not free to have your own facts and rules. No matter how abhorrent you think I am, I am still not part of a collectivist hive mind that punishes anyone of a different mind. I am just one individual that upholds principles no matter who they apply to. Its easy to feel right with a dozen of your friends ready to dogpile on anyone who challenges you. This is all that is wrong with the current default trust as it stands. Feel free to find some more friends to reassure you of your correctitude in your arbitrary witch hunts.

It is very observable that CryptoSparks asked for a 5 BTC loan and said it's risk-free.

You don't uphold any "principles", you're just making shit up when you're unable to get someone to agree with you. You can't be possibly dumb enough to believe that your incessant yapping about your virtuous character means anything to anybody except yourself.

Of course it is observable. Objective proof of fraud it is not, just an assumption. I know for a fact others agree with me. Most won't speak up for fear of being the next one targeted arbitrarily in retribution for challenging the hive mind. After all burning witches at the stake makes you look good and raises your profile. Defending people from the witch hunters is just work that will result in retribution, why would they speak up?

Even if no one agreed I would be perfectly happy calling out your double standards. If you haven't noticed yet I have little need to have the approval of others when pointing out these logical inconsistencies. Unlike you I don't measure my self worth based on the judgements of others, but hey maybe if you keep trying to marginalize me suddenly it will work.

[nutildah]

Of course it is observable. Objective proof of fraud it is not, just an assumption.

Objective proof of fraud isn't needed for a type 1 flag.

I know for a fact others agree with me. Most won't speak up for fear of being the next one targeted arbitrarily in retribution for challenging the hive mind.

I'm open to dissenting opinion, and you're not the only one dissenting. You've just overlooked the others because their existence doesn't fit in with your narrative. And your dissenting isn't even based on an actual analysis of the situation at hand but rather your desire to troll the regular targets. You should probably add CryptoSparks to your trust list as your next move, if you haven't already.

After all burning witches at the stake makes you look good and raises your profile. Defending people from the witch hunters is just work that will result in retribution, why would they speak up?

Suchmoon doesn't need to "raise their profile" (whatever that even means) as they - unlike you - have long been considered a voice of reason around here.

Unlike you I don't measure my self worth based on the judgements of others

And that's the problem. You measure your self worth based on your own judgments of yourself, which is why you are so out of touch with reality and nobody takes you seriously.

but hey maybe if you keep trying to marginalize me suddenly it will work.

You marginalize yourself every time you enter the fray with a bullheaded attitude that is based on little other than the desire to attack your "opponents."

[CryptoSparks]

The words he used were "concrete red flags" ie something solid and observable beyond mere suspicion. You are free to have your own opinions,you are not free to have your own facts and rules. No matter how abhorrent you think I am, I am still not part of a collectivist hive mind that punishes anyone of a different mind. I am just one individual that upholds principles no matter who they apply to. Its easy to feel right with a dozen of your friends ready to dogpile on anyone who challenges you. This is all that is wrong with the current default trust as it stands. Feel free to find some more friends to reassure you of your correctitude in your arbitrary witch hunts.

It is very observable that CryptoSparks asked for a 5 BTC loan and said it's risk-free.

You don't uphold any "principles", you're just making shit up when you're unable to get someone to agree with you. You can't be possibly dumb enough to believe that your incessant yapping about your virtuous character means anything to anybody except yourself.

If the partnership request to lenders is the real problem, why didn't you all attacked that at first? Why do i have all kind of illogical feedback?

Why can't you understand that the "risk free" is referred to us taking the market risk while giving fixed interest to the lender that would have still access the funds?

I guess the answer is... you got roasted on every other aspect, and in your case little shiba, because of huge lack of technical knowledge. much wow!



I also find very funny how most of you guys, and ladies, start your accusation with something like:

I don't know anything about trading bots, but this looks pretty fishy to me and it does indeed look as though he's a scammer.  I'll support the flag in lieu of giving this guy a neg, which he already has a bunch of.

Just an advice, if you don't know anything about a subject, don't pretend to know better than who works in that field.
You can have your opinion that "is impossible to make money with bots and markets", but that is just.. your personal opinion.

Your pointless flag states:

Due largely to the factors mentioned in this topic, I believe that anyone dealing with CryptoSparks is at a high risk of losing money, and guests would be well-advised to avoid doing so. This determination is based on concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions.

Is clear that the bold part is totally untrue, since you have 0 concrete evidence against us and all your accusations are based on personal opinions and lack of knowledge.


Also stop with the " is hard to find evidence" theory. Is very easy to spot a scam and prove it. The fact you have nothing against us even though you have access to the live demo account via api key ( special link for suchdumbmoon and smallbrainers )should make you think.

Objective proof of fraud isn't needed for a type 1 flag.

Where is the "concrete red flags which any knowledgeable & reasonable forum user should agree with, and it is not based on the user's opinions. " ?
Why there are knowledgeable & reasonable forum users that don't agree with it?

Funny how you pop out only now that a few of your pathetic internet police buddies came out of their dirty holes, don't you have casinos to spam? did you get your weekly payout based on the rekts that you bring to sportsbet?

[TECSHARE]

Of course it is observable. Objective proof of fraud it is not, just an assumption.

Objective proof of fraud isn't needed for a type 1 flag.

I know for a fact others agree with me. Most won't speak up for fear of being the next one targeted arbitrarily in retribution for challenging the hive mind.

I'm open to dissenting opinion, and you're not the only one dissenting. You've just overlooked the others because their existence doesn't fit in with your narrative. And your dissenting isn't even based on an actual analysis of the situation at hand but rather your desire to troll the regular targets. You should probably add CryptoSparks to your trust list as your next move, if you haven't already.

After all burning witches at the stake makes you look good and raises your profile. Defending people from the witch hunters is just work that will result in retribution, why would they speak up?

Suchmoon doesn't need to "raise their profile" (whatever that even means) as they - unlike you - have long been considered a voice of reason around here.

Unlike you I don't measure my self worth based on the judgements of others

And that's the problem. You measure your self worth based on your own judgments of yourself, which is why you are so out of touch with reality and nobody takes you seriously.

but hey maybe if you keep trying to marginalize me suddenly it will work.

You marginalize yourself every time you enter the fray with a bullheaded attitude that is based on little other than the desire to attack your "opponents."

"concrete red flags" = objective evidence

It does not mean guesses, suspicions, or assumptions, all of which are not concrete but arbitrary and completely subjective. I am not overlooking anything, I am refuting their arguments and bringing attention to the fact that this kind of arbitrary enforcement will not only not prevent scams, but will result in people disregarding the rules even more because of their arbitrary and selective enforcement breed disrespect for the rule of law. No one respects a system of rules for thee and not for me.

Many people argue trying to sell your account is grounds for accusations of fraud, yet some how you remain trusted, funny how that works. Could it be because these inquisitions are more of a popularity contest than an examination of facts? Either the standards apply to everyone or they apply to no one, and for them to apply to everyone they need to be well defined and objective.

Most of the people running around accusing people built their reputations on doing so, regularly at the expense of innocent users with no repercussions to themselves. Furthermore they prevent dissent to their opinions by creating an atmosphere where anyone can be made subject to these arbitrary accusations and scrutinizing every action they have ever taken. Tell me some more about attacking my opponents while your entire statement consists of personal attacks and almost nothing on topic.

[nutildah]

Here's a few "concrete red flags" for you that can be found just in your signature:

CONNECT FOR FREE OUR BOT TO YOUR BITMEX ACCOUNT VIA API KEY

It might be free to connect but you are also charging people a $10 fee and 30% of all profits. If they make net losses for the month, they still owe you $10, and you lose nothing.

SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME!

You have no guarantee that its "safe" other than your word. "Passive income" is also a term meant to attract a certain audience, mainly those who attempt to profit off Ponzis and MLM schemes.

ROI: +495%🔥

This is based on nothing other than your word, and again you are just throwing out a big number in hopes of attracting a special kind of moron. Its a tactic we've seen employed by scammers hundreds of times. Just because you present "backtest data" of something, it does not mean that data was not altered to make things appear in your favor. You have a strong penchant for doing this as has already been demonstrated by you saying you've made 100% winning trades when the very data you've provided says otherwise. It might just be a little lie but it goes to show that you are willing to lie to promote your project.

We don't even need to delve into your loan request to present enough evidence to warrant a type 1 flag.

Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot. What we are saying is the way you are going about promoting it is incredibly shady and you use several sales tactics that overlap with those used by scammers.

Nobody needs an intricate knowledge of your business model or the trading process to recognize your behavioral pattern and understand how the crowd that you are appealing to here is the same as that of Ponzi and MLM scammers. You throw out big numbers while saying your service is "safe, free and easy", which is all bullshit backed by nothing other than your word and a handful of verifiable trades. That's what warrants suspicion about your project.

Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

[TECSHARE]

Here's a few "concrete red flags" for you that can be found just in your signature:

CONNECT FOR FREE OUR BOT TO YOUR BITMEX ACCOUNT VIA API KEY

It might be free to connect but you are also charging people a $10 fee and 30% of all profits. If they make net losses for the month, they still owe you $10, and you lose nothing.

SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME!

You have no guarantee that its "safe" other than your word. "Passive income" is also a term meant to attract a certain audience, mainly those who attempt to profit off Ponzis and MLM schemes.

ROI: +495%🔥

This is based on nothing other than your word, and again you are just throwing out a big number in hopes of attracting a special kind of moron. Its a tactic we've seen employed by scammers hundreds of times. Just because you present "backtest data" of something, it does not mean that data was not altered to make things appear in your favor. You have a strong penchant for doing this as has already been demonstrated by you saying you've made 100% winning trades when the very data you've provided says otherwise. It might just be a little lie but it goes to show that you are willing to lie to promote your project.

We don't even need to delve into your loan request to present enough evidence to warrant a type 1 flag.

Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot. What we are saying is the way you are going about promoting it is incredibly shady and you use several sales tactics that overlap with those used by scammers.

Nobody needs an intricate knowledge of your business model or the trading process to recognize your behavioral pattern and understand how the crowd that you are appealing to here is the same as that of Ponzi and MLM scammers. You throw out big numbers while saying your service is "safe, free and easy", which is all bullshit backed by nothing other than your word and a handful of verifiable trades. That's what warrants suspicion about your project.

Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

TL;DR

Prove you are innocent or we will assume your guilt and penalize you based on assumptions that could just as easily be false as true.

[CryptoSparks]

Here's a few "concrete red flags" for you that can be found just in your signature:

CONNECT FOR FREE OUR BOT TO YOUR BITMEX ACCOUNT VIA API KEY

It might be free to connect but you are also charging people a $10 fee and 30% of all profits. If they make net losses for the month, they still owe you $10, and you lose nothing.

SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME!

You have no guarantee that its "safe" other than your word. "Passive income" is also a term meant to attract a certain audience, mainly those who attempt to profit off Ponzis and MLM schemes.

ROI: +495%🔥

This is based on nothing other than your word, and again you are just throwing out a big number in hopes of attracting a special kind of moron. Its a tactic we've seen employed by scammers hundreds of times. Just because you present "backtest data" of something, it does not mean that data was not altered to make things appear in your favor. You have a strong penchant for doing this as has already been demonstrated by you saying you've made 100% winning trades when the very data you've provided says otherwise. It might just be a little lie but it goes to show that you are willing to lie to promote your project.

We don't even need to delve into your loan request to present enough evidence to warrant a type 1 flag.

Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot. What we are saying is the way you are going about promoting it is incredibly shady and you use several sales tactics that overlap with those used by scammers.

Nobody needs an intricate knowledge of your business model or the trading process to recognize your behavioral pattern and understand how the crowd that you are appealing to here is the same as that of Ponzi and MLM scammers. You throw out big numbers while saying your service is "safe, free and easy", which is all bullshit backed by nothing other than your word and a handful of verifiable trades. That's what warrants suspicion about your project.

Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

So those are concrete evidence of us being scammers? Are you serious ?  

CONNECT FOR FREE OUR BOT TO YOUR BITMEX ACCOUNT VIA API KEY

It might be free to connect but you are also charging people a $10 fee and 30% of all profits. If they make net losses for the month, they still owe you $10, and you lose nothing.

They owe to the vps provider 10$, not to me. They also can chose to run away with profits after the first month without paying the commission. At the end of the day, we provided the service, delivered the profit, earned nothing. Did we offer the service for free or not?

SAFE AND SLOW PASSIVE INCOME!

You have no guarantee that its "safe" other than your word. "Passive income" is also a term meant to attract a certain audience, mainly those who attempt to profit off Ponzis and MLM schemes.

what guarantees you want in trading other than a long term backtested strategy with safe money management? 500% in 20 months is safe and slow. you may not understand why backtest are very important, but win after win, more concrete and bulletproof guarantees add to the stack.

ROI: +495%🔥

This is based on nothing other than your word, and again you are just throwing out a big number in hopes of attracting a special kind of moron. Its a tactic we've seen employed by scammers hundreds of times. Just because you present "backtest data" of something, it does not mean that data was not altered to make things appear in your favor. You have a strong penchant for doing this as has already been demonstrated by you saying you've made 100% winning trades when the very data you've provided says otherwise. It might just be a little lie but it goes to show that you are willing to lie to promote your project.

I'm not throwing big numbers ( 500% in 20 months is not even that big).

You don't understand why backtest matters because your jobs is not related to algorithmic trading.



Can you force yourself to understand that since we EARN ONLY ON PROFITS COMMISSION we have absolutely no interest in faking data and providing a fraud product ?

We can keep fighting about the 100% win rate definition as much you want. that doesn't change the fact that is 100%. I will copy my previous replies for who didn't catch it:




Note that the negative PNLs of 0.0001 mBTC ( 0.001$ loss) are created by instant 1 contracts trades necessary to escape a bug in the bitmex websocket's position endpoint. After several days without trades, the position value restores and the endpoint returns error when trying to access it. This causes the bots to crash. What's the solution until bitmex fixes the problem? Make instant 1 contract trades to unlock the endpoint. That 0.001$ loss is the fee paid as taker(necessary to close the "unlock trade" in less than 1 second) and the mathematical loss that come from the 0.5$ of spread between the ask and the bid.

Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot.

UHM, SORRY? I had pages of fights about this.  Here's a little extra:

Successful traders don't use bots. The best way to become a successful trader is, doing less trades.

The less you trade,  the more successful you become.

That's why, the best traders are who do zero trades, hodlers.

Nobody needs an intricate knowledge of your business model or the trading process to recognize your behavioral pattern

You need BASIC knowledge to at least understand what the fuck we are talking about. Your first feedback was:



If you had at least read our thread, you would have known that no btc is ever sent to us, instead they are manged on bitmex via public api key.

We don't even need to delve into your loan request to present enough evidence to warrant a type 1 flag.

With what? Also is that the reason you changed your negative feedback from the one posted above to a new one referring exclusively at the partnership with the lenders?

zip

TL;DR

Prove you are innocent or we will assume your guilt and penalize you based on assumptions that could just as easily be false as true.

I wish was that easy, no matter how many times and in how many different ways i prove we are legit.... they will never accept that they were wrong in the first place.

Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

Imagine someone, unfortunately, kills suchmoon. Police come and take you from your home, exposing you at family, co-workers, and media as the bloody spineless murderer.

Even if you have a bulletproof alibi and there are no evidence that you have beaten suchmoon to death, the jury sends you to prison with a sentence:

"Meanwhile go to prison, if we catch the real murderer we will get you out of there don't worry."


This is what all the CryptoSparks' hunt looks like.

[nutildah]

So those are concrete evidence of us being scammers? Are you serious ?  

No, its evidence that anyone dealing with you as at high risk of losing money.

They owe to the vps provider 10$, not to me.

Another lie, unless you're saying they directly pay the VPS provider $10. Is that what's happening? Besides, why do you need to collect $10 from each client? Shouldn't the total VPS pool from all clients be about $10 for 1 month?

Did we offer the service for free or not?

If you don't ask for $10 or a 30% cut of supposed profits for the first month, then yes, your 1 month free trial is indeed free.

what guarantees you want in trading other than a long term backtested strategy with safe money management? 500% in 20 months is safe and slow.

No, its not. And you have no proof of this. Your "backtest data" is garbage as far as the real world is concerned.

you may not understand why backtest are very important, but win after win, more concrete and bulletproof guarantees add to the stack.

I understand you think everybody should take your word as 100% true.

You don't understand why backtest matters because your jobs is not related to algorithmic trading.

Again, I understand you think everybody should be taking your word at face value, which is hard to do given that you have a propensity to lie and exaggerate.

Can you force yourself to understand that since we EARN ONLY ON PROFITS COMMISSION we have absolutely no interest in faking data and providing a fraud product ?

Another lie. Granted you have at least 2 clients a month, you are profiting by collecting your VPN fees.

We can keep fighting about the 100% win rate definition as much you want. that doesn't change the fact that is 100%.

OMG. You are unable to admit your record has losing trades, despite the evidence being clearly there.

Note that the negative PNLs of 0.0001 mBTC ( 0.001$ loss) are created by instant 1 contracts trades necessary to escape a bug in the bitmex websocket's position endpoint. After several days without trades, the position value restores and the endpoint returns error when trying to access it. This causes the bots to crash. What's the solution until bitmex fixes the problem? Make instant 1 contract trades to unlock the endpoint. That 0.001$ loss is the fee paid as taker(necessary to close the "unlock trade" in less than 1 second) and the mathematical loss that come from the 0.5$ of spread between the ask and the bid.

If its a "winning trade" then why does it yield a negative return?

Nobody's saying its impossible to profit with a trading bot.

UHM, SORRY? I had pages of fights about this.  Here's a little extra:

There's a clear difference between "a profit" and "constant profits." You don't even know that you can generate constant profits. Whatever works for you this month might not even work the next. Like I told you, you can point to your backtest data all you want and people can decide for themselves if they want to trust your word or not. Regardless, it comes down to a matter of trust, and absolutely nothing more.

Successful traders don't use bots. The best way to become a successful trader is, doing less trades.

The less you trade,  the more successful you become.

That's why, the best traders are who do zero trades, hodlers.

Again, clearly not the same thing as saying "impossible."

Like I tried to say earlier before TS derailed the conversation, come back when you have several months of verifiable trade history under your belt and then we'll talk again.

Imagine someone, unfortunately, kills suchmoon. Police come and take you from your home, exposing you at family, co-workers, and media as the bloody spineless murderer.

Even if you have a bulletproof alibi and there are no evidence that you have beaten suchmoon to death, the jury sends you to prison with a sentence:

"Meanwhile go to prison, if we catch the real murderer we will get you out of there don't worry."

This is what all the CryptoSparks' hunt looks like.

This is an idiotic, overly dramatic and non-applicable comparison. Nobody put you in prison, jackass. We're just trying to warn others that you are exhibiting untrustworthy behavior that has more in common with scammers than people offering legitimate services.

I'm thoroughly bored now of you arguing in circles with me and am not giving you any more free exposure.

Have a terrific day.

[TECSHARE]

No, its evidence that anyone dealing with you as at high risk of losing money.

If this is your arbitrary standard, then you best get to work tagging every single gambling, betting, casino,and ponzi among others. Of course you don't do that you just arbitrarily pick people to enforce these subjective standards upon. The flags are there to help prevent fraud, not to prevent people from taking risks.

what guarantees you want in trading other than a long term backtested strategy with safe money management? 500% in 20 months is safe and slow.

No, its not. And you have no proof of this. Your "backtest data" is garbage as far as the real world is concerned.

What guarantees you will wake up tomorrow? Again, you are enforcing a standard of guilty until proven innocent. If people want to trust random people on the internet to trade for them that is their prerogative regardless of how unappealing you personally find the offer.

I understand you think everybody should take your word as 100% true.

But everyone should trust your assumptions as being 100% true?

Again, I understand you think everybody should be taking your word at face value, which is hard to do given that you have a propensity to lie and exaggerate.

He is at least presenting SOME evidence to support his position, you on the other hand are exaggerating and lying in order to justify your arbitrary inquisitions.

OMG. You are unable to admit your record has losing trades, despite the evidence being clearly there.

Now every single trade needs to be a winner in order for this bot to be profitable? Have you ever even traded manually let alone using a bot?

If its a "winning trade" then why does it yield a negative return?

Are you sure you are not reading the log in reverse?

There's a clear difference between "a profit" and "constant profits." You don't even know that you can generate constant profits. Whatever works for you this month might not even work the next. Like I told you, you can point to your backtest data all you want and people can decide for themselves if they want to trust your word or not. Regardless, it comes down to a matter of trust, and absolutely nothing more.

This same standard could literally be applied to literally any tradings service. If people can decide for themselves who the fuck are you running around trying to tell people they shouldn't trade with him by plastering his reputation with arbitrary tags?

Successful traders don't use bots. The best way to become a successful trader is, doing less trades.

The less you trade,  the more successful you become.

That's why, the best traders are who do zero trades, hodlers.

Again, clearly not the same thing as saying "impossible."

Thanks for proving you are a moron with no trading experience mindrust. Maybe leave the criticism to people who have experience with what they are talking about. No you aren't saying it is impossible to profit using a trading bot,you are just saying it is impossible your accusations and suspicions based on nothing are wrong.

This is an idiotic, overly dramatic and non-applicable comparison. Nobody put you in prison, jackass. We're just trying to warn others that you are exhibiting untrustworthy behavior that has more in common with scammers than people offering legitimate services.

I'm thoroughly bored now of you arguing in circles with me and am not giving you any more free exposure.

Have a terrific day.

Is that anything like your an idiotic, overly dramatic and non-applicable comparison of this legitimate but potentially (maybe) risky service to fraud? You aren't just warning people, just creating a thread would be just warning people. You and your cult buddies are arbitrating who does and does not get to have a reputation based on your suspicions alone.

[suchmoon]

If the partnership request to lenders is the real problem, why didn't you all attacked that at first? Why do i have all kind of illogical feedback?

Quit with the fucking lies already, it's cringy. The loan request and your "risk-free" assertion based on the ridiculous statement that an API key can act as a Bitcoin private key is THE reason why I red-trusted you and I made that quite clear. I asked you like a dozen times if that's really what you're claiming until I had no doubt about it.

[CryptoSparks]

If the partnership request to lenders is the real problem, why didn't you all attacked that at first? Why do i have all kind of illogical feedback?

Quit with the fucking lies already, it's cringy. The loan request and your "risk-free" assertion based on the ridiculous statement that an API key can act as a Bitcoin private key is THE reason why I red-trusted you and I made that quite clear. I asked you like a dozen times if that's really what you're claiming until I had no doubt about it.

I will stand until death to my definitions:

A Bitmex API KEY with withdraw privileges could act as a Bitcoin Private Key in controlling the funds, as long you have access to the email for withdraw confirmation and as long as the Api Key remains enabled.

An API KEY could instead totally act as a Bitcoin Private Key, since is a tool that shapes around the service that generates it. if the service is a simple bridge to a previously set private key, you can interact with it via an API KEY. The result? your api key would be private key.

I've made you this gift, didn't even appreciated it  
[FULL GUIDE] API KEY - WHAT is it , WHY you need it and HOW to create one



Anyone that is not driven by any personal interest in this matter can understand by the feedbacks that trolls didn't take the care to even read our ANN THREAD.

NO BTC ARE EVER SENT TO US, WE CAN ACCESS THE CLIENTS' BITMEX ACCOUNTS VIA PUBLIC API KEY WITH ONLY TRADING PRIVILEGES

You got in this mess because of superficiality as for your own admission in META. You are worst than the other trolls because after that first step in the right decision, went straight back in full fud mode when i told you i would have not delete my feedback.

I'm thoroughly bored now of you arguing in circles with me and am not giving you any more free exposure.

Have a terrific day.

You are in a never ending loop because tried to attack at 360 degrees a bulletproof businessmodel and failed.

Have a pathetic life.

[mikeywith]

NO BTC ARE EVER SENT TO US, WE CAN ACCESS THE CLIENTS' BITMEX ACCOUNTS VIA PUBLIC API KEY WITH ONLY TRADING PRIVILEGES

If we were to ignore the 5 btc loan request then that is true, you can't withdrawal your client's funds on bitmex, but you can make it disappear in a few bad trades, so technically thier BTC is at risk, it does not matter if you withdrawal it or lose it.

You could very well be legit and not willing to get rich by risking people's money but unfortunately most bot's creator are scammers who go by the rule " if the bot wins, i win, if the bot loses, who cares ?" - so you should not be surprised that people will tag for you this, think of ICOs, there are probably plenty of legit once out there, but what are the chances?   

Your reputation and rank matter too, you are not even in a position to trade 50$ worth of btc without escrow, let alone 5 btc loan.

I am not trying to be mean, I just don't want you to feel bad, nothing personal here, we just learned from experience that promises like yours are usually never kept , and people have lost millions of dollars trusting random people with random trading bots, we are only trying to protect the newbies by being extra conservative, some innocent users could be victims to that, but that is life !.

[TECSHARE]

NO BTC ARE EVER SENT TO US, WE CAN ACCESS THE CLIENTS' BITMEX ACCOUNTS VIA PUBLIC API KEY WITH ONLY TRADING PRIVILEGES

If we were to ignore the 5 btc loan request then that is true, you can't withdrawal your client's funds on bitmex, but you can make it disappear in a few bad trades, so technically thier BTC is at risk, it does not matter if you withdrawal it or lose it.

You could very well be legit and not willing to get rich by risking people's money but unfortunately most bot's creator are scammers who go by the rule " if the bot wins, i win, if the bot loses, who cares ?" - so you should not be surprised that people will tag for you this, think of ICOs, there are probably plenty of legit once out there, but what are the chances?   

Your reputation and rank matter too, you are not even in a position to trade 50$ worth of btc without escrow, let alone 5 btc loan.

I am not trying to be mean, I just don't want you to feel bad, nothing personal here, we just learned from experience that promises like yours are usually never kept , and people have lost millions of dollars trusting random people with random trading bots, we are only trying to protect the newbies by being extra conservative, some innocent users could be victims to that, but that is life !.

So your argument is even though he may very well be perfectly legitimate, statistically speaking he is a fraud? What kind of wonderful governments practiced collective punishment throughout history? What kind of freedom did people subject to those systems end up having? The flag requires "concrete red flags", not a standard of "well we guess he is a con because a lot of cons exploit this business model, so burn his reputation because statistically the odds are we are right".

[mikeywith]

Adios,

[TECSHARE]

Adios,

I love it when people think I give a shit if they put me on ignore. All you are doing is saving me time arguing with you. Thanks for proving you have nothing valid to respond with.