Private sale in China

[mdessouki]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

[passwordnow]

There are still remaining angel investors the fact that I just talked to someone and told me that the boss that he's working with is still looking into private sales. I don't know what pushes him to get in touch of it maybe there's still something within it. I'm not also from US but they are becoming stricter and looking to the scene now. Unlike before, they are letting this pass but now they are taking it seriously the crypto space.

[chanc3r]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

In USA there were so many restrictions to the investors and that's why the majority of the ico platforms are avoiding to accept investors from USA to participate in any kind of crowdsale.

What you must remember if in the crypto token is a really important part and as the developer and it's responsibility to keep the token's performance in the best way consider about this is not a stock market and when you are seeing crypto market and this is a public sale and it's not for audited investors only.

[electronicash]

most chinese are always into investment and making money so its not surprising they are into crypto and their government are also now developing systems with blockchain. here in the forum its totally different though, while they look at token performance, crypto online users are looking into projects whether its scam or not regardless of its performance, idea and technology behind it.

[Decracy]

There are still remaining angel investors the fact that I just talked to someone and told me that the boss that he's working with is still looking into private sales. I don't know what pushes him to get in touch of it maybe there's still something within it. I'm not also from US but they are becoming stricter and looking to the scene now. Unlike before, they are letting this pass but now they are taking it seriously the crypto space.

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[passwordnow]

Well, I don't have contact with him anymore and it's not actually my job to tell his boss that I've found something. They are working on their own and it's on their discretion. I don't know the metrics they use upon choosing the projects he will invest.

most chinese are always into investment

Yes, they are pushed to school to study and not find a decent job but to have a decent business.

[electronicash]

Well, I don't have contact with him anymore and it's not actually my job to tell his boss that I've found something. They are working on their own and it's on their discretion. I don't know the metrics they use upon choosing the projects he will invest.

most chinese are always into investment

Yes, they are pushed to school to study and not find a decent job but to have a decent business.

yes. they are. they migrate to different countries to find greener pastures and build business of their own. sometimes they eat just twice a day to make sure they save money for their future plans. this race is push to their limits in every way. they win businesses, olympics and just maybe in crypto as well.

look who runs some of the great crypto projects today, its the chinese. if there are investors today in crypto, i would likely believe its them but these are projects mostly offered privately. has anyone heard of chinese GOOSEQ project?

[passwordnow]

Yes, they are pushed to school to study and not find a decent job but to have a decent business.

yes. they are. they migrate to different countries to find greener pastures and build business of their own. sometimes they eat just twice a day to make sure they save money for their future plans. this race is push to their limits in every way. they win businesses, olympics and just maybe in crypto as well.

look who runs some of the great crypto projects today, its the chinese. if there are investors today in crypto, i would likely believe its them but these are projects mostly offered privately. has anyone heard of chinese GOOSEQ project?

They are the known best investors and businessmen in the world. And almost in all countries there would always be a china town which means that they've been there for a long time. I haven't heard about that project that you mentioned, what's with that project?
Is there anything that seems to be very interesting with it?

[mdessouki]

So from a token value improvement point of view, is there a guide book of the Do's and Dont's that one should align with?
Is making the token an integral part of the usage of the solution as a utility token a good guarantee for maintaining its value?

[mersal]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

Its not a surprise that they want profits sooner and won't care about the result in long term,we can relate this mindset with made in China products which is cheap but not durable.If you can market it then you can make decent profits but as a whole project it will fail once the investors dump it.

[Samboo]

People are impatience. And when it comes to cryptocurrency market, they are particularly impatience as they do not have time to wait for long. Why they should wait for long term when other projects give short term profits? So I also think project performance is a must to attract investors. Forget about long term vision in crypto market.

[Herbert2020]

most of those people whom you saw in China and specially those who are so interested in tokens are mostly gamblers who are trying to test their luck in the altcoin market by making bets on different random coins in the exchanges and make profit if their luck was good on that bet and they won. they aren't really investors. that is why sometimes they are targeted for this type of investments, since they are easier to fool into thinking there is a technology where it is just repetition of previous work!

[fortunecrypto]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

That's interesting I just thought, all investors are looking for technology, and concept but to the Chinese, they are more on hype, this could be the reason why we have so many pumps and dump coins in the market, PR and marketing are great but it cannot sustain without something the community will use that will identify the coin.

[Byakuga]

Asian part of the world always have interest to invest in technology and crypto is a huge part that caught them in the eye not just china only, Singapore and Korea also follows among the rest, i am not surprised that U.S is always cut off from presales by some projects its because of the law of that country, way too much restrictions

[10c]

People are impatience. And when it comes to cryptocurrency market, they are particularly impatience as they do not have time to wait for long. Why they should wait for long term when other projects give short term profits? So I also think project performance is a must to attract investors. Forget about long term vision in crypto market.

you are very wrong. long-term vision is a must if you want to be successful. if you don’t understand where the whole industry is moving, then you better for you to leave this market right now

[mdessouki]

After the Chinese experience I shall test the US investor sentiment. Hoping for a different and more positive experience. Later on I intend to revisit the Asian market from a different perspective than only China.
The aim is not only to realize the differences but to engage investors who would not only invest for the coin value increase but as stakeholders.
But at the same time listing in Chinese exchanges is quite important.
I hope the requirements from investors in the west vs. east are not conflicting.
Who has insights from the rest of the Asia market?

[o48o]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

Wait, how do the investors you described predict the token perfomance on the private sale stage, if not from the fundamentals behind the token/coin?

[edutBTC]

In the crypto market, as in every market, China is doing very different things. If Chinese investors put money into a project, it means that the project will come to a very good place. Because they have a lot of money and they know how to handle things.

[Javi_Anibarro]

After the Chinese experience I shall test the US investor sentiment. Hoping for a different and more positive experience. Later on I intend to revisit the Asian market from a different perspective than only China.
The aim is not only to realize the differences but to engage investors who would not only invest for the coin value increase but as stakeholders.
But at the same time listing in Chinese exchanges is quite important.
I hope the requirements from investors in the west vs. east are not conflicting.
Who has insights from the rest of the Asia market?

Generally speaking, the investor in Asia is almost exactly the same as China. I have a few friends and what they care the most is token performance not the technology itself, I kinda disappointed to hear it but what can I do? most of us think cryptocurrency is the place to double your money, only a few people think cryptocurrency as a revolutionary of our current technology. But I hear Japan, Singapore, and Malaysia is a good place to find angel investors. Other than that, it is practically impossible to find it.

[mdessouki]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

Wait, how do the investors you described predict the token perfomance on the private sale stage, if not from the fundamentals behind the token/coin?

They either rely on their trusted exchanges which if the token is listed in means it will increase in value even for a short period which enables them to dump or by understanding how the coin issuer is will guarantee such price increase. One very important aspect also is the size of the community in the crypto project itself.