Private sale in China

[o48o]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

Wait, how do the investors you described predict the token perfomance on the private sale stage, if not from the fundamentals behind the token/coin?

They either rely on their trusted exchanges which if the token is listed in means it will increase in value even for a short period which enables them to dump or by understanding how the coin issuer is will guarantee such price increase. One very important aspect also is the size of the community in the crypto project itself.

Ok, that's a whole different thing then. I thought you were specifically talking about private sales, if it is in the exchange it isn't private sale anymore and if there's a community already, it's already out of that phase as well.

[jacafbiz]

What people are interested in is the ROI not only Chinese, not the technology because it takes long term to gain adoption, the huge ROI of 2017 and early 2018 which was insane IMO seems to be driving people's expectations when investing into Crypto and one thing I see now is that they market is maturing and we need to grasp this. I can see project now waiting for their Mainnet release before releasing their tokens for trading, these are positive signs for the space

[electronicash]

Yes, they are pushed to school to study and not find a decent job but to have a decent business.

yes. they are. they migrate to different countries to find greener pastures and build business of their own. sometimes they eat just twice a day to make sure they save money for their future plans. this race is push to their limits in every way. they win businesses, olympics and just maybe in crypto as well.

look who runs some of the great crypto projects today, its the chinese. if there are investors today in crypto, i would likely believe its them but these are projects mostly offered privately. has anyone heard of chinese GOOSEQ project?

They are the known best investors and businessmen in the world. And almost in all countries there would always be a china town which means that they've been there for a long time. I haven't heard about that project that you mentioned, what's with that project?
Is there anything that seems to be very interesting with it?

more of its information is right here https://www.gooseq.com

solutions it provide will substantially improve efficiency of the loistics industry, reduce related cost, and increase safety on the road by the road data thru the software for the truck drivers.  this is supported by a Huobi Incubator member too with partnership network to major industry players like the Baidu and the Chinese government.

[Saverenergy]

As far as I know, most crypto projects are not accessible to investors from the United States because of their policies. I think that in China it will be easier for you to find investors for your project.

[ashmodeus]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

i just think , mostly investor came not from USA , but from Asia and europe indeed.
and also , since many many regulations created by USA goverment, it will be make some , well let's say "stuck" for USA investor.
about angel investor, are u believe there still have a good project for angel investor ?
considering angel investor assest is one of the longest lock up period.

[Roidz]

As far as I know, most crypto projects are not accessible to investors from the United States because of their policies. I think that in China it will be easier for you to find investors for your project.

From a number of projects that I found and some of them indeed forbid investors from several countries of America and China to invest in the ico project, but I think now the ico project is starting to provide opportunities for investors from countries that do not block cryptocurrency to be able to fully invest , and this is the right step if project developers now begin to look at investors in the Asian region and also in the Middle East because as far as I know there are no specific rules governing the prohibition of cryptocurrency on both continents.

[allwelder]

strictly speaking,issuing tokens and funding raise in China is illegal.

but sometimes,regulators not punished these token issuers,because they selected to create the foundation outside of China.

[magneto]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

There are still plenty of angel investors available if your project genuinely appeals. Especially with low interest rates and further cuts incoming probably, which means that people are looking for places to invest their funds instead of keeping it in the bank.

However, most projects right now as you say are either privately funded through equity, or go public but are completely garbage projects.

As an investment, it's a difficult predicament to navigate through for sure. I personally think that ICO investing right now is futile, unless the wider markets pick up. While if you have sufficient funds, seeking to be an angel investor could prove to be more profitable.

[andika2018]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

In my opinion, there are still many venture capital companies that want to be involved in the cryptocurrency market. Token sales may be banned in China but there are many ways to outsmart regulations. I think that gradually many countries will regulate cryptocurrency because technology is hard to block

[electronicash]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

In my opinion, there are still many venture capital companies that want to be involved in the cryptocurrency market. Token sales may be banned in China but there are many ways to outsmart regulations. I think that gradually many countries will regulate cryptocurrency because technology is hard to block

the existing dex today, its also going to be hard to regulate cyrptocurrency. governments will realized this including China which they can only prevent with what they have such as using alipay to buy BTC, outside of it they can't control it. the growth of crypto users is mere proof that there is no stopping this technology. they are even starting to use the system which lead them to create digital yuan, its like paving their way to using blockchain in every financial system. when all these takes place, we may see more blockchain projects from china in private sale that only the Chinese knew.

[vintages]

OP, truth is a lot it investors are losing interest in tokens sales because a good number of them have lost a lot in it previously this makes it a priority.
You don't blame them, no body wants to put money where it will not furnish.
If you will offer something different, people might be interested in the tokens performance at first then this performance says alot of how they will be interested in the technology behind it in the long run.

[EdvinZ]

It is not surprising that investors are primarily interested in a strong PR of any project, because they want to make a profit from their investments. In addition, blockchain is a high-tech industry, and rich investors do not like to risk a lot of capital, so they are careful to invest in too exotic technologies. However, the industry is developing and more and more venture investors want to develop new directions in the market of blockchain technologies. And Yes, it is easier to find investors in a cryptocurrency project in China than in the US.

[kravas86]

The Chinese are interested in short-term profits. All Chinese projects do not last long. They are not used to developing their product. At the same time, in the USA, the cryptocurrency is treated cautiously and people invest only in those projects that have proven themselves in the cryptocurrency market. I believe that the Chinese are aimed at the mass of the project. The Americans are focused on the prospects of the project.

[boltz]

The Chinese market is in a complete expansion progress so expect anything from them when it comes to investments. The big money are in Asia now and in China especially so no wonder why they are so interested in tokens performance regarding your project as they think if its has performance it can have anything after. I have a lot of friends who were to study in China and never come back into my country again as the businesses opportunities are huge and in a continues climbing situation as China exploits every new sectors of businesses so maybe your angel investors are in China...just have a look 10 years ago at 5 major cities from China and then compare them to the current day to see how powerful China has become   .

[Kemarit]

Chinese crypto market is clearly different and unique in its nature similar to the uniqueness of almost everything in China.
A few weeks ago I was on a China tour visiting numerous VCs to initiate the funding process of my crypto project.
I realized that the investors, regardless of their shapes and sizes, are mainly interested in one thing; The token performance. The idea and technology behind the project comes in second place - or maybe later.
However, I came back with huge learnings. As a tech guy I focused primarily on the technology. But obviously community build up and PR are key factors.
If the public are keen to buy your token your project is a success. Long term is not an option.

Very interesting experience you learn from your China tour and I guess that reflect the current state of crypto market today. Regardless of the fundamentals behind the project, people are just looking to make money out of it, whether it has real life usage or not. And that's why there are a lot of tokens that offers nothing in crypto space but you will be surprised that investors are putting money on them, or simply put runs a pump and dump scheme.

How has the market and investor apetite changed in the past few months in the USA?

Are there still angel investors in the crypto space?

Not sure though about the US but I will speculate that they have the same mindset as well (I might be wrong though.) I do believed that there are still investors here but it's hard to find them because of the current market situations.

[Vitamin_52]

The Chinese are interested in short-term profits. All Chinese projects do not last long. They are not used to developing their product. At the same time, in the USA, the cryptocurrency is treated cautiously and people invest only in those projects that have proven themselves in the cryptocurrency market. I believe that the Chinese are aimed at the mass of the project. The Americans are focused on the prospects of the project.

believe me, the Americans are also trying to steal a piece in the short term. The Chinese also have enough projects that have been on the market for quite a long time and they are also developing with great strides.

[matchi2011]

The Chinese are interested in short-term profits. All Chinese projects do not last long. They are not used to developing their product. At the same time, in the USA, the cryptocurrency is treated cautiously and people invest only in those projects that have proven themselves in the cryptocurrency market. I believe that the Chinese are aimed at the mass of the project. The Americans are focused on the prospects of the project.

Maybe in some point you are right but not all inside US are aiming for long term support some of them are also have the same point of views regarding to quick benefits. Maybe the ratio is more from China who wanted for instant profits when the project got listed and completely sold everything to take the profits that they are after. The concept still depends from investors mindsets there's no certain venue or people to be exact.

[Xxmodded]

Have china open selling their own cryptocurrency? I check there not information about their coin assets have selling for public because China have banned bitcoin and altcoin as investment and transaction payment, maybe they want to adopt bitcoin again possible with bitcoin and altcoin have make many investor interested for joining bitcoin as investment assets or trading assets, with China want to open pre sale for the coin I think crypto world will raise up again.

[zeze18]

strictly speaking,issuing tokens and funding raise in China is illegal.

but sometimes,regulators not punished these token issuers,because they selected to create the foundation outside of China.

Yes just like in indonesia , one of big indonesia crypto exchange owner was created a cryptofoundation with his friends in singapore because in indonesia cryptocurrency is not regulated and was banned also.
I think it's the only way for the people who their country is banned from crypto

[Kotone]

Imagine why China have already some stablecoin in some exchanges. I think China is just playing safe when they announce the crypto Ban in their country before for what? So the market could plummeted and they can buy some of cheap major coins such as btc and eth. I guess Chinese are really good and very wise. No wonder they are almost the number 1 Country when it comes to global economy next to US. Im sure China will dominate also in cryptomarket.