Yobit.net signature campaign

[kaltun]

@bitmover

thx for your explanation and your time, its make more sense ...

wanna share few of my thoughts ( again):

I will give you an example.

After 20 pages of discussion (400 posts on the topic) you wrote this:

pls enlight us , why BTZC will grow ... whats so unique about this coin??

Your post doesn't mean anything. Spam.

i saw more members advertising about this coin, i really wondered , why this coin is worth to buy invest on it , so i asked whats so unique ..

ok its indeed one line , didnt thought this were spamming..

Look here, after 5 pages of discussion (100 posts) you wrote this:

same here, when the btc rose above 22k begin 2018 , i really thought , that was the signal of booming af bitcoin... i saw dollar sign , i even thought , btc hit 100k and after that 1 mln .... dreams 

reallity give me big smack on my face ... still recovering from it...

Which is doesn't add anything to the conversation also. You are just repeating something that is all over all crypto forums in the internet. Useless. Who do you expect to read this? Only if it is other spammer.

i reacted to this post and gave my experience :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5187756.msg52581729#msg52581729

indeed not to OP, but do i always react to op ??

If you didn't read previous posts, don't post.

so you read all the post what is posted before ?? even there are 20 pages ..

in real life , i am trying to be honest, be a riable/liable person, who (tries) always keep his word. saw to many shits  and shit people
ive been sinds 2014 active in crypto-world, been so many times scammed . pure due my naive personality , beleaving in goodness of the human being, and i wll be scammed much more, cause i care about people...

@yahoo62278, if you consider to accept me back for the bounty campagne, make an warning , like you did to others ,  i promiss ill behave.

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[bitmover]

so you read all the post what is posted before ?? even there are 20 pages ..

If there are 20 pages of discussion, everything that could be said was already said. You will just repeat what someone else already said. There is no pointing in posting on these threads (unless it is a very specific case).

You should look for topics with few replies (0-10), not with 20 pages of replies (400+).

I gave my thoughts about posting and merit and things like that when I began using this forum and it 100 merits. I think it is worth reading in your case. You can improve your post quality.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3306385.0

[Searing]

i just joined this new yobit signature campaign, i saw that yahoo62278 is working with them this is a security and a guarantee i'm sure everything will be fine...

Its the 'numbers' that is going to drive the OP's on Bitcointalk crazy..by that I mean the math.

IF every member of this Cryptotalk Signature Campaign (via Yobit) can post 20 messages a day...that is 300 messages a month potentially per participant!

At the (for Legendary) 0.00020 BTC per day....that was (from my math please check) 0.12 BTC a month potential or at $8,000 current BTC price = $960.00 a month per person

(again potentially that is MAX per month)

Here is where the argument for spamming comes in...that is 600 posts per person per month..then take that by 10x folk or 100x folk and suddenly all posts, even if LEGIT,

are all over the place for this cryptotalk campaign.

That is when the rubber will meet the road and then the OP's will dump the I'm a spammer flag on all these posts and ban folk for a month. So even if everyone did not spam

any messages and all were legit posts...it would be, IMHO, too much for the bitcointalk OP's to allow ...thus the hammer will fall. (Sorry to say that is good money)

Also from what I can remember from the first page, it is only open to SENIOR HERO and LEGENDARY right (need to re-look at OP page here). Not worth, IMHO, the likely 30 day

ban like last time. With the amount of folk that will flock to this campaign, it also will be a 'blanket' ban..you will be caught up in such, like last time, even if your posts were

not spam and legit. This is due to the number of increasing posts. Again, IMHO, the OP's on bitcointalk will just kill this golden goose and do a blanket spam ban and ban again

for 30 days. Again, it is the math multiplier. If for example the numbers were limited to say 40 or so folks, MAYBE, it would squeak by. But wide open like it is now..er nope.

Will be interesting if this campaign sticks or not....either way a lot of drama, again, IMHO. Anyway, maybe I'm wrong. Just can't see it at this point in time.

Brad

[kaltun]

i just joined this new yobit signature campaign, i saw that yahoo62278 is working with them this is a security and a guarantee i'm sure everything will be fine...

Its the 'numbers' that is going to drive the OP's on Bitcointalk crazy..by that I mean the math.

IF every member of this Cryptotalk Signature Campaign (via Yobit) can post 20 messages a day...that is 300 messages a month potentially.

At the (for Legendary) 0.00020 BTC per day....that was (from my math please check) 0.12 BTC a month potential or at $8,000 current BTC price = $960.00 a month per person

(again potentially that is MAX per month)

Here is where the argument for spamming comes in...that is 600 posts per person per month..then take that by 10x folk or 100x folk and suddenly all posts, even if LEGIT,

are all over the place for this cryptotalk campaign.

That is when the rubber will meet the road and then the OP's will dump the I'm a spammer flag on all these posts and ban folk for a month. So even if everyone did not spam

any messages and all were legit posts...it would be, IMHO, too much for the bitcointalk OP's to allow ...thus the hammer will fall. (Sorry to say that is good money)

Also from what I can remember from the first page, it is only open to HERO and LEGENDARY right (need to re-look at OP page here).

Will be interesting if this campaign sticks or not....either way a lot of drama, again, IMHO. Anyway, maybe I'm wrong. Just can't see it at this point in time.

Brad

nice said Brad, i ve been disqualified for this bounty , while i kept on the rules.

★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign. You don't need to write an essay with each post but one word replies in spammy off topic threads or streams of constant half-assed one liners will immediately get you removed. Please just put some effort in to your posts and you'll be fine.

i did'nt even get a warning , immidaitly ban..

if bitcointalk aloud the bounty-action , max 20 post per user , ( what i did btw ) you will be automaticly on spamlist..

why i am still "crying " about this , i feel ive being misjudged here... its not about the rewards that i miss , it's the feeling that i've been unfairly treated.

[bill gator]

i ve been disqualified for this bounty , while i kept on the rules.

★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign.

"Poor Quality" and "Unconstructive" are subjective terms. Therefore, the person that decides whether or not you are following the rules is the campaign manager. You don't decide what is poor quality or nonconstructive - they do.

Side-note, anybody else receiving .00005 per post, instead of .0002 or the stated rate?

[morvillz7z]

It's been what 2 and a half 3 days now and there are over 300 participants according to the latest data. If random people/spammers are still being allowed to join without any restrictions you could expect that number to grow over 1000 within the next couple of days. I know some are banned and others warned by yahoo, but how exactly do you manage that many people? I share the same sentiment as Searing and expect some sort of ban-wave if this toxic, spam-incentivized campaign prolong its unwelcomed stay here.

[abel1337]

i ve been disqualified for this bounty , while i kept on the rules.

★☆★ Rules ★☆★

Poor quality and unconstructive posts will not be tolerated on this campaign.

"Poor Quality" and "Unconstructive" are subjective terms. Therefore, the person that decides whether or not you are following the rules is the campaign manager. You don't decide what is poor quality or nonconstructive - they do.

Same thing on my mind bro. Cryptotalk has hired yahoo to provide the balance and to maintain forum rules. yahoo just did his own job to by doing ban hammer to those users who don't abide by the rules. A manager has their own rules on their signature campaigns which we should follow.

[johhnyUA]

Side-note, anybody else receiving .00005 per post, instead of .0002 or the stated rate?

I've got 0.0002 for my today's one post

Yobit is my favorite exchange and i am trading on yobit since last 3 years.  Since Yahoo is handling this campaign i am excited to be part of this campaign.
I am sure that yobit exchange gets a lots of publicity by this campaign

Here we have excellent example of how you shoudn't write your posts, or in short - useless spam   Yep, nice nickname of course.
Very symbolically in fact.

[mindrust]

All yobit had to do was reducing the post cap to 50/week but for some reason they are refusing this. Hiring yahoo is a step in the right direction but like searing pointed out, it is not enough.

People are being stressed for not making 20 posts every day. I know they don't have to but that potential $900/month isn't something everybody can resist. God, I see they are taking the risk of getting blacklisted permanently by yahoo.

If this campaign stays alive more than 2 weeks I can wear that sig too but for now I'll just observe.

[FIFA worldcup]

All yobit had to do was reducing the post cap to 50/week but for some reason they are refusing this. Hiring yahoo is a step in the right direction but like searing pointed out, it is not enough.

People are being stressed for not making 20 posts every day. I know they don't have to but that potential $900/month isn't something everybody can resist. God, I see they are taking the risk of getting blacklisted permanently by yahoo.

If this campaign stays alive more than 2 weeks I can wear that sig too but for now I'll just observe.

I think everything will be fine in this campaign and no one will be able to get "potential $900/month". Yahoo has already banned 35 - 40 people and few of them been permanently ban by the mods. This is just the first few days and most people have already applied. Current Participants and the futures ones will have to keep the post quality otherwise as yahoo said everyone is responsible for their acts and will be treated as per the rules.

So the question becomes is .01btc worth getting banned? Or whatever you can make before you get banned? The max per day is 20 yes, but I have already said I don't expect many to hit that max daily without it being spammy.

You control what happens to you on this forum, remember that.

[trumpman]

I don't like "snitching" people but if this shit continues I will probably do so.

It's so cringy seeing people in this campaign following my posts (I guess it's easier to find posts to comment that way) and leaving stupid replies on things and projects they have no idea about. They just quote me and write generic and often non-sensical bs.

[Mike Mayor]

I am very pleased the campaign is back and I was pretty upset last time it was taken down due to people who spam endless senseless nonesense. For me being paid just encourages me to be more active. It gives me a good reward for my time since I can take part in a discussion such as this one and then still be paid on top of it. If I was not paid I would not spend 3-5 hours or so on the forum making the extra posts because there will be less to show for it and you need to have some time to work and make money. If you being paid you can afford to and justify yourself to spending more time on the forum. So I am not against an increase of posts.

What I am against is people who are selfish and actually don't deserve to be paid. What will they do with the money? They are not very clever either. If you post well and often you will be paid well and often for a long term.
If the pressure builds up so much in your mouth that you start spraying utter shit all over the place that is where the problem is. You are just posting solely on being paid and probably have little to no interest on anything.
I bet these spammers do not even hold much tokens or bitcoin or even believe in bitcoin. Paying them is pissing away good crypto. I myself invest my pay and thus I support the forum and put money back into the forum instead of just taking out only to dump for some useless fiat. Pisses me the hell off. Not only do spammers piss us off they ruin everything for the rest of us. They will eat till they pop today and starve for then next few weeks. Why rape something away with shit posts when you can make good posts and secure a long term payment. They so stupid they ruin it for themselves and that is really the true meaning of ultimate stupidity.

I was so annoyed and upset last time the campaign was taken down. I posted for nothing and I see my balance is cleared. Thank you, spammers, you took my bitcoin and my time. Total assholes. They feel nothing and care for noone and I am tired of it. A large part of the money I make comes from bounty hunting and basically spammers are cutting in on my profits over here. I see it as a personal attack.

I will just report to yahoo weekly when I see idiots spamming. I am not a nasty person or take any pleasure at all to see someone lose their earning potential but if you try take my earning potential from me by spamming like a clown then I will report you and you. I am going to be quite active due to this campaign and will take note of other participants. I will never report you if you do not spam. Even if you make 20 posts in a day thats fine. Maybe you spend the entire day online posting. That is your life and your choice and if that is what you want to do with your time then thats fine. Write your 20 posts a day and spend the day online just don't start posting just for the sake of meeting the quota. Be talkative and enjoy your time here with the other members. It actually isn't very hard.

[spydee1522]

I am not accepting participants for this campaign. Everything is done on the yobit website, just follow the instructions above. I will however be able to ban anyone I feel is spamming, anyone with justified negative trust, or anyone breaking any of the forums rules as far as campaigns go.

Basically I am a quality checker. Yobit is still maintaining payments and all that via the website. If anyone has any questions feel free to pm me or post them in here.

To all you spam busters, I welcome pms from you if you want to discuss me removing a user you feel is spamming. I will do my best to keep this campaign as spam free as possible.

Will you mind making this campaign available to member accounts as well?

[Searing]

Again, to clarify...IMHO...it is the 20 posts a day x1 then x10 then x100 that will kill this campaign...if they limited it to say 25 posts per pay max per week...maybe

all would work out ...even if run through Yobit per se.

Again, it is the MATH...it is just gonna snowball ..and again...even if all posts would be legit the MATH above will be just too much for the Bitcointalk

OP's to put up with IMHO.

too bad, a say 25 post max per week and NON-gambling signature campaign might have worked with this...again...due to MATH above too big a splash

to survive..again, IMHO.

Brad

[yahoo62278]

Again, to clarify...IMHO...it is the 20 posts a day x1 then x10 then x100 that will kill this campaign...if they limited it to say 25 posts per pay max per week...maybe

all would work out ...even if run through Yobit per se.

Again, it is the MATH...it is just gonna snowball ..and again...even if all posts would be legit the MATH above will be just too much for the Bitcointalk

OP's to put up with IMHO.

too bad, a say 25 post max per week and NON-gambling signature campaign might have worked with this...again...due to MATH above too big a splash

to survive..again, IMHO.

Brad

I agree with you but all I can do is make suggestions to the owners. Ultimately it is their decision on what to do with the limits.

While we are on the subject I would like to ask what is different about this campaign vs any other campaign being run on the forum? I know everyone is gonna say 20 posts per day cap, but if those participants are posting constructive replies(yes I know a lot aren't), if they're not breaking any other forum rules, and the campaign is paying how is it any different?

The whole forum cannot get their panties in a bunch just because they see a billion signatures from 1 company. The company is advertising their product plain and simple and have the budget to do so in a large scale. It's no different than if bitsler decided they wanted to spend 10 btc a month.

No, i'm not saying that all participants are following the rules. I am also not saying that 20 posts per day is awesome for the forum. I am just saying if users are staying within the boundaries of posting constructively and following the forums rules that everyone should chill a little. If you don't like seeing so many signatures then go into your account settings and disable signatures from being seen.

45 users have already been banned by me along with 8 warned for their posting habits. Trust me there are going to be many more banned and maybe a few more warned. In the last 3 days between pms and checking participants I have had 2 minutes of time to think. I still want everyone to keep reporting users to me if they are not being constructive or post bursting.

it's a big campaign and I appreciate all the help from everyone. You really do make it just a little bit easier for me and save myself a little hassle. All you reporters deserve a pat on the back for contributing.

Special thanks go out to Actmyname, Oasisman, o_e_l_e_o, Dhoe, Halab, boltz, DireWolfM14, LoyceV, suchmoon, TryNinja, hopenotlate, morvillz7z, Judge-Dredd, and anyone else I may have missed. All of these users have helped in 1 way or another and all the help I can get is much appreciated.

Again, i'm not trying to say hey everyone come spam the forum. I am working on removing the bad apples everyday. Not an easy task. Not everyone is happy about it but I cannot please everyone either.

Keep the reports coming, it really does help.

[DGulari]

Will you mind making this campaign available to member accounts as well?

Yahoo isn't the one who decide that. He is ONLY maintaining the quality post from all Cryptotalk participants. If you are going to put the sig and registered as member rank, you will ended in yahoo's ban list on here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.0

[smyslov]

All yobit had to do was reducing the post cap to 50/week but for some reason they are refusing this. Hiring yahoo is a step in the right direction but like searing pointed out, it is not enough.

People are being stressed for not making 20 posts every day. I know they don't have to but that potential $900/month isn't something everybody can resist. God, I see they are taking the risk of getting blacklisted permanently by yahoo.

If this campaign stays alive more than 2 weeks I can wear that sig too but for now I'll just observe.

I'm also observing this campaign, I am part of the last campaign but I want to see if the campaign is going to be for the long term the first one is the longest campaign, and with a good manager on board I'm hoping that things will turn out good and you are right there's a possibility that they are going to change the rate and limit the post and maybe add lower rank members like Full Member, let's see.

[Sanitough]

All yobit had to do was reducing the post cap to 50/week but for some reason they are refusing this. Hiring yahoo is a step in the right direction but like searing pointed out, it is not enough.

People are being stressed for not making 20 posts every day. I know they don't have to but that potential $900/month isn't something everybody can resist. God, I see they are taking the risk of getting blacklisted permanently by yahoo.

If this campaign stays alive more than 2 weeks I can wear that sig too but for now I'll just observe.

I'm also observing this campaign, I am part of the last campaign but I want to see if the campaign is going to be for the long term the first one is the longest campaign, and with a good manager on board I'm hoping that things will turn out good and you are right there's a possibility that they are going to change the rate and limit the post and maybe add lower rank members like Full Member, let's see.

Yobit campaign has a history of long term campaign, the last one was just stopped because there was as signature ban.
This time around they are advertising a forum but once they are done doing that, they might also shift to advertise their own exchange which is yobit, with the same participants, rules, and etc.. that's my opinion , so this will last longer.

[Sancho18]

If there are 20 pages of discussion, everything that could be said was already said. You will just repeat what someone else already said. There is no pointing in posting on these threads (unless it is a very specific case).

You should look for topics with few replies (0-10), not with 20 pages of replies (400+).

I do not agree with your opinion. The forum has a tree structure and topics are its branches. There are no large trees with only small branches, and bitcointalk is a very large tree. Truth is not a nut, you cannot just crack it and say - I took out the core, the job is done.

[fudster]

Yobit does accept just about anybody in the campaign unlike the ones asking to post in gambling section. Not everyone is a gambler so most will just post everywhere and this campaign is just perfect for them. The campaign manager also in most gambling projects just asks few users, its not surprising they will be moving in cryptotalk campaign.