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September 27, 2019, 08:08:23 PM |
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We all know how deliberately yahoo and darkstar had fought against livecoin when they had an open scam accusation but I wonder how yahoo agreed to work for a services which is having worst trust rating? Most probably yahoo's account might have got hacked ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) . *Don't tell me hilariousandco was doing the same job for yobit in their previous run and why not yahoo now. Because, since then yobit's trust is totally ruined by themselves. *Don't tell me it is not yobit's campaign. Cryptotalk seems like yobit's sister concern or cryptotalk and yobit are partners. I do see alts of scammers too get negged. I wonder scripting an automatic enrollment portal like yobit for cryptotalk is that hard? If cryptotalk would have been having their own panel then we might not need this topic. *Recently cabalism13 tried for whitelisting yobit but ended up in neg.
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September 27, 2019, 08:17:09 PM |
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No.
During the last spam wave, Yahoo opened a topic to ask the community for opinions. The result was that we prefer to stop the spam, and that's what Yahoo is doing.
Banning the signature entirely was a better option though.
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September 27, 2019, 08:18:08 PM |
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Probably because managing Yobit’s campaign is better than having them flood the whole forum by themselves. Either that or they would probably get permanent blacklisted from having a signature campaign in this forum.
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September 27, 2019, 08:21:47 PM |
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During the last spam wave, Yahoo opened a topic to ask the community for opinions. The result was that we prefer to stop the spam, and that's what Yahoo is doing.
It is not just about spam but all about yobit's scam history and yahoo's reputation. Personally, I do not like to see a good manager is supporting a services which is having a bad history.
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September 27, 2019, 08:35:37 PM |
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It looks like a fight against spam indeed. And from what he wrote here he'll do quite a big cleanup task, reviewing the post history of all those users and banning the spammers.
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September 27, 2019, 08:41:07 PM |
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Change your inflammatory thread title - there is no reason to suspect that he's been hacked. He expressed interest in managing the campaign a long time ago and now he's been hired. It is not just about spam but all about yobit's scam history and yahoo's reputation. Personally, I do not like to see a good manager is supporting a services which is having a bad history.
You can "~" yahoo62278 in your trust if you think his judgement is flawed regarding Yobit/Cryptotalk.
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September 27, 2019, 08:49:57 PM |
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During the last spam wave, Yahoo opened a topic to ask the community for opinions. The result was that we prefer to stop the spam, and that's what Yahoo is doing.
It is not just about spam but all about yobit's scam history and yahoo's reputation. Personally, I do not like to see a good manager is supporting a services which is having a bad history. Would you rather some shitty manager handle it?
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September 27, 2019, 09:00:29 PM Last edit: September 27, 2019, 09:11:34 PM by Coolcryptovator |
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No, account isn't kacked. I can confirm since I have talked with him just now. So title of thread should be changed. However, previously Yobit signature was banned by admin due to numerous spam (not for scam). But spam happened due to there was no manager to prevent spam. So is it not better a reputed manager in order to prevent spam? I don't think yahoo62278 will allow any spammer. It is not just about spam but all about yobit's scam history and yahoo's reputation. Personally, I do not like to see a good manager is supporting a services which is having a bad history.
Even there was no any managers Yobit is running their campaign on this forum. Who could stop them? It's not possible to tag everyone just for wearing signature of Yobit.
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September 27, 2019, 09:03:22 PM |
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It is not just about spam but all about yobit's scam history and yahoo's reputation. Personally, I do not like to see a good manager is supporting a services which is having a bad history. Yobit has definitely had a shady past, but a big part of that is their previous reluctance to curb the spamming of the forum. We can (and have) debated whether they're scammers, and for the most part the evidence against them has been insubstantial. Many newbie accounts show up and accuse them of scamming this way or that way, and haven't been able to provide significant evidence. Eventually the newbies just stop returning to the forum, and disengage from the conversation. Does that mean they just gave up, or did they get compensated and lost interest in the discussion? I don't know. My philosophy about that is "where there's smoke, there's fire" but I'm entitled to my opinion. I choose to not do business with Yobit, and certainly won't promote them or their alternate forum. Yahoo's participation in managing the current campaign is by far better for everyone involved than the way their campaigns have been handled in the past.
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September 27, 2019, 09:10:09 PM |
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Yahoo is trying to help the forum by controlling the yobit campaign would be a more suitable title. I'm def not hacked and how could 1 think so by me taking a job that I normally do already? How does that scream hacked?
As I told Coolcryptovator on telegram, it's better to have someone vs noone watching their campaign. Otherwise its a spam shitstorm and you'll have 100 threads complaining about it like this 1.
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September 27, 2019, 09:13:01 PM |
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Yahoo is trying to help the forum by controlling the yobit campaign would be a more suitable title. I'm def not hacked and how could 1 think so by me taking a job that I normally do already? How does that scream hacked?
As I told Coolcryptovator on telegram, it's better to have someone vs noone watching their campaign. Otherwise its a spam shitstorm and you'll have 100 threads complaining about it like this 1. Don't take it personally, it's a no win situation. And like Abe Lincoln said; "you ain't gonna please everyone all the time," or something to that effect.
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September 27, 2019, 09:20:13 PM |
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Yahoo is trying to help the forum by controlling the yobit campaign would be a more suitable title. I'm def not hacked and how could 1 think so by me taking a job that I normally do already? How does that scream hacked?
As I told Coolcryptovator on telegram, it's better to have someone vs noone watching their campaign. Otherwise its a spam shitstorm and you'll have 100 threads complaining about it like this 1. Don't take it personally, it's a no win situation. And like Abe Lincoln said; "you ain't gonna please everyone all the time," or something to that effect. I'm not taking it personally, shocked it took someone 12 hours to make a post over it. They contacted me awhile back about this and I made a post about it. There were some for and some against and you're right I'm not gonna please everybody. They didn't hire a manager then and ended up being banned, which I'm ok if theymos decides to do that action again. Hopefully people see I'm going to help more then hurt but everyone is entitled to their opinions here.
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@Yahoo is a good and reputed manager so I trust his judgement. We haven't worked together although I wish we do that someday. Cryptotalk isn't Yobit exchange, from my understanding they're just using yobit advertisment management service to promote their forum which happen to be through Bitcointalk forum. Just like any other projects out there using Google AdSense to promote their business that doesn't give the project same reputation as Google, vise versa. Bitcointalk has been a host to numerous scams through project ANN, signature ads etc that doesn't make Bitcointalk a scam platform.
Judge Cryptotalk as Cryptotalk, if Yahoo managing the campaign will reduce the rate at which spam posts are been paid for then, that's a positive news. Only wish he was given more privileges like been in charge of acceptance of members that would had been a more positive news.
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September 27, 2019, 10:38:45 PM |
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@Yahoo is a good and reputed manager so I trust his judgement. We haven't worked together although I wish we do that someday. Cryptotalk isn't Yobit exchange, from my understanding they're just using yobit advertisment management service to promote their forum which happen to be through Bitcointalk forum. Just like any other projects out there using Google AdSense to promote their business that doesn't give the project same reputation as Google, vise versa. Bitcointalk has been a host to numerous scams through project ANN, signature ads etc that doesn't make Bitcointalk a scam platform.
Judge Cryptotalk as Cryptotalk, if Yahoo managing the campaign will reduce the rate at which spam posts are been paid for then, that's a positive news. Only wish he was given more privileges like been in charge of acceptance of members that would had been a more positive news.
Same thought dude, Its not yahoo's to be blame on. yahoo were caught on fire just by doing some manager's job (quality checker). As you said yobit were just a mere payment method here and yobit is not the one who were promoted , Its just that spammers were too quick to find out they can spam a campaign like these. or is it maybe the Cryptotalk plan to make them hyped up by making yobit as their campaign payment method ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) If it is their plan , Its starting to work ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif)
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I would prefer to see this campaign managed by yahoo than to see it managed by someone else who has no history here. He is known by being very strict when it comes to selecting his campaigns participants. I can't talk in his name but I think he wouldn't accept this job if they didn't allow him to ban spammers/cheaters.
But with maximum 20 posts/day, I don't know how he is going to be able to manage it and check all posts!
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September 27, 2019, 11:18:36 PM |
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I second this, Back then I asked yahoo whether he can accept being Yobit's CM, and I definitely got a positive answer, though at first, I was in doubt on how they manage to talk, then I finally got an answer on yahoo62278's newly created thread for their campaign. So far I don't have any questions, even with the withdrawal issues has been answered with a positive feedback. But still, if I will be asked, its still way more effective if they gave the whole thing to yahoo instead of working on their site.
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