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October 01, 2019, 04:46:09 AM
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I've watched a few of Spence's fights and the guy's actually good. Though definitely not in the level of Pacquiao even at this point of his career. It's likely going to be a clinic with skill and experience being the deciding factor. It's always been a trend in boxing for young upcoming guys to challenge established big names like pacquiao and mayweather. And it's quite amusing to watch these grizzeld vets school these kids.
That would probably be the scenario that we are going to witness, if he struggled against Porter, how can he defeat Pacman?
Spence maybe have the power but Manny's quickness, will give him a problem in using his power, we've seen how he beat Thurman which I think Thurman is a better fighter and if I'm not mistaken, Thurman beat Porter as well.

This will be a great fight and we might see a knock down if Spence will remain aggressive.
Possible another lift of of Manny's career, beating 2 undefeated champion in row. sounds good.

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October 01, 2019, 06:02:05 AM
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If we will compare the boxing records of Errolr Spence Jr with Manny Pacquiao, it really seems that they are far.
Manny Pacquiao - 62(wins) - 7(losses)  - 2(draws)
Errol Spence Jr. - 26(wins) - 0 (losses) - 0 (draws)

If every we can see a fight between these two great boxers, it should be also like the fight of Keith Thurman for sure. Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.

We should throw away youth if Pacquiao and Spence met, Pacquiao has proven that he still has the speed and power, our analysis now should be concentrated on how good their skills are and match their skills and power, based on their last fight which is always been the basis for future fights, Pacquiao has the edge, the training has a big factor so we'll see how we analyze things when the contract has been signed.


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October 01, 2019, 06:08:09 AM
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If we will compare the boxing records of Errolr Spence Jr with Manny Pacquiao, it really seems that they are far.
Manny Pacquiao - 62(wins) - 7(losses)  - 2(draws)
Errol Spence Jr. - 26(wins) - 0 (losses) - 0 (draws)

If every we can see a fight between these two great boxers, it should be also like the fight of Keith Thurman for sure. Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.

We should throw away youth if Pacquiao and Spence met, Pacquiao has proven that he still has the speed and power, our analysis now should be concentrated on how good their skills are and match their skills and power, based on their last fight which is always been the basis for future fights, Pacquiao has the edge, the training has a big factor so we'll see how we analyze things when the contract has been signed.

we should not disregard the age as a factor here because we are talking about 11 years of age gap. in some way, it has effect on their performance. however, training and experience will be crucial in this game!
if it will ever happen, the fight result would be interesting to know. just to see how far Pacquiao is in this boxing game.

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October 01, 2019, 06:32:11 AM
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Being the younger dude than Pacman himself, Spence Jr. can definitely last 12 rounds if we’re talking about stamina and him not getting caught in Pac’s flurry of punches. We know that even at 40+ years of age, Pacquiao still has the power, the speed and the technique to knock out an opponent younger and faster than him. I would gladly place a bet on Pacquiao’s moneyline and not think about the result much since we know it’s too obvious who’s gonna win.

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October 01, 2019, 06:35:35 AM
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(.....)
 Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.
We should throw away youth if Pacquiao and Spence met, Pacquiao has proven that he still has the speed and power, our analysis now should be concentrated on how good their skills are and match their skills and power, (......)
we should not disregard the age as a factor here because we are talking about 11 years of age gap. in some way, it has effect on their performance. however, training and experience will be crucial in this game!(....)
Well, if we are talking about the age then if this fight will really come and finalize then we can see a huge advantage on Manny Pacquiao especially on the odds, since when Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman fight, the odds already highly favor on Pacquiao since Keith Thurman is 30 years old, and now Errol Spence Jr. is 1 year younger, so we can expect more advantage to Pacquiao?
Since about the age already has proven since the fight between Keith Thurman and Pacquiao. Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
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(.....)
 Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.
We should throw away youth if Pacquiao and Spence met, Pacquiao has proven that he still has the speed and power, our analysis now should be concentrated on how good their skills are and match their skills and power, (......)
we should not disregard the age as a factor here because we are talking about 11 years of age gap. in some way, it has effect on their performance. however, training and experience will be crucial in this game!(....)
Well, if we are talking about the age then if this fight will really come and finalize then we can see a huge advantage on Manny Pacquiao especially on the odds, since when Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman fight, the odds already highly favor on Pacquiao since Keith Thurman is 30 years old, and now Errol Spence Jr. is 1 year younger, so we can expect more advantage to Pacquiao?
Since about the age already has proven since the fight between Keith Thurman and Pacquiao. Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
Keith Thurman : 29(wins) - 1(lose) - 0 (draw) - 22 KnockOuts
Errol Spence Jr : 26(wins) - 0(lose) - 0 (draw) - 21 KnockOuts

If Manny vs Spence would not be possible, I'd rather want to see Thurman vs Spence than Spence vs Garcia.
If the fight of Thurman vs Spence will happen, I think Thurman will win although I believe that he will become the underdog in the fight.

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October 01, 2019, 08:10:01 AM
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Being the younger dude than Pacman himself, Spence Jr. can definitely last 12 rounds if we’re talking about stamina and him not getting caught in Pac’s flurry of punches. We know that even at 40+ years of age, Pacquiao still has the power, the speed and the technique to knock out an opponent younger and faster than him. I would gladly place a bet on Pacquiao’s moneyline and not think about the result much since we know it’s too obvious who’s gonna win.

I'm afraid I would do the same, heheh...
Pacman is my man, I know he is gonna win the fight if 2 will meet and I also think for the 2nd time, Pacman will start as underdog in this fight.

Pacman was called as "the destroyer" in his early stage in boxing and later called pacman, but this time, I think it would be appropriate if we will call him again as the destroyer of undefeated record.  Grin

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October 01, 2019, 08:33:39 AM
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(.....)
 Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.
We should throw away youth if Pacquiao and Spence met, Pacquiao has proven that he still has the speed and power, our analysis now should be concentrated on how good their skills are and match their skills and power, (......)
we should not disregard the age as a factor here because we are talking about 11 years of age gap. in some way, it has effect on their performance. however, training and experience will be crucial in this game!(....)
Well, if we are talking about the age then if this fight will really come and finalize then we can see a huge advantage on Manny Pacquiao especially on the odds, since when Manny Pacquiao and Keith Thurman fight, the odds already highly favor on Pacquiao since Keith Thurman is 30 years old, and now Errol Spence Jr. is 1 year younger, so we can expect more advantage to Pacquiao?
Since about the age already has proven since the fight between Keith Thurman and Pacquiao. Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
Keith Thurman : 29(wins) - 1(lose) - 0 (draw) - 22 KnockOuts
Errol Spence Jr : 26(wins) - 0(lose) - 0 (draw) - 21 KnockOuts

Looks life Spence Jr wants some red on his record or he is just pretty confident on fighting the old Manny but still in my view Pacman will defeat him in via TKO and I will bet on that Smiley
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October 01, 2019, 08:43:33 AM
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If we will compare the boxing records of Errolr Spence Jr with Manny Pacquiao, it really seems that they are far.
Manny Pacquiao - 62(wins) - 7(losses)  - 2(draws)
Errol Spence Jr. - 26(wins) - 0 (losses) - 0 (draws)

If every we can see a fight between these two great boxers, it should be also like the fight of Keith Thurman for sure. Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.

I am hoping with you. This fight is an interesting match, far more interesting than the possible Pacquiao-Mayweather bout. The latter is probably going to become a running or dancing match inside the ring. But if the match will show us a Mayweather getting KOed or even knocked down and defeated, I prefer to watch it happen first before the Manny- Errol match.  Wink

Spence is a knockout artist, clearly his records show, but I think it will be a little hard to see that ability fighting against Manny Pacquiao. There will be a lot of respect for sure. There will be testing of the waters in the early rounds and if he can feel the strong punches of the old veteran, he might not push for it anymore. In the same way that Thurman had a good KO ratio as well with his 31-29-22 record but it didn't come out also against Manny.

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October 01, 2019, 09:32:20 AM
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Being the younger dude than Pacman himself, Spence Jr. can definitely last 12 rounds if we’re talking about stamina and him not getting caught in Pac’s flurry of punches. We know that even at 40+ years of age, Pacquiao still has the power, the speed and the technique to knock out an opponent younger and faster than him. I would gladly place a bet on Pacquiao’s moneyline and not think about the result much since we know it’s too obvious who’s gonna win.
Despite the age of Manny I still see him as a good boxer and if this fight is real for sure Manny will earn a lot because this is just a way for them to create it, a big business for them knowing that Manny still have a lot of supporters around the world. I will also put my money on the sure side.
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October 01, 2019, 09:57:51 AM
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After winning against shawn . Errol Spence Jr. said "i want Manny Pacquiao " on the interview . Are you guys still confident to put money on errol spence line?
For me in my own opinion its a big NO! Even this is not the right time to make a predictions.  And perhaps no need at all ?Lol . Imagine that kid want to box the living legend Pacquiao?  Oh my gosh it would be a next margarito vs Pacquiao for sure!  Lol just saying because i am now not empress on his skill after fighting shawn.  wherein they are totally the same what i mean no thrill like hide and seek behind their ears?   Ops sorry errol spence fans because Pacquiao speed and power is very amazing and there's no way Errol Spence  can place hes  head under Pacquiao shoulders.  Lol And it's like old man throwing a kid out on the ring. No offense guysl!  Peace!  

Think of it in this way: Pacquiao who is aged at 40, managed to win over Thurman who is around 30 years old. Pacquaio is slowly aging but managed to take over a prime Thurman despite the age gap and difference. What separates the two fighters are the talent, skill, patience, and stamina that made the difference on the fight.

With regard to Errol Spence vs Pacquiao, I think that Pacquaio still has the guns to fight but it would be very dangerous to his health if he continues to fight. The damage will be felt long-term once he retires. Not to mention, he needs to fulfill his job as a Senate in the Philippines since another boxing career would hamper AGAIN his priorities.

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October 01, 2019, 10:06:08 AM
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I've watched a few of Spence's fights and the guy's actually good. Though definitely not in the level of Pacquiao even at this point of his career. It's likely going to be a clinic with skill and experience being the deciding factor. It's always been a trend in boxing for young upcoming guys to challenge established big names like pacquiao and mayweather. And it's quite amusing to watch these grizzeld vets school these kids.

Exactly, a far from the big pay check if Spence Jr will fight Pacquaio next, it's also the experience that they can gain fighter this veterans, Pacquaio and Mayweather. We have seen Canelo fight Floyd early when he is still climbing the ladder, he lost, but the experience he gained from Floyd was priceless. As we can see after that fight, Canelo improved and now is the new p4p fighter in this generation.

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October 01, 2019, 10:32:37 AM
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I've watched a few of Spence's fights and the guy's actually good. Though definitely not in the level of Pacquiao even at this point of his career. It's likely going to be a clinic with skill and experience being the deciding factor. It's always been a trend in boxing for young upcoming guys to challenge established big names like pacquiao and mayweather. And it's quite amusing to watch these grizzeld vets school these kids.

He looks good because he haven't had fights wherein he was really challenge.

But look at his fight against Porter, I would say that Porter really did good in some rounds and exposed Spence. It looks like Spence has some weaknesses as well, he is not comfortable fighting Porter in the inside and this is the fight that Spence was hit so many times based on compubox numbers.

But since he has been calling Manny in the media prior to the fight, I'm sure that fight will push through next year since there are no barriers as both are advised and managed by Al Haymon.

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October 01, 2019, 12:03:13 PM
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I've watched a few of Spence's fights and the guy's actually good. Though definitely not in the level of Pacquiao even at this point of his career. It's likely going to be a clinic with skill and experience being the deciding factor. It's always been a trend in boxing for young upcoming guys to challenge established big names like pacquiao and mayweather. And it's quite amusing to watch these grizzeld vets school these kids.

He looks good because he haven't had fights wherein he was really challenge.

But look at his fight against Porter, I would say that Porter really did good in some rounds and exposed Spence. It looks like Spence has some weaknesses as well, he is not comfortable fighting Porter in the inside and this is the fight that Spence was hit so many times based on compubox numbers.

But since he has been calling Manny in the media prior to the fight, I'm sure that fight will push through next year since there are no barriers as both are advised and managed by Al Haymon.
Most likely it would happen on next year if there were no blockage or issues on this fight.If Spence calling out Manny then most probably this fight will proceed on.
Spence bit really hit up for many times but that fight isnt really that easy for him yet porter bringing out some good fight.All fighters had weaknesses yet theres no perfect fighter on this world.Just like manny where his agressiveness do had negative effects and we have seen it on how other good fighter do neutralize that.
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October 01, 2019, 12:06:12 PM
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Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
Keith Thurman : 29(wins) - 1(lose) - 0 (draw) - 22 KnockOuts
Errol Spence Jr : 26(wins) - 0(lose) - 0 (draw) - 21 KnockOuts

Take a look on their opponents. Thurman has been beating more elite boxers, while Spencer mostly fought against opponents, that previously fight only again their homeland boxers (means he fought agains almost identical boxing style).

These to boxers are different Smiley

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October 01, 2019, 12:47:58 PM
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Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
Keith Thurman : 29(wins) - 1(lose) - 0 (draw) - 22 KnockOuts
Errol Spence Jr : 26(wins) - 0(lose) - 0 (draw) - 21 KnockOuts

Take a look on their opponents. Thurman has been beating more elite boxers, while Spencer mostly fought against opponents, that previously fight only again their homeland boxers (means he fought agains almost identical boxing style).

These to boxers are different Smiley

Thurman and Spence should battle each other if ever the Spence -Pacquiao did not push thru, it's also going to be a mega-fight, they are both champions of that division, of course, Thurman is a former champion, Thurman deserves a second chance, he has a good fighting heart and his style is very much suited against Spence.


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October 01, 2019, 09:16:28 PM
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If we will compare the boxing records of Errolr Spence Jr with Manny Pacquiao, it really seems that they are far.
Manny Pacquiao - 62(wins) - 7(losses)  - 2(draws)
Errol Spence Jr. - 26(wins) - 0 (losses) - 0 (draws)

If every we can see a fight between these two great boxers, it should be also like the fight of Keith Thurman for sure. Since Keith Thurman was undefeated before the fight against Manny Pacquiao. But this Errol Spence Jr. is much younger, 29 years old and on his 26 fights, all wins, and really surprising, 21 knockouts on his entire 26 win games.
Well, this fight is not impossible. Hopefully, this will work out.

We should throw away youth if Pacquiao and Spence met, Pacquiao has proven that he still has the speed and power, our analysis now should be concentrated on how good their skills are and match their skills and power, based on their last fight which is always been the basis for future fights, Pacquiao has the edge, the training has a big factor so we'll see how we analyze things when the contract has been signed.
Although, Pacquiao was still in pretty good shape along with awesome speed but we shouldn't ignore the statement made by the young boxer (Errol Spence Jr) for he might also have a reason when he mentioned Pacquiao's name during his interview. Mind you, Tyson and Muhammed Ali also fought and beat boxers who are older than them during their prime

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October 01, 2019, 10:26:03 PM
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Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
Keith Thurman : 29(wins) - 1(lose) - 0 (draw) - 22 KnockOuts
Errol Spence Jr : 26(wins) - 0(lose) - 0 (draw) - 21 KnockOuts

Take a look on their opponents. Thurman has been beating more elite boxers, while Spencer mostly fought against opponents, that previously fight only again their homeland boxers (means he fought agains almost identical boxing style).

These to boxers are different Smiley

They are different but they are a good match if they happen to clash in the ring. I would say, Spence should stop chasing Manny and fight Thurman instead to make his own legacy and not on chasing a legend who doesn't care about fighting him.

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October 01, 2019, 10:40:33 PM
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Look at the boxing record of Keith Thurman and Errol Spence Jr., almost the same, Keith Thurman has a little bit advantage.
Keith Thurman : 29(wins) - 1(lose) - 0 (draw) - 22 KnockOuts
Errol Spence Jr : 26(wins) - 0(lose) - 0 (draw) - 21 KnockOuts

Take a look on their opponents. Thurman has been beating more elite boxers, while Spencer mostly fought against opponents, that previously fight only again their homeland boxers (means he fought agains almost identical boxing style).

These to boxers are different Smiley

They are different but they are a good match if they happen to clash in the ring. I would say, Spence should stop chasing Manny and fight Thurman instead to make his own legacy and not on chasing a legend who doesn't care about fighting him.
Manny Pacquiao is going to face him of course, this is a megabuck fight if Pac Man can't face Mayweather and Crawford, the best option is to fight Spence, he should not fight low rated fighter at this point of time he has the big momentum to make another mega fight and besides he is not getting any younger.


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October 01, 2019, 11:22:07 PM
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Manny Pacquiao is going to face him of course, this is a megabuck fight if Pac Man can't face Mayweather and Crawford, the best option is to fight Spence, he should not fight low rated fighter at this point of time he has the big momentum to make another mega fight and besides he is not getting any younger.

Manny at his age has no fear on fighting an undefeated boxer and I don't see any reason why this fight would not happen.
First IIRC, Thurman after beating Josesito López called Manny and that's why the fight happened, now, spence is calling Manny, so let's expect it will be granted, but then again, the undefeated record will be at stake here but in case loss, I know he will still be honored to fight with the legend.

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