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October 07, 2019, 09:25:44 AM |
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The real question is, did scammers sent this emails to registered BitCasino.io users, or to some random people from witch collected emails? Maybe someone was hacked and email stolen?
It was already mentioned and discussed how the hackers got the users' e-mail addresses. Maybe you want to re-read the post that you quoted to know the answer to your unnecessary question. This seems to be a different case
I think it's clear that he didn't read the full details. Your usual read the title and then comment posters.
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October 07, 2019, 01:56:26 PM |
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I cant believe that in 2019 people still got scammed by e-mail... I thought it was an era of y2k.
How can scammers have a list of "pre-defined group of players" ? Did they have a man "inside" Bitcasino? What do you think ?
Even in year 2030 people will still fall for those scams. They would have stopped the scamming already if no one trapped in it. They just send it to 1000's of users and if just 1% are trapped they keep doing it. These are called phishing attacks and gamblers / online users need to be aware of it. When we receive an email, we should verify its source and the sender. Usually there is little different in domain names which can be noted if we carefully see the email id. The scammers know that there are people who will believe the email is real and will act upon it without any verification This seems to be a different case The sender was authentic because emails came from a legit source which had been hacked (at least, as far as domain names are concerned). In this manner, it is not a typical phishing attack (if at all) as you would find no difference in domains. That likely explains why people fell victim to this attack as they saw that the source was authentic but they didn't expect it to be compromised (hacked). Really, if you trust the casino with your money, you would trust emails received from them unless they ask you something which they explicitly made clear in advance that they would never ask under any circumstances You wouldnt really notice it and you will able to believe it since it do comes on original source same as you said but if you are really that keen on anything you would really notice it out when theres already had some odd instructions that you would need to sent out some funds and with that you would really already had questions on mind on why such thing happen suddenly?
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October 07, 2019, 02:09:15 PM |
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Just read on lcb forum, that BitCasino.io issued a warning about circulating email scam. " It’s important for you to know that the email contained fraudulent Bitcoin and Ethereum wallet addresses where you were asked to deposit funds to receive future interest. These are NOT BitCasino.io wallet addresses, please do not transfer any funds." "BitCasino.io's investigations have confirmed that their third-party email software Customer.io was compromised, which resulted in fraudulent emails being sent out to a pre-defined group of players.
Currently, BitCasino.io found out that in 24 hours three transactions were made to the fraudulent wallet addresses, totalling 0.00037299 BTC and 2.0665 ETH. This situation and wallet address will be monitored further" This is why I don't easily trust announcements that are sent via email. My personal principle before I follow any instructions, I confirm first the email and ask my irl friend if he also receive that and we will both wait for the confirmation or like public announcement about it. It sucks to see that there are really people in every industry that will do this sort of things for personal greed. The reputation of not just that forum but also the whole industry is affected with this news.
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October 07, 2019, 03:07:41 PM |
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Just read on lcb forum, that BitCasino.io issued a warning about circulating email scam. " It’s important for you to know that the email contained fraudulent Bitcoin and Ethereum wallet addresses where you were asked to deposit funds to receive future interest. These are NOT BitCasino.io wallet addresses, please do not transfer any funds." "BitCasino.io's investigations have confirmed that their third-party email software Customer.io was compromised, which resulted in fraudulent emails being sent out to a pre-defined group of players.
Currently, BitCasino.io found out that in 24 hours three transactions were made to the fraudulent wallet addresses, totalling 0.00037299 BTC and 2.0665 ETH. This situation and wallet address will be monitored further" This is so unfortunate and I hope that at least very few people responded and follow the instructions in the email. It had been difficult in the part of those people who followed because they thought it was real by the reason it came from the real email of the forum. I really feel bad about what happened and I hope that this will serve as a lesson not just to those who received those emails but also to the team that manages the forum.
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October 08, 2019, 01:43:34 PM |
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This seems to be a different case
The sender was authentic because emails came from a legit source which had been hacked (at least, as far as domain names are concerned). In this manner, it is not a typical phishing attack (if at all) as you would find no difference in domains. That likely explains why people fell victim to this attack as they saw that the source was authentic but they didn't expect it to be compromised (hacked). Really, if you trust the casino with your money, you would trust emails received from them unless they ask you something which they explicitly made clear in advance that they would never ask under any circumstances
How can you know the sender is the real one? Because I have had similar situation before and I got prefectly the same email that asking me to send some money because he said that I was winning like 1 btc from lottery from X site. And the second time my email was hacked and the second site ask me if I have asked them to retrieve a new password? Because it has exactly the same email and the same name asking for the new password. So I think everything is possible with the hacking. So like you said to trust everything on what they said on email(perfectly copied email from the site you are playing), this wont do good things for you
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October 08, 2019, 02:12:18 PM |
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This seems to be a different case
The sender was authentic because emails came from a legit source which had been hacked (at least, as far as domain names are concerned). In this manner, it is not a typical phishing attack (if at all) as you would find no difference in domains. That likely explains why people fell victim to this attack as they saw that the source was authentic but they didn't expect it to be compromised (hacked). Really, if you trust the casino with your money, you would trust emails received from them unless they ask you something which they explicitly made clear in advance that they would never ask under any circumstances
How can you know the sender is the real one? Define the sender here If by that you mean an individual from the casino staff and not the scammers, then you can't know that. But you can't prove otherwise either as the sender's address is a legit one, i.e. the one belonging to BitCasino. In other words, this is not what is called address spoofing. As the Internet suggests, "spoofing is the act of disguising a communication from an unknown source as being from a known, trusted source". But these emails were not from an unknown source but from BitCasino itself (technically, from BitCasino's email service provider which had been hacked)
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October 08, 2019, 03:20:55 PM |
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This seems to be a different case
The sender was authentic because emails came from a legit source which had been hacked (at least, as far as domain names are concerned). In this manner, it is not a typical phishing attack (if at all) as you would find no difference in domains. That likely explains why people fell victim to this attack as they saw that the source was authentic but they didn't expect it to be compromised (hacked). Really, if you trust the casino with your money, you would trust emails received from them unless they ask you something which they explicitly made clear in advance that they would never ask under any circumstances
How can you know the sender is the real one? Define the sender here If by that you mean an individual from the casino staff and not the scammers, then you can't know that. But you can't prove otherwise either as the sender's address is a legit one, i.e. the one belonging to BitCasino. In other words, this is not what is called address spoofing. As the Internet suggests, "spoofing is the act of disguising a communication from an unknown source as being from a known, trusted source". But these emails were not from an unknown source but from BitCasino itself (technically, from BitCasino's email service provider which had been hacked) I received that email and it was formally authentic ( not spoofed or copied) but with a bit of common sense it was clear it wasn't an authentic email ( even if from the apparently authentic source) because they were clearly acting like scammers do. Every average customer should have understood that what was advertised in that email (invest in this address and get a % monthly return) if real would have been realized trough a special page on bitcasino site; and to join that program a customer should have logged in main site as usual with their login details. Infact very few people fell for this: if someone really fallen and those few transactions aren't from scammer himself just to show other poeple someone alreadu had joined investiment program.
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October 09, 2019, 09:20:11 AM |
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How do people still believe in these? Many such scamming emails come in my email every day. That's why I use an email to register on a website with which I just register. I know someone will sell my email, or fall into the hands of a hacker. Scammers can do a lot of damage if you are not careful yourself Thanks for sharing the information.
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October 09, 2019, 08:50:54 PM |
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I also receive some emails similar to this, remember to always check where the email is coming from and verify it to their support. Reach out them on social media like twitter, Telegram if there is something suspicious. Don't ever click sensitive links to avoid phishing.
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October 10, 2019, 04:39:09 AM |
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Even you received email from original source, but if asking for money by mail then obviously you have to verify that offer if really there is exist on their websites. That's good thing now you could reach them through social medias. Especially if you are involved with gambling and if that gambling sites is on this forum then you should check first their ANN thread. So that if there is any offer or bonuses then you would noticed from their easily.
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October 10, 2019, 06:44:39 AM |
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Even you received email from original source, but if asking for money by mail then obviously you have to verify that offer if really there is exist on their websites.
I think, even if it does exist on a certain platform, asking for money via email is not acceptable. In fact why would they do that? And not just find some investors instead of doing such scammy behaviour, sounds like a fraud to me. I always receive some messages like this up until now, well I do reply unto them with shitty messages, I do hate this time much, it is seriously irritating.
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October 10, 2019, 08:12:17 AM |
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An email promising such bullshit is clearly a scam and I don't understand why anyone would fall for such crap unless they are completely new to the crypto world and have no idea whatsoever about such scams.
This is why 2FA is important. Clicking on such links can relay your details to the scammer and they will probably try and hack your accounts, but 2FA will screw their attempts. Multiple scammers have tried doing the same to me in the past and they never got past my 2FA security. Be careful people.
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October 10, 2019, 08:28:41 AM |
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Just read on lcb forum, that BitCasino.io issued a warning about circulating email scam. " It’s important for you to know that the email contained fraudulent Bitcoin and Ethereum wallet addresses where you were asked to deposit funds to receive future interest. These are NOT BitCasino.io wallet addresses, please do not transfer any funds." "BitCasino.io's investigations have confirmed that their third-party email software Customer.io was compromised, which resulted in fraudulent emails being sent out to a pre-defined group of players.
Currently, BitCasino.io found out that in 24 hours three transactions were made to the fraudulent wallet addresses, totalling 0.00037299 BTC and 2.0665 ETH. This situation and wallet address will be monitored further" I think there is no one in this forum who will be involved in such SCAM initiatives. But it is always good to be cautious. People who follow this forum carefully can learn many of these problems in advance. It always makes people feel comfortable being able to ask questions here.
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October 10, 2019, 09:33:49 AM |
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I also receive some emails similar to this, remember to always check where the email is coming from and verify it to their support. Reach out them on social media like twitter, Telegram if there is something suspicious. Don't ever click sensitive links to avoid phishing.
Yes I just almost clicked on the fraudulent email and the email is almost the same, fortunately I see some information here and always check the telegram to ask if this is true, and the team said it was a fraudulent email. So we must be extra careful and careful to see suspicious emails.
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October 10, 2019, 01:34:23 PM |
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An email promising such bullshit is clearly a scam and I don't understand why anyone would fall for such crap unless they are completely new to the crypto world and have no idea whatsoever about such scams.
This is why 2FA is important. Clicking on such links can relay your details to the scammer and they will probably try and hack your accounts, but 2FA will screw their attempts. Multiple scammers have tried doing the same to me in the past and they never got past my 2FA security. Be careful people.
You're simply making some shit post in here.Did you tend to read up on whats being posted on OP or not? This doesnt pertain or do talks about hacking of accounts but rather this do talks about email frauds that do ask out some funds to be sent out by sites users. Usually we do saw sine fake emails but this one do make use their main email which its really deceiving for those people who do actually uses up the site. Verification or community feedbacks is highly needed.
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October 13, 2019, 03:20:24 AM |
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Yikes! How can even someone trust and send their funds without confirming the legitimacy of such a scheme xD I think they could have only scammed the 0.0003 btc, the 2 eth might be their own transfer because how can someone really fall for it and send 2 ethereum! Dayum!
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If that is problem from their third party service. They atleast giving refund about it, because that is still part of their site. But the problem is how to identify who get scammed. Maybe for fair, the dev must giving big notice in their site about scam email. For who get scam, hope can learn more about fake email, so don't get scam again in the future.
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Yikes! How can even someone trust and send their funds without confirming the legitimacy of such a scheme xD I think they could have only scammed the 0.0003 btc, the 2 eth might be their own transfer because how can someone really fall for it and send 2 ethereum! Dayum!
I hope you are right, I also think the same about those 2ETH transaction that both transactions were sent from the scammer to fool others but I believe most people are smart enough already to avoid this kind of scam attempt especially if the offer sounds too good to be true. Or perhaps the scammer sent those 2 transactions in order to claim refund from bitcasino (scammer acts like the one who is being scammed) ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) , so it is like a double-edged sword.
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October 13, 2019, 11:28:29 AM |
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I also receive some emails similar to this, remember to always check where the email is coming from and verify it to their support. Reach out them on social media like twitter, Telegram if there is something suspicious. Don't ever click sensitive links to avoid phishing.
Its always better to ask from support or telegram / chat, before acting on any email received. Phishing attempts are increasing day by day. If that is problem from their third party service. They atleast giving refund about it, because that is still part of their site. But the problem is how to identify who get scammed. Maybe for fair, the dev must giving big notice in their site about scam email. For who get scam, hope can learn more about fake email, so don't get scam again in the future.
Why the site give the refund ? The site has nothing to do with it. They did not email the people. Rather site has warned people to stay away from such scams. It is the responsibility of the gamblers / players to pay attention.
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If that is problem from their third party service. They atleast giving refund about it, because that is still part of their site. But the problem is how to identify who get scammed. Maybe for fair, the dev must giving big notice in their site about scam email. For who get scam, hope can learn more about fake email, so don't get scam again in the future.
Why the site give the refund ? The site has nothing to do with it. They did not email the people. Rather site has warned people to stay away from such scams. It is the responsibility of the gamblers / players to pay attention Well, there can be different views on this issue Really, BitCasino's clients didn't choose the email service provider as this choice was entirely on the part of the casino, right? If so, why should they get away with it and cannot be held accountable? Think of it this way. For example, if they hired somebody and that person then stole the money from the accounts of casino players or was negligent in doing his job and through this negligence the same story occurred (money got stolen), whom would you start to blame, that person or the casino itself?
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