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October 18, 2019, 09:47:35 AM
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Yeah, there is something in trading should be avoided, if you are a newcomer to this trading then you have to follow some basic things, some of three are mentioned very clearly, I also think that trading too much may bring a crisis very often, trade should be organized and planned in a way, otherwise all the taken steps would fall in a vain, also you must think twice before trading and the amount of money, never think that the high volume does not always turn a good outcome, I know a lot of events that small amount of money give back a large amount of profit so be cautious, another thing is that we should follow a method which is best suited to us so that we don't give much time and tension to maintain trading.

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October 18, 2019, 12:40:06 PM
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Trade too much

This is probably the very common case. Trade too many orders at a time. I once met surfing traders who traded hundreds of orders a day. Almost every day glued to the screen to transact. People who trade this way often hate to set stoploss, of course I still meet people with stoploss and they often take short profits, enter the market continuously and can say their trading history is very beautiful. , rarely see loss orders.
However, once they are at a loss, these traders are the ones who are most psychologically vulnerable, but because they trade often, they always put their capital and psychology behind the priority list. transaction plan. A single loss can make them more vulnerable to psychological and trading out of control. Even resulting in gongs and account destruction.
There is another case that is trade addiction. These traders often prefer to enter continuous orders. Sometimes they don't have any basis for trading, because they want to trade, want to be able to get in and out and see a positive account. But once they lose, they easily fall into the kind of revenge deal. Often new traders easily fall into this situation. In any case, it's still not good for traders at all. If you are at a loss in this case then do not blame anyone, you are the cause of your account.
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The trading volume is too large

This is yet another common case for trades that clearly show greed and desire to eat thick. No matter how good your analysis is, if you enter the market with such a large volume you are gambling. You ignore the probability of the market.
Trading volume is too large, which makes the trader psychologically if the price goes against the judgment. This proves that traders have no rules in capital management and gradually it becomes a habit that makes traders overlook stoploss placement. It is a very dangerous thinking, if keeping this way of trading, it is very difficult to go far from the market.
When trading large amounts, your account goes faster than you think. Once you lose money, this loss will cause you to lose control and make many wrong decisions and lead to losing money. So if you have a large trade loss, do not rush to blame the market or method. The number one cause lies in yourself.

Know too many methods

Many traders take a long time to read and save on trading and then apply to their account. The result is more than expected. Losing no more armor, losing to the end.
This is also the case without exception. The trading method is what makes traders the easiest to fall in. Rarely does anyone try to be patient with a method, learn every nook and cranny of that method to confirm whether they are effective or not, but the trader just keeps looking at the profits and then trading for a couple of weeks to see no results. is to find another.
When I know too many methods, it is easy for a trader to realize that I know a lot about trading, I go through many methods, each holding a little. But the final problem is that the trade is still inefficient, even though the trade knows much, sometimes it makes the trade make the wrong trading decision. Knowing too many methods easily makes traders lose confidence and frustration.
Best traders should not know many methods, just understand and know how to operate 1 to 2 methods is good enough. Left focus on managing capital and psychology. Slowly the results will be improved.
In short, anything too is not good. Everything should be at a moderate level, we learn a little bit each day, trade a little bit each day, forge a little each day. We go slowly, the results come slowly and go hand in hand throughout our trading journey. If you do not want to lose, firstly traders need to remember 3 things that should not be so in trading!
There are no limits or boundaries if you trade in good way and not indulge yourself in ilicit activities provided you have proper knowledge and skills to compete in the market and generate profits for your sake.But you have mentioned some good points for newbies in trading and they need to learn that they need not to be dependant on others like expert or trading groups who provide signals just to make their own profit by fooling investors.So be your own advisor.
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October 18, 2019, 04:33:41 PM
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Being an individual traders in this field of business, we shouldn't be greed at all times every time you decide to make trade in the exchange platform. Then, being emotional too, this is what I always saw to the most traders too, were it lead them most often to loss their coins or capital as well, and also we shouldn't be impatience if ever you like to apply long term holding in such a coins.
This is mostly traders lose because of greed and cannot control emotions. This happens indeed so traders should be cautious on our move when trading coins to have at least earning profit. Also, let's manage our attitudes during trading, our achievement in trading occurs in our hands.
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October 19, 2019, 03:52:03 AM
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trading must have characteristics that can control patience, not easily affected and avoid greediness because these three traits will only make you lose when complacent, trading must be careful and in my opinion if you want to get profits you should be able to avoid these three traits.

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October 19, 2019, 04:26:29 AM
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Greediness is not a good trait for a trader. The trader should not be greedy in trading and they should have a concrete plan to follow and that will help to stay focused and concentrated in trading. Trading is game which involve a lot of emotions but if you unlock the possibility of controlling your emotion then you will win in this profession.

When an opportunity arises, you can't really blame traders who will go for 3/4 or all-in when trading. We are humans after all--always filled with emotions, excitement/eagerness when we see something we know we can benefit from--it applies to everything. Greediness, on the other hand, is arguably a sensitive topic. Not that you're referring/labeling a person being "greedy" but I think the term is a perk in a way, especially when it comes to entrepreneurship/business, people that have this trait is very eager on earning money. Though this could be viewed in a very different manner, many people are accustomed to "greediness" as a "bad" trait, but I'd say otherwise.

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October 19, 2019, 04:32:17 AM
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Best traders should not know many methods, just understand and know how to operate 1 to 2 methods is good enough. Left focus on managing capital and psychology. Slowly the results will be improved.
In short, anything too is not good. Everything should be at a moderate level, we learn a little bit each day, trade a little bit each day, forge a little each day. We go slowly, the results come slowly and go hand in hand throughout our trading journey. If you do not want to lose, firstly traders need to remember 3 things that should not be so in trading!

Knowing a lot of methods is not a bad thing, it actually indicates that traders are person who want to keep learning.
Even when constantly changing the way is also not the wrong thing, could be done to find a method that suitable, fits in the sense of capital, emotions, the time the trader has.

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October 19, 2019, 05:12:19 PM
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For me, it depends on the person/ trader, which is his/her weakness in trading, but most reasons are emotions, patience, overreact. When it comes to emotions, its like patience because if you can't manage well your emotions, it ends up breaking all your plans and calculations. We all have a different range when we buy and sell, but if you can't deal patiently with for your profitable rate, I'm sure it will be different calculations. Also, some trader is overreacting that they panic selling their cryptos because of some fake news/ unreliable news. Smiley
Being too emotional when you trade is one of the most common mistakes that traders make and it can be one of the most costly, the reason for this is that you only need to make one mistake to erase all the progress that you have made for years in a single day, I have a friend that is a trader, he doesn't trade cryptocurrencies but he trades other markets and during two years he was able to obtain small but consistent profits.

And then one day he made a mistake reading the markets and he lost money, he lost months worth of profits and while that was bad it could have been fine if he just calmed himself down, but he didn't, and he tried to recover all the money that he lost in the next trade and he lost way more money as a result of that mistake.

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October 19, 2019, 08:50:55 PM
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one more, many people said that trading is a game, but i think that's wrong. because if it is a game, traders just do it for have fun, not serious to do
so, having perspective trading is like game should not do by traders. because wrong perspective can affect so much in the trading OFC
trading must treat like a bussines. focuss, accountable, keep learning, patience, hard work, research

 
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Greediness is not a good trait for a trader. The trader should not be greedy in trading and they should have a concrete plan to follow and that will help to stay focused and concentrated in trading. Trading is game which involve a lot of emotions but if you unlock the possibility of controlling your emotion then you will win in this profession.

When an opportunity arises, you can't really blame traders who will go for 3/4 or all-in when trading. We are humans after all--always filled with emotions, excitement/eagerness when we see something we know we can benefit from--it applies to everything. Greediness, on the other hand, is arguably a sensitive topic. Not that you're referring/labeling a person being "greedy" but I think the term is a perk in a way, especially when it comes to entrepreneurship/business, people that have this trait is very eager on earning money. Though this could be viewed in a very different manner, many people are accustomed to "greediness" as a "bad" trait, but I'd say otherwise.
We can't blame a person to become greed, it plays around even before in ancient times. A lot of ways that people could be in greediness, either claiming the power or in money matters. Most likely we are living in that way, even a President, even a businessman, we can't escape from this because we are a human and we live into that. It won't be bad or a threat to our life if we are doing in the right thing, not in illegality.



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October 20, 2019, 04:42:18 AM
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trading must have characteristics that can control patience, not easily affected and avoid greediness because these three traits will only make you lose when complacent, trading must be careful and in my opinion if you want to get profits you should be able to avoid these three traits.
Of course if a Trader must possess these three characteristics, because patience in trading is the most important point we have to have. In trading, You must be yourself, Don't trust too much of the trading signals given by someone or that you get in the trading signal provider group.

Trading is not that easy as people as thinking, we need perseverance, capital, a lot of effort to learn about different strategies, be ready with losses, patience, always be ready that not every time our technical analysis is correct, everything could happen too so we really need patience before we finally meet the altitude of success.

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October 20, 2019, 06:22:48 AM
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Yes I agree with you. Don't trade too much. Know your limitation on your capacity to manage and market situation. And the summary of your tips is do not greedy because it will drive you going to loss. All of your action here in trading business even a small decision will have a big impact to your investment,do make sure that you will think and study your every move.
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October 20, 2019, 06:47:56 AM
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Some peoples words don't matter to some. In trading we have different strategies that works for us. These strategies don't mean to work to all. This is why it is hard to comment on other traders when they are doing great. Multiple trades daily incurs many fees but so long as these traders are gaining and piling profits then they are doing great. I saw someone that have minimum of 10 trades daily in forex and he was doing great. He may lose some but he offsets it on his next trades.

 
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October 20, 2019, 07:01:38 PM
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For me, it depends on the person/ trader, which is his/her weakness in trading, but most reasons are emotions, patience, overreact. When it comes to emotions, its like patience because if you can't manage well your emotions, it ends up breaking all your plans and calculations. We all have a different range when we buy and sell, but if you can't deal patiently with for your profitable rate, I'm sure it will be different calculations. Also, some trader is overreacting that they panic selling their cryptos because of some fake news/ unreliable news. Smiley
Patience as always, we often read or heard this world in every trading venues that we will going to deal with this business. You need to bring a lots of this while working with your investment as you can control your emotions correctly if you have patience to analyze before you react with the any situational things that might affects your trading system.

Chances of surviving is much higher when you know that you can stay calm while you are observing what possible trading strategy to use in order not to lose your position.
Patience has been trait of apostles, saints and successful people. This is a rare trait and people don’t understand its importance until and unless they have taken some wrong decisions in haste. There are numerous examples where traders lose huge amount of money because of being impatient. Those people who are impulsive shall never ever do trading.
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October 20, 2019, 08:47:40 PM
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One thing that I believe is very important is knowledge, as this is what you MUST have if you are to succeed in trading. I find this rather easy and simple with YouTube and other platforms, as through this it really helps me to move forward. We can learn a lot with Crypto Videos or various other ways for trading, it’s all that makes you feel comfortable and is one solid option through which you can make good and consistent amount of money.
Make sure that you subscribed to an actual crypto trader,there are lot of youtubers pretending to be crypto traders just to get some views so we can't trust everyone,we also have to check other social media platform of that person,if he is actually good predictor then we can learn from him.
Exactly there are a lot of YouTubers who only make videos about trade prediction, actually they do not know anything about trading, but there are some genuine youtube channels and other websites which I use to get knowledge about trading because of which I have earn a good amount of profit in trading. So I think in trading patience and knowledge is the most important thing.
You forgot one thing "lucky", why is that? because even though you have enough insight about trading, but if you are not lucky it has no meaning.

For example, technically the support is at range of 1500 sat, and you place a bid at 1510 sat. If you are lucky that target will be reached, but if you are not lucky yet that target will not be reached.

In short, if the support is 1500 sat and you place a bid at 1510, because you are not lucky, the price only touches up to 1511 sat.

 
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Trade too much
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The trading volume is too large
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Know too many methods
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I like your information and this three are all the most common problems of a trader. At some point we don't know how different traders use this but they are able to gain profit.
Trading to much is not good but for some traders who master their own techniques will trade too much but will exit after lossing some small amounts.

Trading too much volume
This is a high risk, high reward of course it need to be calculated and all trade plans should be followed or adjusted within the market. Many high volume traders manage to earn.

Knowing many methods
It is good if we know and learn to apply every single method in a profitable manner or with a strong strategy that we can used.
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October 21, 2019, 08:53:04 AM
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one more, many people said that trading is a game, but i think that's wrong. because if it is a game, traders just do it for have fun, not serious to do
so, having perspective trading is like game should not do by traders. because wrong perspective can affect so much in the trading OFC
trading must treat like a bussines. focuss, accountable, keep learning, patience, hard work, research
Being emotional is one thing and taking decisions out of these emotions is other. We all are humans and this is impossible to be a robot for us. A trader can skip panic selling if he truly believes his asset and follows the simple rule of buying low, selling high. However, if a trader is trading with a new token and expects it to be a reliable and profit promising like bitcoin, that is not possible.
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October 21, 2019, 09:25:10 AM
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Trade too much

This is probably the very common case. Trade too many orders at a time. I once met surfing traders who traded hundreds of orders a day. Almost every day glued to the screen to transact. People who trade this way often hate to set stoploss, of course I still meet people with stoploss and they often take short profits, enter the market continuously and can say their trading history is very beautiful. , rarely see loss orders.
However, once they are at a loss, these traders are the ones who are most psychologically vulnerable, but because they trade often, they always put their capital and psychology behind the priority list. transaction plan. A single loss can make them more vulnerable to psychological and trading out of control. Even resulting in gongs and account destruction.
There is another case that is trade addiction. These traders often prefer to enter continuous orders. Sometimes they don't have any basis for trading, because they want to trade, want to be able to get in and out and see a positive account. But once they lose, they easily fall into the kind of revenge deal. Often new traders easily fall into this situation. In any case, it's still not good for traders at all. If you are at a loss in this case then do not blame anyone, you are the cause of your account.
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The trading volume is too large

This is yet another common case for trades that clearly show greed and desire to eat thick. No matter how good your analysis is, if you enter the market with such a large volume you are gambling. You ignore the probability of the market.
Trading volume is too large, which makes the trader psychologically if the price goes against the judgment. This proves that traders have no rules in capital management and gradually it becomes a habit that makes traders overlook stoploss placement. It is a very dangerous thinking, if keeping this way of trading, it is very difficult to go far from the market.
When trading large amounts, your account goes faster than you think. Once you lose money, this loss will cause you to lose control and make many wrong decisions and lead to losing money. So if you have a large trade loss, do not rush to blame the market or method. The number one cause lies in yourself.

Know too many methods

Many traders take a long time to read and save on trading and then apply to their account. The result is more than expected. Losing no more armor, losing to the end.
This is also the case without exception. The trading method is what makes traders the easiest to fall in. Rarely does anyone try to be patient with a method, learn every nook and cranny of that method to confirm whether they are effective or not, but the trader just keeps looking at the profits and then trading for a couple of weeks to see no results. is to find another.
When I know too many methods, it is easy for a trader to realize that I know a lot about trading, I go through many methods, each holding a little. But the final problem is that the trade is still inefficient, even though the trade knows much, sometimes it makes the trade make the wrong trading decision. Knowing too many methods easily makes traders lose confidence and frustration.
Best traders should not know many methods, just understand and know how to operate 1 to 2 methods is good enough. Left focus on managing capital and psychology. Slowly the results will be improved.
In short, anything too is not good. Everything should be at a moderate level, we learn a little bit each day, trade a little bit each day, forge a little each day. We go slowly, the results come slowly and go hand in hand throughout our trading journey. If you do not want to lose, firstly traders need to remember 3 things that should not be so in trading!


Good points, but I don't think trading too much is a problem in itself. Algorithms make a lot of money daily through high volume trading (you can verify this with a few google searches) and I believe that it's the trading too much without a plan thats the issue. If you plan to trade, you should plan to both win and lose as well, the psychological effect is only a side-effect and can easily be handled as long as you have a plan B for when a trade goes wrong.

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October 21, 2019, 11:56:49 AM
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Trade too much
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The trading volume is too large
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Know too many methods
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I like your information and this three are all the most common problems of a trader. At some point we don't know how different traders use this but they are able to gain profit.
Trading to much is not good but for some traders who master their own techniques will trade too much but will exit after lossing some small amounts.

Trading too much volume
This is a high risk, high reward of course it need to be calculated and all trade plans should be followed or adjusted within the market. Many high volume traders manage to earn.

Knowing many methods
It is good if we know and learn to apply every single method in a profitable manner or with a strong strategy that we can used.
Actually these three things can be something positive if we use it well right? Who says, having lots of strategies is a bad thing? but if you focus too much with many methods it will certainly make you dizzy right? The point is you have to be wise in using the methods and strategies that you master.
Then too much volume can also be a positive thing because you can make profits quickly because the market is crowded. And too much trading is also positive because it provides a large profit to you, all of that have positive and negative effects.
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October 21, 2019, 12:37:04 PM
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Trade too much
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The trading volume is too large
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Know too many methods
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I like your information and this three are all the most common problems of a trader. At some point we don't know how different traders use this but they are able to gain profit.
Trading to much is not good but for some traders who master their own techniques will trade too much but will exit after lossing some small amounts.

Trading too much volume
This is a high risk, high reward of course it need to be calculated and all trade plans should be followed or adjusted within the market. Many high volume traders manage to earn.

Knowing many methods
It is good if we know and learn to apply every single method in a profitable manner or with a strong strategy that we can used.
Actually these three things can be something positive if we use it well right? Who says, having lots of strategies is a bad thing? but if you focus too much with many methods it will certainly make you dizzy right? The point is you have to be wise in using the methods and strategies that you master.
Then too much volume can also be a positive thing because you can make profits quickly because the market is crowded. And too much trading is also positive because it provides a large profit to you, all of that have positive and negative effects.
I also agree with you, although everyone understands that too much is not good but sometimes we should not only look at this negativity, we should see the good points when we do something too much, as many methods will bring many ways to survive in many different markets. Large volumes or too much trading will not be a scary thing when we manage and monitor everything, should not be too in trading is probably too rushed, this market moves too fast making us forced to react according to but unfortunately, this is not recommended when it is very easy to make mistakes.

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October 21, 2019, 03:45:59 PM
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We can't blame a person to become greed, it plays around even before in ancient times. A lot of ways that people could be in greediness, either claiming the power or in money matters. Most likely we are living in that way, even a President, even a businessman, we can't escape from this because we are a human and we live into that. It won't be bad or a threat to our life if we are doing in the right thing, not in illegality.

I think you didn't even respond/reply to my post, you just reiterate what I've said.

People think that "greed" is a way of feeling, but I'd say it's a way of thinking. The decisions you made are all in your head, it is determined--even if it is wrong or not. That's why I argue that "greediness" is influenced by feelings. We could be driven by feelings, yes, we can't deny that but that doesn't change the fact that "greediness" is a choice.

So you are saying that human beings are innately "greedy"(?), could you discuss it further? I'm not convinced.

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