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October 03, 2019, 09:17:45 PM
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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
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October 03, 2019, 09:47:54 PM
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At first I thought this post was about getting tired of bitcoin price falls and can't wait for rise but it's a whole different subject of discussion.
Well, OP, everything was amazing, fun and interesting at first, I would call that time era of freebitco because that website introduced me into bitcoins. That time bitcoin wasn't commercial thing like it is now (can't mine at home, a lot of regulations on exchanges, KYC documents everywhere and etc).
That's getting boring but I'm still here because of bitcoin's possibilities, it's just nice payment method and consider this as an investment option too on long term.
If you can, get best it from it and use it for your needs, things get abused as time goes and that's why we have so terrible situation now. Bitcoin was nice when only few people knew it.

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October 03, 2019, 09:54:57 PM
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Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

Capitalism being capitalism, I guess. Venture capitalists and shareholders put in capital to get a return. Yes, they're being greedy. "Greed is good" was Gordon Gekko's famous line in Wall Street, wasn't it?

I sympathize with what you're saying but this all seems inevitable if Bitcoin is going mainstream. Companies see adoption potential and they want to monetize it. Meanwhile, it's big enough to be on government radars now. I miss the old days too but it's just the way things go.

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October 03, 2019, 09:57:59 PM
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Why not just take a break from all the crypto related stuff? Instead of quitting?

Sometimes it is better if you take your mind off with all the negativity that's been going around (bakkt disappointment, price going down, FUD, this community etc).

Just take a hike, enjoy your time with your family and friends for about a week and see how it goes for you? Seems that you have devoted so much time in crypto sphere that you are somewhat bored and burn out. Just my .2 sats.

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October 03, 2019, 09:58:37 PM
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You began your text talking about higher exchanges fees... Than you moved to jobs related to cryptocurrency, and in the end you were talking about a new hobby.
I think you are confused about what a hobby is. A hobby is something you liked not something that you use to make money (like trading or getting a nice job)

In your wall of text you didn't even mentioned the Bitcoin accomplishments, which were enormous: everyone now knows what bitcoin is, more people and stores are accepting it, banks are afraid, it is being used to help people buy things and small investors are buying it worldwide. The fundamentals man. This is what you should be talking about if it was a hobby for you.

Maybe you should move your focus from making money to understanding and loving the tech

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October 03, 2019, 10:10:19 PM
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Quitting is not an answer to those rants you have right there.What you all need and you lack off I think is some rest and enjoyment because you keep stressing out yourself on cryptostuffs and it really affects you because of the fact that you're in to cryptocurrency.
Try having some vacation and forget all stuffs about bitcoin for a while chill out your mind.

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October 03, 2019, 10:13:41 PM
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It can be alot to handle all at once.
So it would best to just disconnect from it for a while before it gets overwhelming and to the point where you can not cope anymore.
The stress of cryptocurrency isn't for everyone.
It is worse then investing into stocks if you ask me.

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October 03, 2019, 10:26:41 PM
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I too have frustrations as a crypto-enthusiast but this doesn't change my interest and enthusiasm around cryptoverse! Whenever I have time, I try to learn new things like coding and do other things that excites me as well to make my life more stress free and meaningful. I reckon what is happening now in cryptoverse a natural course of its evolution and we can't do anything to avoid it!

As what OP had stated, taking up a new hobby other than submerge himself/herself with crypto stuff would be great and OP should also take a little break, enjoy some other things that excites you most! Enjoy life! I suggest don't leave the cryptoverse just yet! You'll never know it will become more vibrant again as you know it! Smiley
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@op what is HR?
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October 03, 2019, 10:53:22 PM
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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.

I think you should give up and take a new hobby, Cryptocurrency is really not for you, just come back when everything is settled up, you can donate your Cryptocurrency to a charity or any one of us here, because if you still have Cryptos to hodl you will from time to time will look on the price and check if you are already rich, so save your worry and get rid of those Coins you have there.

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October 03, 2019, 11:13:11 PM
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End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
This part caught my attention. I never considered Bitcoin as a hobby, not ever. I am loosing money from it and I am gaining profits from it as well and I don't look at it that way because if I do, I will not take it seriously, I will treat it only as a side thing for my day job and I can't do that, Bitcoin helped me in a lot of ways like financially and emotionally. Emotionally because it helped me containing my patience.
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October 03, 2019, 11:16:50 PM
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Almost all of your complaints are generally aimed at what different companies and organisations are doing.  None of it is a fault with crypto itself.

It's only natural that companies are going to engage in rampant profiteering in a relatively nascent field like this.  For now, it's relatively easy for businesses to capture a monopoly at this early stage, but eventually this space will mature a little more and services will be forced to price more competitively.

Your solution is either to deal with better companies, or, preferably, find a way to cut out the middleman and do it yourself.  That's the most interesting part about crypto.  I don't see a gun to your head forcing you to use those services.  Tired of exchanges?  Explore peer-to-peer options.  Don't like the conventions?  Start your own.  It's up to you.  No one is going to hand it to you on a plate, though.  Because, as much as you might complain about these companies, they put some work in to get where they are now.  If you think you can do better, you'll need to do the same.

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October 03, 2019, 11:23:56 PM
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When there is growth this will be kept under surveillance, and the whales always try to find way to earn out of it in a simple way. This is the major reason for the market. We're into the early days of adoption on the real time businesses, maybe within few years of time this gets to be an alternate mainstream source.
Cryptocurrency has got lot to be done. In simple more things which are hidden behind the asset needs to be explored. This will boost you up to learn more about it. When you find more unique things automatically you'll be much interested towards using cryptocurrencies further.

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October 04, 2019, 12:48:47 AM
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I think you're confused right now, I can see in your post
Maybe you are unhappy because of the prices?
If the price of BTC was 20k, I'm sure that you wouldn't complain about

Sometime it's important to take some time off, without thinking in cryptos, do another stuff

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The Bitcoin and the overall cryptocurrency sphere is slowly maturing, and that also means things are becoming more boring, par for the course since finance and other heavily regulated spaces are like that.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

That's because of all the scams and unearned hype, people have grown to be naturally suspicious.

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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
Being one of the forerunners is really fun. A lot of new things crop up, lots of news here and there, lots of issues, controversies and such. But now, yes. Rich people just buy and sell and control the market with their wealth, ignorant people join and feel like they know everything and anything and do things that really degrade the quality of the community. Money was one thing, but feeling the belonging to the community is another. And seeing the community develop into greedy people, of course, those with pure passion towards it would feel bored. Would feel that their time and effort were not worth it anymore. I sometimes feel that way, but I already invested too much in this so it might be a bit too late to go back now.

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October 04, 2019, 02:21:20 AM
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You know, I wish I had a strong argument against the points you are making but I see a lot of what you are talking about. I don't know if you are on LinkedIn at all but the things you mentioned are amplified there by 100x. It's turning into a corporate shit show. You just gotta tune out all the noise and focus on what made you fall in love with crypto in the first place.

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October 04, 2019, 02:23:52 AM
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Finance is like that, something new comes along and everyone gets really interested in it, but then it matures, bad ways are found to use it, and the governments come along and regulate (usually overregulate actually) the product.

I think you're confused right now, I can see in your post
Maybe you are unhappy because of the prices?
If the price of BTC was 20k, I'm sure that you wouldn't complain about

Sometime it's important to take some time off, without thinking in cryptos, do another stuff
Not sure if it's a price issue with him - more of a regulation one, especially in his circumstance he's unable to do anything in his country unless he does huge amounts of KYC, it's almost like he's banned from crypto.

Good luck with your life OP, keep in mind, maybe in the future, the US will be much more lenient with their regulations, they are really shooting themselves in the foot here.

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If quitting is an answer, then there might be lots of people who will leave Cryptocurrency for their own reasons. We all know that Crypto has its ups and downs. Crypto has been through a lot so I don't think quitting would still be an answer to your agony.
If you're having problems with the rules and requirements such as KYC and other security procedures, you got no choice but to follow and go on with it. It's okay to complain since crypto itself isn't perfect but things would still depend on how we deal with different situations here.
Complaining alone won't help but you should know the next step to take if you're being stuck in a mess.
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October 04, 2019, 02:34:12 AM
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Well if that is the case you should just take a break. Remember when time gets hard in crypto your patience is being tested. I know a lot of people had been expecting a lot since the Bakkt, however the impact that was expected ia not as strong as what everyone was expecting. Well we cannot expect everybody who has crypto job to love crypto as it is, some are just here for profit not for the technology it self.

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Maybe these are some of the things adoption will bring, since the wealthy people are picking more interest in crypto they are trying to readjust the ecosystem to suit their standard, make it a bit more centralized and gain control over the market,
even exchange have to adjust to this new changes by making kyc mandatory for all who wishes to trade, there is nothing much anyone can do about it than to accept this new phase.

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October 04, 2019, 02:58:57 AM
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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.

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@Pipdips you do not need to quit because of higher fees charged by exchanges simply use Electrum wallet, and set your own fees but don’t set them too low otherwise your transactions won’t confirm.

He was talking about exchange fees, and due to high regulatory barriers of entry and legal risk there is limited competition when it comes to exchanges that won't try to rob or otherwise swindle you.

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Capitalism being capitalism, I guess. Venture capitalists and shareholders put in capital to get a return. Yes, they're being greedy. "Greed is good" was Gordon Gekko's famous line in Wall Street, wasn't it?
Gordon Gecko is the least of our worries today.  What is going on now is like what another member just posted saying it is a Corporate Shitshow. Couldn't have said it any better. It is like a bunch of girl power Meetup groups came together and decided to have all these Girl Power Crypto Conventions to be overbearing and make Bitcoin boring and take it over.

What I am really pissed about is how the crypto businesses are going to just hire hundreds of worthless HR people, and HR Assistants, and HR Interns, and ladies who say with that sick grin "I am The Director of HR"...  --Guaranteed to ruin cryptocurrency fun forever.

But even well meaning guys here are in this serious slump of negativity and "Can't be done" attitudes.  It's like we have symptoms of Brain Drain here at the forum.  Brain drain is when people come here to learn stuff but then they leave and take what they learned elsewhere.  Post-Satashi Bitcoin Talk is low retention and probably getting worse.

But what really bothers people are all the annoying HR women coming to ruin everything. Honestly folks... I think we can do better than this... yeah and the Corporate Shitshow too.  All, and I mean All of us who have followed Bitcoin since the beginning are leary of that grouchy HR women inflantrating Crypto Businesses Everywhere.  She just heard of Bitcoin like 1 Year ago and now she's got her ass sitting in some secret office and she is getting ready to fire any workers with life left in them.... you know what I saying.. you know..

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But what really bothers people are all the annoying HR women coming to ruin everything. Honestly folks... I think we can do better than this... yeah and the Corporate Shitshow too.  All, and I mean All of us who have followed Bitcoin since the beginning are leary of that grouchy HR women inflantrating Crypto Businesses Everywhere.  She just heard of Bitcoin like 1 Year ago and now she's got her ass sitting in some secret office and she is getting ready to fire any workers with life left in them.... you know what I saying.. you know..

Then if you don't have the skills/money/perseverance to run your own business, stick to working for companies which are small enough that they don't need to hire HR people, or the HR people wouldn't be as annoying as you're portraying them to be.

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I don't make the rules of the game, you're whining about something (and your argument might have some substance), so I told you what you can do to go around the problem. Smaller companies might not be able to afford the dead weight that some HR workers may be if they're 'worthless'.

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Don't quit so easily buddy, yes the market now is do depressing yet it has always possibility to pump again, never lose hope. You may be sad now maybe you lose some amount but you need to know that we need patience in everything. Don't get affected in FUD also don't be mad , do some other things you are thinking too much and become stressed in cryptocurrency.

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I also noticed that you focused heavily on "HR girls". Did you possibly have a bad experience with one specifically? Large companies need an HR department. Considering the risk levels of their responsibilities, they can seem annoying but most the time they are just trying not to get sued.

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I feel you are tired of waiting, but maybe I am wrong. But if yes, maybe you need to break for a while, leave the crypto sphere and enjoy your time as the other members said. Sometimes we need to leave from routinely that requires us to be the focus, so after we take a break, we can back with a fresh mind to see the thing that is happening now. If I feel bored with something, I go fishing with my friends, a day or two, leave everything and not talk about what we did before. We only want to release everything for a while and enjoy the time. It helps us to get a new spirit, and when we back to our routine, we can feel better than before.
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October 04, 2019, 01:15:11 PM
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You began your text talking about higher exchanges fees... Than you moved to jobs related to cryptocurrency, and in the end you were talking about a new hobby.
I think you are confused about what a hobby is. A hobby is something you liked not something that you use to make money (like trading or getting a nice job)

In your wall of text you didn't even mentioned the Bitcoin accomplishments, which were enormous: everyone now knows what bitcoin is, more people and stores are accepting it, banks are afraid, it is being used to help people buy things and small investors are buying it worldwide. The fundamentals man. This is what you should be talking about if it was a hobby for you.

Maybe you should move your focus from making money to understanding and loving the tech

because he is not talking about the accomplishment of bitcoin he is talking about why he want's to quit bitcoin/cryptocurrency and his reason is valid.
I also agree that bitcoin/cryptocurrency is being overrun by greedy giants today which makes it toxic for some newcomers. I understand his reason but for
me not enough to make me quit bitcoin/cryptocurrency.

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October 04, 2019, 01:42:07 PM
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You're free to do anything you want of course, but fundamentally Bitcoin & cryptocurrency infrastructure is being massively developed by institutions at the moment. CMEs already added futures and working to add other derivatives. Bakkt volume is increasing and there so many more institutions working on integrating blockchain and bitcoin within their infrastructure especially in the financial world.
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I also noticed that you focused heavily on "HR girls". Did you possibly have a bad experience with one specifically? Large companies need an HR department. Considering the risk levels of their responsibilities, they can seem annoying but most the time they are just trying not to get sued.
It is a proven fact that HR sucks up all the available funds of companies.  Look at what happened to college tuitions and books.  The reason they charge so much coincided with the rise of HR and all the worthless Admins they hire.  HR is a crypto wrecking ball.

You cannot argue it anymore.  I have HR cornered and the argument is closed/.  The people in this topic pushing for HR Departments???  Wonder what kind of crypto businesses they are building...?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Think about it long and hard kiddies.

Either way yeah, my clarity on this topic of crypto and Bitcoin has reached unprecedented levels.  At this point in the game I am like the Lawnmower man of Bitcoin.  I need a rest from this stuff.  Have fun gambling in these H.R. Crypto Casinos.... have fun being cut short by the HR Departments hiding behind the scenes sucking up all your profits..
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October 04, 2019, 03:35:57 PM
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cryptocurrencies are not a hobby - its a way of life
wake up and go watch the price ticker BEFORE having your first cup of coffee
read all of the bull run news only to find out that analysts have no clue ( and never had) and what was looking like a bulls run turned out to be a 2.000$ price drop
login to your wallet and see your balance equals zero and google to find out that your wallet provider went rogue
how can you not miss it??
but seriously speaking , bitcoin will be my passion forever , it has changed my life and I will be forever a fan , even if it drops back to 100$

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October 04, 2019, 03:43:44 PM
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I have been watching Bitcoin since the beginning.  Not new to the jibe.  Not really a Bitcoin hobbiest, but I am thinking of becoming one.
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October 04, 2019, 04:19:13 PM
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This stuff is getting boring.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.

You seem too busy concerned about external factors, such as exchanges. Regardless of what the world does, Bitcoin works the same. It is a coin, it's not supposed to be "fun", its just a coin. A better coin, yes, but a coin. It buys things, you can be paid with it, that's it.

Why do you care who has more or who has less? Its been like that in all of human history, and the coin didn't come here to fix that. If you don't exchange you don't have to deal with those "checkpoints".

But, if you think this was only a hobby, you were quite wrong. And it doesn't matter if you get personally involved or not, its here, and its not going.

Just do whatever it is you were doing before learning about Bitcoin, only difference is, prepare to replace whatever fiat coin you were using with it. If you act like it doesn't exist, you will probably miss even more of what you think you are now missing, you are only going to regret yourself even more later.

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October 04, 2019, 04:24:41 PM
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Why not just take a break from all the crypto related stuff? Instead of quitting?

Sometimes it is better if you take your mind off with all the negativity that's been going around (bakkt disappointment, price going down, FUD, this community etc).

Just take a hike, enjoy your time with your family and friends for about a week and see how it goes for you? Seems that you have devoted so much time in crypto sphere that you are somewhat bored and burn out. Just my .2 sats.

Best of luck.

the thread creator should listen to this, instead of quitting just take a break.
Leave your belongings to your wallet and have a rest. take a tour and focus on your job.
If you have a family then focus on them. you dont need to quit, you are here and you know that cryptocurrency is the future of the world.
Take a break and think of everything all over again.

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October 04, 2019, 04:32:40 PM
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So... What hobby have you decided to take? You talk about it but then never come to a conclusion. Do you know what a hobby is? Also, you complaining about separate entities and not crypto itself.
It is not fair to blame crypto for other peoples doing.

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October 04, 2019, 04:49:20 PM
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In the end cryptocurrency reached the point of saturation for some people. I will not blame anyone who thinks
that the world of cryptocurrency is really tiring. Because I've also had the chance to stop hoping that
Bitcoin crypto specifically can reach the highest peak like in 2017. Then my mind changed after reading the story
successful people. The point is to be successful, there are many ways, one of them can pass the crypto. Well at this stage
I am more optimistic in managing crypto, because basically I really love bitcoin. Therefore success can
emerged from what we like and love. Actually the main key is patience, let's keep up the enthusiasm and optimism that
the triumph of cryptocurrency soon materialized. so my advice is never to give up on crypto.

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October 04, 2019, 05:00:53 PM
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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.

I read through and the summary of the whole rant is the issue about the people at the helms of affairs at one point or the other. What I can see here is that people are by default capitalist and they would do everything to protect their bottom line. It is then safe to say that we are all ruled by our quest to make more money and even when that has been made, they move on to make much more till the end of time.

Since the issue you have is not bitcoin, then I don't think its enough to quit the cryptosphere. As much as there are pure capitalist to the extreme there are also individuals who believes in charity and doing good to the less privileged even though they are not popular like those other categories it shows there is room for one more person which you can fit in.
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October 04, 2019, 05:20:54 PM
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Cryptocurrencies and blockchain related business struggle in USA because of lack of clear legislation rules
It is enough to say that Circle moved from USA to offshore area.There is kind of scandal with LedgerX  physical futures.they have completed all needed paper work and still waiting on CFTC  approval. Bakkt has got they still need to wait nobody knows how long.Probably we will see emigration of blockchain start ups to more friendly areas but it can be not easy if developers are USA citzens
You can do with your  life whatever you want but crypto is simply still very profitable specially because halving is around corner

 
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October 04, 2019, 06:17:27 PM
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every crypto trader feel the same  to quit and come out of cryptomarket but patience pays off when we hold coins in crypto market
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October 05, 2019, 11:27:45 AM
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Many cases faced by bitcoin every country, Binance is nt legal in united state country but I am optimist bitcoin become higher and bigger one day later, I will keep trusted with bitcoin for the future will adopt by every country and banned country will make bitcoin as legal payment with how popular bitcoin it self.

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October 05, 2019, 11:45:10 AM
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I have been watching Bitcoin since the beginning.  Not new to the jibe.  Not really a Bitcoin hobbiest, but I am thinking of becoming one.
Its good to make a hobby that can create income to you and bitcoin is the best option right now. The bear market create a big panic and that is why some are hating bitcoin because of its price maybe because they are just a new bitcoin hodler. I’m also here for quiet some time and I’m loving it, no quiting for me.
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October 05, 2019, 11:57:05 AM
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At first I thought this post was about getting tired of bitcoin price falls and can't wait for rise but it's a whole different subject of discussion.
Well, OP, everything was amazing, fun and interesting at first, I would call that time era of freebitco because that website introduced me into bitcoins. That time bitcoin wasn't commercial thing like it is now (can't mine at home, a lot of regulations on exchanges, KYC documents everywhere and etc).
That's getting boring but I'm still here because of bitcoin's possibilities, it's just nice payment method and consider this as an investment option too on long term.
If you can, get best it from it and use it for your needs, things get abused as time goes and that's why we have so terrible situation now. Bitcoin was nice when only few people knew it.

Probably, it will be better in some situations to leave the market and sell what you have. Simply it is not easy to stay patient always when you see how Bitcoin is falling.

To-the-Moon periods do not happen often, and only the guys with steel nerves are waiting for them being absolutely sure that they will win finally. If your trading and investment bring stress, there is a reason to find some other business.
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October 05, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
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I don't find it boring especially with the current volatility. I also don't have much choice since Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the only way for me to make some money outside a regular job. For me Bitcoin is a future investment since I don't believe in social services in my country. I want to have some money of my own that's not in real estate or other things like cars and valuables. I want some money that I can hide with ease and use if anything goes wrong and that's Bitcoin!
I also want some pocket money every week for little things and that's where signature money comes in.
Every few months I get some additional treat like a Bitcoin-based airdrop or a nice giveaways that I can spend for electronics, car parts, things that make my life fun when I'm not staring at a computer screen. I won't leave just because it is now little more regulated.

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I don't find it boring especially with the current volatility.
current volatility ? im i the only one that i cant feel it now ? the prices seems to be stable now in a low price point .  bieng stable means boring to some people but for me no i dont find it boring because i dont have all my focus on cryptos  .

i dont give my 100 percent on it  . being volatile on the other hand is thrilling and exciting to some , they dont find it boring if cryptos only work this way  . maybe that is also one of the reason on why op loose interest  .
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End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
Maybe I can't feel what you are feeling right now but it is what is. Lets just accept the truth that people are becoming greedy when they are getting richer. CONTENTMENT. This is the reason why people are becoming greedy. They don't have contentment as their needs increases when their income increases too.

As they said, it is what it is. Instead of quitting about it, why don't you just chill yourself a bit and travel a bit or get some beer and watch some sports for the meantime and instead of quitting about it maybe you can focus on the technology behind it and learn from it.

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October 05, 2019, 01:04:47 PM
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You are thinking of quitting now. And here I am ( right now ) trying to gain back what I have missed for over a year in crypto world.

They are right. Quitting is never an option. Just take a rest like a couple of days. And think why on the first place why you were here. Why you were interested in bitcoin . Reasons why you are into bitcoin. And comeback.

And here I am coming back to bitcoin now for over a year.

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I do get that feeling sometimes but I have discovered that the more you read and research more about cryptocurrencies the excitement just gets back and you will reignite your love for these precious ones and zeros in no time, so find something that made you stick to crypto the first time Smiley

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I feel a little tired also because in the beginning it was all a new concept and everyone had this great optimism about the future. Unfortunately nowadays it has been taken over by scammers and big manipulators who just play the markets and into our small minds in order to control us in the process, instead of setting us free. Those ethics and dreams in the beginning of the Era of Bitcoin are long gone now and the Regulators are coming in to sort everything out for the Big Boys now.


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End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
Maybe I can't feel what you are feeling right now but it is what is. Lets just accept the truth that people are becoming greedy when they are getting richer. CONTENTMENT. This is the reason why people are becoming greedy. They don't have contentment as their needs increases when their income increases too.

As they said, it is what it is. Instead of quitting about it, why don't you just chill yourself a bit and travel a bit or get some beer and watch some sports for the meantime and instead of quitting about it maybe you can focus on the technology behind it and learn from it.
When we are being stressed out into a certain condition and we cant take it anymore then its normal for us to have these kind of feelings and reactions in life where we do mind on quitting.Most of the time we do rushed up into things on making decisions but we should think twice if the situation can still be handled or not.Losing interest? no one can stop you
if you do have that view but always take reconsideration and mind of important things and the benefits you had gain when you are still engage with crypto.Balance it out and realize if its really worthy to leave.
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the nasty side of me wants to tell you, "Goodbye and do not let the door hit you on your ass on your way out", but I am not that kind of person. A few years ago I felt exactly like that, but I held on and sold 50% of my coins for a 800%+ profit just  a few weeks after that. Things in Bitcoin turns on a dime and the one day everyone is super negative and then suddenly the price spike and everyone is in the clouds.  Roll Eyes

Do not let all the greed get you down, use Bitcoin every day and concentrate on the positive things. Exchanges are third party services and they are driven by profit. <This will never change>  Tongue

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I feel a little tired also because in the beginning it was all a new concept and everyone had this great optimism about the future. Unfortunately nowadays it has been taken over by scammers and big manipulators who just play the markets and into our small minds in order to control us in the process, instead of setting us free. Those ethics and dreams in the beginning of the Era of Bitcoin are long gone now and the Regulators are coming in to sort everything out for the Big Boys now.
No, you can ride them if you want. If we are down sometimes there are a lot of things that came into our minds and one of that is quitting. Well, all I can say is that you don't need to decide quickly specially when it comes to quitting so much better to take a break first and relax. Have some good time hanging out in order for you to be able to forget all the negativity so that when you are ready, you can go back again.
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It is a proven fact that HR sucks up all the available funds of companies.  Look at what happened to college tuitions and books.  The reason they charge so much coincided with the rise of HR and all the worthless Admins they hire.  HR is a crypto wrecking ball.

You cannot argue it anymore.  I have HR cornered and the argument is closed/.  The people in this topic pushing for HR Departments???  Wonder what kind of crypto businesses they are building...?  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes  Think about it long and hard kiddies.

Either way yeah, my clarity on this topic of crypto and Bitcoin has reached unprecedented levels.  At this point in the game I am like the Lawnmower man of Bitcoin.  I need a rest from this stuff.  Have fun gambling in these H.R. Crypto Casinos.... have fun being cut short by the HR Departments hiding behind the scenes sucking up all your profits..

Looks like the other poster is right  Roll Eyes You had a profoundly negative experience with a single company or two, and this is the topic you have fixated on. Move on, the world's woes aren't all due to HR departments.

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Why is it so bad? Do you think it would be better if this industry did not develop? You would see an old slow Bitcoin with a large Commission on transfers. Which would be worth nothing in principle. There would not be so many projects and so many new solutions. New interesting exchanges and new opportunities. I think you're just stuck somewhere in the past.

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Why is it so bad? Do you think it would be better if this industry did not develop? You would see an old slow Bitcoin with a large Commission on transfers. Which would be worth nothing in principle. There would not be so many projects and so many new solutions. New interesting exchanges and new opportunities. I think you're just stuck somewhere in the past.

He complained about high exchange fees, and that's a result of the industry 'maturing', i.e. regulation and enforcement making it harder to do business, means there are higher costs of doing business and there's less competition.

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October 05, 2019, 07:56:53 PM
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Quitting is not an answer to those rants you have right there.What you all need and you lack off I think is some rest and enjoyment because you keep stressing out yourself on cryptostuffs and it really affects you because of the fact that you're in to cryptocurrency.
Try having some vacation and forget all stuffs about bitcoin for a while chill out your mind.

It gets boring because the things he is expecting did not came true or the way he wanted it at least.


 Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.


Kinda disagree on this, being stucked on a university does not mean they are less creative. You should broaden your horizon to meet fantastic bachelors out there.  They are far more creative than what you think they are.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

Well that is how several members of this community feels like they are so intelligent that they know everything, and everyone that propose business is a scam for them until you convince them you are not which is somehow a bit hard  Grin.  We can't blame their mind setting since there are lots of scams happening in here.



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October 05, 2019, 08:07:23 PM
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I don't think you should quit. You should never quit. There is crypto to be made and spend and career paths to be followed and discovered.

Quitting is not an answer to those rants you have right there.What you all need and you lack off I think is some rest and enjoyment because you keep stressing out yourself on cryptostuffs and it really affects you because of the fact that you're in to cryptocurrency.
Try having some vacation and forget all stuffs about bitcoin for a while chill out your mind.

It gets boring because the things he is expecting did not came true or the way he wanted it at least.


 Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.


Kinda disagree on this, being stucked on a university does not mean they are less creative. You should broaden your horizon to meet fantastic bachelors out there.  They are far more creative than what you think they are.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

Well that is how several members of this community feels like they are so intelligent that they know everything, and everyone that propose business is a scam for them until you convince them you are not which is somehow a bit hard  Grin.  We can't blame their mind setting since there are lots of scams happening in here.




In todays age there is no need for collage degrees. Those are scams. You can learn almost all if not all of what you need online for free. It is the technology age so there is so much info out there that there is really no excuse.
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In todays age there is no need for collage degrees. Those are scams. You can learn almost all if not all of what you need online for free. It is the technology age so there is so much info out there that there is really no excuse.

Tell that to the company owner Grin.  They are the one who are setting guidelines on who are accepted or not.

I still believe in the foundation of proper knowledge.  You can tell the difference between a self taught and those who had undergone a proper education.  The era does not change the fact that education or a place for learning is always needed, whether it is on the internet or at the physical school.  The method maybe changed but school as it is, is still needed to produce a higher quality individual when it comes to academics.  A certificate degree is a proof of completion of course and they are highly acknowledged and often times required by the industry.



I don't think you should quit. You should never quit. There is crypto to be made and spend and career paths to be followed and discovered.

I believe he already had an aimed career but was hindered by the guidelines made by the company.  That is why he was frustrated reason for the rant.

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October 05, 2019, 08:50:17 PM
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i took along break from crypto lasting for about 2 years, nothing was realy happening was tired of all the same hype train going on for everything new and ending up leading no where.
thought about quiting all together and i did for 2 years, but i came back and found it fun again once i stopped listen to all the hype and just enjoyed it for what it is. its not going to change the world. but it a fun hobby Smiley and maybe one day it will change the world but i would not hold m breadth just enjoy it for what it is!
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Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.
All the business that started in the bitcoin market are done to make money and none of them care about the true value and vision of Satoshi. Majority of the early bitcoiners are also blind sided when money started pouring in and even they are not following the true vision and i wish to see true bitcoiners starting these exchanges which could really stand for the people and conduct a fair business.
Even i started early and used to mine but then lost interest as the scams started pouring into the market and there is nothing we could do to counter that. All we need is a fair market without any scams and if the early investors could join and come up with projects that could improve the market scene that would be really great to develop the market.
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Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.
All the business that started in the bitcoin market are done to make money and none of them care about the true value and vision of Satoshi. Majority of the early bitcoiners are also blind sided when money started pouring in and even they are not following the true vision and i wish to see true bitcoiners starting these exchanges which could really stand for the people and conduct a fair business.
Even i started early and used to mine but then lost interest as the scams started pouring into the market and there is nothing we could do to counter that. All we need is a fair market without any scams and if the early investors could join and come up with projects that could improve the market scene that would be really great to develop the market.

How the whole cryptocurrency industries turn out to be is totally sad but this shouldn't be weird to you guys because once some people notice the goodies of something the next thing they do is to abuse it which is what happening now and I don't think complaining or folding our arms are the require solution while we can still make some change happen by supporting project which still follow the vision led by Satoshi.

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October 06, 2019, 09:34:39 PM
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Why not just take a break from all the crypto related stuff? Instead of quitting?

Sometimes it is better if you take your mind off with all the negativity that's been going around (bakkt disappointment, price going down, FUD, this community etc).

Just take a hike, enjoy your time with your family and friends for about a week and see how it goes for you? Seems that you have devoted so much time in crypto sphere that you are somewhat bored and burn out. Just my .2 sats.

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Quitting is not answer of your boredom and lost of interest. Take time to rest and live crypto world for a while, it makes you tired staring on the situation that was not change but become worse as you stay on it. Take a break and enjoy the outside world. There is a best time for crypto which anyone that wait to come. Enjoy what your doing but do not let it be your only world.

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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
All return to the initial aspects and your intention to enter the world of crypto. If you come only for short-term profits, crypto isn't right for you. But if you come to dedicate some time to crypto in the long run, Crypto is a pleasant place. And in fact, the crypto world has many opportunities and good people in it. And they aim to make it easier for us as crypto users and the general public in utilizing crypto currencies in this day and age.

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I am thinking of Quitting my Interest in Crypto Currency
You should not.
All those companies you mentioned don't represent Bitcoin or any other cryptocurrency. They are just trying to make money out of this market.
If you don't like how they behave you should boycott them and look for better alternatives.

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In todays age there is no need for collage degrees. Those are scams. You can learn almost all if not all of what you need online for free. It is the technology age so there is so much info out there that there is really no excuse.

Tell that to the company owner Grin.  They are the one who are setting guidelines on who are accepted or not.

I still believe in the foundation of proper knowledge.  You can tell the difference between a self taught and those who had undergone a proper education.  The era does not change the fact that education or a place for learning is always needed, whether it is on the internet or at the physical school.  The method maybe changed but school as it is, is still needed to produce a higher quality individual when it comes to academics.  A certificate degree is a proof of completion of course and they are highly acknowledged and often times required by the industry.



I don't think you should quit. You should never quit. There is crypto to be made and spend and career paths to be followed and discovered.

I believe he already had an aimed career but was hindered by the guidelines made by the company.  That is why he was frustrated reason for the rant.
I'd like to think as well that college degrees and all of that is useless, but when it comes to get a job, you won't be able to do anything worthwhile unless you have a degree, and the only other options you have would be to work for minimum wage, or start your own business (but that needs capital).

For OP, I think it really depends on where he sees his life going in correlation with crypto-currencies. If he has a fine life and isn't looking to crypto to make a career, or make a lot of money out of, it might be best to take a break until regulations get fairer.

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October 07, 2019, 12:08:19 AM
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All return to the initial aspects and your intention to enter the world of crypto. If you come only for short-term profits, crypto isn't right for you. But if you come to dedicate some time to crypto in the long run, Crypto is a pleasant place. And in fact, the crypto world has many opportunities and good people in it. And they aim to make it easier for us as crypto users and the general public in utilizing crypto currencies in this day and age.
But OP never sees a crypto is a pleasant place. It is actually he becomes in troubled right now, he is really disappointed that Coinbase and Gemini increase with ther fees while his money stuck out there. It supposedly he wants to trade with them but getting mad when there is a huge change with.

@OP it is better to take some rest, you need space for you to decide what is best either to stay in crypto or withdraw all your funds and leave in this unpleasant place for you.

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October 07, 2019, 12:24:05 AM
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Nothing stays the same, just try to take a break, I had similar feeling and I disconnected from crypto space for one year. Now I am ok and everything is back to normal like it was before. About finding new hobby, I think is a good idea, having different hobbies is very helpful for your health, I personally like soccer and watching TV series and when I face those dark moments and bad feeling, those hobbies help me out. When I loss a trader, a soccer game of my fav team changes my bad mood and make it better, And the opposite  happens when my team loses and price goes in my direction.
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I believe everyone comes to this point. I understand your feeling but i strongly suggest to just take a rest and don’t quit what you had started. Everyday may not be as positive as we wanted but crypto is challenging and requires perseverance just to live its life. Tomorrow is always another day dont just quit and start over again and again. Continue, relax and never set back fella.

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October 07, 2019, 02:08:54 AM
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Tomorrow is always another day dont just quit and start over again and again.
That's easy to say but hard to do especially that you are not in his position. I understand your point dude but sometimes if yoy already feel that doing something is no longer makes you happy then it's okay to quit. All of us can understand that. I guess OP is now losing his interest to crypto because he felt it was boring now. If that's the case, I support him to leave but honestly the inner me hope he change his mind. I mean, of course it was a loss for the crypto community after all.



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October 07, 2019, 02:10:41 AM
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This is the outcome if we are looking for much expectations specially in investing area like cryptocurrency,services will always grow if the demand grow as well

The mere fact that you are updated in every Single news in crypto makes your frustrations arise ,that’s why sometimes it’s better to hide from news to prevent harder feelings
I think just like the other posters said why not just take a break,do your lust of finding another hobby then after a while check back the crypto market if still boring for you

What I’m hoping is you won’t return late if the mass adoption finally happens since nothing isn’t impossible in volatile market like cryptocurrency









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October 07, 2019, 02:14:59 AM
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Why not start a competing exchange that is lower priced, without all the overhead.  You'd clean up if indeed all this greed is accurate - and you'd easily be able to find investors to fund it if it is just about them being greedy.

I agree about extraneous overhead in colleges etc, perhaps here too, but that just means opportunity to do it better and cheaper.


This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
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October 07, 2019, 02:23:59 AM
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Tomorrow is always another day dont just quit and start over again and again.
That's easy to say but hard to do especially that you are not in his position. I understand your point dude but sometimes if yoy already feel that doing something is no longer makes you happy then it's okay to quit. All of us can understand that. I guess OP is now losing his interest to crypto because he felt it was boring now. If that's the case, I support him to leave but honestly the inner me hope he change his mind. I mean, of course it was a loss for the crypto community after all.
Indeed, there are times when we lose our hope in something we do. We have this feeling where it seems like this is not for us and we will not achieve anything from it.
OP seems to feel that way, he loses the confidence to face another day for some reason. also I think he considered a lot of reasons before having his final decision and this is what he come up.


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October 07, 2019, 02:38:01 AM
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This stuff is getting boring.

Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.

You have the freedom to do what you want to do, if you are not profiting from crypto industry then it will be best that you just quit or change your style.

Coinbase is a well known exchange and it's kinda sad knowing that they keep on increasing their fees especially if the increase was not influenced by tax or other responsibilities that they need to abide. As what I have heard with Binance, I thought they are creating a platform that is exclusive for US traders so I am wondering if it didn't work well as you said that they are kicking your ass in their exchange.

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October 07, 2019, 02:40:52 AM
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    This stuff is getting boring.

    Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.
    What's up with Gemini? It's a convenient exchanger, not a greedy machine like you claim.

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    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    It's not the whole community, have you met and talk to each person in the community? maybe you just unlucky talk to some wrong people with a negative mind.
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    Why not just take a break from all the crypto related stuff? Instead of quitting?

    Sometimes it is better if you take your mind off with all the negativity that's been going around (bakkt disappointment, price going down, FUD, this community etc).

    Just take a hike, enjoy your time with your family and friends for about a week and see how it goes for you? Seems that you have devoted so much time in crypto sphere that you are somewhat bored and burn out. Just my .2 sats.

    Best of luck.

    Don't quit that easily. Your disappointments are clearly not in crypto itself but in the people, the community, and the current system. If you will quit right away just because of that, then for sure you might regret it in the long run. That's why taking a break will surely help a ton. It's evident, based on your rants, how you spend so much time concerning about crypto. Looking for other hobbies and resting for the meantime will help you to have a new perspective in life. It will also help you to realize if being into crypto is truly meant for you or not.
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    Nothing is comfortable and convenient all the way you desire, everything has some positivity and also some negativity, If you are old staff then you could see a lot of potentialities in this platform, but it's also true there are some barriers to get flourished of this the cryptocurrency platform, I think it just a matter of time, Nothing is permanent and quitting from this platform will not bring any solution, When bad things come, then you see dark due to lack of confidence, It's almost 10 years gone, It's a lot of potential and prosperous for the future, who cares when people say negatively regarding this platform, that doesn't mean anything. so don't lose your hope and don't pay heed on talking what the people are saying about cryptocurrency platform, Do your job and Lets' see what will happen.

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    your post doesn't make any sense because you are all over the place.
    it is not rant, it is complaining about things that are not even related to bitcoin! if you are unsatisfied with exchanges, their fees, regulation,... you are not complaining about bitcoin. you are complaining about a company that is offering certain services about bitcoin. and not to mention that their rules only affect day traders not regular bitcoin users!!! and bitcoin is not meant to be traded, it is meant to be used as a currency so maybe your views are misguided.

    in short in answer to your entire wall of text, bitcoin is still the same decentralized currency that it was supposed to be from the start. you can still get paid in it as you do with any currency and you can still make payments just like any other currency. but when your "interest" is not in bitcoin but in fiat and how much profit you can make from bitcoin of course you are feeling restraint right now because of the regulations,...

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    ......

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    ......

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
    If you think so, why don't you make the same thing as their "marketplace" and make it a different perspective from them. Show everyone that your current outlook changes because of what you make. I think about changing people's perspectives is very fun for looking hobbies.
    I completely agree with your rant way of expressing how greedy they are, but in my opinion only expressing the conversation will not completely change the situation, it's okay to look for other hobbies.

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    October 09, 2019, 03:23:13 AM
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    If you want to stop in digital currency because you are bored with bitcoin now is weakening and at the end of this month, or other increases in fees in digital currencies, I think that is a big loss for you, I used to feel bored and I stopped using currency digital because bitcoin was very weak last year and when bitcoin went up again, I was very disappointed why I had to stop in the world of crypto currency in the past.

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    Those who are making money from cryptocurrency despite all these challenges that you have mentioned do not have two head, if you leave the cryptocurrency space now, it would not make any difference as we will have people to always fill up the space, so you will be the one at the losing end because of lack of patience mate.

    There is no system that is perfect, while many people are crying poverty in the fiat system, there are people who are making so much money from it just because they are able to learn on how to deal with the situation. All these challenges you have mentioned are what can be dealt with, you can learn to work through it. I am a trader and with all these bear markets, I am still able to make some ends means through it.
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    ......

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    ......

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
    If you think so, why don't you make the same thing as their "marketplace" and make it a different perspective from them. Show everyone that your current outlook changes because of what you make. I think about changing people's perspectives is very fun for looking hobbies.
    I completely agree with your rant way of expressing how greedy they are, but in my opinion only expressing the conversation will not completely change the situation, it's okay to look for other hobbies.
    I don't think he's being greedy at all, when companies raise their fees so high so that ordinary traders are literally unable to profit of the exchange, it's not them getting greedy, it's the company shutting down an entire market.

    It's a good rant, and it does showcase a lot of the issues with the American market and some of the regulatory issues as well as companies pushing regular customers out.

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    October 17, 2019, 06:51:07 AM
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    I do get that feeling sometimes but I have discovered that the more you read and research more about cryptocurrencies the excitement just gets back and you will reignite your love for these precious ones and zeros in no time, so find something that made you stick to crypto the first time Smiley
    I think that OP is more of an investor than a cryptocurrency user, because when it comes to using cryptocurrency for payments, I don't think that we have been disappointed in anyway, transaction have never failed except maybe we transfer to the wrong address, and even in the aspect of fee, it is much more better than using wire transfer which you would almost pay 20 percent of the amount you are seeing, the only challenge is the scalability and transaction speed which I know with time will improve.

    This is the whole focus of bitcoin right now and the investment aspect of it is just secondary, as we get used to this, cryptocurrency value will surely grow so we should look at the investment in crypto currency as future plan and not for today, if we look at it for today, that is when we get discourage about the whole thing.
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    We cannot really blame the exchanges for being limited to some countries. One of the reason why exchanges have limited or no access to other countries is because of the government itself. The policies of the government and their regulations are sometimes very hard on exchanges and sometimes they will ban it in their area. Such as binance cannot be accessed in the US because of the economic war between US and China. Also exchanges are also business and their biases is not just for themselves but also to protect their investors and users.

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    We cannot really blame the exchanges for being limited to some countries. One of the reason why exchanges have limited or no access to other countries is because of the government itself. The policies of the government and their regulations are sometimes very hard on exchanges and sometimes they will ban it in their area. Such as binance cannot be accessed in the US because of the economic war between US and China. Also exchanges are also business and their biases is not just for themselves but also to protect their investors and users.
    Indeed. There are some rules in each country and we cannot abide the law. If you really want to have that exchange in your country you may need a  vpn for you to open that exchanges. It can help you to hide your IP and get a new IP that will suit to their protocol.
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    At first I thought this post was about getting tired of bitcoin price falls and can't wait for rise but it's a whole different subject of discussion.
    Well, OP, everything was amazing, fun and interesting at first, I would call that time era of freebitco because that website introduced me into bitcoins. That time bitcoin wasn't commercial thing like it is now (can't mine at home, a lot of regulations on exchanges, KYC documents everywhere and etc).
    That's getting boring but I'm still here because of bitcoin's possibilities, it's just nice payment method and consider this as an investment option too on long term.
    If you can, get best it from it and use it for your needs, things get abused as time goes and that's why we have so terrible situation now. Bitcoin was nice when only few people knew it.
    Indeed, we are supposed to do and get involved in cryptocurrency to do what we are supposed to do, focusing on our own pace and minding our business and not getting affected easily by the movements and actions of other crypto enthusiasts that co-exist with us within the crypto space. You aren't here to expect for a fair deal and easy peasy lemon squeezy type of environment, our era is in a race of getting to the top and escaping the life of being poor so no discussion for the greediness, it is inevitable and you can't change their mind. What you are experiencing right now is the reason why before entering the crypto space you should learn how not to be affected by your emotions, otherwise, you'll end up being like this.
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    If you couldn't handle it anymore then just quit instead of stressing yourself.
    There are other ways to earn so if the other way is too stressful for you then you should find something that is comfortable for you.
    And I also get your point this is crypto this is Bitcoin it should be anonymity and gender shouldn't be an issue or something.
    But people would do what they want and that is why I am just ignoring it instead of being stressed out.

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    I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?
    I don't know about that, since it isn't like women are the minority of the population.  Maybe in the world of cryptocurrency they are, but not in the real world.  Anyway, women empowerment has been all the rage for a few years now so I wouldn't let that frustrate you.  More women in crypto would be a good thing in my opinion.

    And as regards all of those exchanges you mentioned, I also wouldn't let that frustrate you.  I'm in the U.S. and had to stop using binance as a result.  I'm in the list of excluded states unfortunately, but they aren't the only exchange in the game.  Kucoin has been my go to ever since binance made their changes.  Never used gemini and Bakkt is and always was intended to be for institutional investors with tons of money. 

    If you couldn't handle it anymore then just quit instead of stressing yourself.
    Erm, he could also try to stress himself out less without quitting.  One way to do that is what he already did, which is to spark up a discussion about what's pissing him off.  I think if one gets out of crypto now and sells everything, they're going to be missing out on a big opportunity when bitcoin finally starts getting back to its all time high.  Now's not the time to quit crypto.
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    Everyone is free to make its own decisions.but sometimes we have to think twice before we do something. In crypto world not everything is always going easy and sometimes we have more losses than profit or situation on the market looks boring.
    But try to have broader view and think long term. Cryptocurrencies are actually at its very begininig, so many new developments and achievements is still waiting to be done, cryptocurrencies will form our future. Don't you want to be part of it?

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    Everything changes according to the needs and desires of the community, buddy. Although there are groups of people trying to limit and adapt it to various kinds of excuses. At least it is an effort to make cryptocurrency closer and in accordance with the "circumstances" that they want and can control.
    Do not go, there are still many things that are profitable and you will lose if you ignore it. Rest if you are tired of this saturated market.

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    That sucks. Use other platform instead of coinbase where the fees will suits you well. Trading is not boring. Your Exchange is boring because you have not much choices to trade there. I don't why cryptocurrency in your country is meticulously picked. That's why there's no progress on cryptocurrency there.
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    This stuff is getting boring.

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
    You are absolutely right mate, the space is getting really boring and full of greedy CEOs and team members who don't give a dime about their community members but only the money they are making. I am starting to get a bit disappointed in Binance for some of its rules and high listing feels that it is charging off late. I invested into a whole lot of projects which failed because of pure greed. Projects like MiracleTele, Cryptassist etc. All these projects were really solid until the CEOs got greedy and absconded with all the funds of the ICO

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    I always pity anyone who gives out such message. You might be heart brokened by something in the cryptospace but one thing you should know it that, whatever happens in the market, we still have to endure for the better days are yet to come.

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    This stuff is getting boring.

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

    I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
    Binance have legal for trader from  United State where Binance have launching Binance US where citizen from Unite state can use Binance US for trading and investing altcoin or bitcoin, maybe still less altcoin kind listed with Binance US but after several weeks later Binance US will listed many altcoin kinds and make US citizen glad and happy become of Binance US part in trading or investing.

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    October 30, 2019, 02:02:23 AM
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    hold on mate, You seem frustrated. you tell stories as if you are bored, when in fact you are frustrated. there is still something you can pick out here, though it isn't as terrific as it used to be. You don't need to stop, try to take a vacation and reduce contact with cryptocurrencies that might increase your passion again. it is true that cryptocurrencies are full of greedness, many services are not like they used to be, day by day they incur huge fee, however if it's still profitable I think it's still worthed.
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    If we are tired now being in crypto space because everything change so fast, for me, the best thing to consider is for us to learn how to adapt very quick as we cannot continue if we're tied to the past that just brings us the happiness and wins, today, more and more market competition is being created. Earning in crypto is becoming not that easy, it is upon on us on how we should take advantage of the situations that we encounter. If you give up you already lose.
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    We cannot really blame the exchanges for being limited to some countries. One of the reason why exchanges have limited or no access to other countries is because of the government itself. The policies of the government and their regulations are sometimes very hard on exchanges and sometimes they will ban it in their area. Such as binance cannot be accessed in the US because of the economic war between US and China. Also exchanges are also business and their biases is not just for themselves but also to protect their investors and users.
    I don’t think making use of exchanges is as difficult as we think, the one that many people want which would have proved kind of difficult is the binance exchange and they have already created a separate platform for them which is being recognized by the united states citizen and I think that there are still some other exchanges like Coinbase and kucoin which the united states citizens are using which I think is okay once these ones are available to them.

    There will always be challenges everywhere, but this challenge is not enough for us to really quit the crypto sphere, if we quit the crypto sphere, it would still not change the level of things, there are people that will still be coping with the system and making money while we may just be busy looking at the problem available.
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    November 01, 2019, 05:17:01 PM
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    This stuff is getting boring.

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

    I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
    Every one have reason why have quitting with investing in bitcoin and altcoin, maybe still remember with bitcoin buy on higher price above $15K last 2017 and now they will quit and resign with bitcoin investing because price have dump, but some person never give up how much lost with bitcoin because keep trusted bitcoin will give profit at the future with higher price.
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    November 01, 2019, 08:10:06 PM
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    If quitting is an answer, then there might be lots of people who will leave Cryptocurrency for their own reasons. We all know that Crypto has its ups and downs. Crypto has been through a lot so I don't think quitting would still be an answer to your agony.
    If you're having problems with the rules and requirements such as KYC and other security procedures, you got no choice but to follow and go on with it. It's okay to complain since crypto itself isn't perfect but things would still depend on how we deal with different situations here.
    Complaining alone won't help but you should know the next step to take if you're being stuck in a mess.
    I don't see any valid reasons for him to quit the cryptospace there are several credible and trusted exchange apart from coinbase whose requirement for KYC is not mandatory and and has withdrawal limit before KYC why quitting? yobit and some other ones has a low trading fee and allow US traders and they are not too greedy there are also male cryptocurrency meet up and convention around the cryptospace.

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    November 01, 2019, 08:16:11 PM
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    Cryptospace won't easily gets bored, as the market is not the same as other markets there is regular price fluctuations. This means we can experience different forms of trade fluctuations which get us profit as well as loss. Upon the same we need to be more careful in handling each and every trade process. This means there will be predictions which makes market so enjoyable. There is nothing to quit his interest in cryptocurrency.

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    Cryptospace won't easily gets bored, as the market is not the same as other markets there is regular price fluctuations. This means we can experience different forms of trade fluctuations which get us profit as well as loss. Upon the same we need to be more careful in handling each and every trade process. This means there will be predictions which makes market so enjoyable. There is nothing to quit his interest in cryptocurrency.
    You should wait for the right time that the market will recover. It is actually normal that the market experience the downfall since we all know that the cryptocurrency’s nature is that it is volatile in terms of price meaning that it is changing time by time. Do not  lose hope just because you don't  earning money right now. Patience is a virtue. We should have patience for us to earn bigger money that we want. Do not lose hope and have courage to earn money. Do not quit, maybe it is not a good time as of now but we should wait. It is a good investment and not only that, it is also our future.
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    Cryptospace won't easily gets bored, as the market is not the same as other markets there is regular price fluctuations. This means we can experience different forms of trade fluctuations which get us profit as well as loss. Upon the same we need to be more careful in handling each and every trade process. This means there will be predictions which makes market so enjoyable. There is nothing to quit his interest in cryptocurrency.
    You should wait for the right time that the market will recover. It is actually normal that the market experience the downfall since we all know that the cryptocurrency’s nature is that it is volatile in terms of price meaning that it is changing time by time. Do not  lose hope just because you don't  earning money right now. Patience is a virtue. We should have patience for us to earn bigger money that we want. Do not lose hope and have courage to earn money. Do not quit, maybe it is not a good time as of now but we should wait. It is a good investment and not only that, it is also our future.

    There is nothing instant with everything, we cannot really have everything that we want, sometimes, it takes a lot of patience before we can get the things we need and we prayed. For now, quitting in crypto is not the key, it is still one way for us to become successful, quitters are the ones who are losing the most, we should not give up, as everything happens for a reason.
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    This stuff is getting boring.

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

    I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.

    It seems you have been into a lot of things here in Cryptocurrency, you have a good observation power, and you have note all the negative things about Cryptocurrency it's people and those part of the industry, it's ok to have a rant but have you weigh everything the good and the bad aspects for you to decide to leave Cryptocurrency, you can go and take a  time out for a month of two so you can feel better
    and come back a lot of things are happening here and you don't want to miss all the actions.
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    November 05, 2019, 03:53:01 PM
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    This stuff is getting boring.

    Coinbase Pro recently raised it's fees so high as to block out ordinary traders.  Binance kicked out USA traders.  Bakkt is not going to be too much different as they just keep raising the bar and implementing more rules and regulations, making crypto boring.  Gemini is just a greed machine too, while the people who own Gemini are already ultra ultra wealthy, and they just want to keep becoming more and more greedy.

    It is just one thing after another everyday and it is all really boring news too.  Bitcoin is all just a bunch of greediness and politics now a days.  This is not a fun environment anymore.  It is taken over by greedy exchanges that are already rich, and they do not have to be greedy either, but the people who run the shows just sorta stuck on creating this stuff I guess.  It is taken over by people who's entire focus is just being greedy.

    The actual cryptocurrency businesses out there that employ people are starting to get overloaded with pointless HR style jobs and soon half the industry will just be grouchy HR people, or grouchy bank people.  Also the crypto businesses all require college degrees, which basically guarantees that less creative people will be in there doing anything interesting.  It will be similar to how college administration departments became over run by tons of interns who are paid to just push paper and it makes college diplomas too expensive for anybody to obtain without going broke and into debt.

    I also do not like all of the female-only cryptocurrency conventions and meet ups.  Why are they female-only?  Those are like giant planning committees that are planning to just take over and then add more and more worthless HR jobs into cryptocurrency company structure.  It really sucks.  It is like the whole industry is being taken over by lamo's who really do not have much interest in crypto but they can get jobs related to this stuff, and they can get in on some greedy level making everything unsustainable for everyone else.

    Interesting.  There is negativity in the whole community too.  Try talking to anybody about your entrepreneurship concepts and everybody just throws mud on it like a bunch of Negative Ninnys.

    End of rant.  I am thinking of taking up a new hobby.
    Cryptocurrencies is decentralized indeed  however, it seems government or people who have authority and rich people who owns exchanges are limiting the usage of this technology so basically they are more likely indirectly manipulating the market. However, this will not be an enough reason for me to quit crypto industry but rather I will take this as a challenge and try to overcome this issues. Just be optimistic or believe for the uptrend to come and perhaps that would take away your boredom towards crypto.

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