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October 15, 2019, 04:51:16 AM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
All these coins, in reality, do not have value at all, until they get in the market and traders start trading them, it's the supply and demand in the market that sets the price, do not be deceived that if you are going to get 50% off you are going to make a profit right away, unless you see that it's the price that traders are putting on that coin, do not carry this kind of thinking when buying, check the platform whitepaper and full details. then you will have the idea.
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October 15, 2019, 08:50:27 AM |
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I think they don't have trust in their own project, so give a 50% bonus to investors. Yes, it is part of marketing, but some people judge that they will not glance at this kind of project because it will end up with a price that is not in accordance with the promise when entering the exchange. It's better to buy when it's on the market than having to go to the store.
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October 16, 2019, 08:21:34 AM |
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It is actually more difficult than it looks, people think it is easy to start a project and run it, when you have millions of dollars funded everyone expects you to be suddenly awesome, do you realize how many tokens and coins out there?
There are literally thousands of coins out there, in order to be different than all the others you have to do so many things differently and yet it is still not enough most of the time, you spend millions on developers, designers and even marketers but as long as there is not enough attention to your coin you can't get people to look at you by force, they need to start looking at you and tell other people as well. It is really difficult, I have seen an ICO that got 6 million dollars in funding go bankrupt and even spent 250k of owners money while at it.
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October 17, 2019, 06:47:32 AM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
This is one of the criteria that I am already using to filter some of the projects that I get to participate in, most of these projects with huge rewards are just scam projects, they only use that to entice the investors to bring their money, because in this era where we have lots of investors that are only seeing the project not for what they stand for , but for the profit that they get to gain from them. These developers should know already that 50 percent reward are some of the rewards that will crash the market and I think they don’t care, because this is one of the easiest ways to exit the market. If a project fails as a result of dumping, everyone would just blame it on dumping without knowing that it is actually a tactic from the developer to exit the market finally.
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October 17, 2019, 07:14:32 AM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
For new projects, it is usual to give a large discount to the initial investor. Competition to seize investor funds for new projects is very tight and one of the ways to attract them is to provide a large discount. If the project is good, even though it doesn't offer a big discount, I think investors will still be interested
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October 17, 2019, 07:20:02 AM |
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But in fact today many projects are dead and all of them do not provide much benefit to the participants. they even left no updates on the clarity of the project after funding. and if like that the price on exhcange will definitely drop large enough it could be until there is no buy order. very sad with these conditions
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October 17, 2019, 08:41:21 AM |
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The token died, which led to the project losing its value, the company had no measures to solve, no large capital from angel investors or they were too poor. I think not many projects use the money raised from investors to develop products.
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October 17, 2019, 08:49:54 AM |
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The token died, which led to the project losing its value, the company had no measures to solve, no large capital from angel investors or they were too poor. I think not many projects use the money raised from investors to develop products.
Most of them are just aiming for benefits so why they will use the money that they've got from the introductory sales. Being professional to the field always bring the advantage to scammers who are just lurking around to find potential victims. Tokens died eventually as the creators is not interested to any updates and progress it's all about the money that they've gonna take from the project.
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October 17, 2019, 11:50:18 AM |
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Who else is responsible and it entirely on devs and team managers. They can blame hunters and market how often they like, but at the end those problems are their miscalculation and regular investors have nothing to do with this.
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October 17, 2019, 04:55:12 PM |
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In the name of luring investors, bounty projects often give high degrees of discount ranging from 40 percent to 80 percent. But ultimately this high degree of discount backs fire in the end. I think it is bad practice to provide high degree of discount on the purchase of coins. What happen when the coin that has given high degree of discount is its price falls to almost zero when exchange listing.
Most real projects will never do such a thing, it has become so glaring to me now that these projects knows what they are doing by giving such huge rewards, they knew right from the onset that it was going to be a very big problem for the project which they do not care because that was actually their tactics to use in making the project dump for people to forget about the project. I have come to realize also that some of the projects that we need to start going far away from are these projects with huge rewards because it is absolutely impossible for them not to be a dump coin by the time all the investors dump the reward alone on the market will surely crumble the value that the project had built and may eventually turn it to a shitcoins.
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October 17, 2019, 05:27:36 PM |
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I think they don't have trust in their own project, so give a 50% bonus to investors. Yes, it is part of marketing, but some people judge that they will not glance at this kind of project because it will end up with a price that is not in accordance with the promise when entering the exchange. It's better to buy when it's on the market than having to go to the store.
Providing large bonuses for early investors is common from the past until now. In my opinion, this is part of the marketing strategy of the developer team and this is legitimate because there is no clear regulation from the government regarding new projects or the sale of tokens. but the team did not do the advanced strategy if they give a big bonus, maybe some developers who did the strategy give a big bonus to investors but they were not ready if the price dropped in the market. therefore, the bonuses given should not be large but sufficient bonuses to attract the attention of investors, maybe would be wiser
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October 18, 2019, 07:49:14 AM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
They gives offer 50% of normal price because they want more peoples to invest, buying their token. But the discount rate should not be too high, the value of their token will be difficult to increase later. Actually, the project killer is the non-transparency, we won't know whether the devs will burn or lock the unsold token, not selling it later.
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October 18, 2019, 08:02:18 AM |
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I think they don't have trust in their own project, so give a 50% bonus to investors. Yes, it is part of marketing, but some people judge that they will not glance at this kind of project because it will end up with a price that is not in accordance with the promise when entering the exchange. It's better to buy when it's on the market than having to go to the store.
Providing large bonuses for early investors is common from the past until now. In my opinion, this is part of the marketing strategy of the developer team and this is legitimate because there is no clear regulation from the government regarding new projects or the sale of tokens. but the team did not do the advanced strategy if they give a big bonus, maybe some developers who did the strategy give a big bonus to investors but they were not ready if the price dropped in the market. therefore, the bonuses given should not be large but sufficient bonuses to attract the attention of investors, maybe would be wiser If it is a business strategy, I think it is not profitable for buyers because the market price will also not be like the prices in the tokensale. Therefore it's useless to give a bonus at the beginning if only to attract buyers. It's better to use other marketing strategies that can boost the selling value on the market rather than giving a bonus. I think like that.
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October 18, 2019, 08:18:49 AM |
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I know so many fake project are ongoing and so many peoples are invest in wrong way but i have better idea about hawk network since it's start, you can also take a look on that with twiiter link, https://twitter.com/Hawk_HKC/status/1184768244802052096
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October 18, 2019, 09:55:42 AM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
They gives offer 50% of normal price because they want more peoples to invest, buying their token. But the discount rate should not be too high, the value of their token will be difficult to increase later. Actually, the project killer is the non-transparency, we won't know whether the devs will burn or lock the unsold token, not selling it later. they give high discounts because at the early beginning of the project no one believes in the implementation of the project and therefore they are trying to attract money - with big discounts or bonuses. Sometimes it is succeed
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October 18, 2019, 10:03:12 AM |
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Who else is responsible and it entirely on devs and team managers. They can blame hunters and market how often they like, but at the end those problems are their miscalculation and regular investors have nothing to do with this.
People think it is an easy task to grab investors for their tokens. They think they can be like bitcoin or may even defeat it but once they really get to do the job, most of them run away. Creating something is one task but marketing it and gaining value is a whole different game. Moreover, there is no point in trying out new tokens when we have options like bitcoin and ethereum. One can become very rich with these in hands.
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October 18, 2019, 10:21:57 AM |
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New projects are mostly scam or not well planned projects, as for me i don't create huge interest in new projects unless i detect some reasonable facts through research on the projects
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October 18, 2019, 12:03:42 PM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
They are the one that created the price, not the market if they are giving away 50% they can proceed, if they have a good potential in the market, investors will go for it, if not even if they offer 100% they will be ignored. We have seen so many times investors are angry because the price they bought on the coin is way down below their expected price, don't be deceive don't go for the price, look for the potential, it's also dubious if the project just wants to sell all their coins at any cost even at 50 to 80% off, think why they are selling and your guess is as good as mine.
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October 18, 2019, 12:42:13 PM |
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Despite the season, giving such amount is not good for any project. First giving out a 50% bonus only leads to dump from the part of the token investors when bonus is paid to them. 5-10% is appropriate during Tokensale.
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October 18, 2019, 12:58:59 PM |
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In this kind of bad altcoin market i am still surprised that some new projects are giving out 50% price tag for their tokens, this is a project killer if you ask me, this move is only good if altcoin season is out and surging, 50percent is way too much in this kind of market we are in presently, tell me i'm wrong
I believe you mean 50% bonus when one invest in token sale right? If so, then some just do this as a marketing strategy. For example, if they intend to sell the token at 1$ per token originally, they can say token price is 1.5$ plus 50% discount. This means even if one invests at 1.5$ per token with the bonus, it's still same as their original plan. Good tokenomics is what I look out for, and not just the bonus given.
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