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October 08, 2019, 07:09:54 PM
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Did he say anything about using public wifi? I thought he's using an internet cafe, with computers available to the public.

Oh dear lord, I missed that as well.  NO, just NO!  Shocked

These are not that common here in the US, and I just assumed he meant a cafe with public wifi.

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October 08, 2019, 07:36:09 PM
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The best thing that you can do is to transfer your funds immediately from that wallet you've accessed on the cafe. You may not know if the cafe attendant knows thing about crypto and has a daily monitoring through the websites and everything that their customers browsing activity.

Mobile wallets would be your best option if you want to access your wallet everywhere through your data connection. But still, don't include most of your funds into a single wallet.

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October 08, 2019, 07:42:30 PM
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If you have no other choice but to use other people's computers like the very public and probably full of trojans Internet cafe PCs, I suggest you bring your own bootable USB with a Linux OS. That's what I do to isolate some wallets. You just plug it in and you have your own desktop and harddrive source. I use Ubuntu. These Linux USB drives have universal drivers for video, audio, and network.

This is a good option for OP if he don't have any choice although accessing Bitcoin wallets on different or public computers is not advisable as it's likely you get hack by the owners or other user of the computer. I've never try using a USB with a Linux OS on a public internet cafe so I'm wondering if you will still get the virus by just plugging in and boot to it?

 
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October 08, 2019, 07:55:56 PM
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I wouldn't risk to login using the other PCs, I would rather find a public WiFi while using my phone to access my own BTC and other wallets. But if you don't have any other choice, you might wanna find a friend to ask some favour. But still you are risking your own money here if you use a single wallet address only to store all of your Bitcoin.

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October 08, 2019, 08:01:53 PM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.
Yes, there are application which is can easily made by using Phyton that records data the users input you can't identify if there is one in the pc not until you got hacked. It is super hard to detect because it doesn't show up as an malware it is just a background process running.

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October 08, 2019, 08:14:47 PM
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On a public cafe that is not run through a diskless setup? Consider yourself vulnerable as its pc of those can contain a lot of spywares from malwares to even keyloggers. I wouldn't even try to log in my social media account on a computer I don't even know because that is too much of a risk and I'm not willing to be compromise from a mistake of not being to cautious on my own personal information. That's why Steam and other gaming clients have 2fa built in to their system because they know a lot of gamers are logging in to this computer cafes to have another wall of safety from the possibility of this kinds of things. It's even safer to have a mobile wallet version for electrum downloaded in your phone rather than trying to access your wallet in a public pc.
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October 08, 2019, 08:39:13 PM
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Before accessing or opening your wallet on a public internet cafe make sure that it is safe check for key logger and other stuff.
I also do it sometimes but I only do it on my trusted internet cafe which I also know the owner and the shop attendant.
My brother got hacked from doing it on a random internet cafe back in 2017 and lost a lot of crypto because of it.
I think the best way is to own a hardware wallet I think it is safe to open because they need to have your device and codes.

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October 08, 2019, 09:03:06 PM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.

I'd suggest you have some sort of 2fa that you can check from your phone, or from a outside source than the computer itself. It's just good practice to always act as if someone has access to you data, under that assumption, are you taking the necessary steps to secure your funds?

Probably not, make sure the wallet you use lets you activate 2fa and set it up asap!
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October 08, 2019, 09:14:24 PM
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If you have no other choice but to use other people's computers like the very public and probably full of trojans Internet cafe PCs, I suggest you bring your own bootable USB with a Linux OS. That's what I do to isolate some wallets. You just plug it in and you have your own desktop and harddrive source. I use Ubuntu. These Linux USB drives have universal drivers for video, audio, and network.

It won't work.
Those computers run behind a management program like "MyCyberCafe" not only you won't be able to enter the boot section because the employee there will instantly notice but even if you do your os won't be able to connect to anything.
It's not like renting a car, it's taking a taxi.  Grin

Anyhow, I'm surprised nobody advised the OP to stop using webwallets also. Not your keys...not your coins.


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October 08, 2019, 10:09:49 PM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.

I suggest you change your wallet and transfer all the funds to a secure wallet by secure means.
Your wallet is still vulnerable, no matter how past you used the public cafe, why take the risk? Secure your funds while you still have time.

A story to tell, 8 years ago one of my staff was dishonest and I knew about it by an incident happened accidentally.
Later to grab some proofs, I installed a keylogger on his pc in my office secretly and boom I got all the proofs I needed to kick his ass out of my office.

A keylogger can be used for good and also for bad and the information can be tracked by several ways afair.
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October 08, 2019, 10:26:47 PM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.
A story to tell, 8 years ago one of my staff was dishonest and I knew about it by an incident happened accidentally.
Later to grab some proofs, I installed a keylogger on his pc in my office secretly and boom I got all the proofs I needed to kick his ass out of my office.
Too many consequences to suffer just to avoid hacking. Preventing is better than cure, I also recommend to transfer your funds asap. Hackers are just waiting to let you fill up your wallet to steal more money from you. Better buy some hard wallet for more security levels. It's not easy to hack unless you give the hard wallet and the private key to someone.


I suggest you change your wallet and transfer all the funds to a secure wallet by secure means.
Your wallet is still vulnerable, no matter how past you used the public cafe, why take the risk? Secure your funds while you still have time.

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October 08, 2019, 10:36:05 PM
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Great all advise and ooinion is very good and correct, using public computer at cafe opening the wallet are very risky it's possible the copy of the private is the way to lost your funds or your bitcoin unvestment. By the way niw you know the effect using public computers so to avoid risk do not use it again to open your wallet for the safety.
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October 08, 2019, 11:00:23 PM
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That practice is extremely unsafe, especially when it's related to your funds. There are such programs called "keyloggers" that logs all your key strokes and even logs your clipboard (copy-paste) data that may be accessed by someone else after you've used their PC unit. What's the best I would suggest if you're on a tight budget is to have a personal smartphone, as it is much safer as long as you don't install any malicious apps. Or only go to trusted public internet cafe that's premium than others.



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October 08, 2019, 11:02:15 PM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.

Others are always saying keyloggers, but in my point of view, most of the user's aren't really typing all of the characters of their wallet individually, in that case, what they are doing is copy pasting their wallet's private key, then pasting it. Keylogger doesn't have much capability to capture it, thus, making it safe for your wallet information. But beware of other software, those that are associated with copying the contents of your clipboard.
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October 08, 2019, 11:13:14 PM
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Accessing your wallet in a public cafe would put you in risk. If available access your wallet through your mobile phone and make sure that it is secured or you are not opening random mail or links to avoid getting viruses or malwares. Another thing is you can use a hardware wallet which is on the first place the most adviceable storage for your crypto.

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October 08, 2019, 11:39:02 PM
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Its not really safe on accessing your cryptocurrency in an internet cafe since they can see on what you are doing and worst case if they have a keylogger or capturing every thing on what your doing on the pc.

It would be better to buy a laptop o desktop computer so you can secure on what you are doing and its a good investment. If you have a laptop then you can easily access your cryptocurrency and trade in time.
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October 08, 2019, 11:52:48 PM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.


I would only do this with a toss away paper wallet into an exchange and then immediately move the BTC someplace to another crypto wallet (and running home to change password

on the exchange I used on the open site) or moved the BTC directly to another trezor wallet or paper wallet. Would be a one-shot pony kinda thing and change password on site from

your phone app after the fact if not thru the phone (better).

Only in an emergency on the above. I only use paper wallets...makes me pay attention for the most part. I use a trezor for $200 of dust for purchases..but when I xfer funds

I clean computer with malware/virus/get latest updates/defrag/spywareblaster/adv system care/ stuff like that...then get on Coinbase or whatever with SMS text etc.

Goes from one 'clean' paperwallet to another clean paperwallet. If it is worth the hassle it goes into the safety deposit box with all my paper wallets of various crypto.

again. trezor is only for dust amounts $200 or some such for purchases.

Also IF I EVER feel the need to write down a private key (in safety deposit box or whatever) I fold the paper up 3x and without looking at any of the 3 write a blank

the private key 3x. That way if I mess up in some manner 2 out of the 3 would likely be correct or I could figure out any issues. Did this PRE-trezor when using paper

wallets for dust and ASIC miner purchases...but always thought it was a good plan ...also your trezor password and or any other password in the same manner.

You unfold the paper and viola all copies should match 1/2/3.

I figure if the ASIC miner gods hate me a meteorite will take out the bank or some such ..that is just the way it is...all in a waterproof zip lock bag and waterproof rubber bag

in a safety deposit box. Sure makes a guy HODL it is a pain to get them..by then the panic is gone Smiley Anyway did this since 2013 and I started BTC mining back in the day.


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October 09, 2019, 12:41:38 AM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.

If the owner of the public internet Cafe has installed a keylogger in his/her cafe then your private keys and other important data will be stolen in a blink of an eye.

I can say that public internet Cafe is 50/50 safe to use and if you are transacting a huge amount of money it's better that you should not use it. It will be best if you will just buy your own computer and internet to be safe and always stay away from phishing sites or store your private keys online.

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October 09, 2019, 12:43:09 AM
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I know it is not secure to use public internet Cafe Computers for accessing the wallets and for transaction needs. At times I don't have any other option than just using it. I would like to know, is there any software available to record the input data entered while accessing the wallet. Recently one of my friend informed about such a way to know the private keys. Is there anyone here have any such experience.

Yes, it has and there's a possibility since you are in a public cafe.

"BUT"

Before going too far on my statement, I'm afraid that all information shared here about the software or possibility might be used for shi*ty act since this forum is public and everyone can see this discussion, and even you (sorry).

If you are worried about your security and you have no choice but to use an internet cafe, set up a 2FA on these exchange wallets you are talking about. And emails today like GMAIL, don't just let allow anyone to log in on other devices without permission from the old recognized device.

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October 09, 2019, 01:10:57 AM
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There are basically 2 reasons why this could backfire and you would lose all your funds here.

Since I am assuming your using a wallet that's hosted online and is able to be accessed everywhere, you need to watch out for keyloggers which can easily steal your username and password, but if you have 2 factor authentication on, this can be easily be avoided.

The 2nd way someone could steal your BTC is if they have malware which would automatically sweep the machine for private keys, or auto send BTC to a certain address. This one is basically unavoidable, unless you buy a hardware wallet like a ledger.

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