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February 02, 2020, 09:59:19 PM
Last edit: February 02, 2020, 10:20:10 PM by Philipma1957cellphone
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Relisted t17+
960 jumped to 975

Relisted the s17 +

1565 to 1615 iirc

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February 03, 2020, 02:18:41 AM
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Relisted t17+
960 jumped to 975

Relisted the s17 +

1565 to 1615 iirc

I do not understand that move but okay, maybe it is closer to shipping date than previous batch?
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February 03, 2020, 02:19:47 AM
Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:39:34 AM by frodocooper
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nope it is longer ship time.

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February 03, 2020, 03:04:39 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:40:08 AM by frodocooper
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Correct, but not just that, it is 20-30 days longer  Grin.

Something is going on, I noticed that in the last couple days of the previous month, the demand for coupons increased in such a way I have never seen before, someone "probably a Chinese" was collecting every single coupon they could get their hands on, that was a very unusual move, because usually when the coupons are about to expire the demand becomes really low, this time things were the exact opposite.

Someone/Some people know something we all don't, and they were buying every coupon and miner they can would get, it's like they know bitmain is having a production slow-down or whatever.

The current market prices in China for the new 17 series as follows.

T17+ 58Th = 1300$
S17+ 70Th = 2000$
S17+ 73Th = 2150$
S17 pro 53th = 1800$

And those don't even ship now, shipping starts after the New Year so around mid-Feb.

it's one of those times when the resellers are controlling the market due to lack of supply from Bitmain, such situations usually last for a while but then end terribly bad for the resellers when/if bitmain drop prices and restock a huge amount of everything.

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February 03, 2020, 03:29:02 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:40:25 AM by frodocooper
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I may buy some used s9 units.

or stick with what I have for a while.

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February 03, 2020, 05:40:05 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:40:47 AM by frodocooper
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Demand for coupons spiked because there was like 80% of all coupons expiring at 31.01.2020. and I think they usually spike like that during a few days before expiry. However, this is the first time that there was so small amount of coupons, previous years, there was much more of supply than demand for coupons and that is why this spike was very noticeable.
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February 03, 2020, 09:40:23 PM
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and I think they usually spike like that during a few days before expiry.

This is not true, they don't. In fact, many times people gave them out for free, I myself gave a couple of hundreds of them away for free because nobody was buying them, I even had a dozen expired on me because nobody wanted them even for free.

What's even worse now is the 10% rule, those coupons had no rules and nobody wanted them, it doesn't end here, the options on Bitmian's English website were limited to S9e, S9k, T17+ and S17+, all to be delivered on March except the S9s.

I know the coupon game inside out, and I am telling you, this time was different, I don't know what happened, I just know that it was different and someone might know something we all don't. If the production keeps slowing down and delivery stays this far ( nearly two months) then we know that someone figured that much out before it happened, and pretty soon all those gears will hit the Chinese market to be sold for premium outside of bitmain's territory.

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February 03, 2020, 10:28:33 PM
Last edit: February 04, 2020, 01:41:23 AM by frodocooper
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Well, the demand does not mean the price is realistic. I was personally searching for coupons 2 weeks prior to expiry all the way to last day since that is when they are cheapest.

Well, Corona is actually hitting China pretty hard, that might be one of the reasons that they are slowing down. I have friends as well as business partners in China which are all not working until 7th of February (or further, depending on notice from government).
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February 06, 2020, 04:57:42 AM
Last edit: February 07, 2020, 12:31:21 AM by frodocooper
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Well, the demand does not mean the price is realistic. I was personally searching for coupons 2 weeks prior to expiry all the way to last day since that is when they are cheapest...

That's funny because I was selling my coupons twice in that period and my posts stayed there for days.
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February 06, 2020, 05:03:18 AM
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I sold a few maybe four or five.

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February 06, 2020, 05:20:22 AM
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i still have 1 for 150 no percent limit, just that it needs to be over $500

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February 06, 2020, 06:33:43 AM
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That's funny because I was selling my coupons twice in that period and my posts stayed there for days.

Haven't seen it... Would've contacted you.
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February 06, 2020, 01:34:17 PM
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i still have 1 for 150 no percent limit, just that it needs to be over $500

When does it expire?

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February 07, 2020, 03:35:11 AM
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Those that did not expire in January, are either no limit or when BTC hits $10k.
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February 07, 2020, 12:46:14 PM
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My last coupon has no time limit, but expires if BTC hits $20K for 3 consecutive days.

I'm keeping it for a while Smiley

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February 07, 2020, 01:30:39 PM
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only if btc hits 10k so it says, though btc has hit 10k once already while I have had it and it is still there.

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February 07, 2020, 06:58:04 PM
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Surely you jest! But being Bitmain and evil and all I am unsure. Sad

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February 09, 2020, 10:41:43 PM
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only if btc hits 10k so it says, though btc has hit 10k once already while I have had it and it is still there.

if you or anyone else for that matter have coupons to sell, do let me know  Grin.

anyway in regards to S17+, there is this topic "T17/S17 malfunction: cases, solutions, remedies, RMA history", for those who are interested in reviews/issues on the S17+, you can follow this:


Here is another case I would like to add, I bought 2 S17s+ 67th, brand new ordered from Bitmain, I am overseas at the moment so I had someone receive and install them, the first gear worked just fine, started hashing right away, but the second one did not turn on.

The PSU works just fine, PSU fans spin the way they are supposed to, however, no lights coming out of the control board, the miner's fan do not spin.

At first, we suspected a PSU-Control Board connection problem, so I asked him to check the wires and everything seems to be in place, he had to leave before he could troubleshoot any further, so probably tomorrow. What I suspect is the PSU, there is a tiny chance that the control board might be bad, but that is unlikely, how often do you hear someone complain about a control board compared to PSU?

Anyway, I will keep you guys updated, unfortunately I can't send the gear back to them, so whatever the problem may be, I have to fix it on my own, I will of course "bother" them every day with emails until I get tried or they compensate me (whichever comes first).

I will post updates as they come.

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April 18, 2020, 05:14:30 AM
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for the s17+ what size are the fans/ventilators on the psu? and cfm?
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April 18, 2020, 07:55:08 PM
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for the s17+ what size are the fans/ventilators on the psu? and cfm?

do you mean the little short ones in the psu itself?

they may be 40mm  they whale like 10000 rpm



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BTW I ordered  a second t17+

I hope it is better then the first one.

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