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Author Topic: Funny since the Cryptotalk campaign came/ pour in your heart here about yobit.  (Read 1398 times)
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October 14, 2019, 12:03:22 AM
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Apart from the orange monkey cheeseburger stuff....
Am I the only one here who doesn't get that joke?  I honestly don't know what that's referring to.

Isn't Yobit paying 20k satoshi for legendary and 15k for Hero?
Using your advanced mathematics in which I will input my updated price of 10k$ per BTC that would make around 1200$ for Legendary and ...something less for Hero  Grin

That would top even the average wage in Eastern Europe
Wowza.  Yeah, I took a quick look at what they were paying and didn't even realize Hero-Legendaries can make more than 12k sats/post.  So those ranks would be pretty sweet for someone living not just in a 3rd world country, but someone without a job living anywhere--but especially in a poorer country. 

That's one thing I like about signature campaigns like Yobit's, that they can help the poor.  Another is that they promote the use of crypto among people who otherwise might not use it.  Obviously I find it sucky in the extreme that campaigns accepting hundreds of members and with low standards for acceptance also promote spamming of the forum, but such is life.  Not every cryptotalk campaigner is a spammer, and I am happy that at least Yahoo62278 is managing it and has banned a whole bunch of them.  That's way better than it was last time Yobit did their thing.

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October 14, 2019, 01:15:40 AM
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Apart from the orange monkey cheeseburger stuff....
Am I the only one here who doesn't get that joke?  I honestly don't know what that's referring to.

Well $20 buys 20 cheeseburgers in a first world country led by an orange balloon so I reckon with your advanced mathematics you could extrapolate from that   Grin

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Well, I live in Eastern Europe and I would have to spam hard and make 20 posts almost every day to earn average wage in my country. It doesn't sounds good... I'll stick with my current job.

That's if you make the average median wage in the first place, but most young people don't, second, only some of the countries in EE have that average wage, Russia is at 600 and none other than Estonia and Slovenia go above the 1k euro barrier.
Of course, we exclude healthcare, pension, unemployment but still might look pretty attractive to some.

20 posts a day or 8 hours at work and 2 hours in transit mean around 2 posts per hour.
Out of pure curiosity, I checked one of the current English tests for the 8th grade, it has a 6 lines translation and a 150 words small essay in it, apart from the grammar, with a 50 mins time...so...posting might feel like going back to school...crap!!!!!!! Not the best analogy!
But if you are fluent in English,with a lot of accounts and as crazy as actmynameTongue you could get more than 120$/h.... Roll Eyes That's above the daily paycheck (again average) in Germany.

Anyhow, since someone mentioned suchmoon's stats for the campaign
Only 3 were making 20 posts a day and only 50 out of 400 more than 10.
Probably most have understood that 5$ each day for a month is better than 20$ once.

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October 14, 2019, 02:00:38 AM
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Yobit pays what, 12k satoshi per post up to 20 posts per day?  You better believe everybody and their mother is going to be applying for that campaign.  If my advanced mathematics is correct (lol), that's $1.01 per post.  Somebody please tell me what $20.20 buys in a 3rd world country.  I mean that, I'm very interested to know.
Our highest minimum wage here in our country is $10.43 (537 PHP) and now that there is a signature campaign which pays twice our minimum wage, they will either tell to their relative to post here and they will continue their work (double compensation work + campaign) or they will stop working and focus on signature campaign which is a bit bullshit for me.

Well $20.20 can buy many here in our country like some beers which costs around $0.80 per bottle Cheesy or some will buy their favorite outfits and if they will continue this campaign for a year lets say and a certain user met all the daily quota which is 20 posts per day, he can easily buy a car or more house and lot if the price goes higher.


Yobit helped the average people to become rich by simply promoting their not so stupid forum (cryptotalk). I can't blame them since it is money and they will do anything for money but I'm just happy that there are bunch of reputable users here helping to at least lessen the spam here by banning those spammers to join in the campaign Smiley.

 
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October 14, 2019, 05:10:21 AM
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Yobit pays what, 12k satoshi per post up to 20 posts per day?  You better believe everybody and their mother is going to be applying for that campaign.
If the revenue in the yobit campaign is 1.01 $ in per post, multiplied by 20 in one day = 20.2 $ and in one month times 30 = $ 606.
and added 10 uncles = $ 6,060. in one month.


Very noble yobit campaign, can employ all family members there, uncle, mother, grandmother, sister-in-law.

If yobit participants, living in Singapore, may in a few months buy a new car or new home.


I think we all are focusing on 20$ per day thing which is impossible to maintain if anyone wants to remain in the campaign. Theoretically yes, You  can do but practically you cannot. You can do 20 post one day, two, three days and that's all.  So if anyone is dreaming to buy a car or home on basis of this will be disappointed to find their name in the banned list sooner or later.










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October 14, 2019, 06:20:43 AM
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Yobit pays what, 12k satoshi per post up to 20 posts per day?  You better believe everybody and their mother is going to be applying for that campaign.  If my advanced mathematics is correct (lol), that's $1.01 per post.  Somebody please tell me what $20.20 buys in a 3rd world country.  I mean that, I'm very interested to know.

And I don't frequent the spam-filled sections of the forum, like Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion and other sections Yobit pays for, but I would imagine that most of the posts being cranked out by cryptotalk.org participants are pure spam.  Yahoo62278 is doing an excellent job of trying to maintain control of the campaign, but there are still shitposters who are going to slip through the cracks. 

And yeah, the participants probably don't have a lot of other options as far as making money on the forum.  They could take their chances with some shitty-ass bounty that might not pay them with some tokens that are worthless anyway, but the Yobit campaign is a sure thing--if they don't get banned first.  It doesn't seem to be as bad as when Yobit launched their last campaign.  I attribute that to Yahoo62278's management.


The moment I see shitposts, chances are like at least 50% come from CryptoTalk sigs users the moment I view their profiles.

But for that price of min 12K sats, I'm not surprised that one can't simply post in a normal manner in order to maximize YB's exposure.

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October 14, 2019, 06:51:25 AM
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I’ve just checked whom I’ve merited over the last three days belonged to the CryptoTalk campaing, being the results for these days as follows: 4 out of 8 (50%), 2 out of six (33%), 5 out of 18 (27,7%). I don’t normally look at nor perceive signatures anymore, but rather content. What these (small) numbers show me is that there are a fair share of posters under this campaign that post well enough for me to merit them. Some of them have probably dropped their prior campaigns in favour of a higher paying one, and ring a bell, whilst others have never appear under my radar before.

Of course you can also find the opposite effect: on a Bitcoin Discussion thread I explained how Bitcoin ATMs are perceived in Venezuela in reply to another post. After my post, there were bags of replies which all seemed to have ignored the content of my explanation, and just went about their "great for Venezuela and Crypto" derivative type posts, many of them chained replies from this campaign. None were off-topic nor spam, but also none of them tried to read into the context I’d provided after consulting with some local Venezuelans. Naturally, that is not subject to this campaign alone by far.
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Singapore dollar for now $ 0.71 when measured in US dollars, per 1 dollar.

If a person works on a yobit campaign for $ 1.01 per post, if chasing posts without a ban, for example 15 or 20 posts per day he earns $ 20.2 per day.

If added in per month only 30 days does not stop, can generate $ 606 per month, that's one person.

What if one person installs 10 accounts in the yobit campaign, with reasons, uncle, grandfather, sister-in-law, brother, mother, father etc.
Bullshit, can make $ 606 in monthly and per year of that incredible $ 60,600 per account.
The government salary is above average.
If one year counts, the income in the yobit campaign will generate $ 727,200. Per 10 accounts if not discovered and banned.
This will be a dream in broad daylight and reality.


While houses in Singapore for the lower classes are in bandrol by the government 150-400 thousand Singapore dollars and also a new car $ 81,800. Each unit.

https://www.nissan.com.sg/vehicles/new/sylphy.html?sem&gclid=CjwKCAjwlovtBRBrEiwAG3XJ-xe-_6aDPaoHkwnlAXacrJOSYQzUV3KE15NTr6rMCQca6MTITi44QRoC4oAQAvD_BwE

For home and car salaries from the yobit forum campaign are issued annually around $ 400 and $ 81,800 = $ 481,800 that is spent annually at less than $ 727,200, yobit's income, $ 245,200 saved.
Whether it be a dream in broad daylight or reality.

While the lowest salary in Singapore is around 1,500 Singapore dollars per month and the highest is around Singapore 3,000 dollars, it has been combined.

While in the yobit campaign people install 10 accounts at once earning $ 6, 606 per month, double the highest salary in singapore.

In this currency people do not care what happens to the forum, spam, multi accounts, red trust, buy accounts, no matter how stupid. Money-money-money. Bullshit.

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I do not believe that 1 single campaign is causing the disband of bounty hunters and also lack of new campaigns... on one side, new projects are already diminishing since some time ago, especially if we are looking for good ones, this has probably more to do with the market conditions than with another campaign...
on the other side, bounty hunters numbers usually follow the market, as when the market is bad and has few good campaigns, the scam level rises and the rewards dissapear... so it is natural that there are less hunters now

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I’ve just checked whom I’ve merited over the last three days belonged to the CryptoTalk campaing, being the results for these days as follows: 4 out of 8 (50%), 2 out of six (33%), 5 out of 18 (27,7%). I don’t normally look at nor perceive signatures anymore, but rather content. What these (small) numbers show me is that there are a fair share of posters under this campaign that post well enough for me to merit them. Some of them have probably dropped their prior campaigns in favour of a higher paying one, and ring a bell, whilst others have never appear under my radar before.
There's a lot of users which are decent posters in the campaign, but they are drowned out by the masses of spammers which inevitably get drawn in by such a high paying campaign. I still stand by my original point of view that this will likely take Yahoo a few months to get under control, and hopefully the campaign won't cause too many issues. I've merited users from the crytoTalk campaign also, and for the ones that I come across who are spamming I just message Yahoo if they aren't quite breaking forum guidelines.
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In this currency people do not care what happens to the forum, spam, multi accounts, red trust, buy accounts, no matter how stupid. Money-money-money. Bullshit.










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Now let's show some numbers Smiley In the past 7 days, this many users have posted:
Legendary: 506 users
Hero Member: 509 users
Sr. Member: 841 users
A few more are hiding as Copper Member, Staff or other rank too.

Earlier this month, suchmoon counted 451 participants in the recent Yobit campaign. Some of those had lower ranks, and by now many have been banned from the campaign by yahoo62278, and a lower number has been banned from the forum.

Based on those numbers, I'm not surprised those users choose the higher Bitcoin payment over Tokens made up out of thin air. But what I'm really interested in, is if they don't have enough accounts left to join the bounties too: how many more "spare" accounts are owned by spammers? If this really is the better part of all high-ranking accounts, that means spammers are finally running out! More than 1.5 years after the introduction of Merit, that would be a small victory, even though it creates some temporary spam.

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Based on those numbers, I'm not surprised those users choose the higher Bitcoin payment over Tokens made up out of thin air. But what I'm really interested in, is if they don't have enough accounts left to join the bounties too: how many more "spare" accounts are owned by spammers? If this really is the better part of all high-ranking accounts, that means spammers are finally running out! More than 1.5 years after the introduction of Merit, that would be a small victory, even though it creates some temporary spam.
The great thing about Yahoo's list being public we could probably dig into a lot of those banned accounts history, and establish connections between each one meaning they'd hopefully not be able to abuse future campaigns. Especially, if campaign managers start merging a lot of the names into their own banned list.
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Based on those numbers, I'm not surprised those users choose the higher Bitcoin payment over Tokens made up out of thin air. But what I'm really interested in, is if they don't have enough accounts left to join the bounties too: how many more "spare" accounts are owned by spammers? If this really is the better part of all high-ranking accounts, that means spammers are finally running out! More than 1.5 years after the introduction of Merit, that would be a small victory, even though it creates some temporary spam.
The great thing about Yahoo's list being public we could probably dig into a lot of those banned accounts history, and establish connections between each one meaning they'd hopefully not be able to abuse future campaigns. Especially, if campaign managers start merging a lot of the names into their own banned list.

Most of these banned ones are the throw away accounts as they were red tagged already and had no use until they come alive again to get some money from this campaign. Also most of the burst posting are also been done by these accounts.

It will be interesting if we can compile the list, minus the red trusted ones and see whats the count left.
 









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It will be interesting if we can compile the list, minus the red trusted ones and see whats the count left.
There's only a public list of banned accounts. I'd like to see a full list of all accounts that are still in the campaign though.

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Now let's show some numbers Smiley In the past 7 days, this many users have posted:
Legendary: 506 users
Hero Member: 509 users
Sr. Member: 841 users
A few more are hiding as Copper Member, Staff or other rank too.

Earlier this month, suchmoon counted 451 participants in the recent Yobit campaign. Some of those had lower ranks, and by now many have been banned from the campaign by yahoo62278, and a lower number has been banned from the forum.

Based on those numbers, I'm not surprised those users choose the higher Bitcoin payment over Tokens made up out of thin air. But what I'm really interested in, is if they don't have enough accounts left to join the bounties too: how many more "spare" accounts are owned by spammers? If this really is the better part of all high-ranking accounts, that means spammers are finally running out! More than 1.5 years after the introduction of Merit, that would be a small victory, even though it creates some temporary spam.

interesting;  is it possible to derive statistics/post counts for the users for the same amount of time prior to their joining the campaign and compare to while in the campaign?  This can show any potential of posting habits changed based on having a sig...

not saying its necessary, but would be interesting data.

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I disagree that one campaign is the reason why new ones don't appear,
that, talk about facts, not engineering or fairy tales.
New sig campaign.

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only one campaign for sig this month, another, the old sig campaign.

I do not know why you still think that new campaigns are not appearing because of one campaign, everyone is free to start their own campaign anytime. If we look Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns most of them are long-term signature campaigns, and the number of new SC which pay with BTC is very low for a long time.

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Someone is say that 90% of CryptoTalk participants are very low-quality posters, and I agree with that. Most of them do not read anything except for the title, or maybe last post in the thread, and as you say they come in the waves of replies completely ignoring everything posted before. Considering the numbers of hundreds of accounts, sometimes it is very hard to read all that nonsense posts, and in most cases, I just give up with posting because my post no one will even notice in all that spam.

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I have been little reluctant in wearing this signature initially, but with yahoo's management I thought of stepping in this campaign. Being a pretty decent poster myself, it's been always difficult for me to join other gambling signatures for most of the time.
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The second one is that, I am not a very active Gambling Discussion poster and on the other hand I don't qualify for the minimum posts for the majority of the time. Posting around 25/30 per week is kind of a nightmare for me for most of the time and I have been kicked out of the campaigns for this particular reason.
JSRAW commented on this thread asking for a new Indian mod that You and me sound like carbon copies..!!

I have the exact same reasons for choosing cryptotalk signature. Making posts for the sake of fulfilling minimum requirements can be gruesome to your own self-respect..LOL..I truly appreciate that you have gained a diverse participation at the forum. I found myself getting limited after a certain time due to lack of enthusiasm and time to devote on the forum.
The things you are doing are encouraging and I think if Theymos ever decides to pick a mod for the Indian sub, you'd be a fine choice.

PS: We really must do something about sounding so similar..!!  Cheesy
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interesting;  is it possible to derive statistics/post counts for the users for the same amount of time prior to their joining the campaign and compare to while in the campaign?
Suchmoon did that already: Cryptotalk signature campaign participants 2019-10-06.
Short summary: most users post much more after joining the campaign.

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LOL... Grin Never seen your post before and thanks for pointing it out. The primary reason for me reapplying again and again for the Chipmixer campaign is not really for their very high payrates but for the rules which DarkStar_ has adhered to run the campaign for a long term. The short term campaigns require to gain much attention for their site at a very limited time period and not really willing to have a longer run with very low post count. Even if I get a chance in Chipmixer campaign, the posting habit of mine would never change and I would be forever posting (max 25-30 posts if I have insane free time over the week). I am online for over 2-3 hours cumulatively right from morning today but this is the very first post I am writing now. The goal is not to write whatever I think but to have a very good write-up of posts which will serve the topic and would uplift the ideas posted already.

If you take my number of posts they are just lesser than 775 posts over 1.8 year of stay but I have received around 590 merits with that. The problem with me is that I take a lot more time with reading each and every post and brainstorming myself on how different my post could be from other posts. I have promoted some gambling sites with my signatures eventhough I was not really aware with gambling terms right then. To counter this, I had read various articles on gambling very often to justify my signature posts in Gambling section.

Probably even today I don't post much, but each and every post will serve the purpose of promoting the signature at the right area. I have seen many gamblers in Collectibles board and my signature could have somehow helped the promotion of the company to them I guess.  Cheesy The companies don't hire us to talk shit in the Gambling topics but to promote their site with the target audience.

The things you are doing are encouraging and I think if Theymos ever decides to pick a mod for the Indian sub, you'd be a fine choice.

Yes, encouraging in the sense these topics which I make in Indian section needs much exposure and the posters should return back to the section which isn't happening right now. Old timer (registered around 2013-2015) good posters are still roaming in the global boards thinking the board is still dormant and spammy which isn't right now.  Sad


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October 14, 2019, 11:53:25 AM
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Someone is say that 90% of CryptoTalk participants are very low-quality posters, and I agree with that.

I will not agree to this. If 90% of the cryptotalk participants are spammers then this campaign would have ended by now. No one will tolerate this much amount of spam. The fact is that there are good posters too here who are wearing this signature and with banning in place, it should keep the quality increasing.

Most of them do not read anything except for the title, or maybe last post in the thread, and as you say they come in the waves of replies completely ignoring everything posted before. Considering the numbers of hundreds of accounts, sometimes it is very hard to read all that nonsense posts, and in most cases, I just give up with posting because my post no one will even notice in all that spam.

This is true for most of the users and not just cryptotalk participants. All the discussion boards are filled with such stuff and we should not unnecessary blame all the bad things to the cryptotalk.









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