partners for valuebetting (10k$+/month possible), no investment needed

[tomeaton82]

I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week.
Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents).

So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons.
Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest.
30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill.

You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months.

If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me:
tom.eaton82@protonmail.com

[hopenotlate]

Just to understand a bit more : you are asking for gambling accounts registered in other people's names, you want to gain access to them (usernames and passwords) you make the deposits and play?
Correct?
And what about the withdrawal phase: who should take care of it? You or real accput owners?
Also, only fiat bookmakers, no bitcoin ones?

[harizen]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

[ryzaadit]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

Indeed.

Just like other schemes like bot gambling, Also theres no proof he can make 10k$ every month. The weird things, we take care of all information like Account + Information User not him.

Always remember, do not trust random strangers offering a profit/investment without doing the reasonable thing

[Lanatsa]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

100% there would be always some reason behind why these people do tend to make use of others verified gambling accounts.

Offers are too good to be true but its always been risky if you do let other people handle out your own account tagging up your own identity on it.
If once there's something illegal happened then expect on what would comes next.

[dark08]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

100% there would be always some reason behind why these people do tend to make use of others verified gambling accounts.

Offers are too good to be true but its always been risky if you do let other people handle out your own account tagging up your own identity on it.
If once there's something illegal happened then expect on what would comes next.

That its right no one will believe in this person why we need to create a verify account to make this OP handle just think twice before considering this offer. Expect a scamming in the end no easy money in this world.

[Yatsan]

Newbie account posting something like this? This is a scam, or if this is true, be careful because it is your own identity. I think if you get money out from this, that would be Illegal, So everyone, please don't transact in this kind of offer. Your identity or money will be at risk! Just play gambling by yourself and don't trust any people who are offering this "too good to be true" kind of scheme.

[DarkStar_]

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

That would require faking KYC and various documents and possibly financial accounts. They likely already made their own account to value bet and got limited as they demonstrated that they were long term winners, so they want new accounts to profit. bet365 and other books used by OP (probably Unibet, not sure what else) are soft books that cater to recreational players and do not want winners.

OP's offer is probably legitimate, but I personally would not take them up on the offer.

[Haunebu]

If getting limited or restricted is your concern op, why don't you stick to sites like Pinnacle or exchanges like Fairlay where you never face these issues? Pinnacle requires KYC while Fairlay doesn't need any verification.

In an era where privacy is a major concern for many people, how do you expect anyone to simply transfer their account to a stranger online even if you are not a scammer? It would be better to rely on people you know(Family etc).

[tomeaton82]

I fully understand all concerns about giving user credentials to a stranger, I think I also wouldn't do that.

But everyone who has more experience with sportsbetting knows that there are ways to earn money with it: Bonus hunting, surebetting, valuebetting,...
I am doing these things for about 15 years now, during my study and as "side job.
When you are successful all bookmakers limit you to 0 and you cant bet any longer. Every professional in the scene knows that. But is that fair? B365 for example has about 1 billion Dollar Prfit per year, but they limit winning players after some time. So it is part of the game to get new accounts via friends and other people as long as bookmakers are not fair to their customers.

So this is the reason why new accounts need to be created, all bookies pay out as long as it is a real person's account. But after some time winners are banned and so you cant do that forever with your own account.
I mainly use a self created software to place bets, the bookies know that but they ban you after time and payout the winnings.

Maybe we can also find a deal that you run the software and don't give me your own user credentials.

[akirasendo17]

I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week.
Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents).

So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons.
Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest.
30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill.

You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months.

If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me:
tom.eaton82@protonmail.com

hmm I dont think people will agree in your plans, why would you use other accounts, how can owners if the account , can prove that youre not like some kind of scammers trying cheat on them, do you have proof that you can be trusted , to be honest im curious

[tomeaton82]

hmm I dont think people will agree in your plans, why would you use other accounts, how can owners if the account , can prove that youre not like some kind of scammers trying cheat on them, do you have proof that you can be trusted , to be honest im curious

I explained why I need other accounts and can't bet a my own. It is no big secret that this happens, 1000s of winners out there have the problem of getting banned. Bookies just like losers who get addicted and play without knowledge about valuebets.

[carlfebz2]

hmm I dont think people will agree in your plans, why would you use other accounts, how can owners if the account , can prove that youre not like some kind of scammers trying cheat on them, do you have proof that you can be trusted , to be honest im curious

I explained why I need other accounts and can't bet a my own. It is no big secret that this happens, 1000s of winners out there have the problem of getting banned. Bookies just like losers who get addicted and play without knowledge about valuebets.

Always been shady on their part and as a business you would definitely hate up winners specially to those who constantly milking out the site.
I can attest to this yet this do happens on sportsbetting field.

The deal is becoming more interesting since you mentioned above that you wouldnt get users log in credentials but im pretty hesitated with installing some software .

[hopenotlate]

-snip-
I mainly use a self created software to place bets, the bookies know that but they ban you after time and payout the winnings.

Maybe we can also find a deal that you run the software and don't give me your own user credentials.

Why do you use software to place bet, can't just bets be placed manually? Running your software is an essential part of the deal?

[tomeaton82]

-snip-
I mainly use a self created software to place bets, the bookies know that but they ban you after time and payout the winnings.

Maybe we can also find a deal that you run the software and don't give me your own user credentials.

Why do you use software to place bet, can't just bets be placed manually? Running your software is an essential part of the deal?

Yes this is essential because software places a lot of bets every day, with relatively low stakes per bet, so the variance will be low and the winnings will be generated week by week.
Placing all this bets manually is waste of time and not worth it.

[Itsmylife]

Is this a criminal activity? If not, I think I can join.

[BTCevo]

I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week.
Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents).

So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons.
Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest.
30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill.

You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months.

If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me:
tom.eaton82@protonmail.com

First of all I can see that it is too good too be true, to generate 5k to 10k dollars each month sure is tempting but I do not think that it will be that easy just to leave our private document for you instead of we are doing on our own. This is just like you are saying that we sell our account for 30% from your bet, instead of doing this, may be you can share your own picks and let us do by ourselves then. Why do you need our own document if you can just do it by yourselves? You are able to generate more by yourselves

[Nadziratel]

I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week.
Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents).

So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons.
Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest.
30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill.

You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months.

If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me:
tom.eaton82@protonmail.com

First of all I can see that it is too good too be true, to generate 5k to 10k dollars each month sure is tempting but I do not think that it will be that easy just to leave our private document for you instead of we are doing on our own. This is just like you are saying that we sell our account for 30% from your bet, instead of doing this, may be you can share your own picks and let us do by ourselves then. Why do you need our own document if you can just do it by yourselves? You are able to generate more by yourselves

They will use your account with the information registered on your behalf to be used in many fraudulent activities, including money laundering. This is a brief summary of this topic. No matter how tempting I think 10K is, it's not worth it!

[Lanatsa]

First of all I can see that it is too good too be true, to generate 5k to 10k dollars each month sure is tempting but I do not think that it will be that easy just to leave our private document for you instead of we are doing on our own. This is just like you are saying that we sell our account for 30% from your bet, instead of doing this, may be you can share your own picks and let us do by ourselves then. Why do you need our own document if you can just do it by yourselves? You are able to generate more by yourselves

They will use your account with the information registered on your behalf to be used in many fraudulent activities, including money laundering. This is a brief summary of this topic. No matter how tempting I think 10K is, it's not worth it!

You guys should read up above op's comment about the deal.

I fully understand all concerns about giving user credentials to a stranger, I think I also wouldn't do that.

But everyone who has more experience with sportsbetting knows that there are ways to earn money with it: Bonus hunting, surebetting, valuebetting,...
I am doing these things for about 15 years now, during my study and as "side job.
When you are successful all bookmakers limit you to 0 and you cant bet any longer. Every professional in the scene knows that. But is that fair? B365 for example has about 1 billion Dollar Prfit per year, but they limit winning players after some time. So it is part of the game to get new accounts via friends and other people as long as bookmakers are not fair to their customers.

So this is the reason why new accounts need to be created, all bookies pay out as long as it is a real person's account. But after some time winners are banned and so you cant do that forever with your own account.
I mainly use a self created software to place bets, the bookies know that but they ban you after time and payout the winnings.

Maybe we can also find a deal that you run the software and don't give me your own user credentials.

Offer is good actually but it cant really be avoided since we do talk our own identity.

[SyGambler]

If getting limited or restricted is your concern op, why don't you stick to sites like Pinnacle or exchanges like Fairlay where you never get face these issues? Pinnacle requires KYC while Fairlay doesn't need any verification.

In an era where privacy is a major concern for many people, how do you expect anyone to simply transfer their account to a stranger online even if you are not a scammer? It would be better to rely on people you know(Family etc).

the value that pinnacle offers is much less than BET365 and the other UK books , for big events like if you want to bet on Man city you will find better value with pinnacle but people who are looking for Bet365 accounts aren't looking to bet on these leagues
Bet365 offer pretty much all the games worldwide and the majority of what they offer isn't available in Pinnacle or in Exchanges , that's why you see a lot of people buying accounts from other loser gamblers

I have no access to any good gambling website or any good ewallet like skrill , but if I had I would probably be buying accounts as well

[shield132]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

Man believe this or not, this will be the least question people will ask to themselves. Why? Because this man offers easy money, it's very nice to hear, especially when said well, what he requires from you is very minimal and what he promises is really great. So most part of people will just be captivated from it and will be more than happy to agree with this proposal and give away not only their but also their friends' accounts. Well, we can do nothing, people need to improve logical thinking or at least turn it.

[pleasureteam]

Dont know what bookies you use to do your value betting but I am using the sharp asian ones and never got limited. Pinnacle even embraces value and arbitrage bettors.

[tomeaton82]

They will use your account with the information registered on your behalf to be used in many fraudulent activities, including money laundering. This is a brief summary of this topic. No matter how tempting I think 10K is, it's not worth it!

It seems that you don't really know what money laundering is . How should money laundering be possible on that way? It is just a way to get unbanned accounts to be able to generate winnings. A lot of experienced forum users in this thread have also proven that this is possible at bookies.

And I was offering a deal in another post where I explain that I have another suggestion for a deal where nobody needs to give me their credentials.

Does anyone here think a bookmaker will payout to a user's bank account if there is an illegal betting to fixed matches or something like that? So how could I have advantage of it? If there is no payout you just don't send me my part. But I trust that you will because you see how easy it is to get money by this and just if you do I will give you access o next bookie where you can generate more.

I am looking for cooperation just because all bookies limit winning players to 0 and ban them forever! Everyone who has interest can earn lots of money without doing anything, per person it is maybe 1-2 hours for registering , verifying, deposit, withdrawal.

[tomeaton82]

Dont know what bookies you use to do your value betting but I am using the sharp asian ones and never got limited. Pinnacle even embraces value and arbitrage bettors.

I have 15 years experience, met a lot of professional punters but never met anyone who beats pinnacle or asian bookmakers. Yes they love arbitrage bettors because they bet on an european bookie and hedge their bet on pinnacle. But on pinnacle side you make long term fat losses when you do this, because this site of the bet is sharp. And you lose the 1-2% marge of pinnacle there long run.

So congratulations if you can beat pinnacle long term, I cannot do it. But I use pinnacle as reference to find out which bets at other bookis are value.

[hopenotlate]

Maybe this thread might be interesting for original poster : Selling verified bet365 accounts.

[Haunebu]

the value that pinnacle offers is much less than BET365 and the other UK books , for big events like if you want to bet on Man city you will find better value with pinnacle but people who are looking for Bet365 accounts aren't looking to bet on these leagues
Bet365 offer pretty much all the games worldwide and the majority of what they offer isn't available in Pinnacle or in Exchanges , that's why you see a lot of people buying accounts from other loser gamblers

Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.

[TwitchySeal]

Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle.

You are either one of the most brilliant sharps in the world or you are seeing value where there isn't any.

In my experience, sports betting is far better when compared to gambling in games like dice etc since your research and knowledge actually help. It is possible to profit regularly through sports betting and I have seen many people do it.

There are many ways to accomplish this op. My favorite way is arbitrage betting and accumulator betting. These are risky methods, but I have had a lot of success with these methods. I usually bet on moneyline and handicap bets using these methods.

You aren't the most brilliant sharp in the world.

[Haunebu]

You aren't the most brilliant sharp in the world.

I am simply another average bettor and nothing more. I get why so many people hate accumulator bets due to the bookmaker advantage and all, but I absolutely love them due to the entertainment aspect and the ability to turn small amounts into huge amounts thanks to luck and research.

I have consistently earned good money through accumulators and arbs though I always encourage risking small amounts only when it comes to accas.

[MonsterV]

I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week.
Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents).

So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons.
Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest.
30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill.

You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months.

If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me:
tom.eaton82@protonmail.com

A very interesting offer for us but I will not accept any offer from you that threatens my privacy. You are a new member here and new members cannot be trusted unless you have a guarantee from an honorable member. Maybe it will be valid for me if your offer is bridged by a third party (honorable member) with your initial guarantee, isn't that equally beneficial for us. I think if you are able to make that kind of money, then a small guarantee is not a problem for you.

[Battareus]

Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?

[SyGambler]

Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.

I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him

[tomeaton82]

Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.

I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him

This is not what I am doing and not what software does. Software places about 100 bets per day, in big leagues, everywhere. Relative small amount per bet but a lot of, so the variance is low and you generate winnings week by week. Sometimes there might be a week with losses but this happens maybe 5 times a year. But bets are not placed in these small leagues, maybe sometimes but just if there is a sharp bookie on other side which has same bet. I cannot find out what is value in these unpopular leagues you mentioned. Maybe there are some punters out there doing this, but it is not what I am doing.

As I mentioned before, nobody needs to send me his user credentials, I can everyone who is interested give the software to test. You will see that it is successful or do you think I develop such a complicated software if it would not be? :And I cannot do anything with your account even if I would have your user credentials. At the bookies you can just withdraw to your own bank account or skrill / neteller / paypal....

And yes everyone will get limited after some time and banned forever, but before this will happen everyone can generate 5k to 10k per person. Without doing a lot, just register, verify, deposit, withdraw. Nobody needs to believe but maybe someone here wants to test. I can also send the investment money for testing if it is a trusted member with lots of posts.

[rijaljun]

Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?

Hoho after you passed the verification and give him your account, he will run away from you.

A simple logic, if making money is that easy why didn't he work together with his friend in real life? no need to come to this forum and make himself looks like a scammer.

[tomeaton82]

Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?

Hoho after you passed the verification and give him your account, he will run away from you.

A simple logic, if making money is that easy why didn't he work together with his friend in real life? no need to come to this forum and make himself looks like a scammer.

What shall I say to such a post? Some people are not able to read, it seems.
Did you read everything in this thread what I wrote? Nobody needs to send me his user credentials. And I did with friends and I explained here a lot of times that everyone will get banned after some time, it is proven by lot of experienced users in this forum that this will happen to winners. The bookies ban all winners, they don't care if you use software, if you do surebetting, valuebetting or bet on smaller leagues where you are an expert and you win. You will get banned after some time.

You don't have any experience, I am not able to run away even if I had credentials for example Bet365. Every user would be able to simple set back his password with the help of his email account. And I will never be able to withdraw to my account, just the user can withdraw to his bank account or an online account like Skrill. You don't know what you are writing and your simple logic is not very intelligent. Everyone who has accounts at bookmakers and other online platforms knows that passwords can be set back by emailadress within seconds.

[tomeaton82]

Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?

You can also have the software and test on your own. I don't need your credentials. You can payout whenever you want, you generate constant winnings.

[DarkStar_]

Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.

You've stated that you've arbed, and if you check your P/L history for your arbitrage bets, you'll see that you'll be negative on Pinnacle bets and positive on the other sportsbooks.

[tomeaton82]

Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.

You've stated that you've arbed, and if you check your P/L history for your arbitrage bets, you'll see that you'll be negative on Pinnacle bets and positive on the other sportsbooks.

Thank you for this, you are a true expert.

But it could be true that he sometimes finds "value" on Pinnacle, with his own statistics and maybe early odds and when he is an expert in a small league. Or what does he think? If there is a surebet the value is always on the other side of pinnacle and other sharp bookies because they are too slow to adjust the odds and so there is a surebet for some minutes or sometimes longer. Every sports betting profi like you knows this So thanks for confirming that.

[Upgate]

What's sort of account so you guys needs and what's the hard process if you create the account you need by your self, it doesn't matter how genuine you are this would still raise the dust about uncertainties

[Haunebu]

I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him

You are right since I do find value with the closing odds on Pinnacle though this happens minority of the time. Honestly, I have earned more through arbing when compared to value betting which is why I am a newbie when it comes to value-betting currently.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.

True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement.

[tomeaton82]

I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him

You are right since I do find value with the closing odds on Pinnacle though this happens minority of the time. Honestly, I have earned more through arbing when compared to value betting which is why I am a newbie when it comes to value-betting currently.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.

True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement.

How do you find the value on closing line of pinnacle? You need to bet 1000s of bets, then you can really say if it was value.
This is what the software does.

[DarkStar_]

True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement.

I really really doubt this (like tomeaton82). Pinnacle closing lines are generally regarded as the most accurate/efficient - sports bettors usually try to get CLV (closing line value), which is the advantage they got over the closing line (for example, 1.99 on Liverpool ML when closing line was 1.91). By the time the market closes, there is a ton of volume that has shaped the line from sharps on both sides. From Pinnacle itself, their soccer closing line with margin removed had an R-squared of 0.997, which is almost perfect correlation (1).

I really doubt you know what you're talking about.

[Haunebu]

True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement.

I really really doubt this (like tomeaton82). Pinnacle closing lines are generally regarded as the most accurate/efficient - sports bettors usually try to get CLV (closing line value), which is the advantage they got over the closing line (for example, 1.99 on Liverpool ML when closing line was 1.91). By the time the market closes, there is a ton of volume that has shaped the line from sharps on both sides. From Pinnacle itself, their soccer closing line with margin removed had an R-squared of 0.997, which is almost perfect correlation (1).

I really doubt you know what you're talking about.

Like I said, I am no expert when it comes to value betting(Newbie) or sports betting, but I did feel like I placed several value bets on more than 1 occasion through the closing odds(live bets) on Pinnacle which is simply my opinion.

Honestly, I have earned far more through arbing and accumulator betting and don't really care too much about value betting though I am improving my knowledge related to it thanks to folks like you guys on the internet.

[shoreno]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

Man believe this or not, this will be the least question people will ask to themselves. Why? Because this man offers easy money, it's very nice to hear, especially when said well, what he requires from you is very minimal and what he promises is really great. So most part of people will just be captivated from it and will be more than happy to agree with this proposal and give away not only their but also their friends' accounts. Well, we can do nothing, people need to improve logical thinking or at least turn it.

no this isnt the last but these are only few of the hundreds and thousands of incoming threads simillar to this one but they can come in a slight modified form so that they wont look obvious .  i would not give my account or my friends account because that is risky.  he could have hack us both  .  lending accounts to others is still called investment even though no money is involved , so no

[tomeaton82]

Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....

Man believe this or not, this will be the least question people will ask to themselves. Why? Because this man offers easy money, it's very nice to hear, especially when said well, what he requires from you is very minimal and what he promises is really great. So most part of people will just be captivated from it and will be more than happy to agree with this proposal and give away not only their but also their friends' accounts. Well, we can do nothing, people need to improve logical thinking or at least turn it.

no this isnt the last but these are only few of the hundreds and thousands of incoming threads simillar to this one but they can come in a slight modified form so that they wont look obvious .  i would not give my account or my friends account because that is risky.  he could have hack us both  .  lending accounts to others is still called investment even though no money is involved , so no

Again: nobody needs to give me his account. I explained it a lot of times.