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October 16, 2019, 07:02:30 PM
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Another partnership scheme in another form.

This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.

Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....
Man believe this or not, this will be the least question people will ask to themselves. Why? Because this man offers easy money, it's very nice to hear, especially when said well, what he requires from you is very minimal and what he promises is really great. So most part of people will just be captivated from it and will be more than happy to agree with this proposal and give away not only their but also their friends' accounts. Well, we can do nothing, people need to improve logical thinking or at least turn it.

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October 16, 2019, 07:02:57 PM
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Dont know what bookies you use to do your value betting but I am using the sharp asian ones and never got limited. Pinnacle even embraces value and arbitrage bettors.
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October 16, 2019, 07:08:21 PM
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They will use your account with the information registered on your behalf to be used in many fraudulent activities, including money laundering. This is a brief summary of this topic. No matter how tempting I think 10K is, it's not worth it!

It seems that you don't really know what money laundering is Smiley. How should money laundering be possible on that way? It is just a way to get unbanned accounts to be able to generate winnings. A lot of experienced forum users in this thread have also proven that this is possible at bookies.

And I was offering a deal in another post where I explain that I have another suggestion for a deal where nobody needs to give me their credentials.

Does anyone here think a bookmaker will payout to a user's bank account if there is an illegal betting to fixed matches or something like that? So how could I have advantage of it? If there is no payout you just don't send me my part. But I trust that you will because you see how easy it is to get money by this and just if you do I will give you access o next bookie where you can generate more.

I am looking for cooperation just because all bookies limit winning players to 0 and ban them forever! Everyone who has interest can earn lots of money without doing anything, per person it is maybe 1-2 hours for registering , verifying, deposit, withdrawal.
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October 16, 2019, 07:16:20 PM
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Dont know what bookies you use to do your value betting but I am using the sharp asian ones and never got limited. Pinnacle even embraces value and arbitrage bettors.

I have 15 years experience, met a lot of professional punters but never met anyone who beats pinnacle or asian bookmakers. Yes they love arbitrage bettors because they bet on an european bookie and hedge their bet on pinnacle. But on pinnacle side you make long term fat losses when you do this, because this site of the bet is sharp. And you lose the 1-2% marge of pinnacle there long run.

So congratulations if you can beat pinnacle long term, I cannot do it. But I use pinnacle as reference to find out which bets at other bookis are value.
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October 16, 2019, 08:17:34 PM
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Maybe this thread might be interesting for original poster : Selling verified bet365 accounts.

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October 17, 2019, 07:08:34 AM
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the value that pinnacle offers is much less than BET365 and the other UK books , for big events like if you want to bet on Man city you will find better value with pinnacle but people who are looking for Bet365 accounts aren't looking to bet on these leagues
Bet365 offer pretty much all the games worldwide and the majority of what they offer isn't available in Pinnacle or in Exchanges , that's why you see a lot of people buying accounts from other loser gamblers
Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.

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October 17, 2019, 08:10:18 AM
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle.

You are either one of the most brilliant sharps in the world or you are seeing value where there isn't any.



In my experience, sports betting is far better when compared to gambling in games like dice etc since your research and knowledge actually help. It is possible to profit regularly through sports betting and I have seen many people do it.

There are many ways to accomplish this op. My favorite way is arbitrage betting and accumulator betting. These are risky methods, but I have had a lot of success with these methods. I usually bet on moneyline and handicap bets using these methods.

You aren't the most brilliant sharp in the world.

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October 17, 2019, 10:13:47 AM
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You aren't the most brilliant sharp in the world.
I am simply another average bettor and nothing more. I get why so many people hate accumulator bets due to the bookmaker advantage and all, but I absolutely love them due to the entertainment aspect and the ability to turn small amounts into huge amounts thanks to luck and research.

I have consistently earned good money through accumulators and arbs though I always encourage risking small amounts only when it comes to accas.

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October 17, 2019, 11:03:00 AM
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I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week.
Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents).

So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons.
Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest.
30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill.

You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months.

If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me:
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A very interesting offer for us but I will not accept any offer from you that threatens my privacy. You are a new member here and new members cannot be trusted unless you have a guarantee from an honorable member. Maybe it will be valid for me if your offer is bridged by a third party (honorable member) with your initial guarantee, isn't that equally beneficial for us. I think if you are able to make that kind of money, then a small guarantee is not a problem for you.

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October 17, 2019, 11:09:54 AM
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Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?
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October 17, 2019, 03:42:46 PM
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.

I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him
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October 17, 2019, 04:14:55 PM
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.

I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him

This is not what I am doing and not what software does. Software places about 100 bets per day, in big leagues, everywhere. Relative small amount per bet but a lot of, so the variance is low and you generate winnings week by week. Sometimes there might be a week with losses but this happens maybe 5 times a year. But bets are not placed in these small leagues, maybe sometimes but just if there is a sharp bookie on other side which has same bet. I cannot find out what is value in these unpopular leagues you mentioned. Maybe there are some punters out there doing this, but it is not what I am doing.

As I mentioned before, nobody needs to send me his user credentials, I can everyone who is interested give the software to test. You will see that it is successful or do you think I develop such a complicated software if it would not be? :And I cannot do anything with your account even if I would have your user credentials. At the bookies you can just withdraw to your own bank account or skrill / neteller / paypal....

And yes everyone will get limited after some time and banned forever, but before this will happen everyone can generate 5k to 10k per person. Without doing a lot, just register, verify, deposit, withdraw. Nobody needs to believe but maybe someone here wants to test. I can also send the investment money for testing if it is a trusted member with lots of posts.

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October 17, 2019, 04:21:26 PM
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Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?
Hoho after you passed the verification and give him your account, he will run away from you.

A simple logic, if making money is that easy why didn't he work together with his friend in real life? no need to come to this forum and make himself looks like a scammer.

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October 17, 2019, 04:59:35 PM
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Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?
Hoho after you passed the verification and give him your account, he will run away from you.

A simple logic, if making money is that easy why didn't he work together with his friend in real life? no need to come to this forum and make himself looks like a scammer.

What shall I say to such a post? Some people are not able to read, it seems.
Did you read everything in this thread what I wrote? Nobody needs to send me his user credentials. And I did with friends and I explained here a lot of times that everyone will get banned after some time, it is proven by lot of experienced users in this forum that this will happen to winners. The bookies ban all winners, they don't care if you use software, if you do surebetting, valuebetting or bet on smaller leagues where you are an expert and you win. You will get banned after some time.

You don't have any experience, I am not able to run away even if I had credentials for example Bet365. Every user would be able to simple set back his password with the help of his email account. And I will never be able to withdraw to my account, just the user can withdraw to his bank account or an online account like Skrill. You don't know what you are writing and your simple logic is not very intelligent. Everyone who has accounts at bookmakers and other online platforms knows that passwords can be set back by emailadress within seconds.
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October 17, 2019, 05:13:58 PM
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Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?

You can also have the software and test on your own. I don't need your credentials. You can payout whenever you want, you generate constant winnings.
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October 17, 2019, 05:19:23 PM
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.

You've stated that you've arbed, and if you check your P/L history for your arbitrage bets, you'll see that you'll be negative on Pinnacle bets and positive on the other sportsbooks.

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October 17, 2019, 06:10:41 PM
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.

You've stated that you've arbed, and if you check your P/L history for your arbitrage bets, you'll see that you'll be negative on Pinnacle bets and positive on the other sportsbooks.

Thank you for this, you are a true expert.

But it could be true that he sometimes finds "value" on Pinnacle, with his own statistics and maybe early odds and when he is an expert in a small league. Or what does he think? If there is a surebet the value is always on the other side of pinnacle and other sharp bookies because they are too slow to adjust the odds and so there is a surebet for some minutes or sometimes longer. Every sports betting profi like you knows this Smiley So thanks for confirming that.
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October 17, 2019, 07:29:14 PM
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What's sort of account so you guys needs and what's the hard process if you create the account you need by your self, it doesn't matter how genuine you are this would still raise the dust about uncertainties
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October 18, 2019, 06:49:40 AM
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I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him
You are right since I do find value with the closing odds on Pinnacle though this happens minority of the time. Honestly, I have earned more through arbing when compared to value betting which is why I am a newbie when it comes to value-betting currently.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.
True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement.

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October 18, 2019, 05:28:10 PM
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I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing

you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him
You are right since I do find value with the closing odds on Pinnacle though this happens minority of the time. Honestly, I have earned more through arbing when compared to value betting which is why I am a newbie when it comes to value-betting currently.

You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.
True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement.

How do you find the value on closing line of pinnacle? You need to bet 1000s of bets, then you can really say if it was value.
This is what the software does.
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