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October 18, 2019, 11:58:48 PM
Last edit: October 19, 2019, 12:17:45 AM by BitcoinFX
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It's unfortunate to have to link to CoinGeek 'content', however CC Forum is being slow to upload the conference videos. (The link will be replaced if/when CC Forum uploads the video to youtube).

Here is the video of CSW presenting that he plagiarized Satoshi and at the same time effectively admitting that he is in fact not Satoshi ...

- https://youtu.be/oSXk_xFBJPU?t=736

He doesn't even attempt to back track on it, even the interviewer seems surprised and the body language speaks volumes.

Completely moronic.

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It is really unfortunate to see fights like these, grow up and have the patience to listen to everyone, if they want to walk out they can do that rather than having a fight so the entire world could watch, there is huge population outside who does not understand what is going on nor invested in the crypto market and all they see is two or three factions fighting out in the public which will not help anyone.

The people that get listened to are those with the biggest platforms. That's why banks now control the development of our once precious currency.

If indeed he is the real Satoshi do you think forking their own coin helps?

This guy is a blatant lie and he will have to pay for it. There is no faction here, its him that create a faction. What he is doing is exactly the opposite of what satoshi did in the past, you can't expect that to happen when the Satoshi swear to disappear butt Craig came close to declare he is superman.

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In response, Wright stated that Vays 'vain ideas' were irrelevant and that his company's patents would generate profits from the largest technology companies in the world. Then it will depend on the individual decisions of people whether they will use the Bitcoin SV cryptocurrency supported by Wright.


Then here are the Bitcoin Cash SV people saying that "Bitcoin has sold out because Blockstream". I believe those trolls don't look at their own "leaders", and what their motives are.

yes CW is a fake
yes Bsv is not even a blip on the crypto radar. but i find it funny how you want to make it into a thing


another funny thing is that you feel that everyone not being a teachers pet to core must be a troll for another group
seems that strange mindset you have is not original, and is becoming too common to just be random coincidence.
you have been programmed well


I have been programmed well to think that Bitcoin never bilaterally split to "Core and Cash"? That Bitcoin Cash isn't Bitcoin? You want me to open myself to lies?

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i find it absolutely strange (but obvious tactic) that you actually with to give CW some airtime, fame, standing in th cryptosphere instead of just ignoring him and letting him fad away. its obvious because you want him. he is your vessel and tool to push all core opponents into even if they are actually not part of. purely to ensure core dominance and tyranny on the actual btc ntwork


Tyranny? "Bitcoin" has split to all different forks. There's a "Bitcoin" for everyone, right?

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maybe you should look at your leaders, because we all (independent people) know you love the idea of leaderships and believe bitcoin will fall without a central group deciding on bitcoin


What you call "our leaders", they are not, are the most competent developers to maintain the protocol. That's why the community/market follows them.

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you really should spend some time on independent research and not chummy messages in a close minded/cabin fever environment.
yes if you talk only to core pets you will only hear a law of averages that core is X thus you end up believing X because its all you want to listen to


Independent research. About the lies you spread that Nick Szabo introduced Craig Wright as Satoshi? That lukedashjr said Bitcoin bilaterally split?

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P.S i have no leaders and never even touched bsv. but if you live in a world where groups have and need leaders, then you need to learn what bitcoin was really designed to do, before the core subversion tactics.
by this i mean look at and be critical of core, not appeal and ask for friendship from.

bsv is a nothing crypto. its meaningless and harmless. it could not impact bitcoin even if it tried. however core has too much power over bitcoin, and yet you love them.. think about it... rationally

oh. and goodluck showing no connction between gmax, wuille, luke jr, matt corralo and chums and their millions funded by banks via blockstream founding. really good luck trying to disprove the devs never got paid by corporations
(but as usual instead of being core critical you just want to shoo core opponents into some group that they are not in, purely to try to make it appear that they should be ignored not an original tactic. again ur programmed well)

but enjoy your secret chats with your chums and leader. by the way you got a bit of brown on your nose


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October 19, 2019, 09:00:28 AM
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Ok, I am totally confused now.... Faketoshi has all along claimed that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and now he is saying Satoshi Nakamoto stole his ideas for Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes  CW even said that he would flood the market with all his coins and kill the Bitcoin price, when he gets access to his coins. <delivered by Courier>  Grin

This snake oil salesman is painting himself into a corner with all his lies now, because he cannot even keep track of what he said previously and how this will be used as a counter argument to expose those lies in the future.  Tongue

The whole event was a "clickbait" strategy to get more attention.  Angry

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October 19, 2019, 10:25:29 AM
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Ok, I am totally confused now.... Faketoshi has all along claimed that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and now he is saying Satoshi Nakamoto stole his ideas for Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes  CW even said that he would flood the market with all his coins and kill the Bitcoin price, when he gets access to his coins. <delivered by Courier>  Grin

This snake oil salesman is painting himself into a corner with all his lies now, because he cannot even keep track of what he said previously and how this will be used as a counter argument to expose those lies in the future.  Tongue

The whole event was a "clickbait" strategy to get more attention.  Angry


He might be playing a Borat-like character to divide the community further. There's also probably a hidden anti-Bitcoin group behind it.

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October 19, 2019, 10:31:29 AM
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I have been programmed well to think that Bitcoin never bilaterally split to "Core and Cash"? That Bitcoin Cash isn't Bitcoin? You want me to open myself to lies?

Tyranny? "Bitcoin" has split to all different forks. There's a "Bitcoin" for everyone, right?

What you call "our leaders", they are not, are the most competent developers to maintain the protocol. That's why the community/market follows them.

Independent research. About the lies you spread that Nick Szabo introduced Craig Wright as Satoshi? That lukedashjr said Bitcoin bilaterally split?


OK. You enjoy Bitcoin Cash and browning your nose with Roger Ver.

1. pre 2017:
segwit was not bitcoin
cash was not bitcoin

the both are not the original bitcoin. so they bilatrally split. its exactly what a fork is: 2 or more directions .. if there was no split/fork it would be called a knife (cutlery analogy) if you think that segwit is still the original rules then you really need to do some research
if btc in 2017 stuck with the 2016 rules and didnt change. and cash forked off then yes you would have half a point that its not bilateral. but btc also changed when cash did. so it was a 2 way change of the rules. DO YOUR RESEARCH
also it was gmax that called it a bilateral split. he tagged it that name. its his buzzword (good luck trying to continue denying it)

2. and now your just flip flopping. so lets just use the 'dollar' analogy. there are many dollars(canadian, australian,etc) but the main one of concern (usd(btc)) has now become a centralised power house of control. btc has leaders and censorship
the byzantine generals problem was solved by blockchains invention. yet ou wish to deny that its important to stay decentralised and instead have a central leader. you really have not learned the real utility, function, beauty of what bitcoin/blockchain actually does


3. in the very same point as you saying they aint leaders. you then say people follow them.. do you know what the word leader means
leaders.. followers.. its simple english

4. and there you go again with the centralist mindset of if you dont like btc centralisation 'f**k off'. seems you prefer to have leaders and control rather than an open network without leaders.
you cant even have the rational mind that people can have independant thought. instead its if they dont like camp A they must be in camp B
you really have been brown nosing and think brown nosing is the only possibility in crypto.

and again i have no leaders i dont need people giving me pre-existing speaches/ideas. my thoughts are my own. but it is a mega shame you have nothing original. your thoughts are straight out the playbook of the chums you chat to in private.

you even have wasted 2 years of avoiding doing research just to be spoonfed what your thoughts should be. hense you have been programmed.
goodluck with your adoration brigade of core devs, but when they get older, bored, retire or unhealthy to continue .. where will your loyalties be

for you to even think that if i dont like the centralist core devs automatically makes me anti-bitcoin. just in of itself proves you deep down think bitcoin needs the central control of core, you actually believe that core and only core is bitcoin. (facepalm) your own words play against you by your loyalty shining brightly to a central group

have fun

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October 19, 2019, 10:45:23 AM
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Ok, I am totally confused now.... Faketoshi has all along claimed that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and now he is saying Satoshi Nakamoto stole his ideas for Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes  CW even said that he would flood the market with all his coins and kill the Bitcoin price, when he gets access to his coins. <delivered by Courier>  Grin

This snake oil salesman is painting himself into a corner with all his lies now, because he cannot even keep track of what he said previously and how this will be used as a counter argument to expose those lies in the future.  Tongue

The whole event was a "clickbait" strategy to get more attention.  Angry

clickbait - yes
trying to stay 'involved' in something he is not involved in - yes
CW flood the market - no
if the true hoarder of satoshi stash was to come and spend the coins, guess what. its a temporary price glitch. meaning a great discount day to buy more. if it ever happens(not by CW)  be ready to stock up

snake oil salesman - yes
purpose - its not to prove he is satoshi, but to create just a shadow of doubt that he isnt. its all he needs to stay a little safer from prosecution.

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Ok, I am totally confused now.... Faketoshi has all along claimed that he is the real Satoshi Nakamoto and now he is saying Satoshi Nakamoto stole his ideas for Bitcoin.  Roll Eyes  CW even said that he would flood the market with all his coins and kill the Bitcoin price, when he gets access to his coins. <delivered by Courier>  Grin

You have to watch this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LsDehf2Wgw one more to understand correctly what CW said.

CW said that he has evidence (again) and this time this is his Thesis which was published on the university in 2008 and will be published publicly after the case.

This Thesis is his Bitcoin work and people now can believe that he is the real Satoshi or that Nakamoto has plagiarised his work (Thesis - Bitcoin).

It's unfortunate to have to link to CoinGeek 'content', however CC Forum is being slow to upload the conference videos. (The link will be replaced if/when CC Forum uploads the video to youtube).

There is already a link from TheBSVLounge channel:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LsDehf2Wgw

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Never thought I'd see the day when Satoshi Nakamoto was called a scammer on bitcointalk.org.

I have some evidence that CSW is the author of every Satoshi post on this forum.


Hey MicroGuy, I think I've seen you a bunch of times before, maybe ... gambling? Yeah, probably there..

I remember MicroGuy, too.  Not exactly what I'd call a trusted source of information.  It's hardly surprising someone like that would be defending Craig "Scammer" Wright.

And onto my distrust list he goes.

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It's hard to understand what Vays is really doing there when you look at these Tweets he looks pretty like a CW best buddy.

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Tone Vays continued, claiming that documents published by Wright as evidence allegedly attributing to him the creation of Bitcoin were largely false. Vays said that there is no place for Craig Wright at such conferences.

In response, Wright stated that Vays 'vain ideas' were irrelevant and that his company's patents would generate profits from the largest technology companies in the world. Then it will depend on the individual decisions of people whether they will use the Bitcoin SV cryptocurrency supported by Wright.

"But my patents!"

How does Wright keep getting invited to these conferences? People are boycotting them over it, and it's just embarrassing for everyone involved. How is this still happening?

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October 19, 2019, 10:21:14 PM
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...What's with the "farmer" and "pumpkin" references?

I think all answers are provided in the OP or my later posts in this thread.

Many posts from other members also answer or provide an opinion to your concern about CW involvement in this London forum.

A member of this forum with your position should at least read the OP before jumping into the comments section.

Really try to read this thread in full (is not so long) and you won't be surprised by my answer.

...At the moment, an audience member has entered the action. She called Wright a "mole" who tries to overthrow Bitcoin and shouted threatening with her finger:

Farmer Craig! Pumpkin Craig Wright! Go back to your farm, to your pumpkins and tomatoes (...)

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October 19, 2019, 11:33:49 PM
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...What's with the "farmer" and "pumpkin" references?

I think all answers are provided in the OP or my later posts in this thread.

Not at all. I read the OP, watched the video, and then searched the thread. Why is she calling him a farmer? "Go back to your pumpkins and tomatoes and grow a super farm"...? Is she just deranged?

I just thought maybe there was more to the story than the ramblings of a crazy person. I guess I was wrong. It doesn't seem meme-worthy at all...

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October 19, 2019, 11:54:38 PM
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...What's with the "farmer" and "pumpkin" references?
I think all answers are provided in the OP or my later posts in this thread.
Not at all. I read the OP, watched the video, and then searched the thread. Why is she calling him a farmer? "Go back to your pumpkins and tomatoes and grow a super farm"...? Is she just deranged?...

Oh sorry then, my fault.

She called him a farmer and told to get back to grow a super farm because CEO of the Frontier Network, Eric Van Der Kleij chose to end the fireside chat by asking about Craig gardening habits.

“I actually used to have bonsai trees as well, and they’re all dead now,” he started. “I had some really good old bonsai trees, and bloody nChain and all the travel I have to do, every single one of them is dead. My tomatoes, they keep bursting and things like that, because I’m not there to do things. And the gardener sucks, because the last time, he actually mowed by pumpkins". “That’s probably not advisable,” Van Der Keij concluded.

I hope now this is for you more obvious why shy told him something like this.

https://coingeek.com/craig-wrights-week-at-cc-forum-angelina-lazar-and-pumpkin-mania/


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October 20, 2019, 01:04:51 AM
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No offence to the OP but we already have this thread isn't it? SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper. Do we really need another topic and give CSW that attention again?

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October 20, 2019, 02:37:58 AM
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Never thought I'd see the day when Satoshi Nakamoto was called a scammer on bitcointalk.org.

I have some evidence that CSW is the author of every Satoshi post on this forum.


Hey MicroGuy, I think I've seen you a bunch of times before, maybe ... gambling? Yeah, probably there..

No one has said Satoshi is a scammer. Only that CSW is a fraud. The link to the two has not been proven. Or there is no link.

Whatever evidence you have, it's most likely not proof. If he were indeed the author of every post, he should have no trouble getting back his account by providing proof to theymos. He should also have no problem providing this proof publicly, in the form of a signed bitcoin message from several of the first hundred addresses of the blockchain (from the first hundred blocks) including the genesis block, as well as signing a GPG message using the public key that's available ever since he first started posting.

https://bitcointalk.org/Satoshi_Nakamoto.asc

It can not be a private viewing, that makes no sense anymore. It has to be public and published for everyone to verify.


The alternative is what he said "I walk away from a billion dollars, or I'm called a fraud." ... I think he accepts that he is a fraud. He can plan his disappearance and exit now, then cash out some of his coins. But he won't. Because he can't.

You tell your friend CSW that you are in possession of these evidences so that he will make use of it. He is in very bad need of evidences right now. Every single one is appreciated even if it does not hold a single drop of water. After all, he has not yet produced even a single piece after all his claims and self-proclamation. Do it please. And good luck!  Wink
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October 20, 2019, 12:04:58 PM
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No offence to the OP but we already have this thread isn't it? SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper. Do we really need another topic and give CSW that attention again?

csw will find ways to create attention any way he can, forever. its what he does, as he apparently has no real talents for anything else but doing his clown shows. his antics are too varied and too stupid to contain in one thread.

i actually dont mind. its awesome comic relief.
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October 20, 2019, 01:02:18 PM
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No offence to the OP but we already have this thread isn't it? SCAM: Bitcoin SV (BSV) - fake team member and plagiarized white paper. Do we really need another topic and give CSW that attention again?

csw will find ways to create attention any way he can, forever. its what he does, as he apparently has no real talents for anything else but doing his clown shows. his antics are too varied and too stupid to contain in one thread.

i actually dont mind. its awesome comic relief.
I agree this is comedy gold. Actually I've seen the video like two days ago and give telling that Satoshi plagiarised his work? It gives me a good chuckle.  Grin

And people are going to invite him in conference because the more he open his mouth, the more people will realised that he ain't Satoshi, and the more that he is exposed 100%.
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October 20, 2019, 06:29:24 PM
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So good that Bitcoin doesn't need speakers, conferences, promotion and all that.

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October 21, 2019, 08:18:19 AM
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I have been programmed well to think that Bitcoin never bilaterally split to "Core and Cash"? That Bitcoin Cash isn't Bitcoin? You want me to open myself to lies?

Tyranny? "Bitcoin" has split to all different forks. There's a "Bitcoin" for everyone, right?

What you call "our leaders", they are not, are the most competent developers to maintain the protocol. That's why the community/market follows them.

Independent research. About the lies you spread that Nick Szabo introduced Craig Wright as Satoshi? That lukedashjr said Bitcoin bilaterally split?


OK. You enjoy Bitcoin Cash and browning your nose with Roger Ver.

1. pre 2017:
segwit was not bitcoin
cash was not bitcoin

the both are not the original bitcoin. so they bilatrally split. its exactly what a fork is: 2 or more directions .. if there was no split/fork it would be called a knife (cutlery analogy) if you think that segwit is still the original rules then you really need to do some research
if btc in 2017 stuck with the 2016 rules and didnt change. and cash forked off then yes you would have half a point that its not bilateral. but btc also changed when cash did. so it was a 2 way change of the rules. DO YOUR RESEARCH


Today, Bitcoin is Bitcoin. How do you determine which is it? You do you research.

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also it was gmax that called it a bilateral split. he tagged it that name. its his buzzword (good luck trying to continue denying it)


First lukedashjr, he said you troll. Now, gmaxwell? Hahaha.

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2. and now your just flip flopping. so lets just use the 'dollar' analogy. there are many dollars(canadian, australian,etc) but the main one of concern (usd(btc)) has now become a centralised power house of control. btc has leaders and censorship
the byzantine generals problem was solved by blockchains invention. yet ou wish to deny that its important to stay decentralised and instead have a central leader. you really have not learned the real utility, function, beauty of what bitcoin/blockchain actually does


It was sarcasm, not flipflop. But truthfully, no one cares anymore. Go to your Bitcoin.

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3. in the very same point as you saying they aint leaders. you then say people follow them.. do you know what the word leader means
leaders.. followers.. its simple english


You said they are leaders, not me.

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4. and there you go again with the centralist mindset of if you dont like btc centralisation 'f**k off'. seems you prefer to have leaders and control rather than an open network without leaders.
you cant even have the rational mind that people can have independant thought. instead its if they dont like camp A they must be in camp B
you really have been brown nosing and think brown nosing is the only possibility in crypto.

and again i have no leaders i dont need people giving me pre-existing speaches/ideas. my thoughts are my own. but it is a mega shame you have nothing original. your thoughts are straight out the playbook of the chums you chat to in private.

you even have wasted 2 years of avoiding doing research just to be spoonfed what your thoughts should be. hense you have been programmed.
goodluck with your adoration brigade of core devs, but when they get older, bored, retire or unhealthy to continue .. where will your loyalties be

for you to even think that if i dont like the centralist core devs automatically makes me anti-bitcoin. just in of itself proves you deep down think bitcoin needs the central control of core, you actually believe that core and only core is bitcoin. (facepalm) your own words play against you by your loyalty shining brightly to a central group

have fun


Why did you skip the part about the lies you made about Nick Szabo, and lukedashjr? Cool

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