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October 21, 2019, 08:16:27 AM
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I never wanted to run behind merits because for me its like I am changing my attitude and posting behaviour to get something in return. Just be yourself and learn more about cryptos.

The advice from day one has always revolve around not casing after the merits but that doesn't mean you should remain the way you were if your posting style or habit wasn't productive to the forum.  Don't forget, spammers are alway satisfied with the way they post so them changing won't just benefit them in regards to getting merited but it'll also benefit the forum in general as less spam and more productive discussion will be recorded on the forum.

There's nothing wrong in changing your style of posting when you notice they weren't productive in the first place, bear in mind the merit system was introduced to improve the level of quality contributions on the forum so if users are adjusting to this, you don't discourage them instead encourage them to make it a part of their posting style but not by faking it. It's more beneficial when you start producing quality contributions and this isn't just for the merit as it has other benefits like gaining more knowledge by interacting with other quality contributions and been recognized for your posting abilities (which come with it's own rewards).
No,I don't want to discourage anyone by creating this topic but I feels people chasing it rather than earning.

You can see people posting articles and tweets from someone to get merits which is the thing I feel as chasing.Merit also changed my posting behaviour but when people forcing them to get merits with useless predictions which even mostly from others,they will just add the source so they won't get banned.

Merit may change but people were pretending to be as more productive just for merits.
On this forum, Merit provides great opportunities, so everyone wants it.
Merit doesn't offer anything other than reaching ranks.
Sincerely, I kinda find it difficult to understand your arguments. Merits are good right? If something is good, people tend to rush for it. Its natural. So i agree with the first advice that even though I need the merits as a newbie, I must learn to earn it right. So if Im gonna chase merits (which is not likely), I have to learn and by doing so, I will know how to earn it properly. Thanks for your initiative anyway. Ive learnt a lot from it
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October 21, 2019, 08:17:55 AM
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I never wanted to run behind merits because for me its like I am changing my attitude and posting behaviour to get something in return. Just be yourself and learn more about cryptos.
But "being yourself" also means that you must also be open to improvements.

Ever since merit system came about, I think that was a wake up call for everyone to become better. After all, it was presented because there are some  members who are just posting mindlessly, not contributing enough to the forum and it's members, and are just after the income this forum provides. So, in addition to what you have said, just be yourself and strive to do your best and improve.everyday, then other things will follow.

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October 21, 2019, 09:50:30 AM
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Sincerely, I kinda find it difficult to understand your arguments. Merits are good right? If something is good, people tend to rush for it.
If they got interested to learn more about cryptos then its completely good but they want merit so they pretend to be knowledgeable without knowing in depth of that content.Newbie should chase knowledge and the merit will follow up is my statement.

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October 21, 2019, 12:59:45 PM
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If they got interested to learn more about cryptos then its completely good but they want merit so they pretend to be knowledgeable without knowing in depth of that content.Newbie should chase knowledge and the merit will follow up is my statement.

The moment you open this subforum and see the same contents or guides regurgitated

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October 21, 2019, 09:11:00 PM
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The essence of merits stem from the people who are so inclined into chasing for profits that their post quality suffer in the process.

The very reason on why this forum was created was to help newbies, share information to other people, create guides in cryptocurrencies in general, and communicate to people all around the world sharing the same idea and goal of spreading the message of cryptocurrencies.
Throughout the years when signature campaigns were created, people now deviated from this goal and focused more into earning profits, which is not a bad thing but if people focused on this aspect more, the forum will suffer in the long-run.

People should realize that the focal point of this forum is the sharing of ideas and the by-product of such knowledge is the merits! It will be a win-win situation wherein someone contributes the forum and through his contribution, he will be rewarded by merits!
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October 21, 2019, 10:10:14 PM
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For newbies of course they're after merits because you can't ranked up if don't have enough merits. Who doesn't want that? Lucky for those already at higher rank because they don't have to do so much in able to ranked up. Merit system is good tho. It mitigates the unnecessary account farming which makes the forum bad because of shitposters and account sellers. That's why merit system was implemented. They have to earn merit first before you reach higher rank. You have to post useful posts and it's up to the merit holder whether we give it or not.
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October 22, 2019, 01:16:19 AM
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I totally understand your point of view. In the chase for merits, users tend to post unnaturally. Well, merits offer extra features on platform which is a reaso i believe majority strive to get it
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October 22, 2019, 01:55:53 AM
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For newbies of course they're after merits because you can't ranked up if don't have enough merits. Who doesn't want that? Lucky for those already at higher rank because they don't have to do so much in able to ranked up. Merit system is good tho. It mitigates the unnecessary account farming which makes the forum bad because of shitposters and account sellers. That's why merit system was implemented. They have to earn merit first before you reach higher rank. You have to post useful posts and it's up to the merit holder whether we give it or not.

Sometimes I cannot say I do the right thing or not since never get any single merit yet from my post maybe there are lot of things that needed to brought up and that is also a challenge for newbies since I think to get a merit it's a great advantage if you are well known on this forum but if you are a simple wandering guy maybe merit is rare to be rewarded. But I'm not giving a bad shape on it since I'm happy that it was implemented since as you said by this system it eliminates trash and those account sellers.

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October 22, 2019, 06:21:00 AM
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Currently, nearly 2.000 different people (*) receive merits each month (the peak was 7.237 back in February 2018, and 4.916 during September 2018). Granted that it is less difficult for those that are already rolling the merit ball, and that the occasional poster will find it more difficult lest he persists and starts to be noticed through frequent contributions that sum up to something.

I’ve always said that the real challenge is not in obtaining the first few merits, but in moving along the middle to higher ranks. It’s doable of course, but it does require one to put in quite a fair share of time into it.

(*) See: https://public.tableau.com/shared/2Z772GBQW?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link
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I’ve always said that the real challenge is not in obtaining the first few merits, but in moving along the middle to higher ranks. It’s doable of course, but it does require one to put in quite a fair share of time into it.
I have received my 1st hundred too fast than I could imagine (at the beginning I thought it will take time). But now it has been slower, probably because I was not much active the last few weeks.
I had started here this year, have learnt a lot and shared them for newbie, that's how I earned a lot of merits.

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October 22, 2019, 07:47:02 AM
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For newbies of course they're after merits because you can't ranked up if don't have enough merits. Who doesn't want that? Lucky for those already at higher rank because they don't have to do so much in able to ranked up. Merit system is good tho. It mitigates the unnecessary account farming which makes the forum bad because of shitposters and account sellers. That's why merit system was implemented. They have to earn merit first before you reach higher rank. You have to post useful posts and it's up to the merit holder whether we give it or not.
We have merits sources and merit holders,merit sources who will have smerits refilled every month but most of them saying that they can't find enough good posts to award merits and complete their monthly quota,so it made the shit posters to stuck at their current rank forever but not sure about the account sellers who farmed or hacked accounts years ago still selling it but new DT system made them to be dried up to least and soon there will be no more account for selling.

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October 22, 2019, 08:59:30 AM
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Currently, nearly 2.000 different people (*) receive merits each month (the peak was 7.237 back in February 2018, and 4.916 during September 2018). Granted that it is less difficult for those that are already rolling the merit ball, and that the occasional poster will find it more difficult lest he persists and starts to be noticed through frequent contributions that sum up to something.

I’ve always said that the real challenge is not in obtaining the first few merits, but in moving along the middle to higher ranks. It’s doable of course, but it does require one to put in quite a fair share of time into it.

(*) See: https://public.tableau.com/shared/2Z772GBQW?:display_count=yes&:origin=viz_share_link


I'm so challenge to get those merit but I think I will struggle to have those but anyways I feel more alive when having these implemented on the forum since I myself aims to gather more so that I can rank up to legendary rank but for sure it will take for so many years since mostly people are not here to give merits since mostly they read the post here and leave.

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November 24, 2019, 04:26:40 PM
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Before the merit system was introduced, all people had to do to rank up was to make as many posts as possible and this soon became a problem because people were making so many shitty posts and the solution was to introduce the merit system which definitely reduced the number of awful posts in the forum but it also started a merit race, everybody wants to rank up, be seen among the top people in the forum and this is usually done by starry-eyed newbies but I have noticed that after a while, only a few of the linger for long after they realise that it's easier said than done.

The forum has matured past the stage where every half-assed post is merited, it is now in a stage where only the really good and helpful posts are merited so people can chase it all they want, that doesn't mean they would get it, just keep being yourself, spend as much of your free time as possible here, contribute positively to the forum and you would reach the peak in due time.
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November 26, 2019, 06:55:29 AM
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For newbies of course they're after merits because you can't ranked up if don't have enough merits. Who doesn't want that? Lucky for those already at higher rank because they don't have to do so much in able to ranked up. Merit system is good tho. It mitigates the unnecessary account farming which makes the forum bad because of shitposters and account sellers. That's why merit system was implemented. They have to earn merit first before you reach higher rank. You have to post useful posts and it's up to the merit holder whether we give it or not.
We have merits sources and merit holders,merit sources who will have smerits refilled every month but most of them saying that they can't find enough good posts to award merits and complete their monthly quota,so it made the shit posters to stuck at their current rank forever but not sure about the account sellers who farmed or hacked accounts years ago still selling it but new DT system made them to be dried up to least and soon there will be no more account for selling.

I'm merit source and in the beginning I really had problem to find good quality posts which I can reward with merits.
I realized that users who don't know English well and don't write posts often in English part of the forum have even less chance to get merits for good quality posts.
So,  I started topic in my local section of the forum where users can suggest good quality posts for merits.
After review some of this posts I reward with merits.
I also started similar topic here,  in beginners section but no so many people applied.
Any way,  my advice,  don't run for merits but if you have really good posts,  something what contribute to the forum or help others, than report this post in merits giveaway topics.

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November 26, 2019, 07:37:34 AM
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I’ve always said that the real challenge is not in obtaining the first few merits, but in moving along the middle to higher ranks. It’s doable of course, but it does require one to put in quite a fair share of time into it.
It's indeed a real challenge, and the time factor you mentioned plays a big role, for users who are really tied up with one thing or the other in real life, they could spend more time in a particular rank than another user(with almost the same knowledge)who is more often less busy and has more time to spend here.

But the best thing to do is to make the best of every time spent here, and that's exactly what I try to do, and if you keep believing the next rank will come and you're doing well to get it, it will take time, but you'll rank up.

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November 26, 2019, 09:48:21 AM
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I am a newbie to this forum and I am trying to find out what you are talking about. I think I understand it, and I think everything takes time.
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November 26, 2019, 02:53:21 PM
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This thing is in my mind for very long time now I decided to share with other forum members.

I can see lot of threads and guides for the newbie and other forum members says about "How to get merits",but is that necessary to chase merits? I never wanted to run behind merits because for me its like I am changing my attitude and posting behaviour to get something in return.Just be yourself and learn more about cryptos,why we wanted it and of course how to make money using cryptos.Help fellow forum members in the way you can,if you got recognized then merits will follow you up.

Ignore this topic if you didn't learn anything from this topic,I just wanted to say how I feels about getting merit. Smiley
I agree. Ever since the merit system began, the behavior of the poeple here have changed a lot since they are more after for merit and not to share knowledge, answer questions and ask. Merit is indeed important if you want your rank to increase but knowing the difficulty of getting it, it would be best if you would just sit back and do your thing the same way you did before when merit is not yet in the forum. If you are really eager on getting merits, find a place in the forum where they are generous on giving out merits and make sure you are making quality posts always.
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November 26, 2019, 03:26:44 PM
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For newbies of course they're after merits because you can't ranked up if don't have enough merits. Who doesn't want that? Lucky for those already at higher rank because they don't have to do so much in able to ranked up. Merit system is good tho. It mitigates the unnecessary account farming which makes the forum bad because of shitposters and account sellers. That's why merit system was implemented. They have to earn merit first before you reach higher rank. You have to post useful posts and it's up to the merit holder whether we give it or not.
We have merits sources and merit holders,merit sources who will have smerits refilled every month but most of them saying that they can't find enough good posts to award merits and complete their monthly quota,so it made the shit posters to stuck at their current rank forever but not sure about the account sellers who farmed or hacked accounts years ago still selling it but new DT system made them to be dried up to least and soon there will be no more account for selling.

I'm merit source and in the beginning I really had problem to find good quality posts which I can reward with merits.
I realized that users who don't know English well and don't write posts often in English part of the forum have even less chance to get merits for good quality posts.
So,  I started topic in my local section of the forum where users can suggest good quality posts for merits.
After review some of this posts I reward with merits.
I also started similar topic here,  in beginners section but no so many people applied.
Any way,  my advice,  don't run for merits but if you have really good posts,  something what contribute to the forum or help others, than report this post in merits giveaway topics.
Merit giveaway threads may not offer enough merits for ranking up its just to get the first-ever merits for newbies but other than this which may not have anything purposeful.But merit sources needs to be more active on all the boards to find worthy posts and we are seeing more local posters getting merits so the system is going in the right way rather than to post anyone out of their comfortzone.

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November 27, 2019, 02:44:40 PM
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For newbies of course they're after merits because you can't ranked up if don't have enough merits. Who doesn't want that? Lucky for those already at higher rank because they don't have to do so much in able to ranked up. Merit system is good tho. It mitigates the unnecessary account farming which makes the forum bad because of shitposters and account sellers. That's why merit system was implemented. They have to earn merit first before you reach higher rank. You have to post useful posts and it's up to the merit holder whether we give it or not.
We have merits sources and merit holders,merit sources who will have smerits refilled every month but most of them saying that they can't find enough good posts to award merits and complete their monthly quota,so it made the shit posters to stuck at their current rank forever but not sure about the account sellers who farmed or hacked accounts years ago still selling it but new DT system made them to be dried up to least and soon there will be no more account for selling.

I am an smerit source (since I actually spend my merits which I wish people would do since that is what they are for) I don't know what these other smerit sources are talking about? Maybe they don't read enough posts but there tons of good ones. I think I get 1 merit each day and that is not nearlly enough. You should get like 10. I am out in a few days. I don't give one measly little merit I give 2-5 at a time. I also sometimes give noobs just 1 point to level them up or if I see they need 1 more to rankup. So I will look at their posts and choose a good one and merit it. People are selfish man seriously. Noone should have merits after the first week or two of the month. People who still have merits and don't spend are selfish and I hope noone gives them merits. Another thing I notice with ridiculous is people giving legendaries merits. They don't need them they max rank already.

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November 27, 2019, 03:24:19 PM
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I am an smerit source (since I actually spend my merits which I wish people would do since that is what they are for) I don't know what these other smerit sources are talking about? Maybe they don't read enough posts but there tons of good ones. I think I get 1 merit each day and that is not nearlly enough. You should get like 10. I am out in a few days. I don't give one measly little merit I give 2-5 at a time. I also sometimes give noobs just 1 point to level them up or if I see they need 1 more to rankup. So I will look at their posts and choose a good one and merit it. People are selfish man seriously. Noone should have merits after the first week or two of the month. People who still have merits and don't spend are selfish and I hope noone gives them merits. Another thing I notice with ridiculous is people giving legendaries merits. They don't need them they max rank already.

Are you sure that you are smerit source, do you know what that means at all? You send 17 merits in last 120 days, and receive only 1....

You also think that merits are only given for good posts, and this is far away from the truth. Anyone can give merits to any post, merits are not moderated (except in rare cases), and sometimes posts with single word get merited. Everyone decides what to do with their merits, there is no rule about that.

If you want to see real merit sources in action, check this list, and you may notice my name on it, so despite I am Legendary and not merit source, I merit 218 users with 366 merits so far.

You have a completely wrong idea about merits.




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