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October 17, 2019, 10:52:52 PM |
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I don't see any chance that his opponent will beat him, crawford after this fight will remain undefeated. Hopefully betting line will be up soon, so we can check what the odds for Crawford to win this fight, his opponent has a great KO percent but the question is can he hit a faster crawford? Anyway, let's just watch this fight and maybe after this year the discussion about Pacman possible fight between him and Spence will continue.
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October 17, 2019, 10:58:13 PM |
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Maybe others here are surprised by the selection but Crawford's last bout was way back April and already had enough time to condition his body and take again another fight before the year ends. I believed it has nothing to do with Arum nor dodging the possible bout against other big names, but I think Crawford's Camp wants at least a great tuneup before attempting to make a call against big names, probably next year. They just minimize the risks of picking those boxers that is close to rank by either Pacquaio or Spence so the big match can be set up next year.
Pacquaio should be out of the possible options here since even Crawford's camp wants Pacquiao, the latter decided to spend his whole time this year in the Senate. They also have no chance to take a shot with Spence since it just recently when he has a fight.
We can expect Crawford vs Pacquaio vs Spence next year (hope Spence will get back to shape after his recovery period).
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October 17, 2019, 11:03:12 PM |
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Didn’t realize Crawford is now one of the cash cows of Bob Arum, must have been hard for him when Manny left and go for another promoter. Its not going to be a walk in the park for Crawford on this fight but looking at the last 3 fights of Kavaliauskas and Crawfords last 3 fights as well, Crawford has a high chance of winning here.
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October 18, 2019, 01:08:47 AM |
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@Oasisman - I agree mate, boxing politics really hinders the mega fight that boxing fans should enjoy. If ever they fight in the future, I think Crawford will have the advantage, imho. The audience has been building up already, it's just the promoters doesn't want it at this point and I'm sure those two are eager to face each other as well.
The promoters still wants to maximize the opportunity to monetize these two fighters. Of course a lot of people will watch their respective fights against different opponent, so fans could easily speculate and study the possibilities when these two meet in the same ring, and adding up the hype as well. If you remember how they built up the Pacquiao Mayweather fight, both are out of their prime, but still it became the "super bowl" of boxing. That's a world class marketing lol. That's why both promoters and fighters really needed for hype and marketing to be the next super bowl. But if they are facing cherry pick opponents, like Crawford did here or Spence on Mikey Garcia, then it may not come until both fighter are over the hill. As compare to Pacquaio who took the boxing world by storm and building the hype every time he won convincingly. That set up the biggest fight ever in boxing history.
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October 18, 2019, 01:31:39 AM |
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Didn’t realize Crawford is now one of the cash cows of Bob Arum, must have been hard for him when Manny left and go for another promoter. Its not going to be a walk in the park for Crawford on this fight but looking at the last 3 fights of Kavaliauskas and Crawfords last 3 fights as well, Crawford has a high chance of winning here.
Arum's other cash cow? Lomachenko. And that's why Arum is very protective of Crawford, it's understandable that after Manny leaving him and going to Haymon's he needs to find another fighter in the persona of Crawford to be his next big fighters coming from the Top Rank stable. And I'm sure with Arum's experience putting fighters to be on the p4p list, which Crawford is already in the top 3, he won't missed the cash flow when Manny is still with him. But I agree that Crawford chances of winning is like 90% here.
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October 18, 2019, 02:42:23 AM |
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Didn’t realize Crawford is now one of the cash cows of Bob Arum, must have been hard for him when Manny left and go for another promoter. Its not going to be a walk in the park for Crawford on this fight but looking at the last 3 fights of Kavaliauskas and Crawfords last 3 fights as well, Crawford has a high chance of winning here.
Arum's other cash cow? Lomachenko. And that's why Arum is very protective of Crawford, it's understandable that after Manny leaving him and going to Haymon's he needs to find another fighter in the persona of Crawford to be his next big fighters coming from the Top Rank stable. And I'm sure with Arum's experience putting fighters to be on the p4p list, which Crawford is already in the top 3, he won't missed the cash flow when Manny is still with him. But I agree that Crawford chances of winning is like 90% here. Arom have that mindset and impressions to Crawford, definitely the trust for the fighter to become one of his top pick. Probably this man would replaced Manny's legacy as Arum had been promoting great fighters in history, who've been so popular for many years. Manny's time has ended up with Arum, so now it another journey for him to find a new set of asset to hit the knock outs on the ring side.
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October 18, 2019, 03:36:12 AM |
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Kavaliauskas wasn't too convincing in his last outing which ended in a draw by majority decision. But both boxers go into this fight undefeated. Crawford would almost certainly be the favorite to win this bout. But with the strings of surprises we've had this year, he would need to take the gloves off, and prepare adequately for his opponent.
I do not even know who this fighter is hehe. In any case, this is why boxing's popularity is declining. The best are not fighting the best anymore. I reckon only Manny Pacquiao is the only latest boxer that has taken that challenge in 8 different weight divisions.
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October 18, 2019, 05:45:07 AM |
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Kavaliauskas wasn't too convincing in his last outing which ended in a draw by majority decision. But both boxers go into this fight undefeated. Crawford would almost certainly be the favorite to win this bout. But with the strings of surprises we've had this year, he would need to take the gloves off, and prepare adequately for his opponent.
I do not even know who this fighter is hehe. In any case, this is why boxing's popularity is declining. The best are not fighting the best anymore. I reckon only Manny Pacquiao is the only latest boxer that has taken that challenge in 8 different weight divisions. We can blame this to their respective promoters, they want to protect their cash cow by letting them fight low-level fighter, if they agree to let their fighter fight fighters of good caliber from different promotion and lost the fight he will lose future multi-million dollar deal so they opted to fighters that they think their fighter can easily beat, we'll have a hard time to see Crawford meet Spence although they should meet in the ring, respective promoters protect their interest, not boxing..
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October 18, 2019, 05:49:04 AM |
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This fight will not interest the people, its an easy fight by the champion and he will surely win this easily. Promoters should look for other boxers that could also bring some hype so this will be more interesting, actually, if Manny will retire as a boxer, I don't know if I will still be interested with boxing since the new champions now are not so interesting as Manny who are willing to fight anyone.
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October 18, 2019, 05:53:44 AM |
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This fight will not interest the people, its an easy fight by the champion and he will surely win this easily. Promoters should look for other boxers that could also bring some hype so this will be more interesting, actually, if Manny will retire as a boxer, I don't know if I will still be interested with boxing since the new champions now are not so interesting as Manny who are willing to fight anyone.
That's true Manny Pacquiao still brings a lot to do the table compared to the young generation of fighters now, this young generation of fighters prefer to fight low caliber fighter, just to retain and remain a champion, not really good for boxing, they want top-notch fight like they've seen in the Thurman Pacquiao match, this kind of boxing will result in a blockbuster fight in ticket and pay per views sales.
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October 18, 2019, 05:57:22 AM |
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This fight will not interest the people, its an easy fight by the champion and he will surely win this easily. Promoters should look for other boxers that could also bring some hype so this will be more interesting, actually, if Manny will retire as a boxer, I don't know if I will still be interested with boxing since the new champions now are not so interesting as Manny who are willing to fight anyone.
That's true Manny Pacquiao still brings a lot to do the table compared to the young generation of fighters now, this young generation of fighters prefer to fight low caliber fighter, just to retain and remain a champion, not really good for boxing, they want top-notch fight like they've seen in the Thurman Pacquiao match, this kind of boxing will result in a blockbuster fight in ticket and pay per views sales. They are protecting their undefeated record but that would not help them if they will not gamble with a fight that there's a chance they could loss. Thurman was talking trash about money but after the fight, look how the fans appreciate him, and personally he gained respect from me because of what he showed and he really gave a good fight that results to entertain the crowd.
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October 18, 2019, 06:25:56 AM |
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Not necessarily to choose because for sure all gamblers will put money on Crawford side because he's a good fighter as well like Pacquiao . Honestly i dont know kavaliauskas .but in my opinion it will be a good box and very intense such thurman vs Pacquiao because this time Crawford need to maintain the crown against on that AKA machine fighter. Im so excited on this fight . Lol
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October 18, 2019, 06:34:15 AM |
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I don't see any chance that his opponent will beat him, crawford after this fight will remain undefeated. Hopefully betting line will be up soon, so we can check what the odds for Crawford to win this fight, his opponent has a great KO percent but the question is can he hit a faster crawford? Anyway, let's just watch this fight and maybe after this year the discussion about Pacman possible fight between him and Spence will continue.
Looks like majority of the posters here favored Crawford’s ,the fight wasn’t starting but Kavaliauskas is already defeat if we will read all the post in this Match thread lol While I am also favor Crawford but I want to give credit the the opponent also because being undefeated he has the courage and skills to beat every individuals that will be faced in the ring so we cannot tell what’s the result until the game happens. So let’s get ready for our bets because some twist may happen before December I am sure
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October 18, 2019, 07:01:42 AM |
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We have been talking about a potential clash between the 2 best welterweights, Spence Jr and Crawford. However, we don't know if this can happen in the future though.
This will happen in the future (maybe) or they don't want to make their record dirty that is why they don't want to fight with each other. They are both undefeated but lets see if they will fight with each other in the future.
I have watched highlights of these new boxer to me (Mean Machine) and he throws a lot of punches and combination to his opponent. I also know how Crawford is that strong and many are saying that he will win but if you are predicting this early, remember the Joshua-Ruiz fight months ago ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Crawford has a higher chances of winning and I'm favoring to him but I would like to see a good fight between them since they are both undefeated and their records are on the line.
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October 18, 2019, 07:56:07 AM |
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Not necessarily to choose because for sure all gamblers will put money on Crawford side because he's a good fighter as well like Pacquiao . Honestly i dont know kavaliauskas .but in my opinion it will be a good box and very intense such thurman vs Pacquiao because this time Crawford need to maintain the crown against on that AKA machine fighter. Im so excited on this fight . Lol
the way Crawford moves yeah he really like Manny Pacquiao when he was younger,the speed and power punches is literally like the greatest Filipino fighter hoe after this fight he will fight Manny as well (though the chance is low because he may face Spence first)anyway just like everyone is saying,this is a Crawford fight and the opponent will face his first defeat and break the record
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October 18, 2019, 10:16:31 AM |
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Only Spence can make Crawford odds at 1.6 or above. The rest like Danny Garcia, Thurman and Pacquiao are 1.6 below.
Crawford vs Pacquiao below 1.6? Really? That means Pacman = 3.5 if that's the case but this fight is far from reality. Spence vs Crawford is the fight people want to see and i hope it would happen after this tune-up fight. Bob Arum should stop politicizing boxing and should retired already. Speaking of a 50/50 fight. Don't forget to watch this weekend's Artur Beterbiev-Oleksandr Gvozdyk unification fight. Bet on Gvozdyk and come back to me if you lose. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Really? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) .. Thanks for the tip, i would look into this.
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October 18, 2019, 11:37:04 AM |
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Kavaliauskas wasn't too convincing in his last outing which ended in a draw by majority decision. But both boxers go into this fight undefeated. Crawford would almost certainly be the favorite to win this bout. But with the strings of surprises we've had this year, he would need to take the gloves off, and prepare adequately for his opponent.
I do not even know who this fighter is hehe. In any case, this is why boxing's popularity is declining. The best are not fighting the best anymore. I reckon only Manny Pacquiao is the only latest boxer that has taken that challenge in 8 different weight divisions. Well boxing is a big business, with so many promoters/personalities around that's why we can't see the best fighting the best as compare to UFC. Canelo could be one boxers as well to rise to the rank as boxing cash cow. @bisdak40 - that's how Arum's build this empire and he can stop politicizing boxing if he is well rewarded like what they did on Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather.
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October 18, 2019, 01:56:38 PM |
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Kavaliauskas wasn't too convincing in his last outing which ended in a draw by majority decision. But both boxers go into this fight undefeated. Crawford would almost certainly be the favorite to win this bout. But with the strings of surprises we've had this year, he would need to take the gloves off, and prepare adequately for his opponent.
I do not even know who this fighter is hehe. In any case, this is why boxing's popularity is declining. The best are not fighting the best anymore. I reckon only Manny Pacquiao is the only latest boxer that has taken that challenge in 8 different weight divisions. Well boxing is a big business, with so many promoters/personalities around that's why we can't see the best fighting the best as compare to UFC. Canelo could be one boxers as well to rise to the rank as boxing cash cow. @bisdak40 - that's how Arum's build this empire and he can stop politicizing boxing if he is well rewarded like what they did on Pacquiao vs Floyd Mayweather. This is why boxing nowadays isnt really that entertaining because of this matter where it tends that most fights do really mixed up some sort of politics. You would really have that questions in mind when it comes to fight arrangements which it supposed to be on other more worthy opponent than a mismatched ones. I wouldnt be surprised for future fight arrangements ahead.
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October 18, 2019, 02:14:15 PM |
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Crawford vs. Kavaliauskas When: December 14 Venue: Madison Square Garden Terence “Bud” Crawford will defend his WBO welterweight world title against undefeated mandatory challenger Egidijus “Mean Machine” Kavaliauskas Saturday, December 14 at Madison Square Garden as part of a special ESPN-televised tripleheader that will immediately follow the 2019 Heisman Trophy Presentation (9 p.m. ET/6 p.m. PT). ESPN Deportes will provide the Spanish-language telecast. https://www.boxingscene.com/crawford-vs-kavaliauskas-finalized-december-14--143385![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2Fbs15bfD%2Fcrawford-kavaliauskas.jpg&t=665&c=Jneew3neqEPJLw) There's no odds at sportbet.io yet but I'm sure Crawford will be the favourite here. Well, it says mandatory challenger, but I must say that Crawford should step up his competition. Bob Arum really knows how to protect his cash-cow. We have been talking about a potential clash between the 2 best welterweights, Spence Jr and Crawford. However, we don't know if this can happen in the future though. Will there be many who bet on this match? I am not very familiar with Crawford and C kavaliauskas. but if you look at the fighting styles of these two battles, chances are that will win is crawford. but if crawford can't control his battle a different thing will happen, he will have difficulty dealing with kavaliauskas attacks.
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