Betcoin.AG claims DT members demanded money to change feedback

[GSpgh]

I can confirm it was reported and it appears to be legitimate. Blazr hasn't been online in a long time but he probably should be excluded.

I'm kind of relieved it wasn't one of the currently active DT members. Interesting that Blazr has not posted for 3 years but responded to Betcoin's PM.

Someone inactive for 3 years should have been removed from DT a long time ago I think, maybe after 1 year?

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[The Sceptical Chymist]

You have one chance to guess who controls that account.

*eats popcorn* 

Lauda!  You're back.  Now it's only a matter of time until cryptohunter and his posse of multiple pathological personalities starts ranting again. 

I think I know who you have in mind, and it wouldn't surprise me if it were true.  I don't even remember the last time I saw the name Blazr, and it is odd that that account would suddenly become embroiled in something like this, an extortion attempt of a gambling site. 

And yeah, given the inactivity of the account I don't think Blazr should still be on any level of DT.  I had a feeling the screenshot wasn't faked (just intuition), and TECSHARE's post just makes that feeling stronger.  It's a scammy thing to do, and Blazr should be removed from DT if he hasn't been already.  I'm going to ~ him in my trust list.

[AB de Royse777]

Blazr should be removed from DT if he hasn't been already.  I'm going to ~ him in my trust list.

I have done the same (the ~) and not sure what you and Lauda is smoking now :-P

[FIFA worldcup]

Now it's only a matter of time until cryptohunter and his posse of multiple pathological personalities starts ranting again. 

No, We do not want another Pandora box to be opened.
Already have enough of these from them and now they have got another point to start trolling again. 

[TheNewAnon135246]

Added him to my distrust list as well.

[Timelord2067]

Thread archived.

Blazr was last online in January, and last posted in 2016.
I can think of 3 possibilities:
1. The screenshot can be fake.
2. Blazr's account might be compromised
3. Blazr might have given up on the forum, and YOLO "nothing to lose".

According to BPIP https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=Blazr

Blazr woke up just in time to receive the message:

2019-01-11 2:53:16 AM    woke up
2019-01-12 2:53:16 AM    woke up

Blazr (or whoever controls the UID) must have had email notifications set up to "wake up" within hours of the message being sent by Betcoin.AG


The Blazr UID page was last archive on 25th September 2018 and shows the account was at that point was

Last Active:    July 06, 2018, 08:54:56 AM

How long do you have to be asleep for before the "woke up" flag occurs?

[actmyname]

How long do you have to be asleep for before the "woke up" flag occurs?

You're considered to have woken up if your last login time is 180+ days ago, and the message remains for 30 days.

[Timelord2067]

How long do you have to be asleep for before the "woke up" flag occurs?

You're considered to have woken up if your last login time is 180+ days ago, and the message remains for 30 days.

6^th July 2018 to 11^th January 2019 is about 180+ days


Then if my hypothesis is correct, Blazr's email (on the UID page) which can be seen by anyone logged in would have to have been hacked along with the BCT account.

OR

Blazr has gone rogue after-all.

[PrimeNumber7]

To clarify, we offered this person chips to test the site and they asked for us to send 2 BTC to their personal wallet.

Why were you offering the person 'test chips' in the first place? Was this done in the context of the person possibly removing the negative trust? Was the context that it would allow the person to deposit their own separate money, and gamble without you knowing it was the person making the bet?

opps, when you will read the screenshot you should realize why they offer 'test chips'. I can't see anything wrong there. They didn't offer exactly to remove their feedback. There was accusation which has solved but they didn't removed feedback. That's why Betcoin.AG offered to play on their site for experience how they improved their site. I think there is no option for manipulate on gambling, otherwise all site will gain money and users will loss. I will not put money on any site post testing purposes, who will return it if lost. Probably that was reason why Betcoin.AG offered 'test chips'.


However, I can't go any conclusion until verify PM. I have request to 'hilariousandco'  and sent PM for take a look here. Hope we will go to final solution.

You are correct, I had not seen the published PM prior to posting my post (I had saved the thread to comment at a later date, and had not reviewed the entire thread prior to posting; this is one reason why I wish to avoid drama related threads).

The last posts in Blazr's post history is him addressing indications his account was compromised. He produced a signed message, but maybe someone was able to obtain his private keys. I also noticed that Blazr left his rating about a month after he last posted. Prior to these posts, Blazr had not posted for several months. Maybe in late 2015, Blazr decided he did not want to participate in the forum anymore.

I also see a clear effort to hide a potion of Blazr's post history. I don't know if this is because of something nefarious, or to enhance his privacy, or both.

I looked at the PM from many different angles, and I don't believe Blazr is someone who should be trusted. It appears that he is trying to sell trust, which perverts the trust system. He specifically said he would use the coin he received to gamble at betcoin, but using the same coin defeats the point of not using test chips. My opinion would be different if Blazr had offered to return the coin, net of any gain or loss after testing various games, and withdrawing.

[Timelord2067]

Has anyone else noticed that whenever Quickseller seems to speak as though he is familiar with the person at the centre of an accusation all he really does if fill three or four paragraphs with non-sence? 

[hacker1001101001]

Has anyone else noticed that whenever Quickseller seems to speak as though he is familiar with the person at the centre of an accusation all he really does if fill three or four paragraphs with non-sence?  

Have you noticed he is here from much long time and could have generated a good sort of judgement skills in identifying users here or faces behind a familiar accusation.

Afterall, he is one of the most prominent and active "protesters" here.

I don't think he fills the spaces with non-sense and he doesn't even control the Blazr's account, as QS would not have that stupid strategies of scamming BTC from an casino, he could have used the account in more harmful ways for sure.

[nutildah]

Has anyone else noticed that whenever Quickseller seems to speak as though he is familiar with the person at the centre of an accusation all he really does if fill three or four paragraphs with non-sence?  

Are you inferring that PrimeNumber7 is Quickseller? After doing a quick review of PrimeNumber7's post history, they definitely appear to be the alt of somebody. Their very first post was in Meta, which is a dead giveaway for being an alt.

theymos accepting Grin is symbolic more than anything.

Grin doesn't appear to be accepted for ad auction payments, which leaves payments for Copper memberships and proxy bans (I am unsure if the later accepts payment via Grin).

There are less than 680 copper members wearing their copper membership title. The payments for these memberships could fit into one Bitcoin block, and the copper membership has been available for years.

Really -- a first post about theymos and Copper Memberships? Anybody else here mention theymos in their very first post on the forum?

Their writing style is rather similar, and they tend to be interested in the same issues (as well as have a habit of poking their head into issues that don't concern them).

I apologize if this was already "common knowledge;" its news to me.

[Timelord2067]

Has anyone else noticed that whenever Quickseller seems to speak as though he is familiar with the person at the centre of an accusation all he really does if fill three or four paragraphs with non-sence?  

Have you noticed he is here from much long time and could have generated a good sort of judgement skills in identifying users here or faces behind a familiar accusation.

Afterall, he is one of the most prominent and active "protesters" here.

I don't think he fills the spaces with non-sense and he doesn't even control the Blazr's account, as QS would not have that stupid strategies of scamming BTC from an casino, he could have used the account in more harmful ways for sure.

...and yet he never saw Blazr scamming coming - did he? Ouch that gun-shot to the foot must have hurt...  

Are you inferring that PrimeNumber7 is Quickseller?

Goodness me - did I say that... tut-tut, perish the thought...  

[Lauda]

You have one chance to guess who controls that account.
*eats popcorn*  

Lauda!  You're back.  Now it's only a matter of time until cryptohunter and his posse of multiple pathological personalities starts ranting again.  

It seems to me that this section is weaker than ever, maybe the army of wanking leftists and "modern-progressive liberals" has finally scaremongered people to refrain from acting.
Man up, otherwise you're just worthless bags of meat.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=921

[hacker1001101001]

...and yet he never saw Blazr scamming coming - did he? Ouch that gun-shot to the foot must have hurt...  

I don't think you are reviewing this matter seriously, it looks like passing comments which are like fantasy. But your true heart would knew, QS hopefully has better strategies to hide his accounts, it not an connecting address game anymore.

Blazr didn't posted from June 14, 2016, he was last active before more than 180 days, the scammer whoever it is the original owner or impersonator didn't tried to scam publicly but via PM. It was surely pretty unpredictable even to the most active users here. Even none of the details of the profile are changed after they woke up like email or password. This just incline me to think the account is most probably still in control of the real owner, I mean he as already did this before by taking a gap from 2015 to 2016, so he can take interest here again.

I don't think this gunshots would hurt someone who has generated thick skin here from years.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

It seems to me that this section is weaker than ever, maybe the army of wanking leftists and "modern-progressive liberals" has finally scaremongered people to refrain from acting.

Nah, it's gotten less agressive but I don't think it has anything to do with leftist politics so much as members like you have been gone for a while.  The mood definitely shifts when certain members go away.

Man up, otherwise you're just worthless bags of meat.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=921

Supported. 

Are you inferring that PrimeNumber7 is Quickseller? After doing a quick review of PrimeNumber7's post history, they definitely appear to be the alt of somebody. Their very first post was in Meta, which is a dead giveaway for being an alt.

Yeah, probably.  New members most likely don't have an immediate interest in forum goings-on unless they've been lurking for a while like I did before I registered this account.  I just gave 2 merits to Primenumber7 for a post here, since it was a decent one but I'm hoping that account isn't a QS alt.  I don't know how many he controls these days.

[Quickseller]

Has anyone else noticed that whenever Quickseller seems to speak as though he is familiar with the person at the centre of an accusation all he really does if fill three or four paragraphs with non-sence? 

Have you noticed he is here from much long time and could have generated a good sort of judgement skills in identifying users here or faces behind a familiar accusation.

Afterall, he is one of the most prominent and active "protesters" here.

I don't think he fills the spaces with non-sense and he doesn't even control the Blazr's account, as QS would not have that stupid strategies of scamming BTC from an casino, he could have used the account in more harmful ways for sure.

...and yet he never saw Blazr scamming coming - did he? Ouch that gun-shot to the foot must have hurt... 

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1510537.msg15195222#msg15195222

The GPG keys he is signing with belong to the "real" blazr. That does not mean much though.

The admins are not going to be able to do very much in terms of checking if ownership changed or not because I understand that the "real" blazr was using tor for at least the last year.

Considering he was providing signed messages, I am not sure how much more clear I could have been.

[Timelord2067]

Considering he was providing signed messages, I am not sure how much more clear I could have been.

Considering this is your first post in this thread ... (it is your first post - isn't it?) ... please don't ass/u/me we read posts of yours in other threads...