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October 26, 2019, 06:38:14 PM
Last edit: October 28, 2019, 05:33:37 PM by Zuzma123
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Dear moderator

My Zuzma profile was blocked 16.10.2019
 This is my only profile. I tried to abide by the rules of the forum, I didn’t deceive anyone, I did no harm.
Never participated in bounty companies.  I didn’t earn money on the forum.
Out of inexperience, of course i could skip somewhere and not inset a link to the source in my early posts, but this was done  without malicious intent.

Please unlock my account.

I hope for Your honest and fair approach to my question.
I apologize for my bad English.

Best regards

Zuzma
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October 28, 2019, 05:55:20 PM
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I’ve never seen Zuzma involved in a bounty campaign, signature or other criminal activity. Please unban Zuzma.
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October 28, 2019, 06:16:25 PM
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I’ve never seen Zuzma involved in a bounty campaign, signature or other criminal activity. Please unban Zuzma.
Involvement on a bounty campaign and doing some signatures are not liable for a ban but if you really did a serious offense let's say a criminal activity as @MoxnatyShmel just said and did not abide within the rules that for sure is liable for a ban. Please explain what happened not just hurrying to tell everybody over something that we are not aware of we can't understand it and besides your posts are in German and Russian language we can't comprehend it even if we did a review over your account if what really happened.

Is this a local issue? Maybe your local mod will help you with this or you may follow the steps here to recover your account again Recovering hacked/lost accounts.
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October 28, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Last edit: October 28, 2019, 07:26:21 PM by wh1rlw1nd
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For me it's some kind of unfairness being banned for simply one post that containted quote without source link.
Taking into account that Zuzma didn't participate in any kind of bounty or signature campaigns, means that the only reason for him to be here - communicate, share and develop russian local crypto commuinity and environment. I enjoyed his posts and gave him merits.
I support unban for Zuzma. If you want and can, i suggest only temporal ban (month or so), that will be the lesson for him - in educational purpose only and not a full elimination of entire account.

Cheers.

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October 28, 2019, 06:23:43 PM
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This seems to be the post that got you banned:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1090299 Zuzma
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Mнoгиe люди ceйчac в пaникe, дyмaют: "чтo жe пpoиcxoдит, кyдa кaтитcя миp, a кaкжe Лaмбopджини к июнy мecяцy?? Гдe мoй биткoин пo 50 000$?" Этo нe кoнeц cвeтa, дpyзья. Pынoк мaл, пoэтoмy им лeгкo мaнипyлиpoвaть кpyпными дeньгaми. B pынкe oчeнь мнoгo нoвичкoв, кoтopыe тepяют cвoи кpoвнoзapaбoтaнныe, oтдaвaя oпытным дядькaм c Уoл Cтpит. (Bы жe нe дyмaли, чтo дeньги биpжи выдaют или oни из вoздyxa пoявляютcя, кoгдa вы фикcиpyeтe пpoфит? Ecли вы зapaбoтaли, тo ктo-тo пoтepял. Hy a ecли вы пoтepяли, тo ктo-тo зapaбoтaл, кpyгoвopoт....) Taк вoт, кoгдa бoльшиe дeньги зaкyпятьcя пo дeшeвoй цeнe, pынoк пoйдeт ввepx, a ycкopять eгo бyдyт тe, ктo oткpывaл в кopoткyю и нe ycпeл зaфикcиpoвaть, им пpидeтcя пoкyпaть, чтo пpидacт импyльca цeнe, дpyгиe жe тpeйдepы, yвидят, чтo вce вcтaлo нa cвoи мecтa, poднoй битoчeк pacтeт и тoжe нaчнyт пoкyпaть, тaк нaчнeтcя нoвaя вoлнa. Hy a пoкa, бoльшиe дeньги дeлaют дeньги, зacтaвляя пpoдaвaть cлaбыx тpeйдepoв в пaникe.
Original: https://telemetr.me/content/AAAAAEH6Fbv41obLrOgxIw/14

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Чeмпиoн, paccкaжи caмocтoятeльнo пpo нecкoлькo пpoдaнныx aккayнтoв, paз yж пpo бaмпинг инфopмaция yжe вcплылa... Grin Grin Grin

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October 28, 2019, 06:36:51 PM
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I’ve never seen Zuzma involved in a bounty campaign, signature or other criminal activity. Please unban Zuzma.
Involvement on a bounty campaign and doing some signatures are not liable for a ban but if you really did a serious offense let's say a criminal activity as @MoxnatyShmel just said and did not abide within the rules that for sure is liable for a ban. Please explain what happened not just hurrying to tell everybody over something that we are not aware of we can't understand it and besides your posts are in German and Russian language we can't comprehend it even if we did a review over your account if what really happened.

Is this a local issue? Maybe your local mod will help you with this or you may follow the steps here to recover your account again Recovering hacked/lost accounts.

My Zuzma account was blocked for plagiarism. At first, when I started to write posts on the forum, in most cases I wrote in only one branch: “analytics, analysis, forecasts, news”. Because I only read it, rarely reading other topics of Bitcoin. I violated the rules of the forum in that in the copied post from the channel’s telegrams, I did not paste the link, I did it without malicious intent. I liked the idea, so I quoted it. To my regret, I was not familiar with the rules of the forum at that moment. I also understand that this does not relieve me of responsibility.
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October 28, 2019, 06:38:22 PM
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I’ve never seen Zuzma involved in a bounty campaign, signature or other criminal activity. Please unban Zuzma.
Involvement on a bounty campaign and doing some signatures are not liable for a ban but if you really did a serious offense let's say a criminal activity as @MoxnatyShmel just said and did not abide within the rules that for sure is liable for a ban. Please explain what happened not just hurrying to tell everybody over something that we are not aware of we can't understand it and besides your posts are in German and Russian language we can't comprehend it even if we did a review over your account if what really happened.

Is this a local issue? Maybe your local mod will help you with this or you may follow the steps here to recover your account again Recovering hacked/lost accounts.


It was a joke)) wh1rlw1nd explained all above. I think the permanent ban is too severe punishment for a typical mistake of any beginner.
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October 28, 2019, 06:45:51 PM
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This seems to be the post that got you banned:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1090299 Zuzma
Plagiarism

Copy:
Mнoгиe люди ceйчac в пaникe, дyмaют: "чтo жe пpoиcxoдит, кyдa кaтитcя миp, a кaкжe Лaмбopджини к июнy мecяцy?? Гдe мoй биткoин пo 50 000$?" Этo нe кoнeц cвeтa, дpyзья. Pынoк мaл, пoэтoмy им лeгкo мaнипyлиpoвaть кpyпными дeньгaми. B pынкe oчeнь мнoгo нoвичкoв, кoтopыe тepяют cвoи кpoвнoзapaбoтaнныe, oтдaвaя oпытным дядькaм c Уoл Cтpит. (Bы жe нe дyмaли, чтo дeньги биpжи выдaют или oни из вoздyxa пoявляютcя, кoгдa вы фикcиpyeтe пpoфит? Ecли вы зapaбoтaли, тo ктo-тo пoтepял. Hy a ecли вы пoтepяли, тo ктo-тo зapaбoтaл, кpyгoвopoт....) Taк вoт, кoгдa бoльшиe дeньги зaкyпятьcя пo дeшeвoй цeнe, pынoк пoйдeт ввepx, a ycкopять eгo бyдyт тe, ктo oткpывaл в кopoткyю и нe ycпeл зaфикcиpoвaть, им пpидeтcя пoкyпaть, чтo пpидacт импyльca цeнe, дpyгиe жe тpeйдepы, yвидят, чтo вce вcтaлo нa cвoи мecтa, poднoй битoчeк pacтeт и тoжe нaчнyт пoкyпaть, тaк нaчнeтcя нoвaя вoлнa. Hy a пoкa, бoльшиe дeньги дeлaют дeньги, зacтaвляя пpoдaвaть cлaбыx тpeйдepoв в пaникe.
Original: https://telemetr.me/content/AAAAAEH6Fbv41obLrOgxIw/14

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Чeмпиoн, paccкaжи caмocтoятeльнo пpo нecкoлькo пpoдaнныx aккayнтoв, paз yж пpo бaмпинг инфopмaция yжe вcплылa... Grin Grin Grin

C yдoвoльcтвиeм, вы мнe тoлькo cкaжитe дeньги тo гдe зaбpaть?  Wink

veleor, впoлнe лoгичнo и дocтyпнo pacкpыл cвoю мыcль, ты жe нaдcмexaeшьcя нaд eгo oбocнoвaнными cлoвaми. T.e. кoгдa пpeтeнзии кacaютcя твoeй peпyтaции - тeбe мoжнo вecти ceбя выcoкoмepнo ?

Ecть и чeтвepтый вapиaнт, пoчeмy oн тaк ceбя вeдeт - этo зaвиcть. Hиктo нe пpизнaл eгo тaлaнтa пocтepa, пoэтoмy oн peшил пaкocтить вceм ocтaльным


I understand that it’s difficult to name an account created in July 2017 as a beginner, but I really just read the forum most of the time.
Yes, they blocked it for this message 05.02.2018
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October 28, 2019, 06:55:54 PM
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Good thing it's explained and I do understand your stands over it, you know moderators are just doing their respective job and if there are reported posts and the claim is correct then work must be done but moderators too are not that inconsiderate I guess and for sure they'll look into this issue.

Anyways good luck with your appeal and hope it turns out favorable on you.
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October 28, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
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Please unban Zuzma! He is a good and worthy member of the Russian local! He never participated in the bounty! Just didn't know the rules and made a mistake! Please give the man another chance!

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October 28, 2019, 07:20:15 PM
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Good thing it's explained and I do understand your stands over it, you know moderators are just doing their respective job and if there are reported posts and the claim is correct then work must be done but moderators too are not that inconsiderate I guess and for sure they'll look into this issue.

Anyways good luck with your appeal and hope it turns out favorable on you.

Thanks for the good wish. I understand that the moderators are simply doing their job, and therefore came here with such a request to unblock my account
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October 28, 2019, 07:52:17 PM
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hey guys, where are we going?
the punishment was too harsh for just one two-year-old post.

also please note: his posts has never included any obscenities or frank shitposting
please unban
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October 28, 2019, 09:19:40 PM
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I’ve never seen Zuzma involved in a bounty campaign, signature or other criminal activity. Please unban Zuzma.
Involvement on a bounty campaign and doing some signatures are not liable for a ban but if you really did a serious offense let's say a criminal activity as @MoxnatyShmel just said and did not abide within the rules that for sure is liable for a ban. Please explain what happened not just hurrying to tell everybody over something that we are not aware of we can't understand it and besides your posts are in German and Russian language we can't comprehend it even if we did a review over your account if what really happened.

Is this a local issue? Maybe your local mod will help you with this or you may follow the steps here to recover your account again Recovering hacked/lost accounts.

My Zuzma account was blocked for plagiarism. At first, when I started to write posts on the forum, in most cases I wrote in only one branch: “analytics, analysis, forecasts, news”. Because I only read it, rarely reading other topics of Bitcoin. I violated the rules of the forum in that in the copied post from the channel’s telegrams, I did not paste the link, I did it without malicious intent. I liked the idea, so I quoted it. To my regret, I was not familiar with the rules of the forum at that moment. I also understand that this does not relieve me of responsibility.
You really irresponsibly broke the rules. You have not only not read the rules, you have not studied how the forum lives. Ignored my reminders that you should always put a link. I reminded many times in your topic. It is amazing that in the Bitcoin community, people are so primitive, they lose their accounts. need to be more serious.

I looked at the Zuzma profile, it does not look like a malicious intruder, an ordinary live user. I don’t know if he has other accounts or not, whether there is still plagiarism or not, but his communication enlivened the discussions. I can say that there are not many similar live users who write not for the bounty in the Russian section. If there is no other serious violation, I would also like to see him on the forum.

The decision is up to the moderators. Zuzma, if you do not come back, shake my hand.

Most recently, I made 5 reports for plagiarism, to the user fxpc.
He was engaged in:
1. Doxxing.
2. trolling.
3. plagiarism - 5 times.
4. inciting ethnic hatred.
5. Bitcoin hater.
 and judging by the service https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=fxpc they did not block it.

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October 28, 2019, 10:02:23 PM
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Zuzma is great community member, he never shitposted. I do not think, that his just one old case of plagiarism had special reasons. Well, he got merited. If he would do it for merits, would it be just one case? I do not think so. It looks more like a newbe mistake (because I do not want to discuss absurdness of adding links to some shitty telegram channels here). Anyway ban for this is not fair in my opinion. I still believe in common sense, so please unban. As a punishment you can ban his signature for few months (lol)

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October 29, 2019, 06:26:48 AM
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You really irresponsibly broke the rules. You have not only not read the rules, you have not studied how the forum lives. Ignored my reminders that you should always put a link. I reminded many times in your topic. It is amazing that in the Bitcoin community, people are so primitive, they lose their accounts. need to be more serious.

I looked at the Zuzma profile, it does not look like a malicious intruder, an ordinary live user. I don’t know if he has other accounts or not, whether there is still plagiarism or not, but his communication enlivened the discussions. I can say that there are not many similar live users who write not for the bounty in the Russian section. If there is no other serious violation, I would also like to see him on the forum.

The decision is up to the moderators. Zuzma, if you do not come back, shake my hand.



Since the rules were tightened and they began to write about it in the branch “analytics, analysis, forecasts”, I began to be more attentive to quoting other people's thoughts. Yes, I agree that it was unrequited at the very beginning. But at that time (early 2018 - mid 2018), even the section in which we write was called differently “analytics, analysis, forecasts, news”.

Thank you guys all for your aid!
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October 29, 2019, 07:07:54 AM
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Sorry I don't speak english, but London it the capital of Great Britain, becouse unban Zuzma! Roll Eyes
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October 29, 2019, 07:12:27 AM
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Чeмпиoн, paccкaжи caмocтoятeльнo пpo нecкoлькo пpoдaнныx aккayнтoв, paз yж пpo бaмпинг инфopмaция yжe вcплылa... Grin Grin Grin

C yдoвoльcтвиeм, вы мнe тoлькo cкaжитe дeньги тo гдe зaбpaть?  Wink

veleor, впoлнe лoгичнo и дocтyпнo pacкpыл cвoю мыcль, ты жe нaдcмexaeшьcя нaд eгo oбocнoвaнными cлoвaми. T.e. кoгдa пpeтeнзии кacaютcя твoeй peпyтaции - тeбe мoжнo вecти ceбя выcoкoмepнo ?

Ecть и чeтвepтый вapиaнт, пoчeмy oн тaк ceбя вeдeт - этo зaвиcть. Hиктo нe пpизнaл eгo тaлaнтa пocтepa, пoэтoмy oн peшил пaкocтить вceм ocтaльным


Does someone understand why this post was reported also? Is here some rule brake, which I do not see, or did KGBchampion have a bad day or something?

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October 29, 2019, 08:20:55 AM
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 #18

I unbanned it.

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October 29, 2019, 08:22:19 AM
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Dear moderators! I ask you to remove the ban from the user Zuzma. I think it is very important that such users remain on the forum. Usually, according to the content of the posts and the nature of the presentation, you can make a portrait of the user and have some idea of ​​the person you are talking to. So, Zuzma always seemed to me to be an honest, open person, thinking constructively and independently, a person without lies and hypocrisy. His posts have always been interesting, informative and useful. Check out his profile - he doesn't have many posts for more than 2 years on the forum. It can be seen that the person did not come to the forum for merit or earnings. He did not seek to create as many posts as possible. His goal on the forum is communication and mutual exchange of thoughts and information.
A detected case of plagiarism most likely occurred through negligence, or ignorance of the rules of the forum. Undoubtedly, the rules of the forum must be observed and ignorance of the rules does not exempt from liability. Nevertheless, I ask the moderators to resolve the issue individually, carefully assessing the user's profile and the nature of his activities in the past and present and make a fair decision, which in my understanding consists in unlocking the Zuzma user account.

I apologize for my English (I write using google translate)

P.S. Zuzma, I also shake your hand.
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October 29, 2019, 12:42:15 PM
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I unbanned it.

Dear moderator, thank you so much !!

 Best regards!!!
Zuzma
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