TippingPoint
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 905
Merit: 1000
|
|
April 07, 2014, 03:59:51 PM |
|
I am an European citizen and live in a country where I'm glad that access to guns is far more restricted and regulated than in America. What is the history of European countries invading and killing each other? What does this photo mean to you? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen
|
|
|
|
|
Bitcoin Magazine
|
|
April 07, 2014, 04:14:48 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video
|
i am here.
|
|
|
Ron~Popeil
|
|
April 07, 2014, 04:28:01 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Child porn featuring children with guns?
|
|
|
|
Wilikon (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
|
|
April 07, 2014, 04:44:35 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Which one would you have on you all the time?
|
|
|
|
Bitcoin Magazine
|
|
April 07, 2014, 05:00:43 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Which one would you have on you all the time? child porn. obviously. i want to have the ability to have anyone arrested i want
|
i am here.
|
|
|
Stuartuk
|
|
April 07, 2014, 05:11:43 PM |
|
Off topic:
Devil's advocate: Are guns really necessary? A lot of countries (mostly European ones) have much stricter rules on fire arms, and are doing just fine. Or have even better statistics on criminal, drugs, and accidents related incidents. Does the USA have such fundamental differences with other countries?
Yes. US street culture is simply very aggressive. Lots of US guys seem to think being tough and uncompromising is something admirable. When a tough and uncompromising character meets another tough and uncompromising character aggression is often a result. If there are weapons around they will be used and a gun is a very effective weapon. Also if a gun is used in a robbery or a house breaking then logically someone is more likely to be shot and because bullets do a lot of damage they will be more likely to die - as opposed to someone who has been beaten with fists. Fundamentally your violence problems are cultural. There are countries in Europe with high levels of gun ownership but they do not have the violence on their streets or gun deaths that you have in the US. Guns are not really the problem. BUT, while you still have an aggressive cultural character, having guns freely available does make your society far far more dangerous for everyone. You need to become less aggressive and take the guns off the criminals. There is your solution. So do you do that by opening another gun shop? Won't these guns actually end up in the hands of the criminals? Every single gun on the streets was originally made and sold legally wasn't it??
|
|
|
|
serenitys
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 126
Merit: 101
Be Here Now
|
|
April 07, 2014, 05:16:11 PM |
|
Men... hmph I'd fake like I'm totally cool with them being there and offer them a nice cup of tea... Laced with arsenic Ah, the woman's weapon of choice. POISON They don't like getting messy with death. Exactly! Just try getting bloody brain matter out of the carpets and drapes...it's a bitch.
|
You say "anti government" like that's a bad thing...
Unfortunate times will bring out the best in good people and the worst in bad people
|
|
|
Wilikon (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
|
|
April 07, 2014, 08:40:44 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Which one would you have on you all the time? child porn. obviously. i want to have the ability to have anyone arrested i want Possession and distributing child porn is a crime in any occasion. Not so with a gun on you. but if that is your personal taste well...
|
|
|
|
TheButterZone
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 3066
Merit: 1032
RIP Mommy
|
|
April 08, 2014, 02:18:31 AM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Child porn harms the children in the porn, full stop. Guns save innocent victims many times more than they are used in criminal aggression, where there is less "gun control" to punish only innocents for using them/keeping them/bearing them in self-defense. Reject all government statistics and non-debunked/retracted peer reviewed research showing this, and you incriminate yourself.
|
Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
|
|
|
nyuka
Member
Offline
Activity: 80
Merit: 10
|
|
April 08, 2014, 06:41:04 AM |
|
|
|
|
|
turk
Member
Offline
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
|
|
April 08, 2014, 12:52:09 PM |
|
I am an European citizen and live in a country where I'm glad that access to guns is far more restricted and regulated than in America. It's my personal opinion and I don't agree with American culture to allow relatively easy access to guns for virtually everyone. I don't blame you for this.It just feels scary for me.
It feels scary to you simply due the fact, my assumption here, that you have never been around guns or ever used them. Like many people my wife had never been around guns, and once she used one and became trained on how to properly protect herself using one she lost that fear. A gun is a tool, plain and simple. A gun is a great equalizer. In Louisville, Kentucky there have been roaming mobs of 200 + intercity teens running wild, and hurting all kinds of people. The only chance you would have in a situation like this would be a gun. Your only hope of keeping them away would be their fear of your gun. Several people recently have been injured by these mobs, and I for one will not be victim to this type of act. You cannot always rely on someone else to keep you safe, ie police, because they cannot be everywhere at once.
|
|
|
|
Bitcoin Magazine
|
|
April 08, 2014, 12:53:53 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Child porn harms the children in the porn, full stop. Guns save innocent victims many times more than they are used in criminal aggression, where there is less "gun control" to punish only innocents for using them/keeping them/bearing them in self-defense. Reject all government statistics and non-debunked/retracted peer reviewed research showing this, and you incriminate yourself. is there like a linear, quadratic chart of the harm done. cause i assumes it gets smaller the closer you are to 16
|
i am here.
|
|
|
vnvizow
|
|
April 08, 2014, 01:37:13 PM |
|
Now you can order your freedom, have it supersized, and pay with a decentralized currency? My logic doesn't comprehend
|
|
|
|
roslinpl
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
|
|
April 08, 2014, 03:14:26 PM |
|
I was thinking - why you need a gun if you do not want to shoot anyone? I will never buy a gun, just for fun it is too expensive for me ... But I do not live in US so maybe I have different way of thinking about guns.
|
|
|
|
FatMcNasty
Newbie
Offline
Activity: 4
Merit: 0
|
|
April 08, 2014, 03:27:33 PM |
|
Ok for all of you not familiar with the way fire arms are purchased in the US. It goes like this...
Customer comes in and picked out what he/she likes. If its a Semi auto Handgun or rifle (barrel over 16 inches or longer) or shotgun (over 18 inches and longer). A form 4473 is filled out, then a call into NICS ( which is a background check with the .gov either state or federal) After that depending on the state there is a waiting period or they are free to go. Some states require a ID card given to you by the local police.
IF the fire arm is a class 3 firearm (full auto/short barreled rifle under 16 inches/short barreled shotgun under 18 inches/suppressor) a 4473 is filled out except suppressor and a Form 4 is filled out (requires a chief Law enforcement Officer Signature) and a Tax of $200 is included and shipped off to the BATFE and you wait up to a year for them to approve it. Then and only then can you take it home..
I wonder who they are using for their processing, Im having a hell of a time finding one for my bullet making business.
|
|
|
|
TippingPoint
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 905
Merit: 1000
|
|
April 08, 2014, 04:06:19 PM Last edit: April 08, 2014, 06:30:54 PM by TippingPoint |
|
In states where any adult without a history of mental illness or criminal activity can carry a concealed handgun, people are very polite and respectful of each other.
|
|
|
|
Wilikon (OP)
Legendary
Offline
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1001
minds.com/Wilikon
|
|
April 08, 2014, 05:37:33 PM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Child porn harms the children in the porn, full stop. Guns save innocent victims many times more than they are used in criminal aggression, where there is less "gun control" to punish only innocents for using them/keeping them/bearing them in self-defense. Reject all government statistics and non-debunked/retracted peer reviewed research showing this, and you incriminate yourself. is there like a linear, quadratic chart of the harm done. cause i assumes it gets smaller the closer you are to 16 I love guns even though I own none. I can say that on a forum and the whole world can read it and no one will care a bit. Moms and dads can read my post and will not care. Now it's your turn. Can you say "I love child porn but I own none" on forum because you believe guns are worse? A " linear, quadratic chart of the harm done"? Do you mean data coming from actual child abusers in a lab somewhere sponsored by the FBI with consent children with their parents present? I can imagine a billion other arguments against guns, but child porn being better than owning a gun? I tell you this: I will make sure to read posts you'll make from now on. Very revealing of your psychological profile...
|
|
|
|
serenitys
Full Member
Offline
Activity: 126
Merit: 101
Be Here Now
|
|
April 09, 2014, 02:50:46 AM |
|
what is more dangerous? a gun or a child porn video Child porn harms the children in the porn, full stop. Guns save innocent victims many times more than they are used in criminal aggression, where there is less "gun control" to punish only innocents for using them/keeping them/bearing them in self-defense. Reject all government statistics and non-debunked/retracted peer reviewed research showing this, and you incriminate yourself. is there like a linear, quadratic chart of the harm done. cause i assumes it gets smaller the closer you are to 16 I love guns even though I own none. I can say that on a forum and the whole world can read it and no one will care a bit. Moms and dads can read my post and will not care. Now it's your turn. Can you say "I love child porn but I own none" on forum because you believe guns are worse? A " linear, quadratic chart of the harm done"? Do you mean data coming from actual child abusers in a lab somewhere sponsored by the FBI with consent children with their parents present? I can imagine a billion other arguments against guns, but child porn being better than owning a gun? I tell you this: I will make sure to read posts you'll make from now on. Very revealing of your psychological profile... The solution isn't to ban child porn or guns. Banning child porn and guns is NOT going to prevent children from being sexually abused or people being shot. The solution is to ban sexual abuse of children and shooting people. See? I'd far rather see churches banned than pictures of kiddie porn.
|
You say "anti government" like that's a bad thing...
Unfortunate times will bring out the best in good people and the worst in bad people
|
|
|
bountygiver
Member
Offline
Activity: 100
Merit: 10
|
|
April 09, 2014, 04:04:17 AM |
|
I was thinking - why you need a gun if you do not want to shoot anyone? I will never buy a gun, just for fun it is too expensive for me ... But I do not live in US so maybe I have different way of thinking about guns. why there are archery clubs when they are not hunting for animals
|
12dXW87Hhz3gUsXDDCB8rjJPsWdQzjwnm6
|
|
|
|