America's First Bitcoin Gun Store

[TheButterZone]

I was thinking - why you need a gun if you do not want to shoot anyone?

When someone's about to murder, rape, maim, etc... you, you'll want to shoot them, unless you have Stockholm Syndrome or masochistic, suicidal, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwebTX3rk3E

I've shot everyone I've ever wanted to shoot: ZERO.

[brioche]

I was thinking - why you need a gun if you do not want to shoot anyone?

I will never buy a gun, just for fun it is too expensive for me ...

But I do not live in US so maybe I have different way of thinking about guns.

why there are archery clubs when they are not hunting for animals

For sport perhaps?

I mean why have track and field when there's no dinosaurs to chase us down for supper...

[RenegadeMind]

.50 cal sniper, in case the burglars come in an apc.

Which ones? The cops, EPA, DHS, IRS, FDA... Or did you mean all of them?

[BlockChainLottery]

Thanks for the elaborate reply, serenitys. So USA citizens are mistrusting the government (arguably for good reasons), whereas Europeans have some more respect for theirs.

What is the history of European countries invading and killing each other?  

What does this photo mean to you?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

Times are changing, fortunately. Of course, the situation in the Ukraine is tense.

Stalin's Gun Control Methods Worked Remember Your History Or Be Doomed To Repeat It !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1aYxCzepI

That looks a little bit far fetched. Not all examples are good examples.

Yes. US street culture is simply very aggressive. Lots of US guys seem to think being tough and uncompromising is something admirable. When a tough and uncompromising character meets another tough and uncompromising character aggression is often a result. If there are weapons around they will be used and a gun is a very effective weapon. Also if a gun is used in a robbery or a house breaking then logically someone is more likely to be shot and because bullets do a lot of damage they will be more likely to die - as opposed to someone who has been beaten with fists.

Fundamentally your violence problems are cultural. There are countries in Europe with high levels of gun ownership but they do not have the violence on their streets or gun deaths that you have in the US. Guns are not really the problem. BUT, while you still have an aggressive cultural character, having guns freely available does make your society far far more dangerous for everyone.

You need to become less aggressive and take the guns off the criminals. There is your solution. So do you do that by opening another gun shop? Won't these guns actually end up in the hands of the criminals? Every single gun on the streets was originally made and sold legally wasn't it??

I like your way of looking at it, seems plausible. But if you could choose if in a safe country, would you rather life with or without easy access to guns?

[Rawted]

Glad to see this happening, but their prices are ridiculous. 5-10% MSRP markup at minimum on each weapon it seems. Accepting BTC should make things cheaper, not more expensive. You'd be better off watching slickguns.com for a deal and converting to fiat then.

[Wilikon]

Thanks for the elaborate reply, serenitys. So USA citizens are mistrusting the government (arguably for good reasons), whereas Europeans have some more respect for theirs.

What is the history of European countries invading and killing each other?  

What does this photo mean to you?



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Einsatzgruppen

Times are changing, fortunately. Of course, the situation in the Ukraine is tense.

Stalin's Gun Control Methods Worked Remember Your History Or Be Doomed To Repeat It !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dV1aYxCzepI

That looks a little bit far fetched. Not all examples are good examples.

Yes. US street culture is simply very aggressive. Lots of US guys seem to think being tough and uncompromising is something admirable. When a tough and uncompromising character meets another tough and uncompromising character aggression is often a result. If there are weapons around they will be used and a gun is a very effective weapon. Also if a gun is used in a robbery or a house breaking then logically someone is more likely to be shot and because bullets do a lot of damage they will be more likely to die - as opposed to someone who has been beaten with fists.

Fundamentally your violence problems are cultural. There are countries in Europe with high levels of gun ownership but they do not have the violence on their streets or gun deaths that you have in the US. Guns are not really the problem. BUT, while you still have an aggressive cultural character, having guns freely available does make your society far far more dangerous for everyone.

You need to become less aggressive and take the guns off the criminals. There is your solution. So do you do that by opening another gun shop? Won't these guns actually end up in the hands of the criminals? Every single gun on the streets was originally made and sold legally wasn't it??

I like your way of looking at it, seems plausible. But if you could choose if in a safe country, would you rather life with or without easy access to guns?

So USA citizens are mistrusting the government (arguably for good reasons), whereas Europeans have some more respect for theirs.

The Founding Fathers mistrusted their own government, the one they were about to create for generations. Most or all of them came from Europe, not even born on American soil. They knew their own past history on the old continent perfectly and were trying to create a new paradigm. No more empire, no more monarchy, no more tyranny. They knew they would not be alive forever and created a document that tells people they have the right to free speech (to bad mouth their own government not the right of Libel and lie about their neighbor), and the right to bear arm if that government transformed itself into a tyranny, like it did so many times before in Europe.

Europeans have zero respect for their own government as they believe government is a job creator, a right giver and nothing else. Europeans believes they are born with zero rights, only then their trusty government has a list of rights it gives to its citizen, the exact opposite in the USA.

So far millions upon millions of serfs and sheep all over Europe have been slaughtered by their own government, the one you believe was trustful. You still believe it is OK for families with "noble blood" to be on top of you forever while you keep your own middle class to be slaved forever. Why do you think the brightest among you leave your countries by the hundred of thousands every year to come and work in California?

Must be that trusty government of yours.

By the way what is the safest country in Europe and how many people can it absorb every year in its paradise?

[Beef Supreme]

Maybe, just maybe, those early colonists envied how those Injuns lived WITHOUT taxes, fiefdoms, royalty, and forced labor.  

Maybe they could appreciate a life where you are really free to hunt and fish everyday if you wish, a life where every man has the same inalienable rights as the next.  The rights given by creation.

I think the effect of the cultures encountered in the early days of settlement have been left out of American history books, but if you look at the constitution you will see evidence.

EDIT TO ADD:

Apologize to the OP, I just realized this is getting far off topic.

[Wilikon]

Maybe, just maybe, those early colonists envied how those Injuns lived WITHOUT taxes, fiefdoms, royalty, and forced labor.  

Maybe they could appreciate a life where you are really free to hunt and fish everyday if you wish, a life where every man has the same inalienable rights as the next.  The rights given by creation.

I think the effect of the cultures encountered in the early days of settlement have been left out of American history books, but if you look at the constitution you will see evidence.

EDIT TO ADD:

Apologize to the OP, I just realized this is getting far off topic.

Can't help it. Words like "gun" is like cryptonite for a lot of folks, very happy to pay taxes to the people who has the rights to kill them on sight, or only have the right to call the police and wait while their family members get rapped and killed. Even I go off track.

Bitcoin won't change all the sheep in the world.

[BlockChainLottery]

So USA citizens are mistrusting the government (arguably for good reasons), whereas Europeans have some more respect for theirs.

The Founding Fathers mistrusted their own government, the one they were about to create for generations. Most or all of them came from Europe, not even born on American soil. They knew their own past history on the old continent perfectly and were trying to create a new paradigm. No more empire, no more monarchy, no more tyranny. They knew they would not be alive forever and created a document that tells people they have the right to free speech (to bad mouth their own government not the right of Libel and lie about their neighbor), and the right to bear arm if that government transformed itself into a tyranny, like it did so many times before in Europe.

Europeans have zero respect for their own government as they believe government is a job creator, a right giver and nothing else. Europeans believes they are born with zero rights, only then their trusty government has a list of rights it gives to its citizen, the exact opposite in the USA.

So far millions upon millions of serfs and sheep all over Europe have been slaughtered by their own government, the one you believe was trustful. You still believe it is OK for families with "noble blood" to be on top of you forever while you keep your own middle class to be slaved forever. Why do you think the brightest among you leave your countries by the hundred of thousands every year to come and work in California?

Must be that trusty government of yours.

By the way what is the safest country in Europe and how many people can it absorb every year in its paradise?

I intended that sentence as a summary, and forgot the question mark so that people could make remarks on the statement. Didn't expect such aggressive stands. I believe that not one system is perfect, and it's always a search to find the best imperfect system. I often see the Scandinavian countries scoring high in lists about happiness, health care, distribution of income, etc. USA has higher per capita income, best universities, much more rights to defend themselves, etc. I'm fascinated by the way different policies turn out to be, and probably differ if applied to other countries.

I don't no that much about Europe, but the Scandinavian countries are probably good candidates as safest countries.

[drippx]

I noticed after reading some of these posts that alot of posters here watch too many movies and the news

[Wilikon]

So USA citizens are mistrusting the government (arguably for good reasons), whereas Europeans have some more respect for theirs.

The Founding Fathers mistrusted their own government, the one they were about to create for generations. Most or all of them came from Europe, not even born on American soil. They knew their own past history on the old continent perfectly and were trying to create a new paradigm. No more empire, no more monarchy, no more tyranny. They knew they would not be alive forever and created a document that tells people they have the right to free speech (to bad mouth their own government not the right of Libel and lie about their neighbor), and the right to bear arm if that government transformed itself into a tyranny, like it did so many times before in Europe.

Europeans have zero respect for their own government as they believe government is a job creator, a right giver and nothing else. Europeans believes they are born with zero rights, only then their trusty government has a list of rights it gives to its citizen, the exact opposite in the USA.

So far millions upon millions of serfs and sheep all over Europe have been slaughtered by their own government, the one you believe was trustful. You still believe it is OK for families with "noble blood" to be on top of you forever while you keep your own middle class to be slaved forever. Why do you think the brightest among you leave your countries by the hundred of thousands every year to come and work in California?

Must be that trusty government of yours.

By the way what is the safest country in Europe and how many people can it absorb every year in its paradise?

I intended that sentence as a summary, and forgot the question mark so that people could make remarks on the statement. Didn't expect such aggressive stands. I believe that not one system is perfect, and it's always a search to find the best imperfect system. I often see the Scandinavian countries scoring high in lists about happiness, health care, distribution of income, etc. USA has higher per capita income, best universities, much more rights to defend themselves, etc. I'm fascinated by the way different policies turn out to be, and probably differ if applied to other countries.

I don't no that much about Europe, but the Scandinavian countries are probably good candidates as safest countries.

I am sorry if my reply felt aggressive. The missing question mark did make a big difference trying to guess the vibe. I do get lots of feedback from European countries, from friends and not just from news reports.

The ideal of any system works if in theory if everyone is in it 100%. But for that to happen people would to stop to be people and be cloned, and even that would not guaranty the birth of individualism. If you follow a bit of politic you would notice the extreme right is getting stronger in Norway for example, after decades of socialism. That is the nature of the beast. The mass killing on that island and the quick jump of the socialists to blame the extreme right was not a card well played and so they lost the election. In Sweden they are calling anyone not a socialist a nazi. Not smart.

Anyway I usually have a smile when browsing the bitcointalk forum, no matter the price of bitcoin.