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October 30, 2019, 09:49:20 AM
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NOTE !!!! I WILL DELETE ANY POST CONTAINING THE NAME OR A LINK TO A BOOKIE OR CASINO WEBSITE. THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR ADVERTISING !!! 

OK you deleted my post because I mentioned some casinos but I did not mean to advertise them. I use them as example about provably fair slot game where you says that all slot games are pre-programmed while in fact it is not true.
I want to know your opinion about those provably fair slot game, at least I want to inform you about it if you did not know about it. Will you still say that all slot games are pre-programmed?
I also want to know more about where did you get the number of 80-20% in favor of bookies for the pre-programmed slots? Do you have valid evidences that all of them are really pre-programmed with 80-20% or it is just like an assumption?

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October 30, 2019, 10:43:28 AM
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I would like to add "know you limits" as one more point where most newbie gamblers slip through while seeing huge win from other players.

Easy. Make your bankroll be your limit.

This means, depositing only what you can afford to lose. I know, everyone says it but nobody really knows what this means. They think they can deposit $100 and afford to lose 20 so they say ok if i lose 20, I will withdraw $80.

It never happens. People will play til they win or they bust.

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October 30, 2019, 11:03:23 AM
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I want to know your opinion about those provably fair slot game, at least I want to inform you about it if you did not know about it. Will you still say that all slot games are pre-programmed? I also want to know more about where did you get the number of 80-20% in favor of bookies for the pre-programmed slots? Do you have valid evidences that all of them are really pre-programmed with 80-20% or it is just like an assumption?

All slot machines are pre-programmed using PAR or Hold percentage software. Mathematical algorithm, which sets up the outcome of the slot machine. You can set up any percentage you want. 50/50, 30/70, 80/20 e.t.c... New casinos are starting with 80/20 in gamblers favor, to attract more customers, but after some time they are readjusting them to 20/80 in casino favor. House always wins!

There is no strategy that will guarantee you profits in gambling. As a former professional gambler I was doing only sports betting, because if the match is not fixed, there is no way for a bookie to adjust anything. (Match fixing happens a lot in low ranked championships and tournaments)  

Most corrupted leagues and tournaments:  

1. All post soviet countries championships. (Soccer/Basketball)

2. All African championships. (Soccer/Basketball)

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October 30, 2019, 11:34:51 AM
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I used to gamble a lot starting from 2005. I will share some useful tips for a newbie gamblers.

1. Do not deposit anything, before your account is not fully verified. Because any bookie will accept your bet without verifying your account, but if you win and request a withdrawal, they will refuse and ask you for verification. You might not pass it for a lot of reasons, like bettors from your country are not allowed to use that bookie, or the documents provided by you are not acceptable e.t.c...
this happens to a friend and this is sucks because it seems that they are trapping gamblers specially those newbie and have no idea about how this scammers work

2. Do not bet a big amount of money, because if you will win, bookie will use all tricks to not pay you big amount of winning. Most common reasons you will hear are multi accounting, fraudulent activity, incorrect bets, e.t.c.. They will simply block your account and confiscate all your money. In some cases bookie might return only your bet amount and refuse to pay winnings.

3. Do not be fooled by some kinds of "Super Promotions" like "Place multi bet that will include not less that 4 positions with minimal odd 1.4 and if only one position loose we will return you the half amount of the bet" Multiply bets gives a big advantage to bookmaker because the possibility of win in case of 4 multi bets is equal to 20% or even less. Also avoid any kind of bonuses, because if you will accept them, you will find out that 4 rollovers bets are required to get 100% of offered bonus. Any promotion or bonuses offered by bookmakers are nothing but a way to force you loose more of your money.
lucky that i only played with manual betting this makes me feel the whole process of games
4. Avoid playing slots, because all slot games are pre-programmed to 80/20% in the bookies favor.
is this true?but i love playing slots

7. Always play only for fun. Bet only what you can afford to lose.

this is the perfect advice ,and also control our emotions

thanks for this tips Mate it helps a lot
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October 30, 2019, 01:56:35 PM
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More importantly read their terms and condition which will be skipped by 99.999% people while signing up. Grin
Well, this is very important even though not in a gambling site. All stated by OP has a good point and that was true. You should know this stuff once you are a gambler. Not just you are a good gambler but when it comes to your self you can perfectly managing on it.
OP, can you add "the time they will spend in gambling". I believed that the more time you have been spent in gambling the more chances of losses.
Isnt always the case because you can lose up bigtime even on short time depending on what you do play and the amount you do able to risk on each bet.

Reading up terms and condition is one of the most common mistake.People or player do violate something and when they got blocked they do whine and say
the site is scam.
Exactly they will come up with a story for their loss and will say they freezed funds for no reason but on most cases they may violated their terms with or without his knowledge for that reading their TOS is important and the time spend also can be a factor not only associated with the funds losing or winning but they are doing something for very long time which could be called as addiction.









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October 30, 2019, 05:42:56 PM
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More importantly read their terms and condition which will be skipped by 99.999% people while signing up. Grin
Well, this is very important even though not in a gambling site. All stated by OP has a good point and that was true. You should know this stuff once you are a gambler. Not just you are a good gambler but when it comes to your self you can perfectly managing on it.
OP, can you add "the time they will spend in gambling". I believed that the more time you have been spent in gambling the more chances of losses.
Isnt always the case because you can lose up bigtime even on short time depending on what you do play and the amount you do able to risk on each bet.

Reading up terms and condition is one of the most common mistake.People or player do violate something and when they got blocked they do whine and say
the site is scam.
Exactly they will come up with a story for their loss and will say they freezed funds for no reason but on most cases they may violated their terms with or without his knowledge for that reading their TOS is important and the time spend also can be a factor not only associated with the funds losing or winning but they are doing something for very long time which could be called as addiction.
^ Both of you are right, but 99% sure most gamblers did not read the TOS before depositing their fund. Even me, usually the FAQ is easy to summarize all your queries and concern. Reading 1-2 pages of TOS is kinda wasting of time, the first place to go is FAQ. Nevertheless, OP has a great tip and not just only for newbies there are also people did not know this tip yet. Knowing the rules and regulations from the gambling site will avoid you from possible trouble in the future.
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October 30, 2019, 07:17:51 PM
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Actually, I think I have to disagree with rule number 5. Although most casino bonuses are actually intended to make you lose money in the long run, it's actually possible to benefit from these if you're careful.

There is a concept known as matched betting, whereby you basically accept promotions on multiple different websites in such a way that it's literally impossible to lose money. If this promotion arbitrage is possible, then it's worth taking up the offers.
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February 05, 2020, 12:30:31 PM
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Actually, I think I have to disagree with rule number 5. Although most casino bonuses are actually intended to make you lose money in the long run, it's actually possible to benefit from these if you're careful.

There is a concept known as matched betting, whereby you basically accept promotions on multiple different websites in such a way that it's literally impossible to lose money. If this promotion arbitrage is possible, then it's worth taking up the offers.
for those interested in knowing more about matched betting, here's an explanation:
https://www.profitaccumulator.co.uk/what-is-matched-betting/

there's way more on the website

take into accoutn that they'll offer to register with them (and I earn nothing with it, not a refferal)
but they're producing articles explaning the idea better so I thought it was worth to share here.

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February 05, 2020, 01:31:04 PM
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I used to gamble a lot starting from 2005. I will share some useful tips for a newbie gamblers.
1. Do not deposit anything, before your account is not fully verified. Because any bookie will accept your bet without verifying your account, but if you win and request a withdrawal, they will refuse and ask you for verification. You might not pass it for a lot of reasons, like bettors from your country are not allowed to use that bookie, or the documents provided by you are not acceptable e.t.c...
I experienced this already ! and guys I think you should follow this one, you need to verify your account first, pass all the requirements especially that ID Card that is needed to verify youself, I forgot to do this one then guess what happen, I lose my fund ,it is good that that is only a small amount because I did not pass that verification process, they did not acknowledge my ID, I need to get passport which I do not have so that I could withdraw my winnings, it is a lesson to me. I have a passport now by the way.

7. Always play only for fun. Bet only what you can afford to lose.
this is the perfect advice ,and also control our emotions

thanks for this tips Mate it helps a lot
Yes ! just enjoy playing it , it will be fun, you will start to learn many strategies, starting to have friends online and you will start to think that gambling is not bad, it is not only for having a lot of money , but it is also for making fun.

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February 05, 2020, 02:28:36 PM
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I used to gamble a lot starting from 2005. I will share some useful tips for a newbie gamblers.
1. Do not deposit anything, before your account is not fully verified. Because any bookie will accept your bet without verifying your account, but if you win and request a withdrawal, they will refuse and ask you for verification. You might not pass it for a lot of reasons, like bettors from your country are not allowed to use that bookie, or the documents provided by you are not acceptable e.t.c...
I experienced this already ! and guys I think you should follow this one, you need to verify your account first, pass all the requirements especially that ID Card that is needed to verify youself, I forgot to do this one then guess what happen, I lose my fund ,it is good that that is only a small amount because I did not pass that verification process, they did not acknowledge my ID, I need to get passport which I do not have so that I could withdraw my winnings, it is a lesson to me. I have a passport now by the way.

7. Always play only for fun. Bet only what you can afford to lose.
this is the perfect advice ,and also control our emotions

thanks for this tips Mate it helps a lot
Yes ! just enjoy playing it , it will be fun, you will start to learn many strategies, starting to have friends online and you will start to think that gambling is not bad, it is not only for having a lot of money , but it is also for making fun.


Today there are a lot of people want to play gambling games some of the reason of the people they are just seeking fun and excitement gambling can bring to them. Still, there are a lot of things before we consider. According to the statement above always make sure that you are fully verified before making any transactions because today they are now supporting only those accounts that has a verified information to make sure there is no problem about the kyc or the legit information of the users or players also they want to have only legit players to avoid tricking their platforms and find some bugs and errors and abuse this to earn a lot of income. Next is always know what is the best game suitable for you because it helps a lot to a player to obtain more because they are comfortable to play without any pressure because they know the mechanics. Lastly is always enjoy the game remember we play gambling even this is risky that can cause only to lose or to earn profit but the most important is you satisfied your self.

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February 05, 2020, 02:40:49 PM
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First of all resurrecting a dormant thread without any important information being added is not allowed by the forum rules.Since this thread is resurrected let me tell you that those are nice tips but the major sport betting providers will not care if you win a lot or not as you are only a winner against a lot of other people losing.They will use these big payouts to promote themselves even further by sharing them.

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February 05, 2020, 03:39:48 PM
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I used to gamble a lot starting from 2005. I will share some useful tips for a newbie gamblers.
1. Do not deposit anything, before your account is not fully verified. Because any bookie will accept your bet without verifying your account, but if you win and request a withdrawal, they will refuse and ask you for verification. You might not pass it for a lot of reasons, like bettors from your country are not allowed to use that bookie, or the documents provided by you are not acceptable e.t.c...
I experienced this already ! and guys I think you should follow this one, you need to verify your account first, pass all the requirements especially that ID Card that is needed to verify youself, I forgot to do this one then guess what happen, I lose my fund ,it is good that that is only a small amount because I did not pass that verification process, they did not acknowledge my ID, I need to get passport which I do not have so that I could withdraw my winnings, it is a lesson to me. I have a passport now by the way.

7. Always play only for fun. Bet only what you can afford to lose.
this is the perfect advice ,and also control our emotions

thanks for this tips Mate it helps a lot
Yes ! just enjoy playing it , it will be fun, you will start to learn many strategies, starting to have friends online and you will start to think that gambling is not bad, it is not only for having a lot of money , but it is also for making fun.


Today there are a lot of people want to play gambling games some of the reason of the people they are just seeking fun and excitement gambling can bring to them. Still, there are a lot of things before we consider. According to the statement above always make sure that you are fully verified before making any transactions because today they are now supporting only those accounts that has a verified information to make sure there is no problem about the kyc or the legit information of the users or players also they want to have only legit players to avoid tricking their platforms and find some bugs and errors and abuse this to earn a lot of income. Next is always know what is the best game suitable for you because it helps a lot to a player to obtain more because they are comfortable to play without any pressure because they know the mechanics. Lastly is always enjoy the game remember we play gambling even this is risky that can cause only to lose or to earn profit but the most important is you satisfied your self.
Indeed. Just always avoid promotions that are too good to be true and always ask opinions and suggestions to other people who have been playing in online gambling for a long time, before trying to gamble in a certain online gambling site for you to know if it is legit. KYC is always the main problem in verifying an account in a online gambling site, so to make sure if it is safe is just to check it. Lastly, play for entertainment or for fun because gambling is not a way to earn good profit.



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February 05, 2020, 05:30:18 PM
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I used to gamble a lot starting from 2005. I will share some useful tips for a newbie gamblers.

1. Do not deposit anything, before your account is not fully verified. Because any bookie will accept your bet without verifying your account, but if you win and request a withdrawal, they will refuse and ask you for verification. You might not pass it for a lot of reasons, like bettors from your country are not allowed to use that bookie, or the documents provided by you are not acceptable e.t.c...


Great tip there, a huge number of people get caught out by this.

However, it should be noted that there are also a huge number of platforms that simply don't require verification. It's best to stick with these, rather than potentially deal with the KYC hassle later.


4. Avoid playing slots, because all slot games are pre-programmed to 80/20% in the bookies favor.


This is more about actually doing some background research before playing any game.

Everybody should research what the house edge is before playing any game. Anything above 5% is just a complete joke that should be avoided.

If you can't find out the information, ask customer support as they'll probably know.
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February 05, 2020, 08:42:45 PM
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snip

This is more about actually doing some background research before playing any game.

Everybody should research what the house edge is before playing any game. Anything above 5% is just a complete joke that should be avoided.

If you can't find out the information, ask customer support as they'll probably know.

Reading terms & conditions of websites, especially of those on which you're going to deposit amounts of money or to which you're about to send your personal documents, is a must.

But we all know it's way easier to check the little "I agree..." box and just blindly sign up.

Background research will not help with slots AFAIK. If a machine is rigged, nobody will tell you the truth. Otherwise, knowing you have a 80/20 chance in THEIR favor, way less people would play them.
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February 05, 2020, 10:16:13 PM
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#7 is always right. Same as with investing on cryptocurrencies, which is also quite of a gamble because of volaility.

A lot of these online casinos have sneaky "terms and conditions" as they call it, that would hinder you from withdrawing your money once you won in their platform. And if you're not careful enough to read and understand these messages, you'll have nothing against them since you "agreed" on their misleading terms. We also can't do pretty much anything about it since they are not regulated that much, and predatpry acts like these are always done.



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February 06, 2020, 09:02:44 AM
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Interesting.
I regards to number one, I guess that is one of reasons (or the reason) why people's account get locked or something when they win huge amounts on gambling sites? And that's probably due to the kyc limits placed on withdrawal of huge wins?

Betting on reputable betting sites or using smart contract based betting sites should be some of the ways one can prevent issues in number two from occurring
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February 06, 2020, 09:56:31 AM
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#7 is always right. Same as with investing on cryptocurrencies, which is also quite of a gamble because of volaility.
actually all the tips are great but this one is the most accurate because aside from being safe in risking much money also we can save more time because of limiting our expenses in Gambling and also to enjoy the game.
A lot of these online casinos have sneaky "terms and conditions" as they call it, that would hinder you from withdrawing your money once you won in their platform. And if you're not careful enough to read and understand these messages, you'll have nothing against them since you "agreed" on their misleading terms. We also can't do pretty much anything about it since they are not regulated that much, and predatpry acts like these are always done.
well that is why we must be obedient in using Gambling platform,only choose those legit and always obey the rules because in this part mostly the issue comes out,either we are being freezed because of breaking rules or using the scam sites.

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Always play fur fun?? I don't think I would do that, playing for fun is just like playing not doing it seriously because it looks like for fun means you are just spending your money in gambling, not that you are investing your money.

Well, this is for newbies but not all newbies does only play for fun, some are also ambitious, they love to make some experiment.

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Always play fur fun?? I don't think I would do that, playing for fun is just like playing not doing it seriously because it looks like for fun means you are just spending your money in gambling, not that you are investing your money.
but that is what we must do mate for us to keep safer when we are in gambling,just like when we are going to Teampark right?we are paying in each ride to have fun right?and we also paying when we are going to movie houses so why not just spend money to have fun in gambling?
Well, this is for newbies but not all newbies does only play for fun, some are also ambitious, they love to make some experiment.
when they are newbie actually they don't really have anything in mind but to experience the gambling and to also experience winning.

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February 07, 2020, 09:38:48 AM
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Well, the best tip for those who have never gambled - keep doing so. Smiley
You may be a person with strong will, but when it comes to playing most of the people can't control themselves and it's not their fault, it is just human's brain chemistry.
I always say my friends that you go to casino to play, not to win.

Yes Gambling Addiction is a big problem. There are a lot of gamble treatment centers, but I highly doubt that it is treatable.


It is treatable, unless the patient decided to not participate in his medication, without his inner will to be cured, doctors and psychiatrist can't do a single thing for their good. It is always going to be a long process before an addicted person would be fully healed, so his love ones should also need some patient to give him hope to himself, emotional support is the best thing that anyone could ever give to someone who is emotionally and mentally damaged.

Nice tips buddy, definitely yes most of of these slot games are pre-programmed but not all. Its better to play on sports betting gambling website it is fair and square no one can control the outcome and cannot be programmed but I'm not discouraging anyone not to play those I played it myself just for fun.

I agree, the problem is that we have different level of excitement and fun that we wanted to feel when we are playing gambling, that is why most gamblers choose the most riskiest game to satisfy themselves on what they are looking for.

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