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October 30, 2019, 10:00:24 AM |
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I think these expert traders are hiding their losses just like you said. First of all because as "experts" they need to live up to a professional reputation wherein their trades are good and profitable, would you take trading advice from someone who is broke? No.
If anything I wouldn't be surprised if in reality ALL experts have hidden losses that they never disclose to the public.
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October 30, 2019, 11:10:33 AM |
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I'm pretty sure they will hide it, or will tell stories when they have success like "this also needs a struggle" or "at first I was also having a hard time". in trading, losing is not a secret anymore, even professional traders will experience difficulties when prices become unstable. it's like successful people have their sad stories, but we only know them when they have success. trading is something that is uncertain, losing or winning it often happens.
Some so-called fraudulent experts who sells trading signals do hide their loses rather displayed or possibly Photoshopped exorbitant profits to deceive unsuspecting new traders of course a newbie trader will easily fall for this tricks however their are some credible and trusted experts traders that shows their losses having managed their trades with a perfect money management and probably trading with a strategy that has a good reward to risk ratio.
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October 30, 2019, 11:17:27 AM |
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They always show their wins because they want to motivate the new traders. Sometimes they're lost but they can maintain their loss and their profits must be bigger than their loss. Also some crypto influencer hide their losses because they want the people who see their portofolio buy the same coins like theirs and the influencers hope the price won't get down because their followers buying the same coins. but at last, no traders that always win, they must be experienced some losses
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October 30, 2019, 11:59:00 AM |
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It's a normal thing. people always show their success rather than failure, because we don't want to see the losses, but we don't realize that behind every success, it has a lot of abortive effort, but those behind story doesn't attract people, so people always tell their story of success. another thing is that most of the writings from a trader is just like a motivational or inspiring story so they don't add their back end thing with writing, This is not fair at all. when you write about something then you have to publish all short of positive and negative matters, I think this will help to decide a person either trading or something else.
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October 30, 2019, 12:09:25 PM |
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I think these expert traders are hiding their losses just like you said. First of all because as "experts" they need to live up to a professional reputation wherein their trades are good and profitable, would you take trading advice from someone who is broke? No.
If anything I wouldn't be surprised if in reality ALL experts have hidden losses that they never disclose to the public.
Yes clearly the main goal maybe is to build a reputation, so many people will assume that "he" never suffered the slightest loss. no problem, i admit it is normal thing. on the other hand it's good, because the goal is to motivate newbie traders to not be pessimistic when trading for the first time, and can learn how to analyze the right way, which he has given to everyone. he don't want that newbie trader follow the wrong way.
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October 30, 2019, 12:18:08 PM |
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Never lose? impossible! Even gods can make mistakes. I think most expert traders hide their mistakes for reputation purposes. Try to imagine, if an expert trader shows the amount of their loss, are you still interested to investing in it? I'm sure no one will be interested in partnering or investing with him, even just to follow in his footsteps.
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October 30, 2019, 12:41:50 PM |
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No, why would they have any need to hide their losses? If you lose a small percentage on a trade, then just sell it off and continue trading. You'll more than likely make it all back from the very next trade. Now, if they're trying to sell a subscription to their picks or something, there's a possibility they may be altering their trading history or something. But, if they're truly "experts" then they have no reason to hide any trades. Everyone takes a small loss every now and then. You just go with it and move on.
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October 30, 2019, 01:04:25 PM |
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I never following trading journal from expert traders so i never know if they really hide their losses or not but in my view why they have to shy about this and i think they should be proud for theirself that after make stupid decissions then they will became great again and learn from their mistaken and i think if they wrote it through their journal then it could be good stories that they able to rise up their mentally from zero to hero
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October 30, 2019, 01:14:45 PM |
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I never following trading journal from expert traders so i never know if they really hide their losses or not but in my view why they have to shy about this and i think they should be proud for theirself that after make stupid decissions then they will became great again and learn from their mistaken and i think if they wrote it through their journal then it could be good stories that they able to rise up their mentally from zero to hero
Indeed, because it makes them realize a lot of things well actually sometimes a mistake isn't bad particularly when you have learn something from it. It makes them stronger in terms of understanding the power of analyzing things before making decisions. They just have to accept it and use that experience to avoid doing the same mistake, we don't have to underestimate or judge them because were all making mistakes and it depends on us how we will handle it. You don't have to pretend that everything was okay when eventually its not because its like you are making yourself a fool.
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October 30, 2019, 01:26:30 PM |
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They are not hiding their losses, and yes, even professional traders do stupid things, we're not A.I that could constantly do a thing without any changes at all in a period of time, we get tired, and making mistakes because of fatigue in our brain due to over work. Traders only show their wins (mostly) because that is what more important, to encourage us by showing their achievements in Trading. Where are their big loses at?
It is their success, that is where their losses at ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 30, 2019, 01:42:43 PM |
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I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?
there are so many traders who hide their losses moreover it is a famous trader, of course they want to look great, if it shows a loss it will create a bad image for its name, actually this is a natural problem because nothing is perfect and there is no analysis that is 100% accurate.
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October 30, 2019, 04:09:58 PM |
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I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?
there are so many traders who hide their losses moreover it is a famous trader, of course they want to look great, if it shows a loss it will create a bad image for its name, actually this is a natural problem because nothing is perfect and there is no analysis that is 100% accurate. I don't see anything wrong with it, its normal to every person that what we want other people to see from us is only the great one. So, for me it's okay, for as long as we will not just rely on them and for their signals. Always remember that not everyday is a winning in trading, sometimes we suffer losses too and it's okay, just keep going and move forward.
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October 30, 2019, 05:09:30 PM |
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This is commonly done by a pro trading analysis, they hide losses because they also want to get praise and trust towards their followers. You will often see this in the VIP signal group too. A pro traders wants their followers trust and loyalty, not to want their followers to doubt him.
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October 30, 2019, 05:24:12 PM |
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I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?
there are so many traders who hide their losses moreover it is a famous trader, of course they want to look great, if it shows a loss it will create a bad image for its name, actually this is a natural problem because nothing is perfect and there is no analysis that is 100% accurate. I don't see anything wrong with it, its normal to every person that what we want other people to see from us is only the great one. So, for me it's okay, for as long as we will not just rely on them and for their signals. Always remember that not everyday is a winning in trading, sometimes we suffer losses too and it's okay, just keep going and move forward. Maybe that is ok from human nature point of view but it's not ok from professional side and relation towards crypto community. Some crypto.users might get the opinion that trading brings only profit and if you even suffer some loss you will recover in no time. That is the wrong picture for unexperienced traders that often fall for this and think it's problem in them if they can't be successful as those professional traders they read about.
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October 30, 2019, 05:24:47 PM |
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I think most "expert" traders, not the ones that claim they are expert traders but people with real profits over course of years, do not feel the need to show you anything, not their losses not their profits. After all, if you are a trader that makes money constantly then why would you want approval from other people, you have the money, you have the profits, you have a source of income, what can you get from some people reading about your wins or losses that can gain you anything?
In the end this is a business, some people do it as a hobby and I can understand that but if you are an expert trader then you are doing this for business, if its not your income and you are working somewhere else and do trading at night then you are not expert I can guarantee you that.
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October 30, 2019, 05:28:22 PM |
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Of course they will not going to show their losses people and his/her followers won't believe even though they know how their mentor earns a lot. Well that's how life, if you are the coach or being a trading mentor for them would you show your losses to your followers. Another thing is if they earn 5-10 wins in a row with huge amount people will call him Pro trader it is so easy to fool people.
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October 30, 2019, 06:15:30 PM |
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I notice that some experts doing online trading journals just show you all their wins, and they hide their loses and anything stupid they did to lose money. What traders out there sharing their daily trades are The Real McCoy? I am sure that ever super traders make super stupid mistakes, then they just do not want people to think they did anything stupid. Where are their big loses at? Why do they only show their wins?
Okay lets make it straight and i dont make any comments about that Real McCoy. Going on topic where i do somehow agree that majority of good traders do hide up their losses, we cant say they are doing it intentionally or just simply ignoring those losses as long they are making greens and profits.As a trader you would surely be proud when you do make winning trades constantly or on bigger chances.
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October 30, 2019, 06:19:59 PM |
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I think these expert traders are hiding their losses just like you said. First of all because as "experts" they need to live up to a professional reputation wherein their trades are good and profitable, would you take trading advice from someone who is broke? No.
If anything I wouldn't be surprised if in reality ALL experts have hidden losses that they never disclose to the public.
One thing for sure, if they are into the business like selling their knowledge or giving advised for sure they wanted to have a good reputation and never wanted to reveal any loses that they've got. It's important for them to stay clean so the business will go further. But in case, this so-called experts are trying to hide from reality it's best not to believe right away and investigate everything.
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Absolutely.
To any newbies reading this, when you see signals groups boasting about their wins, you should also note that they almost certainly have a huge number of losses that are simply not shown.
If you actually track their calls, you'll find that they will only call back to signals that were proven correct, while all their duds are never mentioned again. They know that nobody is going to go through the effort and actually check, since everybody is blinded by the so-called profits.
Stay away from 'expert' traders for the most part, they are almost all fraudsters. Nobody would give away the keys to their kingdom for just a few bucks.
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October 30, 2019, 07:16:23 PM |
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Absolutely.
To any newbies reading this, when you see signals groups boasting about their wins, you should also note that they almost certainly have a huge number of losses that are simply not shown.
If you actually track their calls, you'll find that they will only call back to signals that were proven correct, while all their duds are never mentioned again. They know that nobody is going to go through the effort and actually check, since everybody is blinded by the so-called profits.
Stay away from 'expert' traders for the most part, they are almost all fraudsters. Nobody would give away the keys to their kingdom for just a few bucks.
Thanks for the advice. I've had my fair share of dealings with the so called "expert traders". As a matter of fact, I've run into one recently that makes a monthly report of a cumulative profit of about 450-600%. The truth is, they post signals when the token is already pumping. Most times they leave their unsuspecting users catching a knife. Another place I'll will advise newbies to avoid like a plague is Crypto Twitter. It's a place where everyone is a PRO trader.
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