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November 03, 2019, 12:33:39 AM
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the main problem with the PVP platforms like this - lack of gamblers
without a faucet or constant promotions and giveaways for the newbies to try the platform , it is going to look deserted
this is a cross between binary option and PVP betting , the concept is allright , but 5% HE is definitely not attractive for me
the majority of the gamblers are spoilt by 0.8-1% house edges and fast and simple dice games that are resolved instantly without the need to wait for your bet to get accepted
I guess it is too early to tell, lets return and see the progress in a month , with the proper marketing this project could be a relative success

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November 03, 2019, 05:40:20 AM
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I'm interested to look into your site because of the "wagering contest" on this thread's title. I thought it is something great because a new site usually offers something attractive but I was wrong as your wagering contest is not attractive since the prizes depends on how much is being wagered by players. I would say that it is like a cashback instead of wagering contest. I think you need to offer fixed prize from your own pocket for the wagering contest, at least as a promotion for your launch so users will be more interested to grab the prize by playing as much as possible.

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November 03, 2019, 06:27:02 AM
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Thank you guys for your comments and questions! 

How are you going to ensure that the refferal program is not going to be manipulated by cheats since there won't be any KYC implemented?
What will stop someone from creating multiple accounts and the use them to earn rewards from the referring account?

We are, does not require bettors to provide Know-Your-Customer details or approvals of any kind. So we are can not check referral manipulation

Hello sir, im just wondering why theres so many declined bet on all betting history? is that means they lose on thier predictions or something
just weird, almost all betting history on website are status Declined

Hello, if you made a bet, but none of the users placed at least one bet against yours, or if the Base and Last prices coincide, such a current betting round is considered incomplete and the funds are returned to account. Just need more bettors

Contest bonus promotion is awful

We are working hard to add daily streak and update our wagering contest page

Betting?

I think it's just like an options trading, you just need to put your bet and choice where the price it's going will be "Up or "Down with some interval times. The difference they make a pool for the prize, it's better using an option platform trading you can get profit with around 75-85% from the amount you bet also you also get a feature tools trading to predict the price.

It's kinda scared for me, if they manipulated the movement/graphic price of bitcoin on their platform. However you should make a "proof of fairness" for your betting history, since everyone don't knows how to verify the fairness of the prize movement on your platform.

Binance BTC/USDT quotes the same as on Betller. you can check




So your price are based on Binance BTC/USDT pair, this kind of games are unique I suggest its better to add deposite bonus on your site to attract more player, I like the design of your site but I experienced some delay on priceupon checking the current price on binance.

Yeah, I also see this but I think the website already looks great a lot of information was missing on the website. Also, it looks like a copy from a different website design I've seen this kind of color palette in many site and the name sounds like bitsler.  But I'm surprised that the website was not laggy at all I think anybody could work with this registration was very smooth but need a lot more security measures like KYC in all of the users so that they could not use multiple account. In my opinion, the bet was still fair but it was not yet optimized.

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November 03, 2019, 09:45:01 AM
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the main problem with the PVP platforms like this - lack of gamblers
without a faucet or constant promotions and giveaways for the newbies to try the platform , it is going to look deserted
this is a cross between binary option and PVP betting , the concept is allright , but 5% HE is definitely not attractive for me
the majority of the gamblers are spoilt by 0.8-1% house edges and fast and simple dice games that are resolved instantly without the need to wait for your bet to get accepted
I guess it is too early to tell, lets return and see the progress in a month , with the proper marketing this project could be a relative success
Brand New Website: You cant hope to much they gain a lot of players with a short running site, they need to handle a marketing campaign like Contes, Paid Signature BTC, Content Review (Youtuber or Article). They need to focus on the platform first before doing a marketing strategy since they still have a problem they need to finish first before a lot user play on the platform.

I know a 5% house edge was pretty high if we compare with other gambling platforms, but you also can get all of the pool with only small bets. Example a few users put a bet  and predict the price will "Down" total pot on "Down" bet is 0.003 BTC, none all of the player choice "Up" you can get good odds because of that just only put 0.0001 BTC to "Up" option you can get all of them 0.003 BTC if your prediction price was right. From 0.0001 to win 0.003 BTC its more than 1000% profit from your initial bet and they only take 5% from your winning.



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November 03, 2019, 12:15:18 PM
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I know a 5% house edge was pretty high if we compare with other gambling platforms, but you also can get all of the pool with only small bets. Example a few users put a bet  and predict the price will "Down" total pot on "Down" bet is 0.003 BTC, none all of the player choice "Up" you can get good odds because of that just only put 0.0001 BTC to "Up" option you can get all of them 0.003 BTC if your prediction price was right. From 0.0001 to win 0.003 BTC its more than 1000% profit from your initial bet and they only take 5% from your winning.
You have a point there. I do agree that comparing the house edge of regular gambling sites and that of the P2P sites is not correct due to the different rules and criteria involved, but I did not know that it was possible to win that much with a small bet in these sites.

Will definitely be taking a closer look at these sites going forward though more players are a necessity which is why these sites need to advertise more heavily(Sig campaigns etc) as you stated.

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November 03, 2019, 12:44:55 PM
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You have a point there. I do agree that comparing the house edge of regular gambling sites and that of the P2P sites is not correct due to the different rules and criteria involved, but I did not know that it was possible to win that much with a small bet in these sites.
Your percentage winning all depend how much you put the money on the poll also how many players join the bet, i know these because i already used their platform using a fund promotion. Since there still don't have a huge player at the platform, you can be winning all the pots if the bet option only your self to bet on that option. I also got lucky, win 20k sat with only 10k sat since only my bet on that option and that 2 players lose a bet with me.

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I know a 5% house edge was pretty high if we compare with other gambling platforms, but you also can get all of the pool with only small bets. Example a few users put a bet  and predict the price will "Down" total pot on "Down" bet is 0.003 BTC, none all of the player choice "Up" you can get good odds because of that just only put 0.0001 BTC to "Up" option you can get all of them 0.003 BTC if your prediction price was right. From 0.0001 to win 0.003 BTC its more than 1000% profit from your initial bet and they only take 5% from your winning.
You have a point there. I do agree that comparing the house edge of regular gambling sites and that of the P2P sites is not correct due to the different rules and criteria involved, but I did not know that it was possible to win that much with a small bet in these sites.

Will definitely be taking a closer look at these sites going forward though more players are a necessity which is why these sites need to advertise more heavily(Sig campaigns etc) as you stated.

it is perfectly correct , the comparison is off since the same can be applied to dice:
you can bet 0.0001 to win 0.003 btc , all you have to do is risk it with a 30x multiplier and you will have a 1% HE
with the PVP site you risk same 10k satoshi to get 300k , the chances of you hitting that should be around 3.33% but you will pay a 5% HE instead
as for the marketing , I completely agree ,this is what makes or breaks the new sites
a badly chosen or run campaign could hamper the progress or even close the site , the gamblers are choosy and are not going to simply flock to a new site to try it out
signature campaign is a very expensive but effective way to kickstart your casino , hope betller comes up with something interesting and there will be a good PVP betting site to hang out and bet at ( at last )

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There are many declined bets meaning you are struggling to attract more players. Therefore you should invest some mony to promote your website.

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November 03, 2019, 09:31:51 PM
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In order to increase user base, you should start with deposit bonus rather than running a wagering contest. I was going through the contest and bonus page and was not happy with it. To attract new user you have to offer something from your pocket first. Your competitors are doing it why can't you?
Wagering is good to but I agree about the site having a deposit bonus when you deposit an amount of btc. As far as I am concern, there are lots of crypto websites that give deposit bonus to players. Players will have more btc to wage in your website which it's also a good start for players and the site.

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November 04, 2019, 05:29:00 AM
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you can bet 0.0001 to win 0.003 btc , all you have to do is risk it with a 30x multiplier and you will have a 1% HE
with the PVP site you risk same 10k satoshi to get 300k , the chances of you hitting that should be around 3.33% but you will pay a 5% HE instead
There is no chance winning percentage from your bet on this site, its not a dice.

The winner decides by the prize of bitcoin for your winning prize it's from "How much money you put into the bet & How many people on the pool bets". So there is no chance of winning on this site.

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November 04, 2019, 05:47:10 AM
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Love the interface, color choice is pleasing to the eye.
When you place a bet though, does it lock in the current Bitcoin price after the round commences / betting time is up?
I hope so, otherwise in theory it seems you can just chose the more likely path based on what the price movement has been since the initial BTC price call.

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In order to increase user base, you should start with deposit bonus rather than running a wagering contest. I was going through the contest and bonus page and was not happy with it. To attract new user you have to offer something from your pocket first. Your competitors are doing it why can't you?
Wagering is good to but I agree about the site having a deposit bonus when you deposit an amount of btc. As far as I am concern, there are lots of crypto websites that give deposit bonus to players. Players will have more btc to wage in your website which it's also a good start for players and the site.

I would prefer wagering instead of deposit bonus but the wagering contest should be more attractive than what they have now. On other side, deposit bonus is not a good offer because most deposit bonus requires a huge wagering requirement. Would you both take deposit bonus with high wagering requirement? Having more btc to wager as a reason to like deposit bonus does not make senses for me unless there is no wagering requirement behind the bonus (at least low wagering requirement).

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November 04, 2019, 10:35:15 AM
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I think this is a good betting site. All we know that betting site is really popular because it is very easy type of gambling. The good thing about this you will not experienced a hassle in registration because kyc is not needed anymore. If you are newbie and want to try and learn there is a small amount of minimum btc bet amount.

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November 04, 2019, 10:51:33 AM
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In order to increase user base, you should start with deposit bonus rather than running a wagering contest. I was going through the contest and bonus page and was not happy with it. To attract new user you have to offer something from your pocket first. Your competitors are doing it why can't you?
Wagering is good to but I agree about the site having a deposit bonus when you deposit an amount of btc. As far as I am concern, there are lots of crypto websites that give deposit bonus to players. Players will have more btc to wage in your website which it's also a good start for players and the site.
I would prefer wagering instead of deposit bonus but the wagering contest should be more attractive than what they have now. On other side, deposit bonus is not a good offer because most deposit bonus requires a huge wagering requirement. Would you both take deposit bonus with high wagering requirement? Having more btc to wager as a reason to like deposit bonus does not make senses for me unless there is no wagering requirement behind the bonus (at least low wagering requirement).
I think both are good it's just how we can use them well. If you choose a Deposit bonus that means you have to complete the wagering requirements and can be withdrawn. And if you choose to take part in a wagering contest it means you also have to compete with the players there. Both have advantages and difficulties so how can you make good use of it. But why not try both?
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November 05, 2019, 05:37:22 AM
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Welcome to bitcointalk. I have checked your website and its looking good to me. Specially mobile version and colour combination is nice. Although forum users isn't well notified about your service. Hope that will be enough professional which is really necessary to run a betting platform. After visiting your telegram channel link i just found little amount of user there and its quite common for a new startup. Most probably you have marketting plans and after implementing that you maybe be able to get players on your platform.






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November 05, 2019, 09:25:31 AM
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In order to increase user base, you should start with deposit bonus rather than running a wagering contest. I was going through the contest and bonus page and was not happy with it. To attract new user you have to offer something from your pocket first. Your competitors are doing it why can't you?
Wagering is good to but I agree about the site having a deposit bonus when you deposit an amount of btc. As far as I am concern, there are lots of crypto websites that give deposit bonus to players. Players will have more btc to wage in your website which it's also a good start for players and the site.
I would prefer wagering instead of deposit bonus but the wagering contest should be more attractive than what they have now. On other side, deposit bonus is not a good offer because most deposit bonus requires a huge wagering requirement. Would you both take deposit bonus with high wagering requirement? Having more btc to wager as a reason to like deposit bonus does not make senses for me unless there is no wagering requirement behind the bonus (at least low wagering requirement).
I think both are good it's just how we can use them well. If you choose a Deposit bonus that means you have to complete the wagering requirements and can be withdrawn. And if you choose to take part in a wagering contest it means you also have to compete with the players there. Both have advantages and difficulties so how can you make good use of it. But why not try both?

Both are indeed good for the site, but I'm talking in the side as a player. I would never tried deposit bonus if the wagering requirement is too high, no matter if there is an advantage like what you think but for me deposit bonus is something that makes player get more -EV compared wagering contest.
In wagering contest, player can stop anytime they want especially if players are getting profit already. It does not apply with deposit bonus where we cant stop anytime as we have to complete the wagering requirement in order to withdraw money.

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Good site, easy to use, but lack of users makes it difficult to find someone on the other side of the bet everytime.
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January 25, 2020, 05:15:23 AM
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but lack of users makes it difficult to find someone on the other side of the bet everytime.
I think this isn't very big issue for new platform. It would take time to introduce their platform to gamblers since its totally new. That's only one disadvantage for peer to peer betting platform. Also there is matter of time zone, worldwide gamblers won't active at once. However, I think it will solved within month or more. When more and more gamblers will registered there someone always will be other end. Anyway, platform seems good to me. Let's see react of gamblers.





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January 25, 2020, 06:24:11 AM
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but lack of users makes it difficult to find someone on the other side of the bet everytime.
I think this isn't very big issue for new platform. It would take time to introduce their platform to gamblers since its totally new. That's only one disadvantage for peer to peer betting platform.
I think so When I was playing at their peer to peer platform I was on the time that many players are active that time, I think it is the time where many players who got from their sign up bonus is playing, After some time I stop on playing and decide to play after I got a rest, Players are showed online but there are aren't not many people playing so the rounds tend to decline each time. I think it is the main issue for me. This kind of gambling site needs to have better traffic from players to avoid decline in rounds continuously that avoids people to play in this kind of system.

For me this idea is good, p2p battle is what I enjoyed most, I think administrators need more promotions or some kind of campaign to promote this gambling site here and attract more people in playing.

By the way, I got my withdrawal request received on my wallet and proving that they are paying from the sign-up bonus that they are giving away.


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