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April 12, 2021, 10:25:22 PM
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A bit heroic if I'm going to be honest, not everyday do you see someone patting someone else's shoulder to keep them from doing something they may regret in the future. And frankly speaking, I wouldn't do that personally. I have bad experiences about giving advice, so to tell someone what to do with their money while they are in the climax of their addiction is probably not the best thing to do, at least for me.
That's also my worry, you don't engage with gamblers with that randomly if you don't know them. Can give a few talks to give them some reminder but wouldn't go full as if you're friends with them. You might even get scolded and they'll say to mind your own business.
Not really that much confident on dealing with unknown people and trying to speak up something regarding on what theyre doing.Its their own money man and who the hell
are you to mandate or do tell them on what to do with their own money? You dont have the rights on saying or making some reminders because not all people would really
be that cool or approachable.I cant really just afford that someone would just tell me on minding my own business, thats why i dont really care on what they would gonna
do into their stuff.Its their own lives and you should be aware on the risk before you had play gambling.

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April 12, 2021, 10:43:40 PM
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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.

I also experienced the same thing, whenever advising others regarding bad gambling habits, there was often quite a loud debate. And in the end
there were frequent quarrels, so since that incident I have stopped advising people about gambling well. In the end I only let people suffer losses
when playing gambling, because I believe that person can handle the problem on their own. Because if I try to stop other people from gambling,
it becomes tiring, because there will be arguments. That will not end well in the end, I choose not to interfere in other people's problems anymore.

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April 13, 2021, 01:43:47 PM
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A bit heroic if I'm going to be honest, not everyday do you see someone patting someone else's shoulder to keep them from doing something they may regret in the future. And frankly speaking, I wouldn't do that personally. I have bad experiences about giving advice, so to tell someone what to do with their money while they are in the climax of their addiction is probably not the best thing to do, at least for me.
That's also my worry, you don't engage with gamblers with that randomly if you don't know them. Can give a few talks to give them some reminder but wouldn't go full as if you're friends with them. You might even get scolded and they'll say to mind your own business.
Not really that much confident on dealing with unknown people and trying to speak up something regarding on what theyre doing.Its their own money man and who the hell
are you to mandate or do tell them on what to do with their own money? You dont have the rights on saying or making some reminders because not all people would really
be that cool or approachable.I cant really just afford that someone would just tell me on minding my own business, thats why i dont really care on what they would gonna
do into their stuff.Its their own lives and you should be aware on the risk before you had play gambling.
That's why I'm worried to do things like this because you may not know the character of that gambler that you're going to talk with or give a reminder.
You might have a good intention but you'll never know if he/she will appreciate the good intention that you're about to do or might think of it that you have bad intentions.

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April 14, 2021, 05:59:29 AM
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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.
That can make misunderstanding between them and us and if there are no mutually succumbing to each other, that can lead to a fight between us. If they do not want to accept my advice to stop gambling right away, I will leave them and tell the other friends that he needs help to stop gambling. I do not want to trigger a fight with people who still want to gamble because that can offend him, making our relationship a problem.

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April 14, 2021, 07:41:01 AM
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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.

I have the same style as other people too. when telling them to correct something they often see it as something like owning them or controlling what they are doing. The only thing we can do is remind because we don't know what kind of people they are inside. we have no control over them anyway, maybe if we tell them some good advice, they might listen to it and stop the things they are doing that currently wrong. Just good advice with a strategy that wouldn't hurt them that maybe enough.

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April 14, 2021, 11:51:23 AM
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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.
That can make misunderstanding between them and us and if there are no mutually succumbing to each other, that can lead to a fight between us. If they do not want to accept my advice to stop gambling right away, I will leave them and tell the other friends that he needs help to stop gambling. I do not want to trigger a fight with people who still want to gamble because that can offend him, making our relationship a problem.

That is the right approach.You cannot try and give advice to a gambler while he is playing and he cannot really focus to your advice.Beside that this is the worst moment to talk to a gambler especially if he is losing a lot of money and can trigger only bad things.The best thing to do is to talk to him when he finish the session and can focus or be more relaxed to listen to you.

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April 14, 2021, 01:22:36 PM
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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.
That can make misunderstanding between them and us and if there are no mutually succumbing to each other, that can lead to a fight between us. If they do not want to accept my advice to stop gambling right away, I will leave them and tell the other friends that he needs help to stop gambling. I do not want to trigger a fight with people who still want to gamble because that can offend him, making our relationship a problem.

That is the right approach.You cannot try and give advice to a gambler while he is playing and he cannot really focus to your advice.Beside that this is the worst moment to talk to a gambler especially if he is losing a lot of money and can trigger only bad things.The best thing to do is to talk to him when he finish the session and can focus or be more relaxed to listen to you.
Yes, but I am afraid that we need to wait until he finishes the session, and if he finishes in the next hour with a big loss, I am worried that he can become mad, sad, or another negative feeling. Maybe at that time, we can let him alone and not disturb him but we need to watch out for him to make sure he does not do anything worse. That is what a real friend needs to do when he sees his friend is drops and still beside him no matter how his conditions. I am sure he will open his mind when he can calm down after losing that money.

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April 17, 2021, 09:05:44 AM
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I haven't tried giving advice to people on their betting behavior, at least ever since the fact that I would always get into a fight with someone when I tell them what to do with their money. Don't get me wrong, what you did was good and probably was the right thing to do, but I just don't see myself being altruistic enough to help a fellow gambler in deep mire after wasting away thousands of dollars on a loss.

I have the same style as other people too. when telling them to correct something they often see it as something like owning them or controlling what they are doing. The only thing we can do is remind because we don't know what kind of people they are inside. we have no control over them anyway, maybe if we tell them some good advice, they might listen to it and stop the things they are doing that currently wrong. Just good advice with a strategy that wouldn't hurt them that maybe enough.
Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
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April 18, 2021, 06:44:17 AM
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Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
We can give short story with our bad gambling experiences and if they are not going to stop. We are likely going to give them the best advise for their good.

But after that, it is hard to know if they will listen.



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April 18, 2021, 11:01:59 AM
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Yes, but I am afraid that we need to wait until he finishes the session, and if he finishes in the next hour with a big loss, I am worried that he can become mad, sad, or another negative feeling. Maybe at that time, we can let him alone and not disturb him but we need to watch out for him to make sure he does not do anything worse. That is what a real friend needs to do when he sees his friend is drops and still beside him no matter how his conditions. I am sure he will open his mind when he can calm down after losing that money.
Actually, the best option here would either take a snap of him gambling (and looking quite crazy) or let him take a peek at the amount he lost. Words aren't always enough to persuade someone, more so a person that's turned blind due to rage. It'd rather be helpful to actually present him with facts instead. I used to try talking it out with them, didn't really turn out THAT well, but it helped, albeit a little. That's why I tried turning into facts instead of encouraging words, no matter how damaging it may be.

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April 18, 2021, 11:09:38 AM
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Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
We can give short story with our bad gambling experiences and if they are not going to stop. We are likely going to give them the best advise for their good.

But after that, it is hard to know if they will listen.

The truth is, it is tough to give advise for a gambler who doesn't want to listen. Because for them, it is their life and so they can do what they want in life. Unless, they are already affecting individuals that you are also closed to, like family member. But the ultimate change can only happen from the person himself. That job, changing someone's perspectives in life, is quite pretty hard.
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Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
We can give short story with our bad gambling experiences and if they are not going to stop. We are likely going to give them the best advise for their good.

But after that, it is hard to know if they will listen.

The truth is, it is tough to give advise for a gambler who doesn't want to listen. Because for them, it is their life and so they can do what they want in life. Unless, they are already affecting individuals that you are also closed to, like family member. But the ultimate change can only happen from the person himself. That job, changing someone's perspectives in life, is quite pretty hard.
Maybe a large part of their brains have put it all in gambling, our advice is just a breeze blowing through them and the wind blowing more just cooled their mood for a moment. Eventually, they will also go back to gambling as they often do, the most frightening thing is the loss can lead them to do bad things and harm us when we have too close distance and relationship with them, there are too many typical cases for the murder of family members for money gambling, it is hard to pull someone who is sinking into gambling to get back perfectly

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April 18, 2021, 01:56:03 PM
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Stopping gamblers from continued wagering is possible. As said in one of the post, we need to explain the experience in a short story. Very few will be in a situation to accept, because when one is in losing streak the mind always tempts to recover the loss. Only after one real-time experience user will understand what the person had said is true and should've followed it earlier.

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Very few will be in a situation to accept, because when one is in losing streak the mind always tempts to recover the loss. Only after one real-time experience user will understand what the person had said is true and should've followed it earlier.
If they are ready to accept then they might have already got the knowledge (before entering into gambling on that particular day) and might be having plan when to stop and when to quit gambling for the day. I guess talking to someone in the middle of gambling and explaining the dangers of continuing gambling may not work because they might think like your talking out of jealous because they might assume that they are going to win bigger than what they have already achieved.

Overall, talking to gamblers about the dangers of long gambling session must be working when we are talking to them when they are not gambling and especially when they are having stable mindset.
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Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
We can give short story with our bad gambling experiences and if they are not going to stop. We are likely going to give them the best advise for their good.

But after that, it is hard to know if they will listen.

The truth is, it is tough to give advise for a gambler who doesn't want to listen. Because for them, it is their life and so they can do what they want in life. Unless, they are already affecting individuals that you are also closed to, like family member. But the ultimate change can only happen from the person himself. That job, changing someone's perspectives in life, is quite pretty hard.
You give your advice and let them listen or not.

We're done if they are hard-headed and you keep worrying about them. We only do this to the people that we're close with.

But giving advise to random gamblers, we don't do that.



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April 20, 2021, 09:40:29 PM
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Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
We can give short story with our bad gambling experiences and if they are not going to stop. We are likely going to give them the best advise for their good.

But after that, it is hard to know if they will listen.
The gamblers won't listen. Telling your short story sounds like a good idea, but that seems just like what OP did and it didn't give any positive result. The problem is that a gambler who's chasing losses won't stop no matter what. If they were in their right mind - they could've understood what's happening and see what's coming themselves. But in such cases, it's almost like talking to a kid, you tell them to learn from your mistakes but they keep thinking "that happened to you, that won't happen to me". And here we go.
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April 20, 2021, 11:51:58 PM
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A bit heroic if I'm going to be honest, not everyday do you see someone patting someone else's shoulder to keep them from doing something they may regret in the future. And frankly speaking, I wouldn't do that personally. I have bad experiences about giving advice, so to tell someone what to do with their money while they are in the climax of their addiction is probably not the best thing to do, at least for me.
That's also my worry, you don't engage with gamblers with that randomly if you don't know them. Can give a few talks to give them some reminder but wouldn't go full as if you're friends with them. You might even get scolded and they'll say to mind your own business.
Not really that much confident on dealing with unknown people and trying to speak up something regarding on what theyre doing.Its their own money man and who the hell
are you to mandate or do tell them on what to do with their own money? You dont have the rights on saying or making some reminders because not all people would really
be that cool or approachable.I cant really just afford that someone would just tell me on minding my own business, thats why i dont really care on what they would gonna
do into their stuff.Its their own lives and you should be aware on the risk before you had play gambling.
That's why I'm worried to do things like this because you may not know the character of that gambler that you're going to talk with or give a reminder.
You might have a good intention but you'll never know if he/she will appreciate the good intention that you're about to do or might think of it that you have bad intentions.
Also i dont have much confidence on approaching into someone and tell them on what they should gonna do.As mentioned earlier that its their money and we dont have
right on what they would gonna do about it.Not to say that im not really that giving off some concern but we are the ones who are making out actions which can
possibly affect our future.So better be wary on things that you are dealing and if you dont like to have messed up life then do things on moderation.
Dont go overboard or too much because everything which is too much is always bad.

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Yes, we can't get to know the true mind of a person watching from the outside. When it comes to gambling, the advice we give can bring good to them. But, everyone won't take it in the same way. For our mind satisfaction we can give advice or brief the real-time experience.
We can give short story with our bad gambling experiences and if they are not going to stop. We are likely going to give them the best advise for their good.

But after that, it is hard to know if they will listen.
The gamblers won't listen. Telling your short story sounds like a good idea, but that seems just like what OP did and it didn't give any positive result. The problem is that a gambler who's chasing losses won't stop no matter what. If they were in their right mind - they could've understood what's happening and see what's coming themselves. But in such cases, it's almost like talking to a kid, you tell them to learn from your mistakes but they keep thinking "that happened to you, that won't happen to me". And here we go.

My university friend is a very gambling person.  He loses his entire scholarship at slot machines. 

Before the game, he drinks half a bottle of brandy. 

Several times I tried to stop him.  I remember I asked him - "What do you need to sober up?"  He said - "To sober up - I need to drink a large mug of coffee."  I bought him a large mug of coffee and a cupcake. 

He drank coffee, ate a cupcake, but continued to remain in a state of alcoholic intoxication.  Moreover, he began to behave aggressively (which is not typical for him) and tried to start a fight with me. 

After this incident, I realized that it is impossible to rid the player of gambling addiction. 

And my friend lost his scholarship and started taking loans and credits so that he could keep playing.

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April 21, 2021, 10:55:43 AM
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It's really hard to stop someone that tries to recover his losses, even if you stop him his mind keeps telling him to bet more because he can't still accept the reality that his bankroll is gone in just few minutes. Greed is really difficult to overcome because our opponent here is our own emotion. Having a self-control and discipline is also not easy to have. I think most of us experience this in our gambling journey and being an optimist, it taught me a lesson to never chase your losses in gambling. Just exit that casino and relax yourself by doing other stuffs.
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April 21, 2021, 11:47:50 AM
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It's really hard to stop someone that tries to recover his losses, even if you stop him his mind keeps telling him to bet more because he can't still accept the reality that his bankroll is gone in just few minutes. Greed is really difficult to overcome because our opponent here is our own emotion. Having a self-control and discipline is also not easy to have. I think most of us experience this in our gambling journey and being an optimist, it taught me a lesson to never chase your losses in gambling. Just exit that casino and relax yourself by doing other stuffs.


I agree, just telling someone to stop will maybe make him stop for an hours or half day. But the losses are always on our head and we keep thinking about how to recover them. If we really want to help someone we need him to fully understand that he is facing the risk to lose even more money. To fully change the mindset a change of scenery could help. Getting out of your own comfort zone can help a lot. So far I always managed to stop myself. Hopefully if it ever gets to far my friends will help me.
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