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November 08, 2019, 07:04:57 PM
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After reading few posts about how successful ferrum network bounty was i detect that the actual amount of the total bounty allocation is just around 45k and i think to myself maybe this was the reason why it become easy for the team to pay hunters?

It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong

Well, you might be right. It also sometimes comes faster than expected, compared to how slow project teams find it difficult to pay these days.
On the other hand, there are still some projects with large allocations, who still pay on time, but the ratio is usually very pow, when compared to those with small allocations and whose projects succeeded.
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November 08, 2019, 07:34:18 PM
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you are right at your point. Any bounty with a huge allocation is probably a scam or will not pay hunters. most campaigns resort to change the token allocation towards the end of the bounty. some due extend the bounty period without increasing the initial allocation. while many project have the habit of delaying payments until hunters has forgotten about the bounty. Most cases, i do blame campaign managers for this mess.
they failed to uphold their integrity because they will get paid at the end of the project maybe in eth or btc.
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November 08, 2019, 10:06:34 PM
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It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong
Not like that, man. The allocation of the bounty pool does not affect the bounty reward distribution. Low allocation, many participants, that means you will get a small reward too, right? it doesn't matter if the project is really good and promising. But if there are projects with many allocations and promises, will you just skip it for fear of the delayed and long distribution process?
It seems you have to change your mindset. Being a bounty hunter requires proper analysis and calculation, all risks are your responsibility because you have chosen to join so don't blame anyone if something is not in line with your expectations. We must become educated bounty hunters. Don't make allocation as the main reference, but the quality of the project must also be considered. Don't just judge from one aspect.

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November 08, 2019, 10:16:51 PM
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you are right at your point. Any bounty with a huge allocation is probably a scam or will not pay hunters. most campaigns resort to change the token allocation towards the end of the bounty. some due extend the bounty period without increasing the initial allocation. while many project have the habit of delaying payments until hunters has forgotten about the bounty. Most cases, i do blame campaign managers for this mess.
they failed to uphold their integrity because they will get paid at the end of the project maybe in eth or btc.
I don't think it has any effect because if a bounty campaign has a good project and can make investors interested, the allocation of many or little bounty campaigns will still be paid, it all depends on the project developer who can make the project useful or not.

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November 08, 2019, 10:21:11 PM
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The Ferrum Bounty Campaign was successful, but the rewards were very few tokens. if we talk about whether we need to participate in such awards - it is necessary. if we are talking about whether it is profitable - no. I participated and I will hold their tokens for a long time
You say that it is not profitable and at the same time want to keep their coins as long as possible.Yes, the payment was small, but still do not forget that wants to implement this startup.If they succeed, the participants of the bounty will not remain offended. Remember how many projects there were that collected huge sums and in the end achieved nothing.Ferrum is the absolute opposite.

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November 08, 2019, 11:43:54 PM
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in fact large allocations or small allocations do not matter, because the success of the project depends on investor funds for further product development and the performance of the team and developers in promoting the project. it's just that most of the ico projects that allocate in small amounts have good opportunities compared to large allocations.
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November 08, 2019, 11:49:27 PM
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If the number of participants isn't that much then that small pool of reward will flow into those few participants. But this is still the manager's decision if they will allocate all of those dedicated rewards to all of you.
I've seen complains that despite of being few and the expected reward isn't that high but since they are few, it looks high for the distribution for each participant but it didn't go along as expected.

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November 08, 2019, 11:53:17 PM
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The allocation should have nothing to do with whether bounty hunters get paid or not.  It comes down to a question of whether the project devs are honest and keep their word.  They promise a certain number of tokens right from the start, and they ought to know whether they're going to be able to hold up their end of the deal when they make that promise. 

Ultimately it's still possible for them to scam their bounty hunters no matter how low the allocation is, and there's no way you're going to be able to determine that ahead of time, believe me.
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November 09, 2019, 12:44:25 AM
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After reading few posts about how successful ferrum network bounty was i detect that the actual amount of the total bounty allocation is just around 45k and i think to myself maybe this was the reason why it become easy for the team to pay hunters?

It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong

Youre judgement is askew. How come you can say that 45k USD is small and they can pay it right away because of that? At least they pay. The amount given is based on tokens and the token price can changed in the future. About million payment, this can be possible in relation to their tokenomics but the value could also go down or becomes valueless.

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November 09, 2019, 12:57:00 AM
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I don't think it's a matter of allocation, it's a matter of whether their project works or not. If their project succeeds in touching the hardcap, whatever allocations I think will be distributed. The difference is the story if the project fails, a little or a lot, surely the developer will think again to distribute the tokens. It may even be not shared at all to participants.



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November 09, 2019, 12:57:36 AM
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It is easier that way. But everyone should still be paid up to the decimals.
The calculator is built for that. They wont really need to think much about number.
The spreadsheet also have its own calculator with just the right formula.

I don't think there is really a hard thing with just basic math now. Although the market will be different. That token could receive a higher value because of low amount of tokens.

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November 09, 2019, 02:17:59 AM
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I don't think it's a matter of allocation, it's a matter of whether their project works or not. If their project succeeds in touching the hardcap, whatever allocations I think will be distributed. The difference is the story if the project fails, a little or a lot, surely the developer will think again to distribute the tokens. It may even be not shared at all to participants.

Agree, this is not a matter of bounty allocation but about the commitment of the developer team. Last year there were many bounties whose bounty allocations were large and they continued to pay, this was due to a large team commitment to the success of the project. Unpaid bounties may have a cause and one of them is that the project has not yet been traded on the market or the project is not ready to go on the market
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November 09, 2019, 02:26:17 AM
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After reading few posts about how successful ferrum network bounty was i detect that the actual amount of the total bounty allocation is just around 45k and i think to myself maybe this was the reason why it become easy for the team to pay hunters?

It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong

It depends on the project manager and the bounty manager, i've joined many bounties with big bounty pool and paid at the right time also.
If the stakes are counted after the bounty ended, or at least 1 week after the bounty ended, i think it's an easy work to send the tokens for the project manager. So if the stakes already counted and tokens are not sent for a long time, it's not the fault of bounty manager anymore, the project manager has responsible for it because the finish line for bounty manager is giving the sheets of counted stakes to the team project manager
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November 09, 2019, 03:08:24 AM
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It is true that a small allocation always pays the participants of the campaign. Most major allocation is fraud because it promises to be too big and it will hurt investors someday.
So a great opportunity to pay is on a small allocation though because it can be in logic with the brain that if it is too much to gift the forum it will harm investors.

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November 09, 2019, 03:15:00 AM
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After reading few posts about how successful ferrum network bounty was i detect that the actual amount of the total bounty allocation is just around 45k and i think to myself maybe this was the reason why it become easy for the team to pay hunters?

It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong

It depends on the project manager and the bounty manager, i've joined many bounties with big bounty pool and paid at the right time also.
If the stakes are counted after the bounty ended, or at least 1 week after the bounty ended, i think it's an easy work to send the tokens for the project manager. So if the stakes already counted and tokens are not sent for a long time, it's not the fault of bounty manager anymore, the project manager has responsible for it because the finish line for bounty manager is giving the sheets of counted stakes to the team project manager
If we're talking about the project around the year 2016-2017, having a huge bounty pool is not a matter for them, since ico's before being able to raise enough funds or achieved their target funds until the end of the project. However, having a huge bounty pool right now seems unrealistic because it is hard to raise funds due to investors are being cautious and still avoiding investment in ico's.



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November 09, 2019, 04:11:37 AM
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After reading few posts about how successful ferrum network bounty was i detect that the actual amount of the total bounty allocation is just around 45k and i think to myself maybe this was the reason why it become easy for the team to pay hunters?
even small allocation for bounty hunter, if the project doesnt get good investment. so, the project will be hard to pay bounty hunter.

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It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong
it doesnt depend on bounty allocation, but depend on investment reached. big allocation if get big investment too, it would be easy to pay

 
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November 09, 2019, 04:35:16 AM
Last edit: November 09, 2019, 05:00:53 AM by Rodeo02
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you are right at your point. Any bounty with a huge allocation is probably a scam or will not pay hunters. most campaigns resort to change the token allocation towards the end of the bounty. some due extend the bounty period without increasing the initial allocation. while many project have the habit of delaying payments until hunters has forgotten about the bounty. Most cases, i do blame campaign managers for this mess.
they failed to uphold their integrity because they will get paid at the end of the project maybe in eth or btc.
No its not, this 2-3% bounty allocation is normal i remember before they give upto 5% allocated just for the bounty.
That 45k token is not the issue here you should check how many supply is available in the market so you will know how many percent they given for bounty. All do its just 45k token ,what if they only have 3m total supply so its still normal as others.
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November 09, 2019, 04:40:05 AM
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you are right at your point. Any bounty with a huge allocation is probably a scam or will not pay hunters. most campaigns resort to change the token allocation towards the end of the bounty. some due extend the bounty period without increasing the initial allocation. while many project have the habit of delaying payments until hunters has forgotten about the bounty. Most cases, i do blame campaign managers for this mess.
they failed to uphold their integrity because they will get paid at the end of the project maybe in eth or btc.
No its not, this 2-3% bounty allocation is normal i remember before they give upto 5% allocated just for the bounty.
That 45k token is not the issue here you should check how many supply is available in the market so you will know how many percent they given for bounty. All do its just 45k token what if they only have 3m total supply so its still normal as others.
right, 2-3% of the bounty allocation is indeed reasonable, and many projects give it that much. therefore if the bounty hunter is designated as the cause of the dump, I don't think that is entirely true, because the tokens circulating in the bounty hunter are not too significant


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November 09, 2019, 04:47:34 AM
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After reading few posts about how successful ferrum network bounty was i detect that the actual amount of the total bounty allocation is just around 45k and i think to myself maybe this was the reason why it become easy for the team to pay hunters?

It seems that bounties with not very large allocations are better because there is a high chance of getting paid over those bounties with 1million pool? am i right or wrong
Most likely but it depends ofcourse if the project becomes successful like Ferrum a successful IEO as far as i know . In fact low bounty allocation was not that recognizable to think that bounty hunters always look in big reward bounties in reality after that to look in the project .

 
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November 09, 2019, 05:01:12 AM
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you are right at your point. Any bounty with a huge allocation is probably a scam or will not pay hunters. most campaigns resort to change the token allocation towards the end of the bounty. some due extend the bounty period without increasing the initial allocation. while many project have the habit of delaying payments until hunters has forgotten about the bounty. Most cases, i do blame campaign managers for this mess.
they failed to uphold their integrity because they will get paid at the end of the project maybe in eth or btc.
No its not, this 2-3% bounty allocation is normal i remember before they give upto 5% allocated just for the bounty.
That 45k token is not the issue here you should check how many supply is available in the market so you will know how many percent they given for bounty. All do its just 45k token what if they only have 3m total supply so its still normal as others.
giving an allocation of around 2-4% is quite normal because it is quite a small amount if calculated from 100%. the absurd thing is when they allocate up to millions of dollars, but the hardcap itself is not far from it, or even very high.

but it must be stressed that not all small allocations are easy to pay, and not all large allocations are difficult to pay. for example, in the BCNEX project, I think they paid more than millions of dollars for their supporters, even though it takes time, and conditions, I think they still pay their bounty hunters or airdrop users. so, easy or not the payment of a bounty depends on the team, whether they are professional in their words or not.
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