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November 09, 2019, 10:52:28 PM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

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November 09, 2019, 11:04:43 PM
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Buddha speaks of right effort in attaining nirvana. Making crypto used in the group/with the people that need it the most will take a lot of voicing from us (people already using Crypto often). It'll be interesting, some communities will/have already really be/been shielded by BTC's arising..
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November 09, 2019, 11:15:50 PM
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actually I don't really understand what you are talking about even though you wrote it at length, everything must be achieved by hard work especially for beginners, I used to get Bitcoin with a faucet, I collect day and night but the results are very few, but that's where I learned to look for better.
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November 09, 2019, 11:57:51 PM
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I think that is much concern with learning correctly on how Bitcoin works or how we learn to use Bitcoin.
Because working is already given, working to get salary and feed our family is already given.
Salary can be form of Bitcoin or fiat, both are currency and can buy foods, any items or services.
I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".

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November 10, 2019, 12:16:02 AM
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Well one should understand that Bitcoins can never work the way we want , even if we give it our 100% even then it will go according to what it wants not according to what we want , therefore I think this 100% won't work here , because I don't think the market can be swayed by anything or anyone an unfortunately it's like playing poker where we don't know what we are gonna get and I don't think God decides out future or anyone instead he leaves us to decide for ourselves.

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November 10, 2019, 12:48:26 AM
Last edit: November 10, 2019, 02:10:31 AM by bitsurfer2014
 #6

I understand OP is conveying an inspirational message to every member of the crypto community especially on this forum, regardless of rank as it is also applicable to our lives and not just on our Bitcoin and cryptocurrency endeavors.

Probably I also need those words of encouragement and I appreciate what OP had posted since it supports my ideals about hardwork, sacrifice, perseverance and dedication.

I suppose such inspirational message is very assuring that somehow, all our efforts will be justly rewarded at the end and that hard work will always result to fruition! I guess I'm confident everybody will agree with it.

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November 10, 2019, 12:53:28 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



What exactly are you telling to broadcast from this your post?  Personally, I don't really think these quotes have any relation to the title of your post.  I get it that you are trying to motivative on the essentials needed for someone to succeed but I don't really see the relevance of these to the title of the post. You should come and try to make this very clear and build some connections between the post to the journey of Bitcoin or how people succeed in their Bitcoin investment...
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November 10, 2019, 01:21:04 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



I have no idea how is this related to Bitcoin?
While reading it appeared to me more as a motivational guidance. Something that gurus preach. What and how to relate it to Bitcoin based discussion is that I am struggling to understand?

By the way it is always 80 percent work and 20 percent luck to be a successful individual 😜😄

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November 10, 2019, 01:40:35 AM
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We should also consider that you get the correct information while starting you bitcoin journey because there are a lot of newbies still falling for the trap that Bitcoin Cash is the real BTC. So this is very important.

However, with every endeavor in our life, we really need to work our ass off, if you're a trader here, definitely you need to learn a lot and be knowledgeable because it will really mean success or failure in your crypto journey.

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November 10, 2019, 06:48:53 AM
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Those people who just work because they are obliged can't be successful. If you really want to be successful, you don't just work because you have to. Change that mindset and work because you want to.
When I started here at crypto, I learned that I always have to give extra extra effort if I really want to achieve my goal and be successful in crpto. Because here, it's not easy to earn money that's why effort is very crucial in this field. We can't achieve what we aim if we don't work hard for it.

This is actually a good message for beginners to know what they have to do here. Efforts.

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The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion: You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket. We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


In other words, when things are not coming our way, we have to make sure to do things our way. This is the kind of spirit that I am sure also inspired Satoshi Nakamoto in his journey towards introducing the Bitcoin platform and the popularization of the blockchain technology. The same kind of mindset that resulted into the many inventions and innovations from the past into the present and am sure guiding us towards the future of humanity, as well. Now, having said that, I am still wondering if one has a goal of earning Bitcoin, what should a person do? That is, aside from opening up his savings of the fiat money to buy Bitcoin.
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Good pieces of advice for newcomers to cryptocurrency in general. I have only noticed that your advices are somewhat concerned with mentality and slight touch of ethics, which is good, but I don't think it's for this subforum. This post could be more appropriate Beginners subforum where new people might have a look into before dwelling on crypto. Nevertheless, these advices could prove useful for everyone, not only just those who recently started, as it turns out even those who are experienced sometime gets off track.



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November 10, 2019, 09:17:47 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



What exactly are you telling to broadcast from this your post?  Personally, I don't really think these quotes have any relation to the title of your post.  I get it that you are trying to motivative on the essentials needed for someone to succeed but I don't really see the relevance of these to the title of the post. You should come and try to make this very clear and build some connections between the post to the journey of Bitcoin or how people succeed in their Bitcoin investment...

My intention in the post is to distract young people from internet scams and get them on the right track. Not only did I think about bitcoin, but more broadly, I want to tell young people not to wait for them not to give them a place at their fingertips, but to take them right away. And of course, when I sent a motivational message, which was my goal, I wanted to encourage them on the path to success.
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November 10, 2019, 09:31:20 AM
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Its really hardwork, perseverance, patience, focus, determination, courage and knowledge. The journey is not always a walk in the park. There are failures and discouragements. Sometimes you loose hope especially in trading but just leaving it for a while and do something new to unwind to make you feel better. People around can sometimes harm and discourage you but the decision always depends on you. Every earnings is very valuable and worth the wait.

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November 10, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
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That was a little bit weird to read;) But yeah of course, many truths in there. I would say none of this applies only to bitcoin though, everything applies well to life in general. But maybe it is right to remember these things especially with bitcoin, because the mistake people make is that they think bitcoin is exempt from these rules.

Earning by obligation? I wish I could avoid that;)

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November 10, 2019, 10:06:01 AM
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Those people who just work because they are obliged can't be successful. If you really want to be successful, you don't just work because you have to. Change that mindset and work because you want to.
When I started here at crypto, I learned that I always have to give extra extra effort if I really want to achieve my goal and be successful in crpto. Because here, it's not easy to earn money that's why effort is very crucial in this field. We can't achieve what we aim if we don't work hard for it.

This is actually a good message for beginners to know what they have to do here. Efforts.

Thank you for your post and help, i agree with everything you said. I find it unfortunate when I see that someone is engaged in fraud or just lying in bed, and tells how easy it is for someone who has money (bitcoin), that is, those who have done something in their lives. This is just one introduction for new bitcoin users and my sincere suggestion, which I hope they will stick with. I've had this lecture similarly, and I'm ashamed to think about how long it took me to figure it all out.
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November 10, 2019, 11:07:03 AM
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This is quite the philosophical post, to be honest - I get a lot of Buddhism feelings here, and the writing feels very calm and wise to read. Interesting post, kudos OP.

This is more of a life post, reflecting on the different ways you can think about working and life in general, with one being an obligation, and one being motivation, as you said. A lot of this doesn't actually apply to bitcoin and I would recommend you to move the post somewhere else.

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November 10, 2019, 11:28:31 AM
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If you want to get success, you must do something to get it. If you're going to be rich, you need to work. No matter if that will be from crypto or another field, you need to hard work. That will need time for you to get what you want.

Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.

Even birds need to fly and search for their food, so we need to search for something that we want. There is no free lunch, so with a big effort, we should try over and over until we've got something. Related to bitcoin, young people need to search for other ways, and if they think that is too hard, don't give up because that is the process that every people does.
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November 10, 2019, 01:08:55 PM
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You are so serious, I think if someone wants to get involved in this platform then it might be a good decision for him or her, I think this is the most potential platform for the future perspective, so we have to focus on how the Cryptocurrency could be familiar towards our community, working with Bitcoin is not just a huge difficult task, I think this is the real-time to get in this system. for a beginner, it must be a new platform, but it's not too difficult to carry out of this system, It's just a platform where you can trade, invest and hold your crypto and make a trick which one you choose. it's obvious that. without hard work, no one can shine but try to do smart, sometimes smart thinking could better than hard work.

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November 10, 2019, 02:24:54 PM
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.


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