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November 09, 2019, 10:52:28 PM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

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November 09, 2019, 11:04:43 PM
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Buddha speaks of right effort in attaining nirvana. Making crypto used in the group/with the people that need it the most will take a lot of voicing from us (people already using Crypto often). It'll be interesting, some communities will/have already really be/been shielded by BTC's arising..
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November 09, 2019, 11:15:50 PM
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actually I don't really understand what you are talking about even though you wrote it at length, everything must be achieved by hard work especially for beginners, I used to get Bitcoin with a faucet, I collect day and night but the results are very few, but that's where I learned to look for better.
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November 09, 2019, 11:57:51 PM
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I think that is much concern with learning correctly on how Bitcoin works or how we learn to use Bitcoin.
Because working is already given, working to get salary and feed our family is already given.
Salary can be form of Bitcoin or fiat, both are currency and can buy foods, any items or services.
I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".

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November 10, 2019, 12:16:02 AM
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Well one should understand that Bitcoins can never work the way we want , even if we give it our 100% even then it will go according to what it wants not according to what we want , therefore I think this 100% won't work here , because I don't think the market can be swayed by anything or anyone an unfortunately it's like playing poker where we don't know what we are gonna get and I don't think God decides out future or anyone instead he leaves us to decide for ourselves.

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November 10, 2019, 12:48:26 AM
Last edit: November 10, 2019, 02:10:31 AM by bitsurfer2014
 #6

I understand OP is conveying an inspirational message to every member of the crypto community especially on this forum, regardless of rank as it is also applicable to our lives and not just on our Bitcoin and cryptocurrency endeavors.

Probably I also need those words of encouragement and I appreciate what OP had posted since it supports my ideals about hardwork, sacrifice, perseverance and dedication.

I suppose such inspirational message is very assuring that somehow, all our efforts will be justly rewarded at the end and that hard work will always result to fruition! I guess I'm confident everybody will agree with it.

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November 10, 2019, 12:53:28 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



What exactly are you telling to broadcast from this your post?  Personally, I don't really think these quotes have any relation to the title of your post.  I get it that you are trying to motivative on the essentials needed for someone to succeed but I don't really see the relevance of these to the title of the post. You should come and try to make this very clear and build some connections between the post to the journey of Bitcoin or how people succeed in their Bitcoin investment...
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November 10, 2019, 01:21:04 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



I have no idea how is this related to Bitcoin?
While reading it appeared to me more as a motivational guidance. Something that gurus preach. What and how to relate it to Bitcoin based discussion is that I am struggling to understand?

By the way it is always 80 percent work and 20 percent luck to be a successful individual 😜😄

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November 10, 2019, 01:40:35 AM
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We should also consider that you get the correct information while starting you bitcoin journey because there are a lot of newbies still falling for the trap that Bitcoin Cash is the real BTC. So this is very important.

However, with every endeavor in our life, we really need to work our ass off, if you're a trader here, definitely you need to learn a lot and be knowledgeable because it will really mean success or failure in your crypto journey.

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November 10, 2019, 06:48:53 AM
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Those people who just work because they are obliged can't be successful. If you really want to be successful, you don't just work because you have to. Change that mindset and work because you want to.
When I started here at crypto, I learned that I always have to give extra extra effort if I really want to achieve my goal and be successful in crpto. Because here, it's not easy to earn money that's why effort is very crucial in this field. We can't achieve what we aim if we don't work hard for it.

This is actually a good message for beginners to know what they have to do here. Efforts.

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November 10, 2019, 08:21:23 AM
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The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion: You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket. We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


In other words, when things are not coming our way, we have to make sure to do things our way. This is the kind of spirit that I am sure also inspired Satoshi Nakamoto in his journey towards introducing the Bitcoin platform and the popularization of the blockchain technology. The same kind of mindset that resulted into the many inventions and innovations from the past into the present and am sure guiding us towards the future of humanity, as well. Now, having said that, I am still wondering if one has a goal of earning Bitcoin, what should a person do? That is, aside from opening up his savings of the fiat money to buy Bitcoin.
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November 10, 2019, 08:32:59 AM
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Good pieces of advice for newcomers to cryptocurrency in general. I have only noticed that your advices are somewhat concerned with mentality and slight touch of ethics, which is good, but I don't think it's for this subforum. This post could be more appropriate Beginners subforum where new people might have a look into before dwelling on crypto. Nevertheless, these advices could prove useful for everyone, not only just those who recently started, as it turns out even those who are experienced sometime gets off track.



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November 10, 2019, 09:17:47 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



What exactly are you telling to broadcast from this your post?  Personally, I don't really think these quotes have any relation to the title of your post.  I get it that you are trying to motivative on the essentials needed for someone to succeed but I don't really see the relevance of these to the title of the post. You should come and try to make this very clear and build some connections between the post to the journey of Bitcoin or how people succeed in their Bitcoin investment...

My intention in the post is to distract young people from internet scams and get them on the right track. Not only did I think about bitcoin, but more broadly, I want to tell young people not to wait for them not to give them a place at their fingertips, but to take them right away. And of course, when I sent a motivational message, which was my goal, I wanted to encourage them on the path to success.
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Its really hardwork, perseverance, patience, focus, determination, courage and knowledge. The journey is not always a walk in the park. There are failures and discouragements. Sometimes you loose hope especially in trading but just leaving it for a while and do something new to unwind to make you feel better. People around can sometimes harm and discourage you but the decision always depends on you. Every earnings is very valuable and worth the wait.

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November 10, 2019, 09:35:32 AM
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That was a little bit weird to read;) But yeah of course, many truths in there. I would say none of this applies only to bitcoin though, everything applies well to life in general. But maybe it is right to remember these things especially with bitcoin, because the mistake people make is that they think bitcoin is exempt from these rules.

Earning by obligation? I wish I could avoid that;)

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November 10, 2019, 10:06:01 AM
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Those people who just work because they are obliged can't be successful. If you really want to be successful, you don't just work because you have to. Change that mindset and work because you want to.
When I started here at crypto, I learned that I always have to give extra extra effort if I really want to achieve my goal and be successful in crpto. Because here, it's not easy to earn money that's why effort is very crucial in this field. We can't achieve what we aim if we don't work hard for it.

This is actually a good message for beginners to know what they have to do here. Efforts.

Thank you for your post and help, i agree with everything you said. I find it unfortunate when I see that someone is engaged in fraud or just lying in bed, and tells how easy it is for someone who has money (bitcoin), that is, those who have done something in their lives. This is just one introduction for new bitcoin users and my sincere suggestion, which I hope they will stick with. I've had this lecture similarly, and I'm ashamed to think about how long it took me to figure it all out.
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This is quite the philosophical post, to be honest - I get a lot of Buddhism feelings here, and the writing feels very calm and wise to read. Interesting post, kudos OP.

This is more of a life post, reflecting on the different ways you can think about working and life in general, with one being an obligation, and one being motivation, as you said. A lot of this doesn't actually apply to bitcoin and I would recommend you to move the post somewhere else.

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If you want to get success, you must do something to get it. If you're going to be rich, you need to work. No matter if that will be from crypto or another field, you need to hard work. That will need time for you to get what you want.

Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.

Even birds need to fly and search for their food, so we need to search for something that we want. There is no free lunch, so with a big effort, we should try over and over until we've got something. Related to bitcoin, young people need to search for other ways, and if they think that is too hard, don't give up because that is the process that every people does.
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You are so serious, I think if someone wants to get involved in this platform then it might be a good decision for him or her, I think this is the most potential platform for the future perspective, so we have to focus on how the Cryptocurrency could be familiar towards our community, working with Bitcoin is not just a huge difficult task, I think this is the real-time to get in this system. for a beginner, it must be a new platform, but it's not too difficult to carry out of this system, It's just a platform where you can trade, invest and hold your crypto and make a trick which one you choose. it's obvious that. without hard work, no one can shine but try to do smart, sometimes smart thinking could better than hard work.

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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.


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People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.

That is the most important and that is to help their own self with doing research about the past history of Bitcoin, where it came from, why it was created, who is the founder etc. Also, it is important to know the disadvantage of it as well, why it has been dead for so many times and the reason why it rise again. Cryptocurrency is a good way source of income but let's also take note that it can be manipulated.
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.
It can inspire them and help them realize that they have to be strong enough if they wanted to be successful, well I agree with you because having enough knowledge might help them to make a wise decision for themselves. There will be times that people will take advantage of them to get the benefits that they wanted and that is the reason why you need to prepare yourself for the possible problems that might encounter in the future because as the time passes by, scammers are looking for new ways to deceive others. Actually sometimes it depends on the person itself because if they are truly wanted to avoid getting into some sort of problems when it comes to scams then they should be wise enough to think of some ways like looking for information that can enlighten them.

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People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.

Simply reading the news and updates won't give one a great motivation especially if his goal is earning BTC.  To keep the motivation alive, I believe one must achieve his goal first to keep on advancing.  There are lots of those wanna be millionaires who lost their motivations when their goal of being rich were not achieved.  Unless a person is a Bitcoin enthusiast and have Bitcoin learning as their prime interest then this motivation won't die even if they failed to earn BTC on their first try.

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November 10, 2019, 02:36:07 PM
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People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.

That is the most important and that is to help their own self with doing research about the past history of Bitcoin, where it came from, why it was created, who is the founder etc. Also, it is important to know the disadvantage of it as well, why it has been dead for so many times and the reason why it rise again. Cryptocurrency is a good way source of income but let's also take note that it can be manipulated.
Giving motivation for new user investing with bitcoin and altcoin is not important, just said them how to be ready when bitcoin price or their investment assets have lower price, many new investor only know with profit by bitcoin have higher price, why not ready when bitcoin down and increase lower of their assets.

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November 10, 2019, 02:44:24 PM
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Giving motivation for new user investing with bitcoin and altcoin is not important, just said them how to be ready when bitcoin price or their investment assets have lower price, many new investor only know with profit by bitcoin have higher price, why not ready when bitcoin down and increase lower of their assets.

Motivation keeps a person doing stuff and keep on track even in a hard times.  It is the most important factor in achieving one's goal.  Without this motivation, there will be no scientific discoveries and everything.  And possibly, Satoshi Nakamoto won't be able to finish to create Bitcoin because there will be no driving factor for him.  Honestly between obligation, and motivation, I prefer motivation because it is where a person do his best when he is highly motivated.
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I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".

I don't usually put my shoes in this situation that I just earn bitcoin in a way I want it to be. For me, buying bitcoin is the way for me to contribute to the market price and volume of bitcoin circulating in the market. Becoming someone who just earns it without contribution seems like that individual isn't contributing to the development of bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a whole. Though, the exception is simple, if you cannot buy bitcoin, tell others to buy it. That is as simple as adoption.
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


It is very important that we can motivating our co-investors and the newbies here so that we can contribute to the market even though it's unconsciously occuring. We should not let them practice the mistakes we once done before. Let us guide them that investment in bitcoin is not just about holding and waiting for the price to rise, it is also about buying and contributing whenever it is necessary. Let us help each other always and keep on looking out to lead everyone to the right path.
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Beginners will take a lot of help and knowledge from here. Considering their naive thinking, and innocent minds not knowing what they moght face upon entering the crypto space. This topic might change theur perspective and influence their goal since most of them beginners or newbies are mainly and higly driven by their aim to aern and earn without knowing and having any vcear outcomes ahead of them. Just to add, patience is also important because without it and the strong faith with their coin they might mess up and lise it all in the end.
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

People who just started here has a lot of motivation going for me and the only way they can keep it up is by reading updates news and past achievement of early investors, investing in Cryptocurrency is very tricky now, there are a lot of pitfalls, so many scammers, some projects are too good to be true, the only way you can protect yourself is educating yourself, you do this and you are safe.
For new people, they should actually study many terms here because before you should buy or take your money in here, you need to be informed first because there is a lot of terms that you maybe cannot understand so I recommend if you study on your own first. And by entering in this kind of world, you should not trust anyone, especially to those people who are offering you good stuff and you think that is not possible because maybe they are taking some advantages to get your money. We are in a digital world, we dont know who is true and who is a scam.  
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I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".

I don't usually put my shoes in this situation that I just earn bitcoin in a way I want it to be. For me, buying bitcoin is the way for me to contribute to the market price and volume of bitcoin circulating in the market. Becoming someone who just earns it without contribution seems like that individual isn't contributing to the development of bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a whole. Though, the exception is simple, if you cannot buy bitcoin, tell others to buy it. That is as simple as adoption.

I'm quite offended on what you say knowing that I don't buy btc but I only earn it thru working online . Not just me but many more are doing the same to earn a btc or a crypto but this does not mean that we are free loaders . We did our best to to get the job done  . We are helping others ( the company owners ) and they do their thing . They pay us because we deserved it . Peace bro
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November 11, 2019, 05:24:28 AM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



As newbie, they need to learn some things first before they decide to take the journey by themselves. They should learn first how the bitcoin works, what are its benefits and disadvantages so they will not back out easily once the fud are spreading everywhere.

They need to brace themselves in every possible happenings especially that the market in crypto currencies is very volatile.

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November 11, 2019, 06:56:04 AM
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these are good words to motivate others.

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.

I think that's very true what is in those words because we often see people who want to succeed in the future they always work hard and always find ways to develop their lives so they become successful people and they don't give up easily even though many trials in their work, unlike lazy people who always complain with their work.

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Beginners will take a lot of help and knowledge from here. Considering their naive thinking, and innocent minds not knowing what they moght face upon entering the crypto space. This topic might change theur perspective and influence their goal since most of them beginners or newbies are mainly and higly driven by their aim to aern and earn without knowing and having any vcear outcomes ahead of them. Just to add, patience is also important because without it and the strong faith with their coin they might mess up and lise it all in the end.

In fact,  Internet is very dangerous place,  specially for people without experience.
Crypto is really difficult to explain to the people and when I tried with some friends,  they just gave up 
Some people just looking btc price and when they learn that btc price went from $ 0.05 to almost  $ 20 000 two years ago they start to believe that btc is their way to financial freedom and stable passive income.
It's really dangerous to start to use crypto,  trade or buy without clear understanding and strategy how to do it.
New users should really be careful and educate themselves.
This topic is really good start and I hope many newbie will read it and learn.

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I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".

I don't usually put my shoes in this situation that I just earn bitcoin in a way I want it to be. For me, buying bitcoin is the way for me to contribute to the market price and volume of bitcoin circulating in the market. Becoming someone who just earns it without contribution seems like that individual isn't contributing to the development of bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a whole. Though, the exception is simple, if you cannot buy bitcoin, tell others to buy it. That is as simple as adoption.

I'm quite offended on what you say knowing that I don't buy btc but I only earn it thru working online . Not just me but many more are doing the same to earn a btc or a crypto but this does not mean that we are free loaders . We did our best to to get the job done  . We are helping others ( the company owners ) and they do their thing . They pay us because we deserved it . Peace bro
Don't be offended, it is his opinion and let him think that way. It is true that there are many more individuals that is only earning bitcoin and nothing is wrong with that, it does not mean that they don't contribute in the market because they also help in the circulation of it.
As for me,
I am doing both, that's why I know how hard to earn bitcoin. By participating in campaigns and many more ways.
I am also buying bitcoin since I need to earn more so I even participated in investing.





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actually I don't really understand what you are talking about even though you wrote it at length, everything must be achieved by hard work especially for beginners, I used to get Bitcoin with a faucet, I collect day and night but the results are very few, but that's where I learned to look for better.

Yea you certainly did find better ways.... -_- Like spamming the forum up. Very good. If you don't understand then stay out of the conversation.


I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".



I don't usually put my shoes in this situation that I just earn bitcoin in a way I want it to be. For me, buying bitcoin is the way for me to contribute to the market price and volume of bitcoin circulating in the market. Becoming someone who just earns it without contribution seems like that individual isn't contributing to the development of bitcoin and cryptocurrency as a whole. Though, the exception is simple, if you cannot buy bitcoin, tell others to buy it. That is as simple as adoption.

I'm quite offended on what you say knowing that I don't buy btc but I only earn it thru working online . Not just me but many more are doing the same to earn a btc or a crypto but this does not mean that we are free loaders . We did our best to to get the job done  . We are helping others ( the company owners ) and they do their thing . They pay us because we deserved it . Peace bro
Don't be offended, it is his opinion and let him think that way. It is true that there are many more individuals that is only earning bitcoin and nothing is wrong with that, it does not mean that they don't contribute in the market because they also help in the circulation of it.
As for me,
I am doing both, that's why I know how hard to earn bitcoin. By participating in campaigns and many more ways.
I am also buying bitcoin since I need to earn more so I even participated in investing.

I earn in bitcoin from various websites mostly SEO stuff. Anyway, I definitely contribute. I use my bitcoin all the time so how can I not be contributing. I don't see this guys point actually. Whats the point in working for fiat then going to bitcoin when you can just work for bitcoin. Here this person is telling us that earning bitcoin is not contributing it but they are doing just that. Infact earning it means you earn 100% in bitcoin. This person only buys bitcoin with some of the fiat they earn.  Tongue


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Interesting.
It's more like saying when you don't work, you don't eat. Thus, no food for a lazy man.
Putting it into earning Bitcoin, whether one is working or earning it through obligation or motivation, to have Bitcoin still results in having something to give in return.
You can either give out a service to have it or buy it to have it.
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The post is quite long but regardless of that, I'll still end but with the same conclusion. I don't care how you divide the two things but I agree that they're an important factor in becoming successful. Work and effort. Give efforts to work, work with efforts, both things will lead you to success. Because if you like the thing you're doing, you'll work hard for it.
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What's been stated in the Op is perfectly the truth. As always it is also important to make use of the opportunity as well as have perfect plans that will fill your pocket. There were so many users who have earned big out of the bounties. They worked, and they did the right thing at the right time. People who missed those days were just holding and waiting for another 2017. We don't know to what extent this is gonna happen in reality with the market of altcoins.
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November 15, 2019, 06:49:01 AM
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New people keep on their mind with increase earning with bitcoin faster than other investment, but when bitcoin drop they never think bitcoin can be down and lower price. Start journey with bitcoin is good but have to prepare when bitcoin get bad thing like price down and we can start other way to get earning when have stop with bitcoin profit investing.

Basically my observation from beginners here is they are very much concerned about the market price of bitcoin that they have. Each and every time view their asset and see how it goes and the thing I see here as a big mistake is being too affected by the market price of it. When it declines a bit, they sell. And when it spikes a bit, they do the same thing. One advice since I am a newbie too before, if we are to enter bitcoin investing, we should first understand volatility and accept it as bitcoin itself, if we accept bitcoin then we know clearly how volatile it is. Through that, the simple market decline will turn into opportunity for us to accumulate more and more bitcoin and when the time comes, we can notice ourselves investing effectively and earning real profits.
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You also need to balance everything in your life along with your goals.
As Tim Minch says, If your dream is big enough to be a life-long effort it will give you something to do with your time, but by the time you reach it you’ll be almost dead so it won’t matter.
This might even held true with your crypto investments. A huge profit in the future might be worthless compared to a small one now.


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Actually the existence of beginners will help improve and introduce bitcoin slowly to be developed so that bitcoin can be used by many people evenly and this is one of the simplest adoptions but has a big effect on bitcoin.
we must support it and motivate them to travel to bitcoin, and they must deepen to find out about bitcoin in detail especially the risks to be faced and here is a place for them to learn and find good information.

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Actually the existence of beginners will help improve and introduce bitcoin slowly to be developed so that bitcoin can be used by many people evenly and this is one of the simplest adoptions but has a big effect on bitcoin.
we must support it and motivate them to travel to bitcoin, and they must deepen to find out about bitcoin in detail especially the risks to be faced and here is a place for them to learn and find good information.
obstacles will also be found if the infrastructure has not been met, namely the existence of the internet network. so that the introduction can directly hit the target if done to beginners with hands-on practice. very supportive so that beginners can more clear information so that the development of bitcoin can be more evenly distributed.
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


i agree we all know that we only have one chance in our life and if we really want to succeed
we need to give our best and learn from hardest way as much as possible
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November 15, 2019, 04:30:33 PM
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You need to spend a lot of time and effort to earn on the trade, but it pays off.

But during that time you have to do your best to be better, it takes a little longer for someone to handle the trade. Someone has a lot of experience, so one can rely on it, one may try, but mus e happens that he is not going, but he should not stop there, he should look forward, and go further and strive for achievement, not go one step further....
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But during that time you have to do your best to be better, it takes a little longer for someone to handle the trade. Someone has a lot of experience, so one can rely on it, one may try, but mus e happens that he is not going, but he should not stop there, he should look forward, and go further and strive for achievement, not go one step further....

Relying on experts is not a good thing, let's just check and study how they analyze things, but, relying entirely our trading is not a good way, I would rather lose at my own mistakes and learning later rather than relying for some experts and blaming them for the loss I had. So, better to be responsible and to take risk on your own, there's no reason not to study trading as there are tools for guidance out there available everywhere.
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But during that time you have to do your best to be better, it takes a little longer for someone to handle the trade. Someone has a lot of experience, so one can rely on it, one may try, but mus e happens that he is not going, but he should not stop there, he should look forward, and go further and strive for achievement, not go one step further....

Relying on experts is not a good thing, let's just check and study how they analyze things, but, relying entirely our trading is not a good way, I would rather lose at my own mistakes and learning later rather than relying for some experts and blaming them for the loss I had. So, better to be responsible and to take risk on your own, there's no reason not to study trading as there are tools for guidance out there available everywhere.
Always self learning gives better results, along with this having reference as the experts predictions will be more effective. When we rely on someone who is already an expert we just follow their footprints and we won't make any self decisions. Here the failure occurs, because in what market condition and marketcap he made profit out of the trade and present can't be the same all the time.

We need to analyze how good things need to be taken forward and what need to be prioritized for profiting.

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I believe that everyone here is not just expecting bitcoin to fall as manner form heaven form above, it is when you work hard for bitcoin that you earn it, just like you have to work hard for fiat before you can be able to earn fiat, those who are lazy to work hard are the ones that are gambling and thinking that they could earn some bitcoin through that.

All the years that I have been in cryptocurrency industry, there is no area aside gambling that I have not really exploited to be able to get some more bitcoin to use as investment, or to use for my personal need. Trading is what I even see as the most hard-working way to earn bitcoin, because it requires so much brain, calculation, smartness and skills for you to be able to trade perfectly and not lose the little money you are using.
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I believe that everyone here is not just expecting bitcoin to fall as manner form heaven form above, it is when you work hard for bitcoin that you earn it, just like you have to work hard for fiat before you can be able to earn fiat, those who are lazy to work hard are the ones that are gambling and thinking that they could earn some bitcoin through that.

All the years that I have been in cryptocurrency industry, there is no area aside gambling that I have not really exploited to be able to get some more bitcoin to use as investment, or to use for my personal need. Trading is what I even see as the most hard-working way to earn bitcoin, because it requires so much brain, calculation, smartness and skills for you to be able to trade perfectly and not lose the little money you are using.
That's right, the trading is the most hardest way to earn bitcoin in the cryptocurrency field because it takes a lot of time, hard work and enough knowledge to understand and gain experience in order to be good in trading and also for you to be earn a good profit in trading industry. Actually through the years I've been staying in the bounty section or bounty campaigns and participating on it in order to gain bitcoin here in the forum, like you I have been go into the gambling also because I really want the gambling session in which you are gamble your money to double or multiple it.
Actually I've been go to the journey of bitcoin becauseI want to have extra income so that I can manage and support my everyday expenses.



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November 16, 2019, 07:31:35 AM
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A lot of people who heard about cryptocurrency and it's potential way to earn invests in cryptocurrency without even learning the basics and ends up getting scammed. Putting an effort to educate your self and to adapt to the environment will not benefit others but will benefit you. Cryptocurrency is a complex and risky thing to understand. That is why effort, patience and hard work should be done.

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A lot of people who heard about cryptocurrency and it's potential way to earn invests in cryptocurrency without even learning the basics and ends up getting scammed. Putting an effort to educate your self and to adapt to the environment will not benefit others but will benefit you. Cryptocurrency is a complex and risky thing to understand. That is why effort, patience and hard work should be done.
Agree to that, putting lots of efforts to educate yourself understanding how things are working and how will you fit yourself to adopt the environment will give you better chances to maximize everything out from this industry. Always keeps being optimistic and have the right attitude to bring more good vibes while working and trying to find the right ways to succeed out from this industry.
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


When it comes to Bitcoin, You really need to spend either your money from your own pockets or your precious time. each of these categories requires a lot of patience. when you think you're gonna just end up getting a lot of money from it without even trying, you're wrong. every successful hodlers has managed to get a lot of income from Bitcoin because of their patience to hold it for long.

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November 16, 2019, 08:35:19 AM
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


When it comes to Bitcoin, You really need to spend either your money from your own pockets or your precious time. each of these categories requires a lot of patience. when you think you're gonna just end up getting a lot of money from it without even trying, you're wrong. every successful hodlers has managed to get a lot of income from Bitcoin because of their patience to hold it for long.
That is good advice that holding your bitcoin for a long period of time is profitable but as what I have understood to OP. You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, just do something of earning bitcoin without spending money from your own pocket. There are too many ways to get Bitcoin for free without spending money, in exchange for your precious time you can have it.

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For beginners  Bitcoin journey is not that easy to earn until they understand better. But once they start doing hard work and have knowledge in bitcoin it is very easy for them to earn more.

This is a good platform were people can do profit. In bitcoin you need a bit patience and hard work you gain more benefit out of it.

Than buying bitcoin one should earn it. Anybody can start bitcoin journey if you have good knowledge in bitcoin /crypto.

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November 16, 2019, 01:08:17 PM
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This is definitely true. Good things only come to those who work for it. Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies aren't a shortcut to success unless we work hard to achieve our target goals here.
It may be hard in the beginning but if we'll have the eagerness to learn, we will be able to reach what we want here. It's necessary to have patience especially in long term investment but we should also exert an effort to grow and succeed.
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November 16, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
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For beginners  Bitcoin journey is not that easy to earn until they understand better. But once they start doing hard work and have knowledge in bitcoin it is very easy for them to earn more.

This is a good platform were people can do profit. In bitcoin you need a bit patience and hard work you gain more benefit out of it.

Than buying bitcoin one should earn it. Anybody can start bitcoin journey if you have good knowledge in bitcoin /crypto.
Indeed, learning Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are not that hard as what you have think of and as long as you have passion to learn this things it won't be a problem. Once you have gained experience you could now earn more profit in various ways such as Trading, Investment and through Signature Campaigns upon this forum. You need have a lot of patience as well to deal with long term profit.

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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


If you really want to earn profits then you need to work hard for it as nothing in this world came free of cost.The profits can be your salary or cryptocuurencies or any other form of payment but if you want it you have to earn it in the right way.Moreover you need to learn about the feild in which you are involved and slowly gain expereience with its usage.Set some rules for you to achieve your goal and try to move in that way even if the wind is in opposite direction never lean backwards and you will get success one day.See the sayings and wordings of some renowned personalities which can inspire you.

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Basically, it applies the same to anything to work for in life.
I wish you became a bit specific on what "work in motivation" and "work in obligation" is like in application to Bitcoin or any crypto coins. What situations requires coping and that would pretty much be the trends here in cryptos, the bearish and bullish trends.
You could also try writing an article from this, OP.
in the application of real work as well as this, actually the work in the real world and in crypto is not much different. what distinguishes me is the freedom that there is more in crypto work
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A bit formerly the forum members assured that bitcoin would have incredibly successful future. And what has happened? I often hear and read various pessimistic thoughts I even heard an opinion that bitcoin has been being sick since the downtrend happened. Possibly it sounds funny but anyway there is something sensible in that opinion. Why not? I may compare a human being which feels sick and a financial asset which is unstable at the moment. Some of us earned money thanks to bitcoin and I think we should not devastate anyone's hopes to earn too. Everything may happen as well as a new sudden strong uptrend in bitcoin

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Basically, it applies the same to anything to work for in life.
I wish you became a bit specific on what "work in motivation" and "work in obligation" is like in application to Bitcoin or any crypto coins. What situations requires coping and that would pretty much be the trends here in cryptos, the bearish and bullish trends.
You could also try writing an article from this, OP.
in the application of real work as well as this, actually the work in the real world and in crypto is not much different. what distinguishes me is the freedom that there is more in crypto work
Yes you were right i can freely do anything here without some boss that would shout at you like in the real world. This is the reason why they talk more about of giving a jobless person into the crypto space. The world is too much for us that finding a decent job would require so much work while being underpaid.

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We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



That's too much, care for yourself and your family also if you have. Don't trust too much and don't you put efforts on it too much, leave even a percent or two for a chance of comeback whenever you fall or fail. Because if you fail in 100 percent you fail big time and there is no coming back.
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


To be honest, what you write applies universally to everything in order to succeed.
The difficult thing about crypto is that it has to do with cyberspace, we need to filter out a lot of valid information rather than get caught up in opinions that can harm us.

Understanding the basic understanding of Bitcoin is very important because it can make people who are just learning will not be oriented solely on the price.
But also on the side of the benefits so that it can transmit knowledge to people around. Wink

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November 17, 2019, 05:11:04 AM
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We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



That's too much, care for yourself and your family also if you have. Don't trust too much and don't your efforts too much, leave even a percent or two for a chance of comeback whenever you fall or fail. Because if you fail in 100 percent you fail big time and there is no coming back.
This is giving too much effort 100 percent to do what you wanted to achieve. At least save some to yourself and in this journey in crypto industry do not expect too much. Expect the unexpected may happen in bitcoin, sometimes how much you wanted to earn we may ended up failed. But the best thing that we can do is study how it works, patience and determination for us to gain and be successful in this journey.
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November 17, 2019, 07:04:48 AM
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Of course, any money is not earned easily, even cryptocurrencies. If you think that Bitcoin, which has already grown by thousands of percent from its early price, will grow further and blithely buy it, then this may not happen. If you think that some asset will grow just like that, then this is also a mistaken assumption, because with the same probability it can depreciate. Conclusion: we must carefully study what we invest in and follow all the rules of money management to succeed in this business.

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A lot of people who heard about cryptocurrency and it's potential way to earn invests in cryptocurrency without even learning the basics and ends up getting scammed. Putting an effort to educate your self and to adapt to the environment will not benefit others but will benefit you. Cryptocurrency is a complex and risky thing to understand. That is why effort, patience and hard work should be done.
I think that it is because of the complexity that is still making the adoption rate quite low now because people still don’t understand it that much, and another thing that is also making the adoption of cryptocurrency to be low in the aspect of payment is still the volatility of the coin, many people are scare of using it as payment, although though know that coins like bitcoin will always increase when it gets low, but it depend on the level of patient of the receiver when they receive it as a payment for a product sold, since their capital will also be tied in, so this is why many people still use it more as means of digital asset than mean of payment, there is still lots of work to be done in actually educating people on this aspect of its complexity and risk.

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November 18, 2019, 08:02:14 AM
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actually I don't really understand what you are talking about even though you wrote it at length, everything must be achieved by hard work especially for beginners, I used to get Bitcoin with a faucet, I collect day and night but the results are very few, but that's where I learned to look for better.

Not everything can be achieved by hard work if you don't do it passionately. What's the sense of working so hard if you don't know what you are working for. Don't just rely on what are the things that you know and you have.

Try to work with passion and knowledge so that you know what are your mission and goals.

It is also applicable in bitcoin world. Strive hard with a mission and goal for you to reach what you need to achieve.

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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

I guess that three basic things will be needed in all jobs and not just in the crypto world because if we don't have one of those three things, we cannot reach our goals in the long term. So make sure you can have all of those things so you can get what you want, and reaching your goals will be wide open in the future. But many of us don't have one of those three but we still hard work to achieve our goals and maybe we need longer than we can expect because we don't have one of the three things. But I am sure that every people will learn from a different way so they can have those three things to help them to reach their goals.

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actually I don't really understand what you are talking about even though you wrote it at length, everything must be achieved by hard work especially for beginners, I used to get Bitcoin with a faucet, I collect day and night but the results are very few, but that's where I learned to look for better.

Not everything can be achieved by hard work if you don't do it passionately. What's the sense of working so hard if you don't know what you are working for. Don't just rely on what are the things that you know and you have.

Try to work with passion and knowledge so that you know what are your mission and goals.

It is also applicable in bitcoin world. Strive hard with a mission and goal for you to reach what you need to achieve.

now we don't need to hard work to earn money, but smart work is the most sought. we must have skills and knowledge. so we are easy to do something.
Even in the crypto world, we really need to be able to smart work, so from that, we can get a lot of money, like being a manager, that's one job that can earn a lot of money in this forum.
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Dedicated to work, hard working, positive thinking and punctuality these are necessary things to become successful in any field not only in cryptocurrency work and we should always put these things in our mind but there is one more thing that new people always put in their mind if they are involving in cryptocurrency work, always secure yourself and never hesitate to get knowledge about cryptocurrency it's must important thing and this post is best example to motivation.
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


You know, many people who come to the crypto world are very motivated to earn money. But after many failures, they simply lose their motivation to earn bitcoin. In sports,it call it, they burnout. Therefore, I don’t think that you need to give yourself completely to earnings. You need to have something in real life, so that it is not so disappointing to be disappointed.
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Basically, it applies the same to anything to work for in life.
I wish you became a bit specific on what "work in motivation" and "work in obligation" is like in application to Bitcoin or any crypto coins. What situations requires coping and that would pretty much be the trends here in cryptos, the bearish and bullish trends.
You could also try writing an article from this, OP.
in the application of real work as well as this, actually the work in the real world and in crypto is not much different. what distinguishes me is the freedom that there is more in crypto work
Yes you were right i can freely do anything here without some boss that would shout at you like in the real world. This is the reason why they talk more about of giving a jobless person into the crypto space. The world is too much for us that finding a decent job would require so much work while being underpaid.
It is more than just about money for me when it comes to the job that I would soon have. Though through cryptocurrencies, in this crypto space where people can't judge by your age, race or anything but rather what they would see is your character and the skills that you can offer to those people who wish to hire you. Aside from that, there is not that much hassle with regards of your finances since you are pretty much in control unlike in the bank where you need to fill up a bunch of paper works in order to open an account along with the fees especially when you're transacting overseas.



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November 18, 2019, 03:43:40 PM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
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November 18, 2019, 08:26:14 PM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
with knowledge and experience that will continue to grow, you will continue to grow, do not focus on one place to learn many things so you can become an expert. and you need to know that every skill you get from a long process, you are currently in the same process as me who will continue to grow

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November 18, 2019, 10:50:32 PM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
Not all the time we are always winning in this journey at some time we always been lose, not all our trades could have a profit and it would not always pump not all the bounties could pay us but we need to work for it, what I mean is take the risk when nothing happens, the risk turns into an experience we could bring for a lifetime.
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November 18, 2019, 11:12:43 PM
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Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.
The point is we have to focus. We learn Bitcoin by doing research on every website or asking directly to people who understand about Bitcoin around us.

Then as much as possible we dig up knowledge from that person and implement it when we are ready.

Finally, don't be afraid of risk. Because risk is part of the success we have to face.

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November 18, 2019, 11:47:26 PM
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



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November 19, 2019, 01:48:50 AM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
Not all the time we are always winning in this journey at some time we always been lose, not all our trades could have a profit and it would not always pump not all the bounties could pay us but we need to work for it, what I mean is take the risk when nothing happens, the risk turns into an experience we could bring for a lifetime.
I faced with many time lost my assets with buy bad altcoin, just few time I got winner and take profit when I buy coin with lower price and sell on higher price, never keep on your mind by investing with bitcoin you always get profit, many time you have waiting your dreaming earn bitcoin and altcoin by trading or investing because you buy wrong altcoin and bitcoin time for investing.
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November 19, 2019, 04:43:16 AM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
I am a new in trading too, I already bought some books regarding trading , charting and candlestick because I want to learn not only in bitcoin but in everything . I think this is the right thing to do for new people in bitcoin also new people in trading. Research can help us to improve our learnings and strategy in everything we are doing.
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November 19, 2019, 04:57:35 AM
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I believe that motivation is the fuel necessary to obtain all the strength to perform any type of work, in the case of Bitcoin to obtain it, many theories that some famous investors give us in their books, as well as some market speculators, must be applied, Many books focus on the stock market, but thanks to the history of Bitcoin, technology and the market are fully applicable.

I think that in order to win bitcoin as well as to win anything, it is necessary to apply all possible intelligence, and this is accompanied by knowledge, as one of the great Robert Kiyosaki says: "money is earned thinking, no worker who spends 8 hours at working in a traditional job is rich ", Bitcoin represents an economy totally different from the traditional one, but you can't think of getting rich from one day to another, to achieve it I think it takes years and studying the market, actually being part of the market , it's like a professional career.

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November 19, 2019, 04:57:55 AM
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We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.



That's too much, care for yourself and your family also if you have. Don't trust too much and don't your efforts too much, leave even a percent or two for a chance of comeback whenever you fall or fail. Because if you fail in 100 percent you fail big time and there is no coming back.
it is not good if you spend it all at once, it is better to divide from the capital used for others, do not let you go bankrupt and spend your money only for cryptocurrency, you should be able to be more wise when using your capital.

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November 19, 2019, 06:00:52 AM
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Yep, it's all about work. If you don't work here you're not going to achieve anything. Either that you work or you invest your money, that's two ways to make it in Bitcoin. If you don't have the money to invest then you will have to work really hard to gain what you need. If you have the money, then good, you can just invest and let your money speak for you.

At first when I started I was thinking that bitcoin is some sort of free money and I saw faucets as a place online where I can go every day to pick some free money, but on the long run I realized that all those things don't work. There is nothing free, faucets are even a waste of time. There are better things one can do to earn enough, like signature campaigns and mining, and trading. Once you've decided what to do next is to put in a lot of effort and do it till it works out for you.
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If we consider earn bitcoin as some goal, or something else altogether, we must have the following:
Work, the effort to succeed, and the ability to cope with the environment.
These are the three basic things to be successful. And most of all it refers to things like bitcoin.

-Work can be divided into: work by obligation and work by motivation.
these two concepts are different because I quote "He who wants is better than what he has to", therefore more productive and intense work that brings better results and rapid progress towards the goal.

-The effort in this case can be divided into: incorrect effort and correct effort.
Improper effort, that is, a desire to work and be better
but you are still learning the wrong way (and you know the way you would be better) and therefore have no means of progress
The right effort is to learn it the hard way because you know that you will be better off if you hear it right and it comes to your own later.
The right effort to progress in everything you do has to exist, the basis of every progression is.
 
-Being able to cope in the surrounding area is one very important thing, it will not always be possible to seek help from someone, sometimes we are left to nature and we are our own boss. Someone gets it by birth, someone gets it, and everyone else is just miserable workers who do nothing from their lives. "If there is no way find it, if you don't find it, make it"

Conclusion:
You don't always have to wait out of the chair with your feet up on the table, you don't reach your destination that way. Nothing will fall from heaven into our pocket.
We must give 100% of ourselves to succeed what we want.


Earning in crypto is very challenging now especially for those who are just entering the space, persistence is the only way forward and at the same time while failing always learn from your mistakes, those who managed to build themselves up now will be stronger
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November 22, 2019, 03:57:14 AM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
I am a new in trading too, I already bought some books regarding trading , charting and candlestick because I want to learn not only in bitcoin but in everything . I think this is the right thing to do for new people in bitcoin also new people in trading. Research can help us to improve our learnings and strategy in everything we are doing.
The good thing about technical analysis is that it works in all markets, once you learn how to trade bitcoin you will know how to trade whatever you want.

If anything you'll find that trading something other than cryptocurrencies will feel a little bit boring because you will never see movements as extreme as the ones that you can see in this market, my only recommendation is that you do not begin to trade until you have a very clear idea of what kind of trader you want to be and how much money are you willing to risk.
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November 22, 2019, 04:18:46 AM
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I think that is much concern with learning correctly on how Bitcoin works or how we learn to use Bitcoin.
Because working is already given, working to get salary and feed our family is already given.
and also those are obligations thats why i am not in favor on those who are always looking for "on how to get free bitcoin"thing it is very unethical considering how valuable Bitcoin is.

Salary can be form of Bitcoin or fiat, both are currency and can buy foods, any items or services.
and this is one good thing about bitcoins characteristics that it can now use as what fiat can do.
I remember, there's one author said  "Don't buy Bitcoin, earn it".
and that is what exactly people now must realized so they will know how and why to value this cryptocurrency.









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November 22, 2019, 11:30:20 AM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
I am a new in trading too, I already bought some books regarding trading , charting and candlestick because I want to learn not only in bitcoin but in everything . I think this is the right thing to do for new people in bitcoin also new people in trading. Research can help us to improve our learnings and strategy in everything we are doing.
The good thing about technical analysis is that it works in all markets, once you learn how to trade bitcoin you will know how to trade whatever you want.

If anything you'll find that trading something other than cryptocurrencies will feel a little bit boring because you will never see movements as extreme as the ones that you can see in this market, my only recommendation is that you do not begin to trade until you have a very clear idea of what kind of trader you want to be and how much money are you willing to risk.

Well sometimes, you get to figure that out after you've spent time trading already. You're right, it's a risk. If you're going to start from scratch, you have a lot of work ahead of you. It may take time before you can familiarize yourself with how the market moves so make sure that you manage your capital well. It's easier and faster to learn if you risk small amounts with actual trades.

 
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November 22, 2019, 12:58:24 PM
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I believe that motivation is the fuel necessary to obtain all the strength to perform any type of work, in the case of Bitcoin to obtain it, many theories that some famous investors give us in their books, as well as some market speculators, must be applied, Many books focus on the stock market, but thanks to the history of Bitcoin, technology and the market are fully applicable.

I think that in order to win bitcoin as well as to win anything, it is necessary to apply all possible intelligence, and this is accompanied by knowledge, as one of the great Robert Kiyosaki says: "money is earned thinking, no worker who spends 8 hours at working in a traditional job is rich ", Bitcoin represents an economy totally different from the traditional one, but you can't think of getting rich from one day to another, to achieve it I think it takes years and studying the market, actually being part of the market , it's like a professional career.

For sure, the first motivation that we had during our first time here which attracts us most is because of the capacity to earn 'money' thru the use of internet and thru cryptocurrency, but as we go along we are embracing its advantage and we are loving its concept that sooner or later we will have cashless society that will help financial status, hustle free transaction and many more.

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November 22, 2019, 08:55:22 PM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
I am a new in trading too, I already bought some books regarding trading , charting and candlestick because I want to learn not only in bitcoin but in everything . I think this is the right thing to do for new people in bitcoin also new people in trading. Research can help us to improve our learnings and strategy in everything we are doing.

Dude candle stick is just a type of graph. Keep reading those books. People need to at least have read a few things before trading and at least some google searches before buying bitcoin. It seems so obvious yet people seem to still neglect it. Yeah knowledge is power.

Yep, it's all about work. If you don't work here you're not going to achieve anything. Either that you work or you invest your money, that's two ways to make it in Bitcoin. If you don't have the money to invest then you will have to work really hard to gain what you need. If you have the money, then good, you can just invest and let your money speak for you.

At first when I started I was thinking that bitcoin is some sort of free money and I saw faucets as a place online where I can go every day to pick some free money, but on the long run I realized that all those things don't work. There is nothing free, faucets are even a waste of time. There are better things one can do to earn enough, like signature campaigns and mining, and trading. Once you've decided what to do next is to put in a lot of effort and do it till it works out for you.

You must work smart. Work where the risk is little and reward more than to worry trying to build up to something that will never be, concentrate on what is good while the gettings good. Also, diversify hugely.
You need to ultimately get your money to work for you. If you do not make money whilst you are sleeping then you will work forever.

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November 22, 2019, 10:20:17 PM
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these are good thougts, If you want to be serious about investing and don't want to lose, or just to minify possibility of lost,
you need to work hard, and by that I mean study the subject, also ask and learn from more experienced, without this you can
win only with great luck  Wink
I am a new in trading too, I already bought some books regarding trading , charting and candlestick because I want to learn not only in bitcoin but in everything . I think this is the right thing to do for new people in bitcoin also new people in trading. Research can help us to improve our learnings and strategy in everything we are doing.

I'm really glad you read this, I wrote for people like that. Just keep working and don't stand still, when you reach the goal, keep trying, be persistent, with faith in yourself go forward and strive for victory.

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