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November 12, 2019, 12:59:24 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?

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November 12, 2019, 01:35:47 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
I know I'll get a lot of backlash but I think that FaceBook's Libra Project is pegged to take mass adoption by storm. FaceBook and it's partners, Occulus Rift/ Instagram/ WhatsApp make Facebook the largest social media platform in the world. If congress were to give Mark Zuckerberg the green light to go ahead with the launch of Libra platform, the cryptocurrency sector as we know it could rapidly change.
   All of the sudden the world over would be educated about cryptocurrency thanks to the Libra platform. Eventual those Libra users will trickle down into other crypto related projects and communities, so on and so forth. The market would naturally get a boost in growth. Bitcointalk would be flooded with new users like never before. Everyone will want in as the forum experiences a booming surge in traffic. If you thought people were complaining about bounty standards and low ball pay as of now, wait until there aren't any left to complain about  Roll Eyes, you'll be asking where did all the airdrops & Bounties go?

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November 12, 2019, 01:42:06 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
I know I'll get a lot of backlash but I think that FaceBook's Libra Project is pegged to take mass adoption by storm. FaceBook and it's partners, Occulus Rift/ Instagram/ WhatsApp make Facebook the largest social media platform in the world. If congress were to give Mark Zuckerberg the green light to go ahead with the launch of Libra platform, the cryptocurrency sector as we know it could rapidly change.
   All of the sudden the world over would be educated about cryptocurrency thanks to the Libra platform. Eventual those Libra users will trickle down into other crypto related projects and communities, so on and so forth. The market would naturally get a boost in growth. Bitcointalk would be flooded with new users like never before. Everyone will want in as the forum experiences a booming surge in traffic. If you thought people were complaining about bounty standards and low ball pay as of now, wait until there aren't any left to complain about  Roll Eyes

What I don't understand about how Facebook is proceeding with Libra:
Why don't they separate the currency Libra from the payment system Calibra, deploy Calibra into the Facebook apps and allow people to pay for all the things using other cryptocurrencies? This would dramatically foster adoption.

In a separate (and more complex step) they could create the Libra coin (which is what they're getting regulatory backlash for) and rule the world with their new monetary system or whatever...

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November 12, 2019, 01:46:10 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
In my case. I'm collecting physical crypto coin and display it in my room and some non-loaded token are on living room. I always post on my IG and facebook about my collection and some facts about crypto currency. Sometimes, my non-crypto got interested in to my collection and then I will discuss to them what is bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Collection is a very cool entry point to preach some word to your friend.

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November 12, 2019, 01:55:59 PM
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Just do it how most people do it, the easy and straightforward way. Earn fiat through a job, a business, or a gig, then use a percentage of the earned fiat to buy bitcoin in a peer-to-peer exchange. Or better, you can try to ask your employer to pay you straight in bitcoin.

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November 12, 2019, 02:16:02 PM
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Just do it how most people do it, the easy and straightforward way. Earn fiat through a job, a business, or a gig, then use a percentage of the earned fiat to buy bitcoin in a peer-to-peer exchange. Or better, you can try to ask your employer to pay you straight in bitcoin.

This is exactly what I didn't strive for. In order for people to spend their hard-earned fiat for crypto, they have to be very convinced that what they're buying is worth an investment. If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.

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November 12, 2019, 02:43:17 PM
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If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.

and who is going to pay you for things you already do? and what is he benefit in it for them to pay you?!
what you are saying sounds more like one of those micropayment jobs you usually see advertised on the internet which are a complete waste of time and could even infect your computer if you follow their instructions including visiting random sites! they advertise it like "things you already do" then you see you have to do mundane tasks for long hours to make a cent!

There is a FOMO brewing...
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November 12, 2019, 02:52:43 PM
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This is exactly what I didn't strive for. In order for people to spend their hard-earned fiat for crypto, they have to be very convinced that what they're buying is worth an investment. If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.

Because the problem is mostly not getting bitcoin to people in my opinion. The problem mostly lies on the people actually thinking that bitcoin is actually important and could be worth a lot more in the future. If a certain person that doesn't care what bitcoin is gets a hold of some bitcoin through whatever manner, there's a good chance that he/she's going to immediately sell it for some dollars anyway. The solution is a lot more of in the educational/knowledge aspect in my opinion, rather than accessibility.

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November 12, 2019, 03:12:43 PM
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If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.

and who is going to pay you for things you already do? and what is he benefit in it for them to pay you?!
what you are saying sounds more like one of those micropayment jobs you usually see advertised on the internet which are a complete waste of time and could even infect your computer if you follow their instructions including visiting random sites! they advertise it like "things you already do" then you see you have to do mundane tasks for long hours to make a cent!

One of the examples is Wirex, where you get a cashback for all your purchases with the credit / debit card in Bitcoin. There are other credit cards with cashback systems, but also a lot of credit cards without.

Another example is Lolli, a cashback system for online purchases that pays in Bitcoin.

Microtasks could be a thing, but there you have to explicitly do something you probably wouldn't otherwise do.

But in general the fact that I can't come up with more examples is the precise reason why I'm posting this question ;-)

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November 12, 2019, 03:15:10 PM
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This is exactly what I didn't strive for. In order for people to spend their hard-earned fiat for crypto, they have to be very convinced that what they're buying is worth an investment. If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.

Because the problem is mostly not getting bitcoin to people in my opinion. The problem mostly lies on the people actually thinking that bitcoin is actually important and could be worth a lot more in the future. If a certain person that doesn't care what bitcoin is gets a hold of some bitcoin through whatever manner, there's a good chance that he/she's going to immediately sell it for some dollars anyway. The solution is a lot more of in the educational/knowledge aspect in my opinion, rather than accessibility.

But don't you think that people get much more interested in something they actually own as opposed to something they could or couldn't buy?

I once gave a small amount of Bitcoin on a paper wallet to my family each as a Christmas gift, which actually triggered them to ask a lot of questions about how that works and what you can do with it. My brother then went to open a Coinbase account and buy some more.

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November 12, 2019, 03:23:15 PM
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But don't you think that people get much more interested in something they actually own as opposed to something they could or couldn't buy?

Well, good point. In this sort of case, I couldn't think of anything on the top of my head besides Lolli. Probably earning BAT/BTC through casually browsing using the Brave Browser, but unfortunately you'd need to submit KYC/AML information(which I don't suggest you'd do) to collect the few dollars worth of BAT/BTC you earn each month hence why they have a bad reputation here on Bitcointalk.

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I once gave a small amount of Bitcoin on a paper wallet to my family each as a Christmas gift, which actually triggered them to ask a lot of questions about how that works and what you can do with it. My brother then went to open a Coinbase account and buy some more.
^ There's nothing wrong with that and yet, that was good for them to let them know about Bitcoin if they receive small amount and begun to curious what Bitcoin is. Probably since you are giving a gift, I think much better if you include a video tutorial on how bitcoin secure and how to store it with it. But it depends on how much amount you are going to give, that they should appreciate on it and triggered them to buy a lot o Bitcoin.
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November 12, 2019, 04:15:46 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
I know I'll get a lot of backlash but I think that FaceBook's Libra Project is pegged to take mass adoption by storm. FaceBook and it's partners, Occulus Rift/ Instagram/ WhatsApp make Facebook the largest social media platform in the world. If congress were to give Mark Zuckerberg the green light to go ahead with the launch of Libra platform, the cryptocurrency sector as we know it could rapidly change.
   All of the sudden the world over would be educated about cryptocurrency thanks to the Libra platform. Eventual those Libra users will trickle down into other crypto related projects and communities, so on and so forth. The market would naturally get a boost in growth. Bitcointalk would be flooded with new users like never before. Everyone will want in as the forum experiences a booming surge in traffic. If you thought people were complaining about bounty standards and low ball pay as of now, wait until there aren't any left to complain about  Roll Eyes, you'll be asking where did all the airdrops & Bounties go?

Great for seeing the potentials that Facebook Libra is going to bring to the crypto hemisphere but the concern to most people really is the control. For me, I won't have any concern should it be maybe bitcoin or eth and other decentralised coin that the support is actually going towards and not about the indirect impact that Libra will have. Facebook and its products can conveniently boost of information about large percentage of the population that cuts across race, countries and continents adding crypto currency to add, would be too much power for one corporate organisation which if there is no proper oversight could be abused to the detriment of the larger society.
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November 12, 2019, 04:39:57 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?

I believe that a good way to get started in Bitcoin is to just start as an investor in Bitcoin as a store of value. Then as that individual learns more about this asset, he/she can gradually branch out by using it to make a purchase or trade for another cryptocurrency.
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November 12, 2019, 04:47:38 PM
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But don't you think that people get much more interested in something they actually own as opposed to something they could or couldn't buy?

Well, good point. In this sort of case, I couldn't think of anything on the top of my head besides Lolli. Probably earning BAT/BTC through casually browsing using the Brave Browser, but unfortunately you'd need to submit KYC/AML information(which I don't suggest you'd do) to collect the few dollars worth of BAT/BTC you earn each month hence why they have a bad reputation here on Bitcointalk.

Is there a particular reason why you don't suggest submitting KYC info to Brave / BAT / Uphold? I mean, apart from the hassle of doing so?

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November 12, 2019, 05:25:22 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
Well, there are still ways to earn bitcoin without doing trading and mining. Like what you said, earning outside crypto world is possible but you can't really detach your activity from crypto world since you are still aiming to earn bitcoin. No one in the crypto space starts ckean and good, they would need theuirr skills to leverage them in the decebtraluzed world so offering consultations and trainings could be a way to earn, since the demand for blockchain experties with traditional skills is on the rise, one could offer consulting and training servuces to newer blockchain projects.
        The list of people that could earn bitcoin just by doing what they are supposed to do anyway goes on and on, best examples are accountants consukting on fund managements, lawyers specializing in blockchain and crypto law, stock exchange brokers consulting crypto related stuff and such. They could earn whenever they are since its easy to get oaid with bitcoin rather that traditional  way of payment but time consuming.
       In terms of spreading bitcoin and getting non crypto users into using it, edicating the masses about it's advantage and how profitable bitcoin is could be a way or educate and persuade people to study crypto related things so they could offer services to businesses that needs blockchain and crypto expertise.
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November 12, 2019, 05:58:30 PM
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Just do it how most people do it, the easy and straightforward way. Earn fiat through a job, a business, or a gig, then use a percentage of the earned fiat to buy bitcoin in a peer-to-peer exchange. Or better, you can try to ask your employer to pay you straight in bitcoin.

This is exactly what I didn't strive for. In order for people to spend their hard-earned fiat for crypto, they have to be very convinced that what they're buying is worth an investment. If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.


Ok, on the top of your head, name one investment where you got 800% profit in one year? Also, Bitcoin is a high risk investment and should only

form a small part of your larger portfolio. There is no guaranteed profits in Bitcoin investments, but there are a huge potential for large profits.

Look at the price history of Bitcoin and you will several opportunities where people could buy low and sell for a massive profit. I buy/sell old cars

and I use the proceeds to buy more bitcoins.  Wink

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November 12, 2019, 06:05:33 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
The whole point of creating and going out of your way to earn bitcoin is to promote cryptocurrency and the use of it, and if you are just doing normal things no one will care, things are the way they are because we need to show people the difference between crypto based things and normal fiat, and the ones that claim that they will pay for doing it are either a scam or just pay you a minuscule amount compared to what you do, so you are better of learning new thgings and new ways to earn because they make develop and learn new skills that you wouldn't learn if you do regular way.
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November 12, 2019, 08:34:03 PM
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Just do it how most people do it, the easy and straightforward way. Earn fiat through a job, a business, or a gig, then use a percentage of the earned fiat to buy bitcoin in a peer-to-peer exchange. Or better, you can try to ask your employer to pay you straight in bitcoin.

This is exactly what I didn't strive for. In order for people to spend their hard-earned fiat for crypto, they have to be very convinced that what they're buying is worth an investment. If they get some crypto for stuff they do anyway that's a much better way of introducing crypto / Bitcoin to average people.


Ok, on the top of your head, name one investment where you got 800% profit in one year? Also, Bitcoin is a high risk investment and should only

form a small part of your larger portfolio. There is no guaranteed profits in Bitcoin investments, but there are a huge potential for large profits.

Look at the price history of Bitcoin and you will several opportunities where people could buy low and sell for a massive profit. I buy/sell old cars

and I use the proceeds to buy more bitcoins.  Wink

Not sure whether this is going the right direction, but what I meant is that giving non-Bitcoin-educated people easy access to Bitcoin by "just giving" it to them is probably a better path to adopting Bitcoin than telling someone: "Hey, there's this great thing called Bitcoin which can make you money - go invest!"

That's why I was also giving examples like Lolli or Wirex - people can just shop without thinking about the price of Bitcoin (at first) or whether they're making a good investment, because they get it anyway.

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November 12, 2019, 08:41:10 PM
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I just ordered the Wirex card and hope to get it soon. The idea is to receive crypto (Bitcoin) by doing stuff that I would be doing anyway.

What other ways do you know to receive / earn Bitcoin for everyday stuff outside of the crypto world that could bring Bitcoin and other crypto directly to users for them to spend?
The whole point of creating and going out of your way to earn bitcoin is to promote cryptocurrency and the use of it, and if you are just doing normal things no one will care, things are the way they are because we need to show people the difference between crypto based things and normal fiat, and the ones that claim that they will pay for doing it are either a scam or just pay you a minuscule amount compared to what you do, so you are better of learning new thgings and new ways to earn because they make develop and learn new skills that you wouldn't learn if you do regular way.

If we want to reach mass adoption we cannot expect people to understand how crypto works. Most people don't even know how money works and where it comes from and why, and they don't want to.

This is actually a pretty good interview where Alex Adelman (CEO of Lolli) explains why this is beneficial for what many of us are trying to achieve: https://www.theblockcrypto.com/post/33099/alex-adelman-lolli

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