[POLL] WILL TRUMP BE ELECTED TO A SECOND TERM?

[eddie13]

I hope you don't object to

At first glance I may have some objections like, why do I have to lose if Trump dies? The last thing I need to do is put another .1 BTC on his head.. Or, if them aliunz finally come for our rectums?
What if the rapture happens and Trump floats into the sky?

I'll review this more thoroughly in the morning..

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[suchmoon]

If Trump loses, he will say he won.  Doesn't matter the reason he gives, TECSHARE will believe whatever Trump says and you won't be able to reason with him no matter how hard you try.  If he were to pay you, that would be the same as him saying Trump is wrong and admitting he was wrong, because he will cling to whatever the first excuse Trump gives and defend it at all costs - he's not capable of admitting either of those things.  You're in for a massive headache if you don't agree on an arbitrator before hand.

My bet offer is to eddie13 only. Not to TECSHARE or anyone else.

At first glance I may have some objections like, why do I have to lose if Trump dies? The last thing I need to do is put another .1 BTC on his head.. Or, if them aliunz finally come for our rectums?
What if the rapture happens and Trump floats into the sky?

Well, you're the one betting on him winning

I don't even know who is running against him so why would I have to lose if Bernie croaks or Biden is outed as a kiddie fiddler? But I would admit that you would win if something like that happens.

[TwitchySeal]

I'm an idiot.

I thought you were making the bet with TECSHARE.

Carry on and ignore me.

[suchmoon]

I'm an idiot.

I thought you were making the bet with TECSHARE.

Carry on and ignore me.

Yeah not in a million years without escrow, you'd be right about that one.

On a second thought, I'd probably take it up just to be able to call TECSHARE a scammer

[TECSHARE]

If Trump loses, he will say he won.  Doesn't matter the reason he gives, TECSHARE will believe whatever Trump says and you won't be able to reason with him no matter how hard you try.  If he were to pay you, that would be the same as him saying Trump is wrong and admitting he was wrong, because he will cling to whatever the first excuse Trump gives and defend it at all costs - he's not capable of admitting either of those things.  You're in for a massive headache if you don't agree on an arbitrator before hand.

My bet offer is to eddie13 only. Not to TECSHARE or anyone else.

At first glance I may have some objections like, why do I have to lose if Trump dies? The last thing I need to do is put another .1 BTC on his head.. Or, if them aliunz finally come for our rectums?
What if the rapture happens and Trump floats into the sky?

Well, you're the one betting on him winning

I don't even know who is running against him so why would I have to lose if Bernie croaks or Biden is outed as a kiddie fiddler? But I would admit that you would win if something like that happens.

I'm an idiot.

I thought you were making the bet with TECSHARE.

Carry on and ignore me.

Yeah not in a million years without escrow, you'd be right about that one.

On a second thought, I'd probably take it up just to be able to call TECSHARE a scammer

Careful you don't trip over each other too hard in your unquenchable thirst to come at me bros. I really hope you take the bet just so I can laugh at you when you lose. You crazy kids don't suck each other off too hard or your lips will fall off.

[suchmoon]

Careful you don't trip over each other too hard in your unquenchable thirst to come at me bros. I really hope you take the bet just so I can laugh at you when you lose. You crazy kids don't suck each other off too hard or your lips will fall off.

Can you read? I've already taken the bet, it's just a matter of ironing out the details with eddie13. I had a good laugh at you when Republicans won the 2018 midterms so I'd be happy to return the favor.

Not sure what your sexual fantasies have to do with the election but whatever floats your boat.

[TECSHARE]

Careful you don't trip over each other too hard in your unquenchable thirst to come at me bros. I really hope you take the bet just so I can laugh at you when you lose. You crazy kids don't suck each other off too hard or your lips will fall off.

Can you read? I've already taken the bet, it's just a matter of ironing out the details with eddie13. I had a good laugh at you when Republicans won the 2018 midterms so I'd be happy to return the favor.

Not sure what your sexual fantasies have to do with the election but whatever floats your boat.

Yeah that was pretty impressive how you lost the senate. Blue wave all the way. Stay thirsty.

[suchmoon]

Yeah that was pretty impressive how you lost the senate. Stay thirsty.

You got me confused with somebody else. I wasn't running for Senate.

So what do you think, will Trump get reelected or not?

[TwitchySeal]

Careful you don't trip over each other too hard in your unquenchable thirst to come at me bros. I really hope you take the bet just so I can laugh at you when you lose. You crazy kids don't suck each other off too hard or your lips will fall off.

Can you read? I've already taken the bet, it's just a matter of ironing out the details with eddie13. I had a good laugh at you when Republicans won the 2018 midterms so I'd be happy to return the favor.

Not sure what your sexual fantasies have to do with the election but whatever floats your boat.

Yeah that was pretty impressive how you lost the senate. Blue wave all the way. Stay thirsty.

Actually it was theirs to lose. This is the third term in a row the Republicans have controlled the Senate, that's what you should be bragging about.

Individual Senate race outcomes are tricky though.  Usually each party has one decent advantage year every six years when they are less exposed and don't have to spread their money so thin, and 2016 was definitely that for Republicans.  2020 will be the close one and 2022 will favor Democrats...I think.

There were 33 Senate seats up for grabs in the 2018.

Republicans won 12
Democrats won 19
Lets give Agnus an R and Bernie a D and call it 13 to 20.
And the Democrats still lost a seat.

That's not including somehow a Democrat took Jeff Sessions seat (wtf?)

What should really be making the GOP nervous is that the Democrats had the largest national margin of victory ever (almost 10 million votes!), and they won the house by a large margin (41 seats), with a huge freshmen class that ran on holding Trump accountable (impeach the motherfucker).  It's a crazy game and elections have consequences.

[Gyfts]

That's not including somehow a Democrat took Jeff Sessions seat (wtf?)

Is that really surprising considering a literal alleged pedophile was running a campaign in a special election that people hardly ever show up to? Roy Moore was not a candidate that ever had a chance of winning. No potential pedo is ever going to win a senate seat.

What should really be making the GOP nervous is that the Democrats had the largest national margin of victory ever (almost 10 million votes!), and they won the house by a large margin (41 seats), with a huge freshmen class that ran on holding Trump accountable (impeach the motherfucker).  It's a crazy game and elections have consequences.

Trump sucks with women suburban voters and it's the reason Republicans lost a lot of the house coin toss races. He got destroyed in the midterms with this demographic and he needs to carry it in 2020. I don't think the GOP has to be particularly worried because democrats, like normal fashion, are shooting themselves in the foot with their radical policy proposal and impeachment sham. (Fun fact, Nancy Pelosi has a worse approval rating than Trump does, and she is hardly the target of any media scrutiny.) The freshman class of newly elected congresswomen pushed the party so far left and it's evident by Joe Biden's lead that modern democrats are not willing to be propelled into the derangement of the hardcore left. Still, there's a split in the party with the moderate democrats and the far left which the GOP and Trump will take advantage of. 

Having people like AOC, Rashida Talib, and Ilhan Omar elected to congress were by far the best thing that could have happened to the GOP. Self proclaimed socialists and antisemites at the forefront of the democratic left, what could go wrong?

[TwitchySeal]

That's not including somehow a Democrat took Jeff Sessions seat (wtf?)

Is that really surprising considering a literal alleged pedophile was running a campaign in a special election that people hardly ever show up to? Roy Moore was not a candidate that ever had a chance of winning. No potential pedo is ever going to win a senate seat.

That's fair.  Honestly I think the biggest factor in that election was the fact that Roy Moores primary opponents last name was Strange.

Moore is running again in 2020 against Sessions for the seat Sessions gave up to be Trumps AG and whipping boy for a bit, that should be interesting.

Having people like AOC, Rashida Talib, and Ilhan Omar elected to congress were by far the best thing that could have happened to the GOP. Self proclaimed socialists and antisemites at the forefront of the democratic left, what could go wrong?

They're freshman with no leadership positions.  Trump is trying to make them appear at the 'forefront' to make people hate the party that opposes him.  It's definitely working though.  But you are definitely more likely to hear about them in conservative media than MSM.

[Astargath]

Well, hopefully, Trump wins, the other candidates are absolute garbage lol. Who in his right mind would vote for Warren or even Biden? The guy can't even form proper sentences.

[Astargath]

It was a fluke that Trump won in the first place. He lost the popular vote by the biggest margin ever for a "winning" president. The dem candidates may be soft but they aren't as galvanizing as Hillary was. Biden, the likely winner of the primary, just has to show up to the debates and hold his ground, and Trump will be out. A lot of people like yours truly were in the "Never Hillary" camp. You don't hear dem-leaning voters proclaiming themselves to be "Never Biden." Its just not a thing. There's also no

Never Bernie
Never Warren
Never Buttiegieg

camps. The only candidate disliked more than Trump by America was Hillary (which itself is arguable seeing as how she won the popular vote), and she's not running this time around. A large contingency of Republican voters are going to sit the next one out. Trump as a president certainly is nothing to write home about.

Do you want someone else to win just because you dislike Trump or do you want someone else to win to do better things? People really need to think about their reasons.

[BADecker]

Do you want someone else to win just because you dislike Trump or do you want someone else to win to do better things? People really need to think about their reasons.

The presidency is largely a figurehead position. There's simply no way that one single person can actually govern over 300 million others, but they can "speak" for them to those outside the country. I don't think today's presidents are capable of accomplishing all that much, really, but they do represent an attitude that America reflects to the rest of the world.

Whether it is Trump, Biden, or Daffy Duck as president, the inner workings of the country will hardly budge. Trump being elected I think best exemplifies this: his credentials were what exactly? Being a reality TV star? I'd much rather have Arnold Schwarzenegger be president but of course he wasn't born in the U.S., so oh well.

Basically I'd rather have anybody be president than Trump, because yes, I personally find him very distasteful and its pretty embarrassing that he's actually our president. I would have felt the same way about President Hillary as well, to be honest. Which is part of the reason why I left the U.S. after the last election.

Ultimately, however, the way things are set up, the health of the country is going to be what its going to be regardless of who is president. Too much money depends on everything remaining status quo. Every election, people say "Oh, it will be the end of the world if so-and-so gets elected." Then so-and-so does get elected, and nothing ever changes.

You have said that the presidency is largely a figurehead position. This is exactly what Trump is showing us. His distastefulness has to do with his honesty in showing that the presidency is largely a figurehead position. Any other popular candidate or potential candidate would do just the opposite. He/she would attempt to solidify the idea in the minds of the people that his/her importance was something to be worshiped, like you honor a king, or Queen Elizabeth, for example.

The presidency is part of a corporation. This corporation is set up and accepted by many to run certain aspects of life operations among people. To do this, the corporation hides that fact (as much as possible) that jury nullification can get rid of any presidential decisions on a local basis. And if the same decisions are implemented by enough juries around the country, the laws will be changed. IN FACT, jury nullification is so important, and is such a danger to the control government wants to exert over the people, that it is barely heard of among the people. Government hides it as much as possible, just to maintain their control over the people.

More important than this is the fact that government essentially dupes people into thinking that it talks to them. With regard to the people of the nation, government literally uses entrapment tactics to get people to believe that they (the people) are the ones who are ordered to follow government regulations, and even government laws. But government can't even talk to the people except that the people ask them to. Slowly read this, and then look up the documents in the government that show it to be accurate - https://redress4dummies.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/office-of-person1.pdf.

We are being duped to have much of a focus on the presidency at all. It doesn't affect us except that we ask it to.

[suchmoon]

Who in his right mind would vote for Warren or even Biden? The guy can't even form proper sentences.

I agree. Let's disqualify everyone who can't form proper sentences.

[Spendulus]

Who in his right mind would vote for Warren or even Biden? The guy can't even form proper sentences.

I agree. Let's disqualify everyone who can't form proper sentences.

I concur, and suggest myself as the sole arbitrator of what constitutes a proper sentence.

Sentences advocating Warren, or Biden are deemed improper automatically.

Sentences advocating Trump are automatically deemed proper.

[BADecker]

Who in his right mind would vote for Warren or even Biden? The guy can't even form proper sentences.

I agree. Let's disqualify everyone who can't form proper sentences.

I concur, and suggest myself as the sole arbitrator of what constitutes a proper sentence.

Sentences advocating Warren, or Biden are deemed improper automatically.

Sentences advocating Trump are automatically deemed proper.

Yabut, what about the jokers who form proper sentences but don't display them properly?

 

[eddie13]

I'll take a 0.1BTC 1:1 trump wins 2020..

I'm in.

I said it so I will honor it..

I think I was thinking more along the lines of "Trump would beat any of them in an election" Which would be more contingent on him running at all, including being alive to do so, or not simply retiring after his success and handing it off to someone else, which I wouldn't really blame him for.. Their isn't really even a race yet to bet on..
But that is not what I said..

In order to honor what I said exactly I guess Trump has to win the 2020 election from this very moment barring any and all circumstances or "rules"..
If Trump doesn't win 2020 I lose basically no matter the reason, which is kinda a shit bet, but I'll take it if you feel like holding me to it..

I like your contingency on the EC because what if Trump wins the EC but, the EC is abolished between now and then?
But I guess I would still loose if Trump lost because the EC was abolished..
I see all sorts of dirty tricks they could play..

But he didn't lose, 400k puerto ricans each voted 5 times in Florida and they bussed in 300k Mexicans that voted 5 times each in Georgia.  And China ......

Sadly this is a concern, but it would be decided through "If the Electoral College doesn't meet by December 31 or some other reasonable date it's a draw (no winner)." because serious investigations of voter fraud wold hold up the meeting, right?

[suchmoon]

In order to honor what I said exactly I guess Trump has to win the 2020 election from this very moment barring any and all circumstances or "rules"..
If Trump doesn't win 2020 I lose basically no matter the reason, which is kinda a shit bet, but I'll take it if you feel like holding me to it..

Ok, how about this: let's call it a draw if Donald J Trump is not on the ballot in at least 26 states for any reason. That would reduce your risk of retirement or death, except if he dies between election day and the EC meeting. But this would take away your chance to win in another (very unlikely) scenario - if he's not on the ballot but wins via write-in.

What would you consider a reasonable deadline for the EC meeting? Is December 31 good enough, or should we make it January 31?

I like your contingency on the EC because what if Trump wins the EC but, the EC is abolished between now and then?
But I guess I would still loose if Trump lost because the EC was abolished..
I see all sorts of dirty tricks they could play..

Abolishing EC is almost impossible, particularly in time for the 2020 election as it would require an amendment to the constitution. I think we can agree that the constitution stays put, short of Martian invasion.

[TwitchySeal]

The 2000 election results weren't official till the first week of January.